Hypocritical of S Akhtar to criticise Pakistan team when he himself averages over 43 in Australia

[Abdul]

"Even the best teams went to Australia and lost but at least they fought well." : Shoaib Akhtar.

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Did nothing substantial for Pakistan. Averages 43 in Australia with the ball, yet he has the audacity to murmur out stuff like that on the television. Thinks of himself very highly as if he is the greatest cricketer ever.

 

[Hawkeye]

So if he doesn't average in 20s he can't speak against what's wrong?

Remind me how many tv analysts and commentators were ATGs of their time.

Akhtar won you some ODIs in Australia. I think last time we won the ODI series was because of him.

Still remember how he made Ponting, Hayden, Lehmann look like club cricketers. One of the best ever spells.

Senseless criticism is wrong and it doesn't matter what your bowling or batting average was.

 

[Abdul]

So if he doesn't average in 20s he can't speak against what's wrong?!

Remind me how many tv analysts and commentators were ATGs of their time.

Akhtar won you some ODIs in Australia. I think last time we won the ODI series was because of him.

Still remember how he made Ponting, Hayden, Lehmann look like club cricketers. One of the best ever spells.

This is not about ODIs, it's about Tests.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

In that case it's very hypocritical for us fans to criticize the teams performance in Australia since we haven't even bowled there. Was this criticism by Akhtar aimed towards the test or ODI performance?

 

[Hawkeye]

This is not about ODIs, it's about Tests.

Lol. You can't pick and choose. So, he can analyze ODIs and not Tests?

 

[Abdul]

Lol. You can't pick and choose. So, he can analyze ODIs and not Tests?

Yes, he can do, but it's always better to look at yourself before doing so.

 

[Syed1]

I think Akhtar is well within his rights to criticize. Misbah was very very poor as captain and batsman in the Australia series.

 

[Abdul]

In that case it's very hypocritical for us fans to criticize the teams performance in Australia since we haven't even bowled there. Was this criticism by Akhtar aimed towards the test or ODI performance?

Yes, he can criticise, but his wording was the main problem here. He says "the teams showed a lot of the fight in the past", can you honestly say with a straight face that this team didn't show fight in Australia? What fight did other Pakistan teams show in the past? Getting bowled out for subpar scores like 59 or losing match when you were chasing 140 odd?

Just because the players in past were bigger names and 'lejunds', they aren't saints.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes, he can do, but it's always better to look at yourself before doing so.

Was one of the best bowlers, contributed to our only victories in Australia, one of the reasons why Pak bowling machine is respected in Australia.

He has more creds than a majority of other analysts. No need to attack him.

Sometimes he talks nonsense, fine to point that out.

 

[The_Odd_One]

He has every right as an analyst to criticize poor performance of the bowlers. However, if he starts comparing his own performance in Australia with them then that would be weird.

 

[Abdul]

He has every right as an analyst to criticize poor performance of the bowlers. However, if he starts comparing his own performance in Australia with them then that would be weird.

Yes, that's the main problem here.

 

[Markhor]

I never bought into the argument that if you haven't done something in a particular area of discussion you have no right to talk about it.

However, it is only right that ex-players who've been bashing the team non-stop on this Australia tour acknowledge their own woeful records in Australia and not pretend their era was some golden age.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Yes, he can criticise, but his wording was the main problem here. He says "the teams showed a lot of the fight in the past", can you honestly say with a straight face that this team didn't show fight in Australia? What fight did other Pakistan teams show in the past? Getting bowled out for subpar scores like 59 or losing match when you were chasing 140 odd?

Just because the players in past were bigger names and 'lejunds', they aren't saints.

Akhtar doesn't really talk sense normally so I don't usually pay attention to what he says. Exaggerates too much

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Akhtar had one bad tour in 99 as a rookie. He bowled extremely well after that.

 

[MenInG]

I think what he is saying is that its better to LOSE by looking to fight than to LOSE without (appearing to fight) ....

 

[Ankit007]

Yes, he can do, but it's always better to look at yourself before doing so.

If he was bad then it doesnt mean he can not tell what is right. He has some very good experience. He was great in other countires, can your current boys match him?

Also Aussie team in his time was very different than what is now... If these players would have been playing against that Aussie team then I dont think they would have even made 200 in any innings.... And at least would have given 350 runs every innings....

 

[Abdul]

If he was bad then it doesnt mean he can not tell what is right. He has some very good experience. He was great in other countires, can your current boys match him?

Also Aussie team in his time was very different than what is now... If these players would have been playing against that Aussie team then I dont think they would have even made 200 in any innings.... And at least would have given 350 runs every innings....

I'm not going to repeat myself.

 

[Rayyman]

We did fight well for more than half of the series.

 

[English August]

Player and analyst are two different roles. Else how would someone like Hussain ever become a good commentator? He was one of the most ordinary cricketers ever to play international cricket (God! he was terrible!), so wouldn't be able to find flaws in how Kohli and Root are playing.

I find that, Akhtar, when he's not boasting about his own bowling, is actually a decent analyst.

 

[Statsman]

He himself admitted on one of the shows that he had a poor average in Australia. Although he's a poor analyst but he's getting paid to analyse the game and he will do what his job requires.

 

[aloo paratha]

He could've averaged 100, but as long as he's right, he's right.

 

[Hasan123]

He can comment but I get what the op is trying to say. Most of the people on this forum care of what Akthar says anyway.

 

[Barragan]

He has every right to criticise.

If we go by the performance logic, then fans should never have a say and criticise because we can't even get into the domestic sides.

 

[Saj]

Yes Akhtar showed a lot of fight during his career. Mainly with his team mates and sometimes an elederly coach, Bob Woolmer.

Some TV analysts firing some cheap shots at the current team. Kettle - black springs to mind.

 

[Abdul]

Yes Akhtar showed a lot of fight during his career. Mainly with his team mates and sometimes an elederly coach, Bob Woolmer.

Some TV analysts firing some cheap shots at the current team. Kettle - black springs to mind.

Yep. These so-called "analysts" have whole lot of peddling agendas.

More funny when these same people try to paint themselves as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Syed1]

Yep. These so-called "analysts" have whole lot of peddling agendas.

More funny when these same people try to paint themselves as the best thing since sliced bread.

Akhtar won more matches for Pakistan than Misbah. FACT.

 

[Abdul]

Akhtar won more matches for Pakistan than Misbah. FACT.

Yes but Misbah unlike Akhtar never took any "supplementaries" in.

 

[Red Devil]

Isn't that his job as a TV analyst? What's he supposed to do during that two hours of airtime?

 

[Belawal2014]

Akhtar won more matches for Pakistan than Misbah. FACT.

Misbah and Azhar Ali combined. Fact.

It's funny how people are making fun of him as a player when he's doing his job as an analyst. You may disagree with what he has to say, but there's no point at all in taking potshots at his record as a player.

By that same logic, we should all just log out of PP because what do we know? We haven't played any international cricket at all.

 

[Abdul]

Isn't that his job as a TV analyst? What's he supposed to do during that two hours of airtime?

Shouldn't make remarks like "teams in the past showed more fight" which clearly aren't true at all

I'd suggest you read other replies on the thread next time instead of going just by the title of the thread

 

[Red Devil]

Shouldn't make remarks like "teams in the past showed more fight" which clearly aren't true at all

I'd suggest you read other replies on the thread next time instead of going just by the title of the thread

Sounds a bit nitpicky to pick out one statement and make all this hoopla about it tbh.

 

[Abdul]

Sounds a bit nitpicky to pick out one statement and make all this hoopla about it tbh.

Then that is not our fault - The analyst should've thought more carefully before making remarks!

 

[proud_pakistani]

If it's hypocritical of Shoaib Akhtar then it is hypocritical of all of us on pakpassion who have not played international cricket to criticize anything on cricket related matters. Shoaib was a match winner and played with heart. He was after the two Ws and Imran one of the best bowlers we have produced and has every right to
Critique on cricketing affairs despite him not doing so well in Australia.