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"I have learnt a lot from my past mistakes" : Umar Amin

Hope he keeps his head down & keeps on scoring runs like today. Am a huge supporter of this lad because of his technique & hunger for runs
 
I'm hoping he can turn his career around and become a vital player for us.
 
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLEASE do not bring him back.

Unless it's for the T20i side only
 
MenInG said:
So does he not deserve a comeback in the senior side? (86* against Zim)
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lets see how he fares in rest of the matches and upcoming domestic season
lets wait till this domestic season concludes
he would be only 28 in 2017
 
Class is permanent.

I'd take this guy's 24 ball 18 over some pathetic 66 ball 40, as an audience that's what you want to see. No matter how brief the innings, it's those moments of "oohs" and "aahs" from well played cricket shots that you pay to watch live. If I wanted to see some hack hoick every ball I'd watch baseball.

Amin will make it. Every team has a class player he will be ours.

Sabbir Rehman - Umar Amin - Shaun Marsh doesn't matter how brief the stay, the class is always there.
 
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Hawkeye said:
Absolutely.

The most aesthetically pleasing, technically correct, best stroke-maker in the country right now.

Plus has lots of performances in the last 1-2 years too.
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Where would you bat him in the odi team?
 
Hasan123 said:
Where would you bat him in the odi team?
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Ideally as an opener or #3. Number 4 can work too. Enjoys pace.


Suleiman said:
Class is permanent.

I'd take this guy's 24 ball 18 over some pathetic 66 ball 40, as an audience that's what you want to see. No matter how brief the innings
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sully, you're going overboard now with sarcasm. :usman
 
Hawkeye said:
Ideally as an opener or #3. Number 4 can work too. Enjoys pace.




sully, you're going overboard now with sarcasm. :usman
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Fair enough. He has the talent and the shots just needs to improve mentally. Also hope he works on his bowling as well. Wouldn't be suprised if he's in the next odi and test squad
 
asfandyar said:
Too bad he remains hungry for the most part.
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The lad is just 26. He has lots to improve before making the selectors notice him. Lets see how he fares in the future & then comment on what his prospects are.
 
He should only be selected for test cricket

class batsman in this format
 
another clumsy player surviving on the back of "asethetically pleasing" chip fitted on our fans.
 
*syed59* said:
another clumsy player surviving on the back of "asethetically pleasing" chip fitted on our fans.
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Not given enough chances in Test matches after 2010.

Remember Shafiq and Younis are failures in ODI so what does that tell you?
 
godzilla said:
thankfully the pcb seem to have learned from their past mistakes too and wont select this crap thoroughly mediocre batsman again.

cant even score in domestic where even guys like farhat score significantly better than he does, both in fc and LA, and even that as an opener.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/288211.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/40582.html
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Other players who Imran Farhat averages higher than in first-class cricket: Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Other players who Imran Farhat averages higher than in first-class cricket: Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq.
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very fair. next in line though, if we are going down this path, is alam. haris if he's fit, rizwan even - they all have performed better. amin is nowhere near the reckoning.
 
The worst batsman to come out of Pakistan. Good to see him not being part of the team.
 
if PCB thinks he is next in our test squad than must be given selection priorities for test at least keep him in the touring side.

i think in future we will have a complete different side for test and Limited cricket. we do not have batsmen who will perform in both formats.

so he must try to cement place in test side and even try opening if he wants an early entry. at least he will be batter than hafiz and Shan Masood.
 
Never been a fan of this guy but it would do wonders for Pakistan in a post Misbah era if he can develop his bowling to a Ganguly or Waugh level. Perhaps a capable right arm seamer who can bowler 3-4 over spells and then make it on batting merit too as there's only 1 leftie in the current Pakistani line up...

Sami
Azhar
Babar
Shafiq
YK
Amin
Sarfraz
Amir
Yasir
Wahab/Hamza or another leftie
**right armer*
 
I personally feel he's one of those players who can do well in the domestic circuit but fail on the international stage. He got out in some ugly ways during the last England tour. And it didn't feel like he ever had control of the situation.

If there's anyone who deserves a shot at Test cricket it's Fawad Alam.
 
He is more suited for the ODI format and should be in the squad vying for the crucial number 6 position.

Umar Amin is one lad who if developed correctly would have been a huge asset, but as per typical Pakistan discarded him too early without giving him a proper chance to succeed.

Umar Amin is another casualty of the Misbah era.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
would like to see how arthur handles him...
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If given full freedom, Arthur will play him at 4 in Test & probably as No. 3 in ODI, taking Babar one slot up to make a left-right opening pair (& kick Azhar out of even his List A teams, PSL already has done that from T20).
 
MMHS said:
If given full freedom, Arthur will play him at 4 in Test & probably as No. 3 in ODI, taking Babar one slot up to make a left-right opening pair (& kick Azhar out of even his List A teams, PSL already has done that from T20).
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Do you think Amin is capable of being a seamer in tests of the Ganguly or Collingwood mold? I'm not really a fan of him if I'm honest because he's a complete mental midget but I do think he has potential with the bat as he's of the few batsmen in Pakistan with capability of shots all round the wicket- meaning he may not get bogged down easily. On top of that he can bowl pace and that gives him a great advantage ahead of players like Usman, Saud, Fawad, etc and he's a much better batsman than the Yamins and Azams of pakistan who are in no way top 6 batsmen. I think he's needed more in tests, regardless of the fact that he might be superior in shorter formats.
 
He should be given a long run after the two oldies left us, one of the best, if not THE best batsman in Pakistan mot in the national team at the moment.
 
Haz95 said:
Do you think Amin is capable of being a seamer in tests of the Ganguly or Collingwood mold? I'm not really a fan of him if I'm honest because he's a complete mental midget but I do think he has potential with the bat as he's of the few batsmen in Pakistan with capability of shots all round the wicket- meaning he may not get bogged down easily. On top of that he can bowl pace and that gives him a great advantage ahead of players like Usman, Saud, Fawad, etc and he's a much better batsman than the Yamins and Azams of pakistan who are in no way top 6 batsmen. I think he's needed more in tests, regardless of the fact that he might be superior in shorter formats.
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Potential is there, but he has to be hungry & hard working. His career track suggests that his personality trait is opposite to someone like Imran Khan - that's shallow. But, he has age, height at his side, very good athlete, if he is willing, can be a great asset as 5th bowler outside Asia - almost what was MoHa in Asia.
 
Syed1 said:
He is more suited for the ODI format and should be in the squad vying for the crucial number 6 position.

Umar Amin is one lad who if developed correctly would have been a huge asset, but as per typical Pakistan discarded him too early without giving him a proper chance to succeed.

Umar Amin is another casualty of the Misbah era.
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I think he isn't very strong mentally. He moves on the field like a little girl. And also haris sohail was a big upgrade over him.
 
Syed1 said:
He is more suited for the ODI format and should be in the squad vying for the crucial number 6 position.

Umar Amin is one lad who if developed correctly would have been a huge asset, but as per typical Pakistan discarded him too early without giving him a proper chance to succeed.

Umar Amin is another casualty of the Misbah era.
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Bhai he has had plenty of chances but never performed and frankly is not good enough.

I am surprised you bring him up since some of the players you dislike actually have far better numbers than he does (:uak :maqsood:shezzy)

I would keep Rizwan at no. 6 for now or play Hafeez there (no. 6 would be the ONLY position where Hafeez should play ODI's if at all)

Or play Imad at 6 and play a pace bowlign all-rounder like Hammad Azam or Amir Yamin at 7.
 
MMHS said:
If given full freedom, Arthur will play him at 4 in Test & probably as No. 3 in ODI, taking Babar one slot up to make a left-right opening pair (& kick Azhar out of even his List A teams, PSL already has done that from T20).
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I think Umar Amin is playing for Quetta this time, hope Viv and KP make him brisky and gutsy... He needs to pile up runs.. he is quite inconsistent in domestics too for his technique, like a lazy cricketer...he has to work hard on concenteration...I was expecting him to fill the opener slot but he has to blame himself for his failure...Very sure Arthur has hunted Babar as his boy and taken him under his wings, hopefully BABAR live up to his potential and expectations..
 
50* off 51 balls so far for Punjab vs Balochistan
 
AMAZING batting today, 58 so far at 100 Strike Rate.

BUt.. what's totally SPECIAL about Amin is his ability to time the ball so well, he's a PERFECT stroke maker.

He's just another Saeed Anwar when it comes to aesthetics, playing with the straight bat, playing ALL AROUND the wicket.

Not just relying on legside midwicket hacks.

BRING HIM IN INZI.
 
Hawkeye said:
AMAZING batting today, 58 so far at 100 Strike Rate.

BUt.. what's totally SPECIAL about Amin is his ability to time the ball so well, he's a PERFECT stroke maker.

He's just another Saeed Anwar when it comes to aesthetics, playing with the straight bat, playing ALL AROUND the wicket.

Not just relying on legside midwicket hacks.

BRING HIM IN INZI.
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Amin should be in.
 
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] he is also rotating strike against spin very well. Much more complete bat than any of our other ones
 
Let's see if he can keep this performance up in the rest of the tournament, can't select him on basis of one knock.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] he is also rotating strike against spin very well. Much more complete bat than any of our other ones
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He has no issues be it pace or spin.

Our clueles selectors have been picking up rubbish like Shehzad, Rizwan, Shafiq again and again.

But don't give enough/consistent chances to THE player that belongs in Babar Azam and Haris Sohail league - Umar Amin.
 
Markhor said:
Let's see if he can keep this performance up in the rest of the tournament, can't select him on basis of one knock.
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Lol. I would've selected him even without this knock. He has done decently in the last few domestic seasons.

And domestic spreadsheets are not the only criteria in my book. He's a gifted player ability wise better than EVERYONE in Pakistan team except Babar Azam.

Deserves a blind run for 20 matches.
 
Hawkeye said:
He has no issues be it pace or spin.

Our clueles selectors have been picking up rubbish like Shehzad, Rizwan, Shafiq again and again.

But don't give enough/consistent chances to THE player that belongs in Babar Azam and Haris Sohail league - Umar Amin.
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Best thing is today he is playing free flowing, This is how he should play, He looked in severe nerves whenever I saw him bat for Pakistan.
 
I dont mind his selection over Kamran A / A. Shehzad given his seam ups can be a handful in England
 
though opposition's bowling attack was quite toothless.

Still credit to him. Others failed while he excelled today
 
The way he is batting in middle overs is fantastic. Picking gaps, Taking singles, Using feet against spin.

Fantastic.
 
needs to have a tournament that obliterates his very mediocre domestic List A career to be considered.
My personal opinion is that he is a very soft player. but hey, I dont make the selection calls.
 
Pete Rose said:
needs to have a tournament that obliterates his very mediocre domestic List A career to be considered.
My personal opinion is that he is a very soft player. but hey, I dont make the selection calls.
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We haven't seen the best of him in internationals yet. He's had very good last few domestic seasons.

Will do great now if he's recalled - and given a good run.
 
Hawkeye said:
We haven't seen the best of him in internationals yet. He's had very good last few domestic seasons.

Will do great now if he's recalled - and given a good run.
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Should bat in top order.

Very good in finding gaps so will do well in finding boundary during power play
 
Hamza_ said:
Should bat in top order.

Very good in finding gaps so will do well in finding boundary during power play
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Arsalan Pro said:
He has a good offside game, should be selected as an opener for Pakistan.
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Can be an ideal anywhere between opener to number 4.

Also, Bilal Asif needs to come in at number 5 or 6. Can replace Malik as Bilal can hit against pace.
 
How on Earth did this guy not play in the PSL?

Surely he is good enough to be given chances.
 
We wasted so many games on Younis,Shafiq, Farhat, Kami, and other TTFs between 2010-2015 instead of investing in Amin and Harris.
 
Given the lack of options Amin should be considered as an opener . I just fear mentally he won't be able to play
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Given the lack of options Amin should be considered as an opener . I just fear mentally he won't be able to play
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He'll be coming off good domestic performances this time. Been doing very good.

So, the nerves would be sorted out. Besides, it's not just nerves. He was never given a consistent run.

1 or 2 matches here and there, dropped, then recalled again for 1 or 2 matches and played at awkward positions.

Misbah didn't really help him either.
 
Well he has shown his mettle today. Extraordinary innings considering the circumstances. Provided that he performs reasonably well throughout the rest of the tournament I think he has a real chance of earning a recall as an opener for Pakistan.
 
If we can select Kamran Akmal after 2 innings in an exhibition T20 tournament, why can't we select this guy? It's not like we have alternatives.
 
Hasan123 said:
We wasted so many games on Younis,Shafiq, Farhat, Kami, and other TTFs between 2010-2015 instead of investing in Amin and Harris.
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all thanks to Misbah the great gentleman. Umar Amin and Harris were two wasted talents during his dictatorial era.
 
The could absolutely be the best thing for Pakistan.

In dire need of an opener, and CLH hits form. To have him selected and opening in Champions Trophy is a mouth watering prospect, despite his inconsistent performance at this level previously.

I hope he continues to perform in this domestic tournament. Any one from the management who then watches him will be instantly impressed and forced to select him over trash like Kami and Shehzad.
 
Umar Amin along with Asad Technique and Shehzad are the worst ODI batsmen to come out of Pakistan.
 
Agree with everybody else. Get him in as an opener.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] he is a better option than Shehzad I would suppose. Because he adds another dimension to the lineup as a left-hander.
 
We invested in the wrong Umar.

Amin should have been given the chances that Akmal got.
 
I have always liked Amin's batting, in spite of the lack of runs. His stance, technique, balance - everything is very un-Pakistani, and he is a rare batsman who has been coached very well. However, there is more to cricket than these basic fundamentals because ultimately, it is a game of character. So far in his career, he has not shown the mental strength that is required to succeed at the top level. He has often appeared very soft and not eager enough to score runs.

Nonetheless, he is still very young and has a decade of cricket left in him. If he can sort his mental issues, he can do well in all three formats pretty much everywhere, because his foundation is very strong. Sitting at home will not solve his mental problems, he needs to play and be part of the squad. Given our existing options, it is time that he is brought back into the fold. Would like to see him in the Test squad after this tour. He has done well in F/C cricket in the last 2 years and Test cricket could give him the mental discipline that he has lacked so far in his career.
 
Mamoon said:
I have always liked Amin's batting, in spite of the lack of runs. His stance, technique, balance - everything is very un-Pakistani, and he is a rare batsman who has been coached very well. However, there is more to cricket than these basic fundamentals because ultimately, it is a game of character. So far in his career, he has not shown the mental strength that is required to succeed at the top level. He has often appeared very soft and not eager enough to score runs.

Nonetheless, he is still very young and has a decade of cricket left in him. If he can sort his mental issues, he can do well in all three formats pretty much everywhere, because his foundation is very strong. Sitting at home will not solve his mental problems, he needs to play and be part of the squad. Given our existing options, it is time that he is brought back into the fold. Would like to see him in the Test squad after this tour. He has done well in F/C cricket in the last 2 years and Test cricket could give him the mental discipline that he has lacked so far in his career.
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I think it was terrible decision not to give him even a single match in the PSL, I watched his whole innings today and his shots were exclusive with some very good batting on display, Playing PSL would have let him explore more himself as a batsman and also ensure that he had stayed on the radar for national selection.

Very good thing about him is his ability to find gaps and this is why when he bats at top order, Finds boundaries while finding gaps and bisecting the field, In the middle overs scores runs easily and places balls away from fielders, Today intent was there with the fact that he got to his hundred by coming down the ground and lifting it straight for a six.

Also well educated and seems sensible guy but as you said he looks soft and in his International Outings looked out of sorts but that can happen, However his intent was very clear today and despite falling wickets he consistently played at strike rate of around 100, I hope he does well for the rest of tournament.
 
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