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"I want to put in some consistent performances for Pakistan" : Saud Shakeel [VIDEO #243]

Saud Shakeel v Haseeb Hameed

whose better>
 
Ellipsism said:
Premature camparison, Haseeb Hameed is a proven performer while Saud Shakeel's hyping has all been on the base of potential.
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Not saying you're wrong about Saud, but...

How is Haseeb Hameed a proven performer?

Haseeb: 19 FC matches @ 50
Saud: 11 FC matches @ 55 + 17 List A matches @ 40
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Should Be sent at Number 5 in Next match or number 4 if Akbar can move to number 5.


After Haris's yet another Fitness Blow Saud becomes Most Imp Left Hand Middle Order Batsman in Pakistan. Needs to get Maximum number of Overs in Fc & List A cricket and also valuable overs in televised matches of any format.


Hope He doesn't play for Khi or PIA in next Fc Season.
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talent bhai, do you have any videos of saud batting ? I have never seen him bat......
 
kingusama92 said:
Not saying you're wrong about Saud, but...

How is Haseeb Hameed a proven performer?

Haseeb: 19 FC matches @ 50
Saud: 11 FC matches @ 55 + 17 List A matches @ 40
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Saud's average has been boosted by the amount of not outs. The quality of cricket is also a major factor.
 
Needs to pile on the runs to get a call up.

He has been selected again by Inzi for the Zim tour despite failing badly in the Eng tour, because Inzi sees some potential in him and is waiting for him to actually turn that potential into runs on the scoreboard.

So far he hasn't done himself any favours.


You might be the most stylish batsmen in the side but if you are only are good for 20-30 runs then you won't go very far.
 
The lad is only 20 but has immense promise. Need to keep developing him by giving him consistent chances in A series and a good spot in a domestic side. He's one good season away from breaking through in to the national team.
 
Syed1 said:
Needs to pile on the runs to get a call up.

He has been selected again by Inzi for the Zim tour despite failing badly in the Eng tour, because Inzi sees some potential in him and is waiting for him to actually turn that potential into runs on the scoreboard.

So far he hasn't done himself any favours.


You might be the most stylish batsmen in the side but if you are only are good for 20-30 runs then you won't go very far.
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He played 1 fc match against srilanka where he scored 87 and 50 plus not out if you call that failing badly then you criteria must be 200 plus Ave bat. Plus got run out in the last match he got to bat and played 2 or 3 list a matches in England tour where he batted 5 and 6.
 
Khan12 said:
He played 1 fc match against srilanka where he scored 87 and 50 plus not out if you call that failing badly then you criteria must be 200 plus Ave bat. Plus got run out in the last match he got to bat and played 2 or 3 list a matches in England tour where he batted 5 and 6.
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What do you have to say about today's innings?


Saud Shakeel is another product of the PP hype machine. I'd be the first one to congratulate him if he does well, but till that time he is nothing but hype.
 
Syed1 said:
What do you have to say about today's innings?


Saud Shakeel is another product of the PP hype machine. I'd be the first one to congratulate him if he does well, but till that time he is nothing but hype.
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Has a list A Strike Rate of 75 :facepalm: and then the same guys bash likes of Hafeez
 
Syed1 said:
What do you have to say about today's innings?


Saud Shakeel is another product of the PP hype machine. I'd be the first one to congratulate him if he does well, but till that time he is nothing but hype.
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Technically he is very good, I can see him succeeding in Tests but in ODI's he should either be batting in the Top 3 or sitting on the bench.
 
Lmao, what's wrong with people here? Let the kid play. Nobody's asking for him to be included in the international side, everyone knows he's not ready. People are simply following his development.
 
This hype machine is ridiculous. Saud Shakeel, Ahsan Ali and some bunch of players being hyped up for nothing but few good looking shots they play here and there. But impetus wise these hyped up guys are duds
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Lmao, what's wrong with people here? Let the kid play. Nobody's asking for him to be included in the international side, everyone knows he's not ready. People are simply following his development.
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He's playing at the wrong position.

Another talented kid being mismanaged...
 
Hamzakhalid said:
This hype machine is ridiculous. Saud Shakeel, Ahsan Ali and some bunch of players being hyped up for nothing but few good looking shots they play here and there. But impetus wise these hyped up guys are duds
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Suad shakeel averages 50 plus in fc. And people who have watched him know that he has a lot of potential. I don't know where the hype is coming from no one is calling him next sobers or sangakara. Please give us few names of players who you think are good. Please don't say someone like shehzad.
 
Khan12 said:
Suad shakeel averages 50 plus in fc. And people who have watched him know that he has a lot of potential. I don't know where the hype is coming from no one is calling him next sobers or sangakara. Please give us few names of players who you think are good. Please don't say someone like shehzad.
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I mentioned his sr issues and list A performance only.
 
There is No Alternative to Performance. Syed is right.

I agree that He has not performed well in the 5 List A games he has played for Pakistan. Twice he was playing very fluently. Both times he got out in the thirties at the wrong time, once runout and once a soft dismissal.


But He is a Special Player with Special Skillsets and right attitude on and off the field, is a listener and hardworker.


I agree his today's innings was very poor but it happens with even the best.



Wrt his List A strike rate after such a small sample set people don't get it. It is very very hard for Teenager Batsman to get into Karachi teams. Competition is very tough, there are many players out there who have represented Pakistan, also wrt % age of Population of Big Cities playinh Cricket Karachi is on Top so when kids like Saud & Saad get the oppurtunity they play %age cricket and do not play free flowing cricket and prefer to play cautiously to score consistently in order to be retained in the squad this is why there SR is low.


Saud in his first List A tournament at the age of 18-19 scored 320 runs in 5 matches at an Average of 80 with 1 hundred and 3 fifties.


Than in his first Fc season at the age of 19-20 he Averaged 49 with 3 hundreds and 3 fifties.



Even Haris Sohail, Fawad Alam, Umar Amin, Babar Azam did not have combination of such Debut List A & Fc Seasons.
 

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After a poor tour of Zimbabwe, Saud Shakeel scores 100* against SSGC who boast the likes of Aamir Yamin, Ahmed Jamal, Zia-ul-Haq, and Zafar Gohar.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
After a poor tour of Zimbabwe, Saud Shakeel scores 100* against SSGC who boast the likes of Aamir Yamin, Ahmed Jamal, Zia-ul-Haq, and Zafar Gohar.
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I'm really happy hes back to scoring runs, hopefully he gets selected for the next A tour in both the shorter formats and the longer one(whenever that is) and scores runs plenty of runs. Really hope he does really well for the whole QEA tournament and he needs to be slotted at 3 or 4 in his team.

He also took two wickets so he can bowl decently. One was a set batsman
 
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Saud’s century helps Pakistan CC win

KARACHI: A brilliant unbeaten century by upcoming left-handed batsman Saud Shakil helped Pakistan Cricket Club beat Alamgir Gymkhana and retain KCCA Zone VI ‘A’ Division League Cricket Tournament title at the Lawai Cricket Stadium, Naya Nazimabad on Friday.

Earlier, Usman Khan of Alamgir Gymkhana also scored a dashing 190 with the help of 22 boundaries and 6 sixes off 134 balls but didn’t save his Team. 119 runs with the help of 8 boundaries and 3 sixes off 79 runs

Pakistan Cricket Club captain Adnan Kalim won the toss and asked Alamgir Gymkhana to bat first. They piled up a huge score of 308 for the loss of just two wickets in 40 overs,. Right-handed opener Usman Khan scored a blazing 190 with the help of 22 boundaries and 6 sixes and put on 181-run opening stand with Jaahid Ali (70). Faraz Khan of Pakistan CC got both the wickets to fall for 54 runs.

In reply, Pakistan CC achieved the victory target of 309 for the loss of 4 wickets in 36.2 overs, thanks to a brilliant century by upcoming left hander Saud Shakil who slammed 8 boundaries and 3 sixes in his 119 off just 79 balls. Fazal Subhan (34), Muhammad Waqas (29), Babar Hussain Agha (40) and Noor Wali (44) also batted well to see their side home.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1302934/sauds-century-helps-pakistan-cc-win
 
Had a good performance today in the National OD Cup.
Made 74* off 73 balls with 9 fours vs Islamabad Region.
 
Time to fast track him in to the side. If not him then atleast Saad Ali. If theres no A tours going on then these guys need to be invested in and taken along in the squads at the very least.
 
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Boi said:
Time to fast track him in to the side. If not him then atleast Saad Ali. If theres no A tours going on then these guys need to be invested in and taken along in the squads at the very least.
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Shakil has been far too inconsistent, primarily because "seniors" have been batting him in positions like 7, 8 or 9 :facepalm:

I would give Shakil a bit more time in domestics to build up his game and hopefully now he gets more chances in the correct positions.


Saad Ali is the one who can be fast tracked to the side. He has been in splendid touch since he debuted in List A.
 
Syed1 said:
Shakil has been far too inconsistent, primarily because "seniors" have been batting him in positions like 7, 8 or 9 :facepalm:

I would give Shakil a bit more time in domestics to build up his game and hopefully now he gets more chances in the correct positions.


Saad Ali is the one who can be fast tracked to the side. He has been in splendid touch since he debuted in List A.
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they are not picked by any PSL team i guess.. Saad has avg in the 60+ in 30 games.. he definitely needs to be fast-tracked
 
Just watch first time on Tv while he was playing semifinal for karachi against peshware unfortunately he was

was run out due to khuraam manzoor pathetic running .he looks serious talent with very good batting

technique.i think can be very good for test format
 
saeed5646 said:
Just watch first time on Tv while he was playing semifinal for karachi against peshware unfortunately he was

was run out due to khuraam manzoor pathetic running .he looks serious talent with very good batting

technique.i think can be very good for test format
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He is the next big thing for world cricket. Its a shame that not enough people are talking about him.
 
saeed5646 said:
sarcasm??
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He's a good talent. Madplayer went ott and overhyped a bit too much there though.

He's fluent and a decent strokemaker but we can afford him in the side only if we get rid of other accumulators and draft in some power hitters.

More handy for Tests at the moment.
 
Hawkeye said:
He's a good talent. Madplayer went ott and overhyped a bit too much there though.

He's fluent and a decent strokemaker but we can afford him in the side only if we get rid of other accumulators and draft in some power hitters.

More handy for Tests at the moment.
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Exactly my first impression he should be preferred for test his batting style is similar to bangladesh

Mominul haque
 
Hawkeye said:
He's a good talent. Madplayer went ott and overhyped a bit too much there though.

He's fluent and a decent strokemaker but we can afford him in the side only if we get rid of other accumulators and draft in some power hitters.

More handy for Tests at the moment.
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Yes on second thought i should have said he is the next big thing for Pak cricket rather than world cricket. I genuinely believe he is very good though.
 
He should be in odi squad for West Indies tour. He should get a chance at number 4:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Shahzaib Hassan
3. Babar Azam
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Sarfaraz Ahmed
6. Khalid Latif
7. Zafar Gohar
8. Imad Wasim
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Junaid Khan
 
I think one of saad ali or saud shakeel will make their debut on the windies tour.

I watched Saad Ali yesterday and he seemed a more free flowing batsman compared to Saud but that could also be because Saad came into bat in a relatively easy situation.
 
saeed5646 said:
Just watch first time on Tv while he was playing semifinal for karachi against peshware unfortunately he was

was run out due to khuraam manzoor pathetic running .he looks serious talent with very good batting

technique.i think can be very good for test format
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Khurram manzooe confused the crap out of him while running
 
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saeed5646 said:
god knows but may be insecurity :sanga
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Could be, because jaahid ali an opener batting at no.7 below sohail khan and he was not out in the end with 53(44)... both latif and khurram manzoor made 59 of 100 balls for the first wicket.. selfish seniors deserve to lose
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Could be, because jaahid ali an opener batting at no.7 below sohail khan and he was not out in the end with 53(44)... both latif and khurram manzoor made 59 of 100 balls for the first wicket.. selfish seniors deserve to lose
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also 18 year old hasan khan who looks exciting allrounder batted after the sohail khan and sami which

shows how much these so called "seniors" bully our domestic cricket
 
Seamer said:
He should be in odi squad for West Indies tour. He should get a chance at number 4:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Shahzaib Hassan
3. Babar Azam
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Sarfaraz Ahmed
6. Khalid Latif
7. Zafar Gohar
8. Imad Wasim
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Junaid Khan
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Excellent team. Matches what I was thinking.


But again Theres the problem of no.7. We need someone who can bat and hit hard.

Zafar or Imad can't do that. Umar can be included in place of Khalid or someone else.
 
Two half centuries for him so far in the QeA:

1st round: scored 62 out of a total of 161

2nd round: scored 68 in the 2nd innings to help lead his team to victory

Great to see him starting the season well- this is his year to shine. Two things:

i. Needs to be more consistent and score runs in both innings
ii. Needs to convert his 50s into centuries
 
GullyCricketFlop said:
Have heard good things about this guy.Good to see him performing.
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He is a special talent. Inzi knows this which is why he continued to select him for A tours even though he had a couple of failures.

Needs to make the most of any future A tours so he can start knocking on the door. He will develop beautifully under Arthur's tutelage.
 
mak36 said:
He is a special talent. Inzi knows this which is why he continued to select him for A tours even though he had a couple of failures.

Needs to make the most of any future A tours so he can start knocking on the door. He will develop beautifully under Arthur's tutelage.
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But in domestic t20 and List A tournaments I have seen him bat quite low down the order.His coaches/captains must move him up the order where he is most comfortable.Then he might start scoring more runs.
 
GullyCricketFlop said:
But in domestic t20 and List A tournaments I have seen him bat quite low down the order.His coaches/captains must move him up the order where he is most comfortable.Then he might start scoring more runs.
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Seniority culture reigns supreme unfortunately.

Same story with Saif Badar and many others.
 
Good innings by him in a tight chase under pressure today. A while ago it seemed like he was close to the Pakistan team but think he has dropped down the pecking order a bit recently so a return of form for him will be very important for Shakeel
 
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Among the top 3 left handed batsmen in Pakistan domestic circuit currently. Much much better than Imam ul haq.

You just have to look at him play to see that he has wider range of strokes than most left handers and a higher ceiling than them.
 
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] is he still one of the best young talents in the country?

Because I would have one young middle order bat in the ODI squad in next series ahead of Hafeez. Ofc Haris would be in the playing XI, but the youngster should be backup.
 
Rayyman said:
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] is he still one of the best young talents in the country?

Because I would have one young middle order bat in the ODI squad in next series ahead of Hafeez. Ofc Haris would be in the playing XI, but the youngster should be backup.
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He's more of a test prospect than ODIs at this stage. He's quite a small body, bat speed is not extraordinary either. A true pitch player who relies on timing and plays along the ground, aesthetically pleasing. It's not to say he can't play at a rapid rate but a quick blitz to propel the scoring rate is not something you expect from him due to physical limitations. If Haris and Babar weren't there then he'd have a shot given he made some noise. Not exactly what we need right now. We're already riddled with middle order batsmen, deserving or not. He's been quiet of late though so can't really make a case.
 
mak36 said:
Two half centuries for him so far in the QeA:

1st round: scored 62 out of a total of 161

2nd round: scored 68 in the 2nd innings to help lead his team to victory

Great to see him starting the season well- this is his year to shine. Two things:

i. Needs to be more consistent and score runs in both innings
ii. Needs to convert his 50s into centuries
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Abdullah719 said:
108* in the QEA Trophy today against PTV.
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I mentioned earlier how he needed to convert his 50s into centuries and it's great to see him do that this round.

That makes it 2 50s and 1 century in 7 innings in this year's QeA so far, which is good. Hopefully he can go past his PB of 121 tomorrow.
 
Scored 78 vs Habib Bank in Round 6 and in the process has quietly moved up to 8th leading run scorer in this season’s QeA.

In 11 innings he has now scored 417 runs, with 3 50s and 1 100s. The problem he has though are his single digits scores which have dragged down his season's average to 38. Needs to work on that.
 
Hope he score a century or 2 in the remaining matches. Excellent prospect. So happy that he doesn't play under Faisal Iqbal anymore.
 
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He is very talented but quite careless as well , needs to learn to build his innings well. Hope to see him in greens soon.
 
71 today out of a score of 259 all out in the QEA Trophy.
 
Ideally he should be converting these 70s in to 100s but you can't blame the kid, these pitches are awful. He's doing well to score regardless.
 
He's now the third-highest scorer in the tournament.

Sadly he plays for a weak team so this will most likely be his last match of the season as PTV won't make it to the Super 8s.

Hopefully the selectors realise he needs to be invested in.

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JibranAnsari said:
He is very talented but quite careless as well , needs to learn to build his innings well. Hope to see him in greens soon.
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How can a batsman (anyone from Bradman to Martin) build an innings when he doesn't have the confidence that despite his best efforts & defense, still an unplayable ball might end his innings any time? Playing on such wickets (and such duration of say 256 overs in 4 days) doesn't help developing batsman. Indians play the worst bowling attack in their domestics (top 8-10 Indian blowers hardly play in Ranji, after that what's left is divided probably in 32 teams, so one can imagine), but their batsmen plays 400+ overs FC matches on excellent batting surface, where they can back their technique & ability to bat for even 10-12 hours.

Take his last innings - on those mine fields, he has scored 71 of probably 83 balls with 10 4s and 1 six - this is basically a T20 innings in FC set-up; batsman isn't confident enough, so he went after the bowling for whatever spoils he can take - since he is in very good touch, ball is middling for Saud or Saad. Unfortunately the adverse impact in Umar & Butt - trying to hit out of trouble, resulting in telephone digit score.

Cricket batting isn't hitting one good shot like baseball, rather it's the most perfectionist job - one has to execute repetitive perfection for hours together through his technique, concentration, shot selection, placement, timing and judgement on god/bad ball. These wickets don't give that opportunity or confidence to batsmen. FC matches should be played on wickets where at an average 35-38 wickets fell in about 380-400 overs, for say 1250-1500 runs, otherwise those net sessions and bowling machine practice at NCA for even 12 hours a day won't help much.
 
Abdullah719 said:
He's now the third-highest scorer in the tournament.

Sadly he plays for a weak team so this will most likely be his last match of the season as PTV won't make it to the Super 8s.

Hopefully the selectors realise he needs to be invested in.

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Average isn't much to write home about... Check out the averages of the folks above and below him.
 
Syed1 said:
Average isn't much to write home about... Check out the averages of the folks above and below him.
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Regardless, not many 22-year-olds will be able to put up similar performances while playing for such a weak team on these trash pitches.
 
MMHS said:
How can a batsman (anyone from Bradman to Martin) build an innings when he doesn't have the confidence that despite his best efforts & defense, still an unplayable ball might end his innings any time? Playing on such wickets (and such duration of say 256 overs in 4 days) doesn't help developing batsman. Indians play the worst bowling attack in their domestics (top 8-10 Indian blowers hardly play in Ranji, after that what's left is divided probably in 32 teams, so one can imagine), but their batsmen plays 400+ overs FC matches on excellent batting surface, where they can back their technique & ability to bat for even 10-12 hours.

Take his last innings - on those mine fields, he has scored 71 of probably 83 balls with 10 4s and 1 six - this is basically a T20 innings in FC set-up; batsman isn't confident enough, so he went after the bowling for whatever spoils he can take - since he is in very good touch, ball is middling for Saud or Saad. Unfortunately the adverse impact in Umar & Butt - trying to hit out of trouble, resulting in telephone digit score.

Cricket batting isn't hitting one good shot like baseball, rather it's the most perfectionist job - one has to execute repetitive perfection for hours together through his technique, concentration, shot selection, placement, timing and judgement on god/bad ball. These wickets don't give that opportunity or confidence to batsmen. FC matches should be played on wickets where at an average 35-38 wickets fell in about 380-400 overs, for say 1250-1500 runs, otherwise those net sessions and bowling machine practice at NCA for even 12 hours a day won't help much.
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I understand this and I am his big fan and i cant wait to see him in greens , i travel around a lot to see our domestic cricket and thats my observation that he has been careless at times.i.e plays across the line way too often.
 
This guy is a special talent.Hope he keeps on succeeding.

Also hope that he is picked in the PSL for the experience that it provides.
 
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