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Fawad shoopershtar is a PP legend and should remain as such.
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Fawad shoopershtar is a PP legend and should remain as such.
His whole game is tuk and run like a madman with a helmet that's 3 sizes too big). In 2014, the aussies cut off his singles and he got out on single digits. That's basically how you deal with Fawad Alam. [MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION] [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]
That's right.
You block his singles, especially pace bowlers, and he'll be like a headless deer in lights.
Don't let spreadsheet warriors tell you how batting works.
Good post.
It doesn't take any genius to tell Fawad cannot play pace, and will even struggle against spin if you block his singles with a close field.
Fawad doesn't face any kind of competition at domestic level or against SL etc.
Any decent team will figure out within 5 overs how to get him out. Bowl pacers, or even bowl spinners against him and block his singles.
Spreadsheet warriors will never understand this. That's why we have selector, coach and captain!
They all judged something in the training camp which was already obvious in his previous televised cricket matches. cc [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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Let's recap. Performance in domestic matches and international Tests does not matter. Net sessions do.
This at least makes sense of why Rahat was selected yet again. As we all know, he looks amazing in the nets.
The fact the he averages 37 with the ball in Tests and 45(?) in England is just a distraction. Don't let reality confuse you. Performing when it matters on the field is not what counts. Just watch net sessions.
So only one person is responsible for our whitewashes I now know cricket is an individual sport. My friend let me remind you he averaged around 30 in club cricket here yes around 30 in club cricket. I don't care what younis Khan says I have my eyes too and more importantly the selectors and the coach too hence he's not in the team. If he was any good they would have picked. I don't know who that's hockey player or our greatest captain name is but I am sure he was a better player then him unless it's grandad.
Rahat is a rhythmic bowler. He has won one Test in UAE.
If you look at his Test stats, 58 wickets in 40 innings, but 8 innings of 3+ wickets - that's 35 of 58 in 8 innings and 23 in 22. This indicates that his range is too wide for up & down - he is not a consistent performer (good/bad isn't a question here). PAK's pace resources doesn't have the luxury to find a pacer who would take 35 in 8 and 55 in other 22 - that's 90 in 30 innings; or 20 Tests. Next best option is to pick someone, who has a spike in performance and hope that out of 4 innings, he has 2 spikes. Besides, guy has majority of his 58 for top 6, instead of doing tail cleaning job.
Coming to his inclusion in Test XI, this is probably the only wise decision among limited pace choices (you don't credit selectors for picking Amir or not dropping Hasan). This PAK attack is vertically challenged - among taller pacers there are only 3 experienced - Rahat, Wahab & Sohail. Sohail is struggling with stamina while Wahab isn't an English condition pacers, though still I would have taken him instead of 9 specialist bats. You need one new ball pacer to partner Amir and based on PSL opening spell, I don't think there is any one remotely close to Rahat.
10 wickets in a game doesn't depend on bowling quality only - Bob Willis doesn't have any, because whenever he got 6+ in 1st innings, somehow he hardly had the chance to bowl in 2nd - 325 wickets in 90 Tests doesn't look anything special, but his average and SR was among contemporary best. PAK domestic had been played for 250-260 overs during most of Rahat's career (probably entire career - I have been complaining for last 7/8 years), often pacers don't get 2nd innings/not needed in 2nd innings to stack up numbers. He has 244 wickets at 24 in 69 games (122 innings) with a SR of 48 and 24 innings of 4+ wickets - more than enough to be one of 5 for this PAK attack.
Fawad was badly exposed in the only Test he played in NZ. Apart from one innings of 168 made on 2nd innings of a Test against SRL (where he faced Kulashekara, Thilan Thushara & Anjelo), his other scores are 16, 16, 16, 29 & 5. And that 29 is probably one of the ugliest 29 I had ever seen. It's a bit different experience in UK than that Test at P Sara Oval
I think, he is quite good a spin player and deserved a chance against SRL last winter; but I won't have picked him in UK tour even in 2010, in his peak; now it's simply absurd that people are backing him (rather criticizing IuH not picking him) for an ENG/IRL tour in May-June. In those 2 Tests, probably the highest level of spin he'll face is Moeen and couple of change overs from Root - that too, probably in 2nd innings.
2nd issue I see is that, there is a feelings, had he been Lahore based (or Punjabi), probably would have been selected; which might be the case previously (between 2010-2015) I don't know, but in same period Asad has enjoyed almost a free run, even in ODI and now the Captain is coming from same City.
Personally, I might be biased here, because I won't pick any batsman, unless he impresses me as a batsman first. Out of box style is good for a change for a while, but I haven't seen a single batsman (cricketer) with unorthodox technique serving for long - eventually they get caught for lack of fundamental base. Fawad's domestic records are a surprise, but that probably explains the quality of PAK domestics (and the Captaincy to block scoring areas of an extremely limited player with very little power behind shots even for slogging out of trouble), more than quality of Fawad's batting.
Ul Haq's squad is excellent for the tour - no complaints, may be he should have picked one extra WK and Wahab/another pacer instead of 4 openers. Fawad should have been in UAE, but that can't be an excuse to pick him in UK now.
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Admirable to go so far out on a limb for Rahat but, to extend the metaphor, everything in this reasoning creaks mightily. And I say this as someone who always enjoys your postings.
Pakistan's pace options are limited, ie there aren't many suitable candidates, only if the job description is to be Rahat Ali. Only if the intent is to put the fix on the application process would it make sense to insist that only tall bowlers with 'experience' need apply. Criteria which are in and of themselves dubious.
Rahat's is notorious for NOT being a thinking bowler. He is someone who runs in and hopes for the best, and often looses confidence. In other words, 'rythmic bowler' is a euphemism. He is soft, perhaps the softest player to play Test cricket for Pakistan in recent years. In other words, he is a bowler who does not become better with experience.
If the criteria for selection of new Test bowlers extends beyond being Rahat Ali, then are better options than Rahat Ali. Mir Hamza and Sadaf Hussain.
An inability to take 10 fers is not explained by the peculiarities of Pakistani domestic cricket. Mir has 6 10fers and Sadaf has 5 10fers.
Rahat's domestic average of 24, is merely good by current standards. These days it does NOT by any stretch place him in the top 5 bowlers in the country. Mir and Sadaf average around 19, with SRs around 38. Rahat averages 24, with SR 48.
Every attribute a bowler possesses, be it speed or height, is desirable in so far as it translates into wickets. Comparatively speaking, Rahat is not very good at wicket. This suggests that his height does not afford him the advantages one would hope for.
One bowler who clearly leverages his height to great effect is Sadaf, who is regularly more effective than many faster bowlers. Indeed, Sadaf is the tallest, well performing domestic bowler available in Pakistan, after Irfan. Mir Hamza is just a bit shorter than Wasim, going by pictures, which would be tall enough for many.
No Test bowler should be selected on the basis of performing in a T20 tournament. These are different formats. If we cannot agree on this then we won't agree on much else.
Rahat has an awful record in England, averaging a scarcely believable 50 after three Tests there.
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And I have seen way better cricketers than Imam ul Haq...
Sadaf is a mystery for myself as well. I have never seen him in a live telecast and since his raise in domestics, at least 5 different sets of Coach, bowing coach, CS, captain .. probably PCB Chairman as well have come and gone by - none has picked him. Either he is genuinely poor, or there are off field issues. I can't tell much of him just from domestic records, because last guy with similar domestic stats was Asad Ali ...and I have seen him.
Hamza could have been an option (provided that he has the fitness), and I have seen him swinging the ball; but I 180 degree apart opinion for Hamza here in PP, therefore can't conclude. Probably, they have gone for the experienced campaigner who had a decent outing last time in UK (don't go by average only - he cleaned Pom's top 3 in opening spell at Lord's 2nd innings to set up the game; Yasir alone won't have defended 270 ish score there).
I think, there is a popular tendency is to criticize for the sake of it. I am certainly not a fan of Ul Haq, the CS of PCB; but here I don't see much fault. The common myth is that Test squad was picked based on PSL performance, which I find a bit bizarre - 5 of the 9 batsmen picked were not even drafted in PSL, 6th one was a flop and 7th one had few lethargic outings - may be Babar & FZ impressed with their PSL heroics.
Similarly for bowlers, Shadab was a PSL flop this time, certainly not star and he is there only because Yasir is injured. Amir & Hasan would have been 1st pick even with a disaster in PSL (arguably both were under per in PSL for their reputation), Abbas didn't even carry drinks in PSL while Fahim indeed performed in PSL, so did Talat; but Fahim was picked because he was a decent prospect for pace bowling all-rounder in a near empty field. Had Talat been picked, I could have seen PSL in it, but even without PSL, next man after Fahim is Hammad Azam .........
Left only 2 guys - Fawad wasn't picked because he wasn't there in PSL and Rahat is there ONLY because of his PSL show, which is a bit tough to swallow. I think, most posters are a bit carried away with Asim Kamal and joined the band wagon, but AK was settling some scores for the treatment he got when Ul Haq was a commanding Captain; here in PP we should be more judgmental. Apart from Captain, if 12 of the 15 are picked after a flop or no show in PSL, it's (selection) certainly is not intoxicated by PSL.
Personally, I won't have picked Fawad in UK Series regardless of PSL (And regardless how many batsmen are picked - in my order 10th to 13th picks would have been Amin, Ahmed, Saud & Talat ahead of Fawad) and would have picked Rahat provided that he is fit. I don't see any issue there - may be they should have dropped couple of batsmen and pick a back-WK and a pacer, for which surely Hamza or Sadaf could be called; but for a 2 Test series, I am perfectly OK with the 4 pacer picks.
Please stop with the damn conspiracy theories. Fawad was not picked because he barely averaged over 40 in the QEA trophy and is 32 years old. Everyone else has either outperformed him, has a much higher ceiling by virtue of their age or both.
Fawad was named in the preliminary squad of 25 and so, there is no agenda against him, he simply is not a better batsman than the others picked above him.
Yes, had Fawad been selected, the team would be under no pressure and winning a series in England was guranteed.
Only Saad Ali had a better avg. then Fawad this past season yet he has been ignored once again while Babar and Sami who have been utterly mediocre have been selected, Imam who had a 27 avg. this past season somehow warrants selection and Inzi wants us to believe that it was the decision of Arthur and Grant. What is Inzi getting paid for then?
Lets call a spade a spade. Inzi screwed up royally here and there is no two ways about it. Not selecting Fawad against SL cost us and they continue to ignore him. Hope this team gets manhandled in the UK as payback for undeserving selections made by Inzi and this think tank.
Fawad, Mir Hamza and Sadaf, all 3 deserved selection in place of Imam, Rahat and Amir.
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“I have seen better selectors than Inzimam-ul-Haq”, Fawad Alam.
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I don't have any major issues with the selections, barring the inclusion of Rahat. I would have liked to see Fawad and feel for the injustice done to him. But I think that other players are also deserving a shot and may do a comparably good job in England. Fawad's non selection for SL is the true howler. Rahat has had his chances, several times over, and never really earned his keep. An ageing erratic bowler with an average of 50 in England and no standout performances in domestics to justify is re selection is included at the expense of players who are several orders of magnitude better than him in domestics. It is just sad.
I won't wade into the Sadaf story here; merely point out that it is disingenuous to claim that his non selection is a mystery, when a) he has actually been selected for the national ODI team, and several A list teams. b) we know that an influential PCB official Shakeel Sheikh has a vendetta against him. c) we also understand that Mickey Arthur has a fetish for speed, as evidenced by his coddling of Rahat, and feels that Sadaf is on the slow side, 10 fers, List A series of the match awards, and beastly domestic performances notwithstanding. If Asif were just coming unto the scene now it is doubtful he would ever get to play.
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I think I made it clear that I am no fan of Amir, and would feel that it would be entirely fair to bench him. As for Rahat, I really can't begin to answer an argument for a player which begins with "what harm can he do?" He can go for 50 runs a wicket, as happened last time he was in England. Picking up a few wickets here and there is not good bowling. And we have alternatives to Rahat. He had his chance, and then had some more chances, I am sorry to say, yet selectors and coaches never learn.
Misbah ul Haq, a college grad as a hockey team captain if I'm not wrong...
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Fawad not playing for Sindh today in the Pakistan Cup. Dropped?
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How come fawad not playing today?
He should be captaining the sindh team in the first place.
He should be captaining the sindh team in the first place.
Inzamam said he's seen better batsmen than Fawad Alam.
Does that mean there's a batsman with a FC average of 57 ? Is there a FC batsman with 31 FC hundreds ?
What constitutes better ? How does he not get a place in this batting lineup ?
Does that mean there's a batsman with a FC average of 57 ? Is there a FC batsman with 31 FC hundreds ?
What constitutes better ? How does he not get a place in this batting lineup ?
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Yes, Inzi today our batsmen have shown that they all are better than Fawad who averages 55+ and scores tons of runs anytime.
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Fawad is no Brian Lara but I doubt he would've batted as spinelessly as most of the Pakistani team has today. If Azhar opened the batting instead of Hafeez/Imam, we could have easily had a spare slot in the team for Fawad Alam. Imam is trash and needs to go back to Domestic and improve against pace bowling.
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That's the problem. That's why he doesn't select others because they believe there are none better.
Where are they? Is he talking about his bhatija imam?
This squad selection deserves to receive a hammering. If we nick a Test then the selectors will feel vindicated and will continue selecting the deadwood when we badly need a revamp.
Selectors don't have the guts to do it themselves - they need the opposition to do their jobs for them.
Hopefully Steyn, Rabada and co will also help us end the LOI careers of Hafeez and Malik too.
But World cup will be near and their experience will be invaluable in the Alien conditions.
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He's right as he saw his very own Imam and doesn't consider anyone else to out do him anywhere.
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I was staying at my uncle's for X-mas and we were discussing earlier about how poor Pakistan's batting is. He is a huge fan of Fawad Alam and was saying that he deserves a recall and I brushed that aside saying how he isn't even doing much in domestic anymore but then I was checking the stats and didn't even realize he had quite a good domestic season in the QEA Trophy. I follow domestic cricket a lot so was surprised I had no idea how well he done this tournament. I really feel for the guy
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Uncle Inzi saw his nephew and now is eyeing up his son.
Son his entire family will be in the squad. Literally the whole 16.
Son his entire family will be in the squad. Literally the whole 16.
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Fawad would not last 10 balls with his hockey technique.
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Fawad would do well in the UAE and in Asia. But would struggle against any kind of movement.
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He has the best FC record for a decade and 100 times better then Mr. Asad Technique Shafiq.
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Fawad is not suited for Pakistan anymore.
Let’s get some younger guys in
Let’s get some younger guys in
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He doesn’t. He looks awkward at international level. On these bouncy wickets, he would be a bunny.
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What you are telling is only a Myth, not a fact. Fawad was the best batsman in Pakistan team in ODI series in Australia when he last toured.Hescored heavily on some of the worst pitches for batsmen in.Pskistani domestics those were green tops and heavily favoring the bowlers even the trundlers. He has the ability to perform anywhere.
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Zero trust in inzi ‘s selections infact he has lost respect , Imaam should never have been selected for the test squad , chachu besharam will be remembered as the guy who ended Fawad’s career to promote his useless nephew.. the guy is not even in the top 20 1st class performers in Pakistan for the last 3 years... but his second name is UL HAQ ..shame on Inzi & pcb
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Fawad Alam was also humiliated by Australia in 2014, in UAE for crying out loud. He is not good enough to play international cricket. Saad Ali and Saud Shakeel are the deserving candidates for now.
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Humiliated!! How you define it just after 2 matches?! Then how many times Hafeez,Asad got the humiliation still got numerous chances though they are guys not good enough for int cricket. Still Fawad has a lot better stats than these 2 useless bats.
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How far back was that?
He’s 32/33 now I would have thought. Time has past for him for Pakistan.
Saud and Saad should be inducted in to the squad instead.
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Humiliated is a light word, for what transpired. When Mohammad Irfan looks a better batsman than you, you really should leave cricket and take up something else. Australia ruthlessly ripped his game to shreds infront of the whole world in that series.
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He has the best FC record, mostly on green top wickets, moreover he scored 180+ in debut test match.
He had few bad innings and few of you are after him, while players like Asad Shafiq have made a career out of 80% useless innings.
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It doesn't mean anything . Once Rickey Ponting was beaten in consequative deliveries to Andrew Flintoff in an Ashes test in England after coming out to bat and Ponting was just like all in a sea before getting out to Flintoff. Was Pointing humiliated? I can give you multiple other examples of other great batsmen on a particular day. It doesn't mean humiliation, just a vicotory of bowlers on batsmen on that particular day. If Fawad can't play pace,how he became the highest run getter in an ODI series in Australia? Don't be rude unjustifiably to Fawad who is the highest average holder in FC cricket in Pakistan.Infact Pakistan missed the service of Fawad greatly over last few years. If he was an Indian or Srilankans or Bangladeshi, he would have played 100+ tests for sure as selection blunder and nepotism is not as great as Pakistan in these countries.
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Please re-read what I wrote, and come back with an analogy based on that. What you have stated is not humiliation.
Fawad Alam embarrassed us as a cricketing nation that day. A middle-order batsman not able to even take a single in the last five overs of an innings, is humiliating no matter how you look at it. I had still maintained he would be a decent stop-gap solution back in 2017. However, Saad and Saud are better than him at this point of time and more importantly, younger.
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Wow, you are bringing in one bad series and ignoring his entire FC career and massive runs scored.
Such disrespect can only happen in Pakistan.
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Fawad was coming back in the team after a long long time , I saw the match live,it can happen to any batsman, please don't take it as his entire skill set. He is definitely better than that. He would have been easily a 50 plus average batsman in tests, you may not take him in ODIs as he is a grafter, but he definitely deserved a permanent place in Pakistan test team in an era where batsman like Hafeez,Asad and Azhar gets a long long run in the team. He is denitely better than them. Why compare with Saud and Saad? Fawad debuted in 2009 and these two came into frame in 2017-18. Fawad should have been a regular in test team since 2009, so no competition with newbie Saud and Saad.
When a nation deprives and do injustice to it's talented and genius people, the God Allah stops sending the newer ones. Once, Pakistan was blessed with lots of genius cricketers. But now? No world class cricketer is available.
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Yes no one want fawad in odi team so stop posting the odi
Humiation etc.....he is needed for test matches only!
Humiation etc.....he is needed for test matches only!
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I’ve always said, Fawad does not have the technique to play world class fast bowling, against spinners the guy is world class but against proper pace the guy is clueless and a one trick pony.
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Fawad would have struggled in SAF. But there is no doubt that a player like him with 30 centuries would do well in UAE. Maybe the team would have not lost against NZ and SL if they had a big scoring middle order bat.
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The player with highest first class average in the history of Pakistan does not get selected.
Very disappointed with Inzamam
Very disappointed with Inzamam
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He was not even the hockey player who scores in any way, he was the guy who received the penalty corner hit, sets it up for the shooter and steps back to let the shooter/striker hit the ball and scores the goal.
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Only in Pakistan do you want to replace 30 year olds with more 30 year olds as a long term solution. Don’t think he would do much better outside of Asia to be honest.
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The only thing I'll probably say on Fawad's non-selection and its justification:
'If brain cells were a retail commodity, Pakistanis would essentially be its biggest consumer market'
'If brain cells were a retail commodity, Pakistanis would essentially be its biggest consumer market'
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In tests, Pakistan has been doing this injustice to No.6 position bats for a long time.
Before Fawad Alam, it was Asim Kamal whose place was taken by Faisal Iqbal who never performed and now in this decade, Asad Shafiq has been given the golden treatment despite a mediocre test career.
And the common factor in both occasion is Inzamam, before as a captain and now as a selector.
Before Fawad Alam, it was Asim Kamal whose place was taken by Faisal Iqbal who never performed and now in this decade, Asad Shafiq has been given the golden treatment despite a mediocre test career.
And the common factor in both occasion is Inzamam, before as a captain and now as a selector.
For the anti-Alam brigade - Fawad averages nearly 50 against departments who have the strongest bowling attacks in domestic cricket.
For comparison's sake, Salahuddin averages 36 against departments. How can his continued exclusion be justified ?
For comparison's sake, Salahuddin averages 36 against departments. How can his continued exclusion be justified ?
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Is Imam one of those better players?
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Is it possible to back that up with evidence? Don't disagree but would really like to see evidence.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Inzamam "We'd selected 15 players for the 2018 Test series in England. I was then given permission to include a 16th player & suggested the names of Saad Ali & Fawad Alam. Both the Captain (Sarfaraz) & Coach (Mickey Arthur), without hesitation said they wanted Saad Ali" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1204105958697373697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I pray Fawad to get a hundred in both innings. That would be the biggest slap on Inzi's face.
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Lots of unnecessary pressure on Fawad. If he fails even in a single innings, all knives will be out and people praying for his failure. Very unfortunate situation for the talented batsman. He is a batsman we need but don't deserve.
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If this is true, then Mickey (along with Sarfraz) deserve all the criticism for favouring a raw Saad Ali over the best batsman in domestic cricket (during the 2010s).
Unlike the cheerleaders of Mickey and Misbah, I point out the flaws of both camps.
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People like Inzi deserve "chittars"...!
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I have seen better players than Fawad Alam!
where have they gone?
which factory produce them?
where have they gone?
which factory produce them?
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Its good if cricket is played in pakistan but pakistan should worry about playing more test matches at the moment , the less you play the more likely your test team will decline in long run as pakistani domestic cricket isnt competitive enough.
Captain caveman
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Fawad was undeserving of playing in the inaugral t20 world cup, but was selected and played in it.
Fawad was deserving of playing test cricket and scored a big daddy hundred on debut iirc, then was dropped for a decade.
This should tell you all you need to know about pakistani selectors.
I think fawad will do well, may even score a century, but he hasn't got much time left to play for pakistan and we will never know if he could have made it big or not.
Anyway, Mr Alam, enjoy your test recall, its well deserved and long overdue!
Fawad was deserving of playing test cricket and scored a big daddy hundred on debut iirc, then was dropped for a decade.
This should tell you all you need to know about pakistani selectors.
I think fawad will do well, may even score a century, but he hasn't got much time left to play for pakistan and we will never know if he could have made it big or not.
Anyway, Mr Alam, enjoy your test recall, its well deserved and long overdue!
silentkiller187
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Now all we need is for Fawad to get a king pair on debut, this forum would go into over drive.
topspin
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I'm no fan of Inzy but I can see where he's coming from if you read the OP.
Also, in the past he has mentioned that he judges batsmen on a technical level and their ability to score runs at a good tempo, rather than merely looking at stats.
From a technical standpoint, Fawad's batting isn't the most proficient but it works for him, just like it worked for Chanderpaul, who he very much resembles in his batting stance and trigger movements. Having said that I do think his technique does limit his scoring areas.
It's a real shame that Fawad hasn't been given opportunities to play for Pakistan during his peak years.
Whilst recalling a 34 year old batsman is somewhat controversial, we could do with his short-term presence because there isn't a any other batsman in the squad who looks capable of scoring big hundreds i.e. 150+ scores. Azhar Ali was capable of scoring heavily but he's now well past his sell by date. Fawad's 100 -> 150+ conversion is remarkable and is something he has already achieved in national colours, despite having only played 3 tests.
Also, in the past he has mentioned that he judges batsmen on a technical level and their ability to score runs at a good tempo, rather than merely looking at stats.
From a technical standpoint, Fawad's batting isn't the most proficient but it works for him, just like it worked for Chanderpaul, who he very much resembles in his batting stance and trigger movements. Having said that I do think his technique does limit his scoring areas.
It's a real shame that Fawad hasn't been given opportunities to play for Pakistan during his peak years.
Whilst recalling a 34 year old batsman is somewhat controversial, we could do with his short-term presence because there isn't a any other batsman in the squad who looks capable of scoring big hundreds i.e. 150+ scores. Azhar Ali was capable of scoring heavily but he's now well past his sell by date. Fawad's 100 -> 150+ conversion is remarkable and is something he has already achieved in national colours, despite having only played 3 tests.
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leatherface58
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Bingo.
What is the point of picking someone like Abid Ali with SR of 39 over Fawad who averages 57? It is not like he averages 25 in Tests.
ishtiaq_ctg
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I feel former Pak players are the most unaware of the modern game & its requirements. Most of them are still stuck in the 90s. The only reason Fawad alam wasnt picked i think was because of his playing style. Most pakistani ex cricketers still think good looking batting=great batting. Also 90miles+ bowling=great bowling.
Pakistan if they want to get back to their glory days, needs to appoint foreign coaches at different age levels. If they cant afford it, then appoint qualified local coaches who knows about the modern game. In 2019, you cant win games just being tagda, daler & badmash
Pakistan if they want to get back to their glory days, needs to appoint foreign coaches at different age levels. If they cant afford it, then appoint qualified local coaches who knows about the modern game. In 2019, you cant win games just being tagda, daler & badmash
Inzi had a lot of hate for Fawad Alam.
Yes, Fawad isn't a super star in overseas conditions and mostly will fail there.
But, he can be a beast in Asian conditions.
Pointless post. Like most of yours.
Yes, Fawad isn't a super star in overseas conditions and mostly will fail there.
But, he can be a beast in Asian conditions.
Pointless post. Like most of yours.
SensiblePakFan
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Should see Inzi on youtube now, all praise these days.
Cpt. Rishwat
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Reading the OP, I wonder what happened to Saad Ali?
Can't say there is too much point in criticising the statement by Inzi, he should never have been put in a position to say those things in the first place.
Can't say there is too much point in criticising the statement by Inzi, he should never have been put in a position to say those things in the first place.
That's fact!!! Most of the current Indian batsmen are better than Inzamam.
Kohli, Rohit, Pant (potential), Gill (Potential)
Who should be criticized for wasting his prime years of test cricket. Even now the plan was for him to fail.
He was picked against SL cause of media pressure then not played at all. Taken to England and NZ.
Englands tour was nothing special but that 100 in NZ change their plans. Im sure if he didnt get that 100 he would be the first person to be dropped for SA tour. However, this is how Allah planned.
True Fighter without doubt
He was picked against SL cause of media pressure then not played at all. Taken to England and NZ.
Englands tour was nothing special but that 100 in NZ change their plans. Im sure if he didnt get that 100 he would be the first person to be dropped for SA tour. However, this is how Allah planned.
True Fighter without doubt
BunnyRabbit
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Funny thread. People have even questioned the selections of Babar Azam on this post. Some have called Fawad a joke and whatnot.
Hope Inzi doesn't say anything regarding any batter ever.
If a guy is averaging 55+ in FC for 10+ years, he must be doing something right.
To all the Mohsin Hasan Khans, Ilyases, Iqbal Qasims, Moin Khan, Haroon Rashids, INZIs, Waqar Younis, Whatmores, Mickeys, Donalds, Goofies,etc etc THIS GUY CAN SCORE RUNS. Stats dont lie.
I know Misbah is hated very much on PP, but got to give him the credit for finally picking Fawad during his tenure and dropping Asad Shafiq for good finally.
If I remember correctly, from 2003-2007, Misbah used to be the run charts leader in domestic, yet he would always say no to his selection. Inzi was a very strong captain with huge influence in selection matters.
Sarfraz and Shafiq are besties, so no surprise there.
KUDOS to FAWAD for proving his mettle, kudos to misbah for selecting him from wilderness in his correct format and playing him in the XI and Kudos to Younis for standing by Fawad's side and publicly defending his selection.
Hope Inzi doesn't say anything regarding any batter ever.
If a guy is averaging 55+ in FC for 10+ years, he must be doing something right.
To all the Mohsin Hasan Khans, Ilyases, Iqbal Qasims, Moin Khan, Haroon Rashids, INZIs, Waqar Younis, Whatmores, Mickeys, Donalds, Goofies,etc etc THIS GUY CAN SCORE RUNS. Stats dont lie.
I know Misbah is hated very much on PP, but got to give him the credit for finally picking Fawad during his tenure and dropping Asad Shafiq for good finally.
If I remember correctly, from 2003-2007, Misbah used to be the run charts leader in domestic, yet he would always say no to his selection. Inzi was a very strong captain with huge influence in selection matters.
Sarfraz and Shafiq are besties, so no surprise there.
KUDOS to FAWAD for proving his mettle, kudos to misbah for selecting him from wilderness in his correct format and playing him in the XI and Kudos to Younis for standing by Fawad's side and publicly defending his selection.
silentkiller187
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Ive seen better batsmen too, Babar Azam, Kohli, Steve Smith, Williamson, Root , pujara, rahane etc etc. problem is only one of them in that list is Pakistani.
