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After his terrible Pakistan Cup, I am sure he won't expect anything now.
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Butt must be looking at Ahmed Shehzad's batting and smiling to himself.
Salman Butt a better Test opener than Shan Masood and Ahmed Shehzad?
Why must being 'better than Shehzad' be used to get TTFs into the team?
Is Butt better than Aslam, Amin etc is what we should be asking.
Salman Butt a better Test opener than Shan Masood and Ahmed Shehzad?
Is he better than Sami Aslam or Mohammad Hafeez? Not even close. Let's try out other more deserving players first. Let's give Shehzad more than 2 tests instead of dropping him immediately after he scored a 50.
A lot of people have this affection for Salman Butt based purely on nostalgia because he was at one point the blue-eyed boy of Pakistan. His test career is there for everyone to see.
On that cue, I'll be expecting something about his 100 against Australia 13 years ago and him winning his first test match as a captain.
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I didn't know Salman Butt was in the squad. If we're only discussing openers in the squad then let's do it on a different thread without mentioning Captain Fantastic.
On what merit is Salman Butt better than Shehzad?
Shehzad averages 10 runs more than Butt in tests. Shehzad has the same number of 100s as Butt in less than half the number of innings. Shehzad scores quicker than Butt. Shehzad scored a 70 odd in the last test.
I'm failing to understand how Salman Butt is more deserving than Shehzad.
May be the only batsman in the world whose ODI average (36.8) is 20% more than his Test average (30.4). One possible explanation is that he is just a slogger.
Babar's LOI average is twice that of his tests
Good day for the Salman Butt haters; out for 1 today. 15 wickets fell in just day 1 so seems like it's a bowlers paradise.
Good catch!
However, Babar's case is probably due to a small sample, he has played only 10 Tests and 31 ODIs. By the time he plays 33 Tests and 78 ODIs like Butt, I expect the averages will be much closer.
His return is pretty much inevitable now thanks to Mickey. Only thing stopping it is a poor run in domestic cricket this season.
The reality based on cricketing reasoning is that Salman Butt despite not having played international cricket for several years is still a better Test batsman than Shan Masood.
Salman Butt will be a much better option than Shan Masood for sure.
That day is coming nearer and nearer, am afraid.
Great news actually. Pakistan needs to play it's best team. He's served his sentence - time to leave the past be the past and move on...
Yes, because those are the only two options. Surprised by your support for Butt.
Yes they do, and he is not part of it.
Saying Salman Butt is currently a better Test batsman than Shan Masood is not supporting Butt or accepting what he did in 2010.
I've said it before and I'll say it again I will take a break from Pakistan Cricket if Butt is ever allowed to don the star and crescent. I know my support in the context of the PCT fanbase is nothing and it won't effect anyone in the slightest, but as a person who values blokes like Azhar, Asad, Misbah, YK (non curropt individuals) I can't stand Butt who was the criminal mastermind of that entire 2010 Saga.
I will never support this ex-convict on a cricket field until my dying breath, and if he ever represents us I will passionately root for the other team. A deplorable human being who should thank his stars that he's allowed to earn his bread and butter via cricket once again.
agreed 1000000%. sadly majority of pakistanis too easily forgive corruption, lies, and deceit. i guess this is the standard our politicians have set for us. this forum gives a good glimpse into that mentality with mr. butt having a decent number of supporters
Yes, in the last two games Salman has scored two crucial half centuries on extremely difficult wickets. This game ending in two days.
It's sheer stupidity that just because some idiots have become moral police, Salman is sitting on the sidelines despite being the best test opener in Pakistan atm.
I've said it before and I'll say it again I will take a break from Pakistan Cricket if Butt is ever allowed to don the star and crescent. I know my support in the context of the PCT fanbase is nothing and it won't effect anyone in the slightest, but as a person who values blokes like Azhar, Asad, Misbah, YK (non curropt individuals) I can't stand Butt who was the criminal mastermind of that entire 2010 Saga.
I will never support this ex-convict on a cricket field until my dying breath, and if he ever represents us I will passionately root for the other team. A deplorable human being who should thank his stars that he's allowed to earn his bread and butter via cricket once again.
agreed 1000000%. sadly majority of pakistanis too easily forgive corruption, lies, and deceit. i guess this is the standard our politicians have set for us. this forum gives a good glimpse into that mentality with mr. butt having a decent number of supporters
Salman Butt is too old now. Sami and Shehzad should open in test matches.
Imam as reserve.
true
but its also like also putting a donkey in a horse race and then saying any random horse would have done better.
The real question is the donkey doing in a horse race in the first place? We know the answer to that.
The frustrating thing is that this a recurring trend in Pak cricket. Undeserving players are picked and their inevitable failings are used to justify the selection of other Underserving players, and so the cycle repeats itself
Well said. This is exactly what I was getting at @Saj.
Every time Shan fails, why not bump Imam's thread, or Fakhar's, or Sahibzada Farhan's, or Jahid Ali's, or Ahsan Ali's etc? Is Butt the only option (that too with a pathetic average)?
As far as I am aware Butt outscored most of the guys you have mentioned in the last domestic season.
And perhaps why some are mentioning Butt is because he scored 62 runs in a match that finished in 2 days.
As far as I am aware Butt outscored most of the guys you have mentioned in the last domestic season.
And perhaps why some are mentioning Butt is because he scored 62 runs in a match that finished in 2 days.