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"I plan to represent Australia in the World Twenty20 in 2020" : Usman Qadir

Rana said:
His real test will come against NZ

Just like any youngster/debutant who has done well in this series will be exposed against NZ.
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I never said he will be exposed. I said he will be tested against New Zealand. Do you think New Zealand is not a testing opponent? Furthermore show me where I said I want him to fail. Please show me where I said I want him to fail.

Stop making things up. I know you don't like me but don't make things up please.
 
Good loop and flight today, was able to test batsmen on outside as well as inside edge of the bat.
 
Hasan123 said:
I didn't expect this performance.
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I did state on numerous thread that qadir is a good bowler and he should start ahead of gohar but people were like no hes mediocre and only picked on personal friendship
 
world cup captain said:
He will be tonked by better opposition similar to Bilawal Bhatti. Zimbabwe players are unable to pick him but that will not be the case with other teams like NZ. He will be humiliated in NZ.
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We will see when the time hes going to take wickets just need to work on his control
 
shariqnoor said:
I would take Usman Qadir 100 out of 100 times over Shadab. Atleast the guy can spin the ball and has relatively decent control over his googly.

Persisting with Shadab will be one of the worst decisions. But by giving him the VC arm band, I'm afraid the bad decision has already been made.

Not that Pakistan is winning the world cup, but if they go ahead with Shadab and Imad as the two spinners for the t20 world cup, they won't even make out of the group stage.
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Dont get me wrong i would prefer qadir over gohar any day of the week in t20s but not over shadab no chance
 
Ahson8 said:
Shadab and Qadir can both fit in the same XI if the management is willing to play Shadab in the Top 4.
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I would stil have shadab and imad in the team as imad can is more than handy with the bat but its good to see qadir performing even thou alot of people stated he isnt good enoughb
 
Do people stil think hes mediocre hes a good bowler but shadab and imad should be the first choice .I hope qadir is given more chances to perform.
 
He had an impressive debut overall. His googly and leg spinner both were executed really well and he flights the ball well. However, the amount of times he bowled long hops was concerning, and this is something he will have to address if he wants a future in the team.
 
So what does he want from Pakistan after getting a humiliating reality-check by Australia?

Does he want us to forget the stunt he tried to pull off but blew in his face?
 
Mamoon said:
So what does he want from Pakistan after getting a humiliating reality-check by Australia?

Does he want us to forget the stunt he tried to pull off but blew in his face?
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This!

There should be a policy on the doors being permanently closed for anyone who tries to blackmail their way into the team. His dad tried every trick in the book back in the day to get him into Pakistan XI & when the lad's mediocrity was overwhelming he pulled this 'I'll go and play for Australia' stunt.

Let's be completely honest here, the only reason he's in the team is because he's Babar's childhood friend and a distant relative. He's not even the best T20 leg spinner in the country and stat of stat Zahid trumps him and then some more.
 
For years, he was crying that he is not getting a fair shot in Pakistan because he is his father’s son (which makes no sense at all). The truth is that considering his connections in PCB, if he was any good, he would have been a regular for Pakistan for 6-7 years now.

But this guy thought he was the second coming of his father and went to Australia where he found out that Zampa is thousand times better than him, so now he has come back to Pakistan crying.

I agree that he was picked because he probably begged Babar or something or maybe did some emotional blackmailing because his father passed away last year.

Getting smashed by a top side out of international cricket is what he deserves and I am sure it will happen in due time. Would love to see him bowl to Indian or English batsmen so that he remembers why Australia sent him back to Pakistan crying.
 
Mamoon said:
For years, he was crying that he is not getting a fair shot in Pakistan because he is his father’s son (which makes no sense at all). The truth is that considering his connections in PCB, if he was any good, he would have been a regular for Pakistan for 6-7 years now.

But this guy thought he was the second coming of his father and went to Australia where he found out that Zampa is thousand times better than him, so now he has come back to Pakistan crying.

I agree that he was picked because he probably begged Babar or something or maybe did some emotional blackmailing because his father passed away last year.

Getting smashed by a top side out of international cricket is what he deserves and I am sure it will happen in due time. Would love to see him bowl to Indian or English batsmen so that he remembers why Australia sent him back to Pakistan crying.
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:yk man so much venom, easy.
 
shamaan said:
I would stil have shadab and imad in the team as imad can is more than handy with the bat but its good to see qadir performing even thou alot of people stated he isnt good enoughb
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You can play all 3 if Shadab bats at 4. Wahab at 8 and Qadir at 9 means the batting will still have good depth, maybe something like this

Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Shadab
Khushdil
Aggressive WK ( Azam ?)
Imad
Wahab
Qadir
Shaheen
Rauf / Amir
 
Babar
Haider
Abdullah
Hafeez
Azam Khan
Danish/ Khushdil
Imad
Qadir / Shadab
Shaheen
Rauf
Wahab


I know Babar and Haider play at a similar SR but the inclusion of Azam Khan and everyone after no.4 is a hitter
 
Surely there should be a policy that someone who pulls stunts like this (tried to play for another country) should join the back of the queue on return not fasttracked into the team

What kind of message are you sending out to the likes of gohar slogging it out in pakistan domestics patiently waiting his chance when someone who wanted to play for australia leaps overhim straight into the team
 
He is alright but he bowls way too many googlies he will find it difficult against top teams although he does look better than Shadab
 
Mamoon said:
For years, he was crying that he is not getting a fair shot in Pakistan because he is his father’s son (which makes no sense at all). The truth is that considering his connections in PCB, if he was any good, he would have been a regular for Pakistan for 6-7 years now.

But this guy thought he was the second coming of his father and went to Australia where he found out that Zampa is thousand times better than him, so now he has come back to Pakistan crying.

I agree that he was picked because he probably begged Babar or something or maybe did some emotional blackmailing because his father passed away last year.

Getting smashed by a top side out of international cricket is what he deserves and I am sure it will happen in due time. Would love to see him bowl to Indian or English batsmen so that he remembers why Australia sent him back to Pakistan crying.
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Says the guy who has no issues with Jofra Archer deserting his country to play for England.

Mr Double Standards...uno...dos...tres...quotro
 
If Usman Qadir did well and played for Australia as a frontline spinner with lots of wickets and IPL opportunity, the same poster would be like:
“PCB could not handle a talent like him. They deserve this humiliation. Only Australia could handle his quality and he is right where he should be.”
 
Rana said:
Says the guy who has no issues with Jofra Archer deserting his country to play for England.

Mr Double Standards...uno...dos...tres...quotro
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There is no hypocrisy. Just the usual ignorance and false equivalence on your part.

Archer, in spite of being a remarkable talent, did not get a fair shot in Barbados and was neglected by WICB for the U-19 World Cup in 2014.

But he went to Sussex and proved himself to be a top bowler. 5 years on, he helped his adopted country win the World Cup and now he is one of the top bowlers in the world.

For the same reasons, I have no problem with Imran Tahir. He didn’t get his chance in Pakistan and went to South Africa without looking back. He proved himself to be one of the best white ball spinners in the last 15-20 years.

On the other hand, this guy is delusional and overestimated his capabilities. He thought he is as good as his father and felt entitled to play international cricket.

He had the gall to claim that he was not getting chances because he is Abdul Qadir’s son, a claim which is ridiculous that I don’t even need to explain why.

He talked about representing Australia when he is not even good enough to play international cricket, let alone play for one of the elite sides in the world.

Had he proved to be good enough for Australia and made a mark in international cricket, I would have had nothing but respect for him.

But this guy was given a brutal reality-check by Australia and he came back home with his head hanging in shame, and now he wants to play for Pakistan as if nothing happened.

Australia showed him his aukaat so what does he want from Pakistan now?
 
Rana said:
If Usman Qadir did well and played for Australia as a frontline spinner with lots of wickets and IPL opportunity, the same poster would be like:
“PCB could not handle a talent like him. They deserve this humiliation. Only Australia could handle his quality and he is right where he should be.”
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If Pakistan was a top team I wouldn’t have been so critical. Do you realize how ridiculous your post is?

If Usman Qadir was actually good, and he proved himself in Australia and made a mark in international cricket, I would have criticized PCB for letting a top talent like him slip through.

But his humiliation in Australia proves that PCB and the domestic sides were right in not giving him opportunities because he is clearly not good enough.

I feel he was also wronged by his father. Abdul Qadir was blinded by love for his son and wasn’t honest with him.

Deep down, he must have known that his son has inherited none of his talent and should have told him that he has no chance of breaking through the Australian team.

It is important to support your children but it is equally important to be honest with them.
 
Not sure how much he's improved under pressure since BBL, haven't really followed him enough. Though i do think his performance will be well scrutinised and name might end up haunting him.
 
It’s risky to judge spinners from T20, that too leg spinners and against ZIM, who hardly plays any wrist spin in domestics. Usman’s FC record is abysmal and he is no spring chicken either. I think, PCT is desperate to find a back-up Leggi as Shadab didn’t develop his leg spin to the level that he can replace an ageing Yasir, but I don’t think investing on Usman is a good idea. He is never going to replace Shadab in LO, while just not good enough for Test. They should look for a different prospect for leg-spin; Usman is probably on Babar’s quota - this time Shadab was injured, so it made sense, but don’t see any long term future, unless they plan to field two loose cannon Leggi in playing XI.
 
Personally not a fan of Qadir, I don't think he's the best available Leg Spinner for Pakistan. I feel like Zahid Mehmood and Mohammad Mohsin are probably more superior. Despite my opinions of Qadir, I like the variation he has, Googly, Leg Spin, Top spinner and Flipper. But his lack of control and ability to bowl long hops make me think he is more on the level of Yasir Shah who doesn't get much turn.
 
Ahson8 said:
You can play all 3 if Shadab bats at 4. Wahab at 8 and Qadir at 9 means the batting will still have good depth, maybe something like this

Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Shadab
Khushdil
Aggressive WK ( Azam ?)
Imad
Wahab
Qadir
Shaheen
Rauf / Amir
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I dont see shadab batting In top four I stil see him batting 7 or 8.

I also want hafeez playing at number 4 hes had success at 4.

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babar
abdullah
haider
Hafeez
Khushdil
Azam khan (must improve fitness and keeping)
Shadab
Imad
Wahab/husnain
Rauf
Shaheen

I would have azam Khan,rohail,zeeshan ashraf ,mo haris anyone baring rizwan as wicket keeper
 
zain7077 said:
Babar
Haider
Abdullah
Hafeez
Azam Khan
Danish/ Khushdil
Imad
Qadir / Shadab
Shaheen
Rauf
Wahab


I know Babar and Haider play at a similar SR but the inclusion of Azam Khan and everyone after no.4 is a hitter
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Babar and haider play at similar strike rate ??
 
Zaz said:
Surely there should be a policy that someone who pulls stunts like this (tried to play for another country) should join the back of the queue on return not fasttracked into the team

What kind of message are you sending out to the likes of gohar slogging it out in pakistan domestics patiently waiting his chance when someone who wanted to play for australia leaps overhim straight into the team
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Gohar should be 4th choice in t20s but he stil should be given a chance to perform and should start in tests.
 
Zaz said:
4th choice, u mean behind qadir? Why
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Well let me correct this if I had a choice between all four it would be shadab imad qadir then gohar prefer a leg spinners than two left arm aurthodox

But if shadab is fit and imad is injured I would go gohar.if imad is fit and shadab is injuired I would go qadir.

Makes sense?
 
shamaan said:
I did state on numerous thread that qadir is a good bowler and he should start ahead of gohar but people were like no hes mediocre and only picked on personal friendship
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I didn't think he was all that but yesterday he showed something. I would like to see how he does against better opposition before getting too excited.
 
Hasan123 said:
I didn't think he was all that but yesterday he showed something. I would like to see how he does against better opposition before getting too excited.
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His got alot of variations and to be able to bowl them you have to have confidence which he has.but shadab and imad are our first choices if we win a series they qadir and gohar can be given a chance or against lesser oppositions
 
Mamoon said:
If Pakistan was a top team I wouldn’t have been so critical. Do you realize how ridiculous your post is?

If Usman Qadir was actually good, and he proved himself in Australia and made a mark in international cricket, I would have criticized PCB for letting a top talent like him slip through.

But his humiliation in Australia proves that PCB and the domestic sides were right in not giving him opportunities because he is clearly not good enough.

I feel he was also wronged by his father. Abdul Qadir was blinded by love for his son and wasn’t honest with him.

Deep down, he must have known that his son has inherited none of his talent and should have told him that he has no chance of breaking through the Australian team.

It is important to support your children but it is equally important to be honest with them.
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So you are ok with players deserting their countries to play for another country as long as they are good?

Keep your toxic views to yourself. Since when did you become a custodian of who plays and who shouldn't play for Pakistan? Do what you do best and that is hype up the English who have snatched a player from every country in the world.

He is a son of Pakistan, and even if he has deviated away, he is right back home and here to stay. Jo karna hai kar lo, jitna rona hai ro lo. Rok sake tou rok lo.
 
Rana said:
So you are ok with players deserting their countries to play for another country as long as they are good?

Keep your toxic views to yourself. Since when did you become a custodian of who plays and who shouldn't play for Pakistan? Do what you do best and that is hype up the English who have snatched a player from every country in the world.

He is a son of Pakistan, and even if he has deviated away, he is right back home and here to stay. Jo karna hai kar lo, jitna rona hai ro lo. Rok sake tou rok lo.
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Yeah you heard me right. I have no issues with anyone playing for another country if his home country is not giving him opportunities.

The only qualifier of course is that you need to be good enough and justify that your home country was wrong in not giving you a chance.

The likes of Pietersen, Tahir, Archer etc. proved their respective countries wrong. However, Mr. Delusional’s flop experiment Down Under only reinforced the fact that Pakistani selectors were right to ignore him.

I don’t have to do anything. Wait till he bowls to some top batsmen and he will remember why he got snubbed by Australia. For now he can enjoy his moment in the sun against a minnow lineup thanks to his bestie Babar.
 
Mamoon said:
Yeah you heard me right. I have no issues with anyone playing for another country if his home country is not giving him opportunities.

The only qualifier of course is that you need to be good enough and justify that your home country was wrong in not giving you a chance.

The likes of Pietersen, Tahir, Archer etc. proved their respective countries wrong. However, Mr. Delusional’s flop experiment Down Under only reinforced the fact that Pakistani selectors were right to ignore him.

I don’t have to do anything. Wait till he bowls to some top batsmen and he will remember why he got snubbed by Australia. For now he can enjoy his moment in the sun against a minnow lineup thanks to his bestie Babar.
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Right. So he felt that he was good enough and wasnt getting the chances he deserved, hence he went to Australia. The same thing happened there and he went back to Pakistan, he had a bit of luck as his mate was the captain who gave him the chance he so desperately desired....and he showed that he was right all along, he is a very good leg spinner with a world class googly.

Now you are desperate for him to fail, i bet you are counting on the New Zealand batters to end his career.
 
Rana said:
Right. So he felt that he was good enough and wasnt getting the chances he deserved, hence he went to Australia. The same thing happened there and he went back to Pakistan, he had a bit of luck as his mate was the captain who gave him the chance he so desperately desired....and he showed that he was right all along, he is a very good leg spinner with a world class googly.

Now you are desperate for him to fail, i bet you are counting on the New Zealand batters to end his career.
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And he was wrong to feel that. If he was good enough he would have proved it in Australia.

Too bad Australia weren’t impressed with his “world class googly”.

I don’t have to be desperate for him to fail. A nothing cricketer like him is bound to fail against the major sides.
 
Mamoon said:
And he was wrong to feel that. If he was good enough he would have proved it in Australia.

Too bad Australia weren’t impressed with his “world class googly”.

I don’t have to be desperate for him to fail. A nothing cricketer like him is bound to fail against the major sides.
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What you will say about the injustice given to Zafar Gohar and Usman getting special treatment?
 
Got man of the series in T20s against Zim. Needs to keep working hard on his game to continue auch performances against stronger opponents.
 
Usman must work hard on his fitness and should control his "hit me" lengths.

Strong team will be merciless against him.
 
Qadir needs to keep working because batsman will find ways to spot his googly. Practice hard on consistency and just a little more pace and he could become a decent bowler. Bigger tests await.
 
Dumb move by usman Qadir.

Just because he toom wickets against zimbabwe doesnt mean he has proved himself. The guys domestic stats are there for everyone to see. He only played cause he is friends with babar azam.

Shadab khan and zafar gohar had to sit out to accomodate him.

He had a better chance in playing for australia as they even gave fawad ahmed chance. Now by makng his debut he eill play nz not perform get dropped and than later after some years he will talk about how he made the bad decision to play for pakistan blablabla.
 
Major said:
Dumb move by usman Qadir.

Just because he toom wickets against zimbabwe doesnt mean he has proved himself. The guys domestic stats are there for everyone to see. He only played cause he is friends with babar azam.

Shadab khan and zafar gohar had to sit out to accomodate him.

He had a better chance in playing for australia as they even gave fawad ahmed chance. Now by makng his debut he eill play nz not perform get dropped and than later after some years he will talk about how he made the bad decision to play for pakistan blablabla.
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He wont start against New Zealand shadab and imad will start but if shadab gets injuired qadir can come in
 
Some people on here are stupid or either am stupid

When shadab and imad are fit they will be first choice qadir will be a replacement for shadab if injuired
 
shamaan said:
Some people on here are stupid or either am stupid

When shadab and imad are fit they will be first choice qadir will be a replacement for shadab if injuired
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You can play all 3 also depending on the pitch. Zafar is a better option for Tests & ODIs but Qadir is the better T20 player. Most teams prefer legspinners for this format, because they're aggressive wicket taking options.
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] 's post is ridiculous because Australia already have Zampa and also Lloyd Pope on the sidelines, so no, he was not going to have a better career with Australia.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is also wrong because he expected Australia to pick him straight away and because he wasn't, he "wasn't good enough". That's not how it works. Qadir has good skills, and just because Australia didn't pick him doesnt mean he is trash.
 
Ahson8 said:
You can play all 3 also depending on the pitch. Zafar is a better option for Tests & ODIs but Qadir is the better T20 player. Most teams prefer legspinners for this format, because they're aggressive wicket taking options.

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] 's post is ridiculous because Australia already have Zampa and also Lloyd Pope on the sidelines, so no, he was not going to have a better career with Australia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is also wrong because he expected Australia to pick him straight away and because he wasn't, he "wasn't good enough". That's not how it works. Qadir has good skills, and just because Australia didn't pick him doesnt mean he is trash.
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Yes but majority of the team you play 2 spinners and 1 part time who can bowl 2 overs here and thier.i agree gohar is better suited to tests definitely.exactly leg spinners are attacking and wicket taking options.i dont even look into [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] statetemans to be honest waste of time.
 
Ahson8 said:
You can play all 3 also depending on the pitch. Zafar is a better option for Tests & ODIs but Qadir is the better T20 player. Most teams prefer legspinners for this format, because they're aggressive wicket taking options.

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] 's post is ridiculous because Australia already have Zampa and also Lloyd Pope on the sidelines, so no, he was not going to have a better career with Australia.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is also wrong because he expected Australia to pick him straight away and because he wasn't, he "wasn't good enough". That's not how it works. Qadir has good skills, and just because Australia didn't pick him doesnt mean he is trash.
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If Australia saw potential in him they would have kept him, especially when they do not have many upcoming leg-spinners.

The reason why he made the embarrassing flight back from Australia to Lahore was because it was communicated to him in clear terms that he does not have any chance of playing for Australia.

He burnt his bridges in Pakistan, made it explicitly clear that he is done with Pakistan cricket which is infested with politics and doesn’t give fair chances to players who come from cricketing families (I am still laughing at this statement).

He was then shocked when he landed in Australia and they didn’t treat him like the second coming of Shane Warne.

Now he is back with eggs on his face simply because he was out of touch with reality and overestimated his skills.

If he didn’t suffer from delusions of grandeur, he would have gone to Australia quietly without publicly denouncing and criticizing Pakistan cricket and stating his ambitions of playing for Australia by 2020.

If he was quiet about it, he wouldn’t have attracted negative attention and he wouldn’t be criticized today after his plan blew in his face.

If things worked out for him in Australia, good for him. If they didn’t, he would have come back to Pakistan quietly.
 
If he is good enough he will show against other teams.i would take his performance against Zimbabwe with pinch of salt but he does look better than Shadab it isn't saying much though due to the fact that shadab is very poor spinner.He needs to perform against top sides
 
choudhary6964 said:
If he is good enough he will show against other teams.i would take his performance against Zimbabwe with pinch of salt but he does look better than Shadab it isn't saying much though due to the fact that shadab is very poor spinner.He needs to perform against top sides
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21 against Australia 23 against england 17 against New Zealand shadab is poor ain't he
 
Zimbabwe batsmen have had next to no exposure to decent quality leg spin. You'd have seen the same outcome if Shadab or even Yasir Shah bowled in the t20's.

Usman deserves his shot against a big side on that performance, but i don't think it's going to be pretty.
 
Mamoon said:
There is no hypocrisy. Just the usual ignorance and false equivalence on your part.

Archer, in spite of being a remarkable talent, did not get a fair shot in Barbados and was neglected by WICB for the U-19 World Cup in 2014.

But he went to Sussex and proved himself to be a top bowler. 5 years on, he helped his adopted country win the World Cup and now he is one of the top bowlers in the world.

For the same reasons, I have no problem with Imran Tahir. He didn’t get his chance in Pakistan and went to South Africa without looking back. He proved himself to be one of the best white ball spinners in the last 15-20 years.

On the other hand, this guy is delusional and overestimated his capabilities. He thought he is as good as his father and felt entitled to play international cricket.

He had the gall to claim that he was not getting chances because he is Abdul Qadir’s son, a claim which is ridiculous that I don’t even need to explain why.

He talked about representing Australia when he is not even good enough to play international cricket, let alone play for one of the elite sides in the world.

Had he proved to be good enough for Australia and made a mark in international cricket, I would have had nothing but respect for him.

But this guy was given a brutal reality-check by Australia and he came back home with his head hanging in shame, and now he wants to play for Pakistan as if nothing happened.

Australia showed him his aukaat so what does he want from Pakistan now?
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I disagree with what seems to be a premise in your reasoning. If you're good enough like Archer you get a pass, but if you're apparently not talented enough you don't?

Everyone has the right to to all they can fairly to be all they can be.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
I disagree with what seems to be a premise in your reasoning. If you're good enough like Archer you get a pass, but if you're apparently not talented enough you don't?

Everyone has the right to to all they can fairly to be all they can be.
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The problem is the following:

(1) he publicly denounced Pakistan cricket before leaving for Australia. He explicitly stated that he is done with Pakistan cricket which is infested with politics.

(2) he publicly signaled his intentions to play for Australia by 2020 almost immediately after landing in Australia.

If he didn’t overestimate his talent, he wouldn’t have publicized his misadventure. He should have moved to Australia quietly and he wouldn’t have been criticized.

I don’t see to find any articles where Archer publicly criticized WICB before leaving for the UK and I don’t seem to find any articles where Tahir publicly criticized PCB before leaving for South Africa.

But this guy ran his mouth and now he is back with egg on his face. At least he should have had the decency to offer a public apology for his previous statements.
 
And.....as expected being Man Of the Match and Man Of The Series in his last(and only his Twenty20 series so far), is axed for half-fit-vice-captain-future-of-the-team Shadab Khan for 1st Twenty20 against NZ.

May be he should have gone on with his decision to represent Australia instead of Pakistan.
Feel really sorry for him.
 
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Sohaib said:
And.....as expected being Man Of the Match and Man Of The Series in his last(and only his Twenty20 series so far), is axed for half-fit-vice-captain-future-of-the-team Shadab Khan for 1st Twenty20 against NZ.

May be he should have gone on with his decision to represent Australia instead of Pakistan.
Feel really sorry for him.
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He's lucky to be playing domestic cricket in Pakistan let alone play for Pakistan. He sounds and looks like Agustus Gloop, a privileged child who "plans to represent Australia". He got a reality check in Australia and came back running to Pakistan where he can play a bit due to his father's stature.

His man of the match and series awards were against Zimbabwe. Enough said.
 
Sohaib said:
And.....as expected being Man Of the Match and Man Of The Series in his last(and only his Twenty20 series so far), is axed for half-fit-vice-captain-future-of-the-team Shadab Khan for 1st Twenty20 against NZ.

May be he should have gone on with his decision to represent Australia instead of Pakistan.
Feel really sorry for him.
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His man of the match was against Zimbabwe hes not better than shadab in any department
 
shamaan said:
His man of the match was against Zimbabwe hes not better than shadab in any department
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world cup captain said:
He's lucky to be playing domestic cricket in Pakistan let alone play for Pakistan. He sounds and looks like Agustus Gloop, a privileged child who "plans to represent Australia". He got a reality check in Australia and came back running to Pakistan where he can play a bit due to his father's stature.

His man of the match and series awards were against Zimbabwe. Enough said.
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Against Zimbabwe or not. He performed and won MoM and MoS awards. Where was Shadab during that time? Oh right, wasn't even fit enough to play.

And that same Zimbabwe had actually beat Pakistan in one of the ODIs mind you.

Doesn't deserve to be dropped after performing to make place for the player, who even can't even figure out if he's a bowler or a batsman let alone being the vice-captain.
 
Sohaib said:
May be he should have gone on with his decision to represent Australia instead of Pakistan.
Feel really sorry for him.
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Lmaoo you’re making it abound he voluntarily decided not to represent australia :))

It wasn’t his decision because he never got picked and wasn’t considered to be at the required level. He tried on his part but just not good enough. Even for Pakistan he got picked despite no real performance to warrant a selection. But being Babar’s bestie and having your legendary father pass away helped in thr timing.
 
Slog said:
Lmaoo you’re making it abound he voluntarily decided not to represent australia :))
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Who's not say he wouldn't have been picked by Australia? He seems better than Fawad Ahmed from whatever little we have seen of him.

Whether because of his late father, or his best friend, he never deserved to be dropped after performing and if he never gets to play again or gets many chances, then he would have better opted to (hope to) represent Australia and that's point I'm making.
 
Sohaib said:
Against Zimbabwe or not. He performed and won MoM and MoS awards. Where was Shadab during that time? Oh right, wasn't even fit enough to play.

And that same Zimbabwe had actually beat Pakistan in one of the ODIs mind you.

Doesn't deserve to be dropped after performing to make place for the player, who even can't even figure out if he's a bowler or a batsman let alone being the vice-captain.
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Seriously? You're counting Shadab's injury against him as if he is immortal? Even the greatest athletes get injured.

Secondly, I'm not against giving Usman giving a chance since he performed against Zimbabwe but it is ridiculous to make much of that performance. If he can replicate that against top-tier teams then he can be respected, otherwise, to me he was unworthy of the opportunity.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A baby girl one of the most beautiful miracles in life, one of the grtest joy I can ever know, and of the reason why there is a little extra, laughter and happiness in my day world today. Alhumdulilah❤️ Blessed with a daughter Remember me and my family in yr prayers <a href="https://twitter.com/_sobia_khan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_sobia_khan</a> <a href="https://t.co/pKNVWbPGGh">pic.twitter.com/pKNVWbPGGh</a></p>— Usman Qadir (@Qadircricketer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Qadircricketer/status/1345459308662648832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A baby girl one of the most beautiful miracles in life, one of the grtest joy I can ever know, and of the reason why there is a little extra, laughter and happiness in my day world today. Alhumdulilah❤️ Blessed with a daughter Remember me and my family in yr prayers <a href="https://twitter.com/_sobia_khan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_sobia_khan</a> <a href="https://t.co/pKNVWbPGGh">pic.twitter.com/pKNVWbPGGh</a></p>— Usman Qadir (@Qadircricketer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Qadircricketer/status/1345459308662648832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Congratulations. ماشاءاللہ
 
Sohaib said:
Who's not say he wouldn't have been picked by Australia? He seems better than Fawad Ahmed from whatever little we have seen of him.

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Lol. He wasn’t being picked by Aussie state teams. Can’t break into domestic sides and you’re thinking he would break into international
 
So his wife gave birth to his daughter in Pakistan and he is playing useless T20 games in NZL ?
 
moghul said:
So his wife gave birth to his daughter in Pakistan and he is playing useless T20 games in NZL ?
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With Shadab injured, he had a big chance of playing the T20Is before Shadab recovered. In fact, Shaddy never did recover and played with an injury.

This tour is Qadir’s most important, and his good performances now in the A games at least give him consolation that the tour wasn’t a complete waste.

Shadab is out for another six weeks, so Qadir might get to play in the T20Is against South Africa off of these A team performances.
 
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Only in Pakistan, in rest of the world , its unthinkable for husband not to be with his wife at the birth of their child, unbelievable.
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This is his job. He's not even centrally contracted. Can't just leave his job because his wife wants him too.
 
In civilized world where people give more respect to their women , i player would leave even final of a World Cup to be with his wife at this occasion. FGS , your wife is giving birth to your child , what can be more important to you .
 
moghul said:
Only in Pakistan, in rest of the world , its unthinkable for husband not to be with his wife at the birth of their child, unbelievable.
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Its Usman and his wife personal matter. It their decision at the end
 
Westerners take the attendance of the birth of the first child more seriously but desis are okay with giving these things a miss.
 
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