I believe most people over-analyse Chief Selector, Head Coach, Chairman

[Bilal Ahmad15]

At the moment there are so many debates on who should be selected as Head Coach, Bowling coach, Batting, fielding coach etc. But if we think about it, in terms of tactics, what impact does a Head Coach or Bowling or Batting coach actually do? I might be wrong, but the role of these coaches is to improve the players technique, not so much tactics for matches.

In cricket, I believe the performances is down to the players, which is the reverse in what is seen in football (in football, managers have a huge impact on the tactics and performance, while the captain is mostly there for motivation and to lead by example).

We can have Saqlain Mushtaq, Mickey Arthur, Misbah Ul-Haq or whoever as the coach, but as long as the coaches are serious in improving the players technique in their department, then there probably wont be any coach who makes Pakistan a world class ODI and Test team out of nowhere.

Same is said for the Selectors and Chairman. Everyone has their own opinion on why Mohammad Wasim should've stayed, or why Inzamam-ul-haq needs to come back, or why they should bring Shoaib Akhtar, but as long as the selector doesn't go crazy and start bringing all the old players like Malik, Akmal, Amir who all need to stay far away, then again, the selector cannot make Pakistan a legendary team, and a lot of criticism of the selectors (on most occasions) is unnecessary.

Because every year there are players who get hyped up after performing in domestic, but then when they play international, they are pretty much the same as the previous player they replaced... Did anybody notice this?

However, I have to say, it is better for Pakistan to have Ramiz Raja replaced. The way he completely ruined the pitches to make them flat and useless, is still, and will always be frustrating.

Overall, its down to the players who play on the field, not some corrupt Chief selector, or bad head coach. However, there have been some few instances where some coaches made an impact. Steve Rixon is the one coach (since 2016) who made a big impact to the Pakistan team, by heavily improving their fielding. A little bit Mickey Arthur, as under him, Pakistan had better batting in LOI, and also I noticed the T20 bowling has actually been brilliant since Shaun Tait arrived.


And the facts are Pakistan is now a unfortunately poor test team, and average ODI team.

T20 is the only format where Pakistan actually has a top team, but even this "top team" has some big problems, everyone knows the infamous (but unfortunately famous for most) Rizwan - Babar Opening partnership.

 

[Major]

bro, the whole debate is political actually..

Posters here dont care who gets appointed its by whom or under whom gets the appointment.

You see, Rameez Raja was a very terrible appointment, and yet none of these guys whined. Infact, when the pm of hte country choose a chairman through a loophole, no one cared. But when another party comes in and used a legal way to revoke a constitution, everyone starts crying.

No one cares who gets appointed, as long as people being appointed under PDM some fans who want Pakistan to suffer will whine about the appointments.

THink about it. Had Rameez Raja or Waseem Khna got the demerit points removed, we would had seen threads full of praises. As soon as Najem Sethi applied for an appeal we saw posters unhappy with this, and when the guy succeeded everyone stayed shush, infact they complained why he got the demerit points removed.

Thes fans are too much political now adays..

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

In before posters jump in to say Pakistan has no talent.

Fact is, the same cricket team can perform entirely differently under a different leadership set up. We saw it with Imran's Pakistan, with Eoin Morgan's England, Ganguly's India and with Border's Australia. Also possibly with Stoke's England.

Same set of players, entirely different results.

In cricket, it is far more down to the captain than selectors/coaches/chairmen, but how they back the captain's philosophy matters a lot too.

My point is: we don't know what the ceiling of Pakistani players is until a real good leadership set up and an elite captain comes in. They may still be rubbish, but we don't know until we remove all other variables.

 

[Rana]

bro, the whole debate is political actually..

Posters here dont care who gets appointed its by whom or under whom gets the appointment.

You see, Rameez Raja was a very terrible appointment, and yet none of these guys whined. Infact, when the pm of hte country choose a chairman through a loophole, no one cared. But when another party comes in and used a legal way to revoke a constitution, everyone starts crying.

No one cares who gets appointed, as long as people being appointed under PDM some fans who want Pakistan to suffer will whine about the appointments.

THink about it. Had Rameez Raja or Waseem Khna got the demerit points removed, we would had seen threads full of praises. As soon as Najem Sethi applied for an appeal we saw posters unhappy with this, and when the guy succeeded everyone stayed shush, infact they complained why he got the demerit points removed.

Thes fans are too much political now adays..

This is 100% correct

It is too unnecessarily political. Personally I hope Pakistan is split into Imran Khan’s pakistan and the remainder belonging to the previous regimes in charge

Don’t think the two can ever go hand in hand as countrymen

 

[MenInG]

This is 100% correct

It is too unnecessarily political. Personally I hope Pakistan is split into Imran Khan’s Pakistan and the remainder belonging to the previous regimes in charge

Don’t think the two can ever go hand in hand as countrymen

Not sure what you mean. Explain please.

 

[Rana]

Not sure what you mean. Explain please.

What I mean is that I don’t see the supporters of Imran Khan’s regime and his influence on cricket, plus the ideology of their fan base be supportive of anyone elected by any other government

For me, Pakistan cricket and the loyalties of the fans are truly split/broken. I don’t see them ever being on the same page ever again.

This is from my cricketing perspective. From a political perspective, I have the same view but that’s more of a time pass debate.

I personally know and associate with the cricket that was given to me to enjoy by the pre-Imran Khan PTI influence.

If he comes back in power and stamps his imprint again, I won’t be a part of it.

 

[Markhor]

I agree with @Corridor of Uncertainty. My frustration is not solely with the results, but what they call in tennis "unforced errors" of which there's been plenty over the last year. It's like we're competing against the opposition and our own management !

For example, selecting Zahid Mehmood over Abrar Ahmed vs ENG. A quick glance at their domestic numbers shows Zahid, not even Sindh's 1st choice spinner, isn't Test class. I'm not saying Abrar is some worldbeater, and that we would've beaten ENG in the Pindi Test with him, but we hamstrung ourselves from Ball One.

Another example is starting the tail at 7 vs AUS. We perhaps still would've lost the Test, but why take that risk in a series decider against a red-hot Australian attack ?

My argument is simple - a better captain or an elite coach has no influence over the quality of our mediocre talent pool. They may not have substantially improved our recent results. However I'd rather lose having done right everything IN our control from tactics to selections. Currently, not only are we losing under Babar and Saqlain but continually making basic errors as well.

 

[FearlessRoar]

These are the kinds of jobs that are always under the radar of fans because they are responsible for providing us positive results. If we do not overanalyze them, then what is the point of observing their performances!!!!