"I hope to leave for Pakistan in a few months’ time a transformed and better cricketer" : Mir Hamza

Justice prevails as Mir Hamza added to the squad.

He may not be the answer but at least he has a FC pedigree, and has bowled well in last two seasons of QEA Trophy with the Kookaburra.

Adding to the squad isn't the point, question is, who will he replace? Will he come in place of Hassan Ali?
 
Justice prevails as Mir Hamza added to the squad.

He may not be the answer but at least he has a FC pedigree, and has bowled well in last two seasons of QEA Trophy with the Kookaburra.

If by picking medium non descripts like Mir Hamza is supposedly the game changing decisions then may Allah help us. As I said bar a few debatable decisions the best team available was picked
 
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If by picking medium non descripts like Mir Hamza is supposedly the game changing decisions then may Allah help us. As I said bar a few debatable decisions the best team available picked

Robbinson is a medium pacer yet he is taking wicket. Hamza is 6 foot plus if he can move the ball around then he will be handful
 
Adding to the squad isn't the point, question is, who will he replace? Will he come in place of Hassan Ali?

They should throw out the Dadu Shane Warne AKA Zahid Mehmood. He's not FC standard let alone Test standard.
 
Robbinson is a medium pacer yet he is taking wicket. he is 6 foot plus if Hamza can move the ball around then he will be handful

Robinson is tall with a high action. He moves the ball from a high action. I hope I am wrong but if you ever wanted a run of the mill medium pacer then he is it
 
They should throw out the Dadu Shane Warne AKA Zahid Mehmood. He's not FC standard let alone Test standard.

You need to play with 2 or more spinners as Pakistan will go for same spin option. Where will Mir Hamza fit in?
 
You need to play with 2 or more spinners as Pakistan will go for same spin option. Where will Mir Hamza fit in?

He could be part of a 2 man seam attack with Hassan Ali? Shahid Afridi does not think Naseem is ready for the rigours of test cricket and that's not a bad opinion.
 
He offers control and has skill. Hope he gets an opportunity and the conditions have something on offer for quality pace bowling
 
Best of luck to the lad. Lets hope he proves critics like me wrong and makes us look like idiots for doubting him
 
Adding to the squad isn't the point, question is, who will he replace? Will he come in place of Hassan Ali?

He should. Hasan struggled in the fc season, hasn’t refound form yet so I don’t see the logic of bringing him back. Hamza looked very good early in the season before sitting out the second half (presumably through injury) and has had success upon his return in Lisa A
 
He should. Hasan struggled in the fc season, hasn’t refound form yet so I don’t see the logic of bringing him back. Hamza looked very good early in the season before sitting out the second half (presumably through injury) and has had success upon his return in Lisa A

Mir Hamza playing in the 1st Test.

His previous Test appearance before today:

Pakistan vs Australia at Abu Dhabi - October 16 - 19, 2018
 
Bowling within himself on a flat deck or has he lost a bit of zip in his bowling?
 
Bowling within himself on a flat deck or has he lost a bit of zip in his bowling?

Brough in with great hype by Chief Selector so must be something good in him I am sure.
 
Has he improved his pace or something? Last time he played, his pace in his only test against Australia was not much different from Abbas.

Ist innings average pace : 82 mph, fastest : 85 mph
2nd innings average pace : 80.6 mph, fastest : 84.8 mph

This was his pace in 2018. Any different today?
 
Don't think we can judge him yet. This pitch is exactly not helpful toward fast bowlers.

But, seems like a trundler. Could be effective on sluggish pitches though.
 
Sameen Gul or Arshad Iqbal may have been a better choice but on this sort of pitch it is not easy to take wickets.On English and Australian pitches 130-135 kph bowlers can bowl teams out if they bowl in the right areas.On these pitches 145+ bowlers struggle to take wickets.PCB and it’s curators are useless.
 
Overhyped bowler from Karachi. If he doesnt takee a few should be the end of his career.
Karachi region went crazy over this guy and he was the reason why M. Waseem lost his job.
 
I think this is the first time two Pathan boys are opening the bowling for Pakistan.
 
Brough in with great hype by Chief Selector so must be something good in him I am sure.

He deserved to play and given a chance regardless what result is. Imagine Faheem oe Hasan Ali playing instead of him that would been injustice.

And no hype just stating he deserved to be in because he Neen great in domestic. Think we need to leave politics aside and pick what's best not friends 11. We see what friends 11 did vs England.
 
Overhyped bowler from Karachi. If he doesnt takee a few should be the end of his career.
Karachi region went crazy over this guy and he was the reason why M. Waseem lost his job.

Afridi lives in Karachi and was bought up there. It's obvious that the Karachi lobby influences him to select players from that region.
 
He deserved to play and given a chance regardless what result is. Imagine Faheem oe Hasan Ali playing instead of him that would been injustice.

And no hype just stating he deserved to be in because he Neen great in domestic. Think we need to leave politics aside and pick what's best not friends 11. We see what friends 11 did vs England.

or imagine none of these guys playing and going for a tall bowler like Ihsanullah, not ready at the moment but hardly worse than the 80mph spinners we have.
 
Bowled with good control on non responsive pitch,was removed too early from the spell with new ball. Certainly better than Faheem, Mohd Ali and Wasin Junior in tests.
 
One problem is that Babar is a dumb captain, he is bringing in spin way to early. He has no plan at all. Bhai, use your pacers for few overs atleast, or atleast play express pacers on such a pace.

If you are gonna bring in a spinner early on, than atleast give the pacer a fair spell
 
He deserved his chance to show what he's got after years of toiling in FC cricket, but we always knew he's not someone exceptional otherwise he would've played much earlier.

He's a steady bowler who can bowl all day at 125-130kph and swing the ball in right conditions, not really suited for these wickets.
 
One problem is that Babar is a dumb captain, he is bringing in spin way to early. He has no plan at all. Bhai, use your pacers for few overs atleast, or atleast play express pacers on such a pace.

If you are gonna bring in a spinner early on, than atleast give the pacer a fair spell

He did give them an opening spell of 3-4 overs but there was nothing for them on that surface.
 
Brough in with great hype by Chief Selector so must be something good in him I am sure.

What did the Chief Selector specifically say about Mir Hamza that was hype?
 
I don't think he was that bad. We needed a left arm seam bowler for variety. But I do think Hassan Ali should have played instead of Mohammed Wasim Jnr as he is more experienced.

Having your pace attack which just 2 test matches behind them is more dumb thinking from whoever picked the team.
 
What's with this guy?

He can't bowl above 129kph.

Can't make the ball talk either like Asif or Anderson.

Not sure how he'll succeed at the international level, that too at 30.
 
Don't really rate him but the pitches have been rubbish to say the least
 
What's with this guy?

He can't bowl above 129kph.

Can't make the ball talk either like Asif or Anderson.

Not sure how he'll succeed at the international level, that too at 30.

Anderson does talking with ball mainly on supportive pitches and lot of experience. We seen what damage our 140k+ bowlers can do with their speed... not much. Let him play atleast 3 tests continuously before passing judgment.
 
Anderson does talking with ball mainly on supportive pitches and lot of experience. We seen what damage our 140k+ bowlers can do with their speed... not much. Let him play atleast 3 tests continuously before passing judgment.

No, Anderson's been good in Asia as well.

Hamza so far has feasted on poor domestic batsmen and poor pitches that can often assist pacers, uneven bounce etc.

Let's see what he has to offer at the international level which is very competitive.

I'm very much for giving him some chances. Not saying discard right away.
 
or imagine none of these guys playing and going for a tall bowler like Ihsanullah, not ready at the moment but hardly worse than the 80mph spinners we have.

I really like Ihsanullah. He needs one more season but I hope they keep him for red ball cricket.
 
Seriously how hard is for us to produce bowlers who can average 140-145 kph and can swing/seam the ball? This Mir Humza is a trundler with no skills.
 
Too early to judge esp on these wkts

Lets see how he gets on through the remaining game
 
Seriously how hard is for us to produce bowlers who can average 140-145 kph and can swing/seam the ball? This Mir Humza is a trundler with no skills.

Exactly - standards are so low that I’ll even accept an average of 135kph. These guys barely break 128ks and the effort ball is 132. Pathetic
 
Exactly - standards are so low that I’ll even accept an average of 135kph. These guys barely break 128ks and the effort ball is 132. Pathetic

For a nation that produced the fastest bowler of all time, our inability to produce proper fast bowlers is truly shocking.
 
There’s a reason he was never picked after his first test. Alas, it is a forgivable selection given his FC record
 
Looks a far better bowler than Naseem. Much better control which is not surprising when he has over 90 FC matches under his belt.

He should be persisted with. Need to reward seasoned FC players & instead of overhyped T20 jokers.
 
Would be decent on a decent pitch. Sad they have to ball on flat wickets of Pakistan
 
Apart from Shaheen none of 140+ bowlers has done much for Pakistan last 5 years. So stop whining about speed. Pitches in Pakistan are phatta all pace bowlers look ordinary, and the ones with one test will of course will struggle. Hamza has bowled well all three spells and kept batsmen quite on this pitch, his controlled created some pressure for Nauman and Abrar to take wicket each from the other end. Hamza himslef created few wicket taking deliveries for himself but was unlucky,on another day he could already had two,despitenot being bowled enough by the captain. We need to give him two more matches to see what he is capable of, but not much hope in Pakistani pitches.
 
Would be decent on a decent pitch. Sad they have to ball on flat wickets of Pakistan

Yes, did what he could really.

Beat the bat a few times and kept things tight.

About the best he could achieve really.
 
Sorry but he's an 80 mph left arm trundler who is not particularly tall nor does he have anything except the ball that angles away. It is clear that going by QEA numbers is not enough. Mohammad Ali was poor and so is this guy.

Just keep backing Shaheen, Naseem, Hasnain, Dahani and hope they come good. Nobody else looks like they have ay real ability.
 
Sorry but he's an 80 mph left arm trundler who is not particularly tall nor does he have anything except the ball that angles away. It is clear that going by QEA numbers is not enough. Mohammad Ali was poor and so is this guy.

Just keep backing Shaheen, Naseem, Hasnain, Dahani and hope they come good. Nobody else looks like they have ay real ability.

Those guys apart from Shaheen haven't done anything either granted Hasnain and Dahani haven't had much of a shot at test cricket.

Wasim was worth a try as the fast bowling options are slim picking right now.
 
He was selected on merit but I am afraid he is not good enough for international matches. This does show you the talent level in Pakistan is quite low when non-international level players makes a killing,
 
Sorry but he's an 80 mph left arm trundler who is not particularly tall nor does he have anything except the ball that angles away. It is clear that going by QEA numbers is not enough. Mohammad Ali was poor and so is this guy.

Just keep backing Shaheen, Naseem, Hasnain, Dahani and hope they come good. Nobody else looks like they have ay real ability.
Are you going by cricinfo scorecard or did you actually see footage of seeing him bowl?

He bowled really well on this flat karachi pancake and beat the bat a few times.
 
Feel bad for him - worked hard and then Pakistan did not appeal for a catch behind!

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Are you going by cricinfo scorecard or did you actually see footage of seeing him bowl?

He bowled really well on this flat karachi pancake and beat the bat a few times.

Yes he bowled OK at times

But he isn't intl quality and the pace is totally unacceptable for a strike pace bowler to be bowling with a new cherry at 120kph.

This is intl test cricket not Sunday league amateur club cricket
 
Yes he bowled OK at times

But he isn't intl quality and the pace is totally unacceptable for a strike pace bowler to be bowling with a new cherry at 120kph.

This is intl test cricket not Sunday league amateur club cricket

Hamza bowls with discipline around medium pace. He can bowl long spells. He can swing both ways. More importantly he is a left armer. I agree he doesn't have any striking qualities but considering the fact that Pakistan don't have many red ball options, he could be a decent 3rd seamer in a 5 man bowling attack.

Needs to be given a few more games before we make a final call on him.
 
Feel bad for him - worked hard and then Pakistan did not appeal for a catch behind!

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He is a bowler, if no one appeals, he must.

What kind of loser mindset has been instilled in this new generation. I don’t care if some English or Aussie commentator calls us out for over appealing. Just appeal. Who cares
 
Looks a far better bowler than Naseem. Much better control which is not surprising when he has over 90 FC matches under his belt.

He should be persisted with. Need to reward seasoned FC players & instead of overhyped T20 jokers.

How is he any different than Abbas? Both similar type and pace.

I do agree that he needs to be given more chances.

On a lively pitch he could come in handy.
 
He may bowl well in England and West Indies but that is about it. There is no point persisting with this trundler
 
How is he any different than Abbas? Both similar type and pace.

I do agree that he needs to be given more chances.

On a lively pitch he could come in handy.
Hamza is taller and is a left armer. That gives him the edge above Abbass.
 
I swear this guy is even slower than Abbas. We might as well have played Abbas instead, as he is better.
 
I got it what you did there ��

No I am serious - see the replay - he is looking at his gloves and happy to see the ball there - doesnt look up immediately as a good keeper confident of his abilities would do and start appealing
 
May not have had tons of wickets but Mir Hamza has done exceedingly well to help in this game - well done to him for holding his nerve.
 
Excellent work from Mir Hamza - done well in this odd run chase by NZ
 
Shows how far our fast bowling has declined when bowlers like this are deemed saviours and heroes .
 
Faster bowler Wasim did not uproot any trunks, atleast he bowls in good channels keeping things tight. A more supportive wicket will account for wickets too. Even NZ bowlers who aremuch more experienced were not much threat here.
 
Shows how far our fast bowling has declined when bowlers like this are deemed saviours and heroes .

No one is calling him a saviour but what is the issue in praising one of ours?
 
Good to see the management persist with Mir Hamza for the 2nd test. Players need to be backed for a few series before being discarded.
 
A long day for Hamza to no avail - 0/50 from his 13 overs. Just never looked that threatening.
 
He looks a good honest trier but at this level, and in these conditions, he isn't an international player. So tomorrow he will pick up 3 wickets
 
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