"I was expecting a place in the Pakistan Test squad" : Salman Butt [VIDEO #158]

[mak36]

I wrote earlier that I wouldn't be surprised if the PCB are orchestrating a situation where it looks like Pakistan don't have an opener and so "have" to bring him back. There seems to be increasing merit in this idea. Before anyone starts criticising me just take a look at the post below:

This isn't new.
Just look at the scorecard of this match!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...-Pakistan-Group-D-royal-bank-of-scotland-cup/

"Batting first, the Eagles were bowled out for 122 in 40.3 overs. In the second innings National Bank scored 123 off just 6.1 overs, with Butt making 92 off 25 balls. Sarwar opened the bowling and conceded 78 runs from his three overs and never played another List A or first-class match. National Bank qualified for the semi-finals. The Pakistan Cricket Board investigated the match and said that they found no evidence of foul play."

 

[mak36]

another bitter sami aslam fan sigh

Another blind Salman Butt fan sigh.

See what I did there? Now that's out of the way let's try to be sensible and have a grown up conversation.

Firstly, I don't remember mentioning Sami Aslam.

Secondly, given you have mentioned him I suggest you take a look at their respective records and will be shocked that Sami has a better average and S/R. Then take a look at their respective ages and you will be shocked to learn that Sami is a considerably younger player who despite having played fewer games actually knows where his off stump is.

That's enough for now.

 

[GrandMaster]

Salman Butt is definitely better than other Pakistani openers. Salman Butt & Azhar Ali would make a great opening pair.

 

[Junaids]

Salman Butt is definitely better than other Pakistani openers. Salman Butt & Azhar Ali would make a great opening pair.

I agree, but the issue is that the team mix becomes too old.

A good Test team generally has only 1-2 players in their early thirties. Pakistan already has Azhar, Shafiq, Sarfraz, Wahab and Yasir. Can they afford another?

 

[mak36]

Salman Butt is definitely better than other Pakistani openers. Salman Butt & Azhar Ali would make a great opening pair.

Yes, a man averaging 30 is Pakistan's best opener.

Read my earlier posts in this thread.

 

[GrandMaster]

I agree, but the issue is that the team mix becomes too old.

A good Test team generally has only 1-2 players in their early thirties. Pakistan already has Azhar, Shafiq, Sarfraz, Wahab and Yasir. Can they afford another?

TBH Other teams can't afford that but Pakistan team definitely can. Butt is 33 and should be retained only for Test matches.

 

[backfootpunch]

Another blind Salman Butt fan sigh.

See what I did there? Now that's out of the way let's try to be sensible and have a grown up conversation.

Firstly, I don't remember mentioning Sami Aslam.

Secondly, given you have mentioned him I suggest you take a look at their respective records and will be shocked that Sami has a better average and S/R. Then take a look at their respective ages and you will be shocked to learn that Sami is a considerably younger player who despite having played fewer games actually knows where his off stump is.

That's enough for now.

Except the difference is I'm actually not his fan - the talent pool is so bad in Pak that this crook is the 2nd best opener in Pakistan.

Yes he averaged 30 but in a tougher era where Hafeez was averaging even less and we know how bad he was. Hafeez was actually second string to him and guess how he managed to boost his average? Raking up cheap runs in UAE against even lower calibre bowling than in the mid to late 2000s.

Salman Butt has a SR 50% greater than the inferior Sami Aslam and if you actually analyse technically, the former is superb player of the backfoot and can play pace on non seaming wickets. Sami Aslam on the other hand has no back foot game and hasn't scored a single hundred on such good batting wickets.

Perhaps the best way to attenuate the difference in quality between the 2 is to actually look at their records in Australia. Sami Aslam was a tailender when he went there last year, an absolute joke of an opener! Whereas his senior has 2 x 100s and 2 excellent tours of Australia when they were ranked number 1!

AND...

Before you bring up England stats just remember Salman Butt was facing Anderson at this prime in overcast conditions with an equally devastating Swann bowling at the other end. The batting conditons in England last year were exponentially easier compared to the previous tour.

 

[adil_909]

Then why didn't you stop supporting the team when Amir was selected?

All of what you said is applicable to Amir as well, regardless of the fact that he wasn't the captain and was young. He is still an ex-convict and proof of how "easily pakistanis forgive corruption, lies and deceit". If he was allowed to earn his bread and butter via cricket, why not Butt?

Come on man how many times do people have to answer this question.

Butt was the damn captain of the team. The leader of the squad. He knew what he was doing. Not only did he embarrass the team, he manipulated a talented youngster and took him down with him. If that wasn't enough, he then had the nerve to LIE to the entire nation. Not for days, not for weeks, but for YEARS. Amir apologized straight away. Butt lied for YEARS. You don't see any difference? Remember after this nonsense happened, Butt's father offered to hang himself if Butt was proven guilty. What happened to that? Did Amir lie to his family, or did he ask his family to lie for him? Either way, his behavior during and after the incident was shameful. And no honorable Pakistani should be supporting his return into the team.

Pretending that there is no difference between Butt's situation and Amir's situation is dishonest at best

 

[Junaids]

Come on man how many times do people have to answer this question.

Amir was the damn captain of the team. The leader of the squad. He knew what he was doing. Not only did he embarrass the team, he manipulated a talented youngster and took him down with him. If that wasn't enough, he then had the nerve to LIE to the entire nation. Not for days, not for weeks, but for YEARS. Amir apologized straight away. Butt lied for YEARS. You don't see any difference? Remember after this nonsense happened, Butt's father offered to hang himself if Butt was proven guilty. What happened to that? Did Amir lie to his family, or did he ask his family to lie for him? Either way, his behavior during and after the incident was shameful. And no honorable Pakistani should be supporting his return into the team.

Pretending that there is no difference between Butt's situation and Amir's situation is dishonest at best

This is just fiction.

Amir did not apologise straight away. All three players pleaded Not Guilty at the ICC Hearing six months later.

It’s true that Amir pleaded Guilty at the criminal trial a year later, but this was a strategic decision because he not only showed no remorse, he refused to give the Judge evidence in a Newton Hearing and maintained that he was 18 - which hardly anyone believes - to avoid going to an adult prison.

The only player with lesser guilt, according to the ICC, was Asif. He was the only one who didn’t jump at the chance to cheat, and who refused to take a bribe. Amir and Butt loved it.

 

[Saj]

Actually Imam outscored him, Fakhar scored a similar number of runs and finished with a better average and S/R (played fewer games) etc.

That's before you even factor in the fact that domestic performances have to be contextualised- if the player has already played a lot of international cricket and failed (ie averages 30 as an opener) then it is better to invest in a younger alternative who has shown promise and has had fewer/no international opportunities.

But let's say you are right and we should play the spreadsheet game, I assume this means you will be calling for Imran Farhat's return? He has outscored Butt in the QeA this year, and has a better test record than him too. I am sure Farhat will be delighted to hear of your support.

Bottom line is selection should be based on merit and Salman Butt does not deserve a recall.

I'm yet to be convinced that Fakhar Zaman is a Test player.

We have this tendency to think a player will be good in a format just because he plays a couple of good innings in another format. Naive at best.

Younger or older alternative. What has age got to do with it? Misbah and Younis threw that theory out the window.

I don't base my judgement purely on numbers or spreadsheets. Usually pretty good at judging a player.

 

[waleed88]

I can't believe people are forgetting the elephant in the room.

We are dearly missing Sharjeel Khan. He was one of those batsmen that could've succeeded in making a name for himself in UAE, he could've played the role Hafeez played in Test Matches for us

 

[Mamoon]

Come on man how many times do people have to answer this question.

Butt was the damn captain of the team. The leader of the squad. He knew what he was doing. Not only did he embarrass the team, he manipulated a talented youngster and took him down with him. If that wasn't enough, he then had the nerve to LIE to the entire nation. Not for days, not for weeks, but for YEARS. Amir apologized straight away. Butt lied for YEARS. You don't see any difference? Remember after this nonsense happened, Butt's father offered to hang himself if Butt was proven guilty. What happened to that? Did Amir lie to his family, or did he ask his family to lie for him? Either way, his behavior during and after the incident was shameful. And no honorable Pakistani should be supporting his return into the team.

Pretending that there is no difference between Butt's situation and Amir's situation is dishonest at best

Please read what you said earlier in this thread:

agreed 1000000%. sadly majority of pakistanis too easily forgive corruption, lies, and deceit. i guess this is the standard our politicians have set for us. this forum gives a good glimpse into that mentality with mr. butt having a decent number of supporters

Forget the comparison with Butt for a moment. How does Amir not fit the criteria that you have established?

Is he corrupt? Yes, that is self-explanatory

Is he a liar? Yes he is. He confessed earlier than Butt but that was a strategic decision based on the advise of his legal team. They realized that there is no way out of this mess and the only way Amir can lessen the punishment on himself is by admitting his guilt as early as possible.

Initially, Amir was flatly denying his involvement because at that time he and his team thought they could wiggle their way out of trouble. So yes, Amir lied as long as lying was convenient to him.

Is he deceitful? Yes he is. You cannot be corrupt and a liar without being deceitful.

So let me ask you again. Why didn't you oppose the return of Amir based on the criteria that you have established?

So you should either change your criteria and state that it is alright to be a corrupt, deceitful liar as long as you are not the captain and are young, or you should admit that you very selective in implementing your moral policing.

 

[shaz619]

Mohammad Asif does not deserve as much criticism as Butt and Amir, he was the lesser of those two evils.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I don't think Salman Butt is good enough a player to be in the Test Team.

He averaged a paltry 30. Even Shehzad is a better opener in Tests than him

 

[hadi123]

I don't think Salman Butt is good enough a player to be in the Test Team.

He averaged a paltry 30. Even Shehzad is a better opener in Tests than him

Ahmed Shehzad has played very few tests outside of Asia.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Ahmed Shehzad has played very few tests outside of Asia.

Apart from 2 Tests against WI, he hasn't played any Test outside Asia.

But Salman Butt averages 25 in India, 34 in Pakistan, 14 in SL and 13 in West Indies.

I will still put Shehzad ahead of him. Test is the only format that suits Shehzad plus he is 7 years younger than Butt so there is a chance of improvement rather than hanging onto a 33 year old with no international cricket for last 7 years.

 

[hadi123]

Apart from 2 Tests against WI, he hasn't played any Test outside Asia.

But Salman Butt averages 25 in India, 34 in Pakistan, 14 in SL and 13 in West Indies.

I will still put Shehzad ahead of him. Test is the only format that suits Shehzad plus he is 7 years younger than Butt so there is a chance of improvement rather than hanging onto a 33 year old with no international cricket for last 7 years.

Ahmed Shehzad's technique would make it very difficult for him to get centuries in places like Australia and England whereas Butt has got high scores in those countries. Butt has more ability without a doubt.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Ahmed Shehzad's technique would make it very difficult for him to get centuries in places like Australia and England whereas Butt has got high scores in those countries. Butt has more ability without a doubt.

Butt is a walking wicket against anything outside off. After a 7 year gap, it would be incredibly difficult for him to get a single century against Zimbabwe even. Look what has happened to Amir.

Technique is overrated, Chanderpaul, Andrew Jones and Katich got so many hundreds with rubbish techniques.

Butt never got high scores in England apart from those 2 fifties against a bad Australian attack.

 

[adil_909]

Please read what you said earlier in this thread:



Forget the comparison with Butt for a moment. How does Amir not fit the criteria that you have established?

Is he corrupt? Yes, that is self-explanatory

Is he a liar? Yes he is. He confessed earlier than Butt but that was a strategic decision based on the advise of his legal team. They realized that there is no way out of this mess and the only way Amir can lessen the punishment on himself is by admitting his guilt as early as possible.

Initially, Amir was flatly denying his involvement because at that time he and his team thought they could wiggle their way out of trouble. So yes, Amir lied as long as lying was convenient to him.

Is he deceitful? Yes he is. You cannot be corrupt and a liar without being deceitful.

So let me ask you again. Why didn't you oppose the return of Amir based on the criteria that you have established?

So you should either change your criteria and state that it is alright to be a corrupt, deceitful liar as long as you are not the captain and are young, or you should admit that you very selective in implementing your moral policing.

Amir admitted his guilt almost 2 years earlier than Butt. He didn't make a mockery and appeal to the CAS when he knew full well he was guilty. The tribunal also found him guilty of ordering Asif and Amir to bowl no-balls. He also didn't resort to pathetic tactics like having his father come out and say "i will hang myself if my son is guilty". You don't think any of that matters and both should be viewed the same way? You think the captain of the national team ordering his 19 year old bowler to bowl a no-ball isn't significant?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

.................

Technique is overrated, Chanderpaul, ........ got so many hundreds with rubbish techniques.

......

Chanderpaul had an unusual stance. His technique was excellent.

This used to be said back then and the passage of time has not diminished its accuracy - forget the stance, look at where Chanderpaul ended up when playing the ball; he would be dead in line with the ball, nicely balanced in the classical style to play.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Chanderpaul had an unusual stance. His technique was excellent.

This used to be said back then and the passage of time has not diminished its accuracy - forget the stance, look at where Chanderpaul ended up when playing the ball; he would be dead in line with the ball, nicely balanced in the classical style to play.

He used to play the ball very late especially the pacers, which would cut off his most scoring options in down the ground. The likes of Ponting, Tendulkar, Dravid and Kallis. That is some great technique, beautifully balanced, in line with the ball, could easily hit in the V or the square of the wicket without slightest hesitation. In addition to that, they had a beautiful defense.

 

[Mamoon]

Amir admitted his guilt almost 2 years earlier than Butt. He didn't make a mockery and appeal to the CAS when he knew full well he was guilty. The tribunal also found him guilty of ordering Asif and Amir to bowl no-balls. He also didn't resort to pathetic tactics like having his father come out and say "i will hang myself if my son is guilty". You don't think any of that matters and both should be viewed the same way? You think the captain of the national team ordering his 19 year old bowler to bowl a no-ball isn't significant?

You are deliberately not answering what I'm asking for.

As I said, ignore Amir vs Butt for a moment and reread what you wrote:

sadly majority of pakistanis too easily forgive corruption, lies, and deceit.

That is a general statement and applies to not only Butt but also Amir, Asif and every other corrupt player. So why were you okay with Amir returning? Was he not corrupt, did he not try to lie initially? Does that not make him deceitful?

Or you could simply take the easy way out and accept that all moral codes go out of the window for Amir.

Again, it is not about whether Butt was worse than him or not. That is an entirely different debate.

 

[mak36]

I'm yet to be convinced that Fakhar Zaman is a Test player.

We have this tendency to think a player will be good in a format just because he plays a couple of good innings in another format. Naive at best.

Younger or older alternative. What has age got to do with it? Misbah and Younis threw that theory out the window.

I don't base my judgement purely on numbers or spreadsheets. Usually pretty good at judging a player.

Many said the same about Sharjeel. In fact I remember the many people who said Fakhar wasn't even worthy of a place in the ODI side!

Age does matter. I have huge amounts of respect for Misbah and Younis but (i) they were exceptions and (ii) they suffered from pretty large dips in form in the last 2/3 years of their career. The fact is Mickey is looking to build a young-ish team and bringing back Butt would be an unwise investment.

I'm sure you do, and I usually respect your opinions, but calling for the return of a 33 y/o has-been who is averaging 33 in this year's QeA which is only marginally better than his test average of 30 is unwise. That's before I mention his technical deficiencies outside off-stump.

 

[hadi123]

Salman Butt scored 66 of 113 in WAPDA's 2nd innings against a bowling attack consisting of Mir Hamza, Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Nawaz, Mohammad Asghar and Hammad Azam. Was a close game as they only won by 57 runs so important knock from him. When he's in form there's no doubt he is international standard but he's been bang average in this domestic season. A strong finish to the QEA and he could find himself in the next Pakistan test squad.

 

[DRsohail]

Salman Butt scored 66 of 113 in WAPDA's 2nd innings against a bowling attack consisting of Mir Hamza, Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Nawaz, Mohammad Asghar and Hammad Azam. Was a close game as they only won by 57 runs so important knock from him. When he's in form there's no doubt he is international standard but he's been bang average in this domestic season. A strong finish to the QEA and he could find himself in the next Pakistan test squad.

performance in one or two odd matches should not be the criteria.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Salman Butt scored 66 of 113 in WAPDA's 2nd innings against a bowling attack consisting of Mir Hamza, Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Nawaz, Mohammad Asghar and Hammad Azam. Was a close game as they only won by 57 runs so important knock from him. When he's in form there's no doubt he is international standard but he's been bang average in this domestic season. A strong finish to the QEA and he could find himself in the next Pakistan test squad.

There is plenty of doubt, people forget how awful he was. True he did seem to be turning a corner before his ban, but as a whole he had a less then average career

 

[hadi123]

performance in one or two odd matches should not be the criteria.

Yes I know, he has been rubbish this season but if he finishes well, say 2-3 centuries, the fact our series is in England and he has played there before means he won't be too far down the pecking order when the squad is eventually selected so a selection can't be ruled out. He has 2 matches to get some runs if WAPDA make the final so a maximum of 4 innings.

 

[maxamax]

There is plenty of doubt, people forget how awful he was. True he did seem to be turning a corner before his ban, but as a whole he had a less then average career

Not just before his ban. He was taking huge tides in ODI couple of years before that. In Kitply cup he was easily the best Pak batsman.

 

[hadi123]

102 runs off exactly 102 balls today as WAPDA successfully chase down PTV's 300. Would have looked even better for Butt if he took it home and stayed not out but still a good innings from him.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some rumours going around regarding myself not playing today’s match wrongly being reported as some kind of a protest . The news isn’t true . I wasn’t well due to a bad stomach .</p>— Salman Butt (@im_SalmanButt) <a href="https://twitter.com/im_SalmanButt/status/950065312829001728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[UN talkz]

Salman Butt speaking in a TV show :

"Pakistan made a terrific comeback especially consider the loss in ODIs, where it was being said that NZ Will easily whitewash Pakistan in T20Is also"

"OD cricket is something that needs a bit of experience; we hurried things a bit in ODs and could not score big runs"

"In an OD, you need to occupy the crease for all 50 overs"

"If you wish to score 300 runs, you will need occupy the crease for 50 overs"

"In T20 you have 120 balls to play and 11 players and you can take your chances"

"In OD you cannot afford to lose wickets and also need to score runs"

"We play a lot of T20 cricket in domestic and also the guys get exposure in PSL so they dont have so many problems in T20"

"PSL is our domestic event and you cannot compare it with winning an international series"

"We should not mix the 2 things (success in T20 and bad form in ODs) as we need to improve our OD form"

"In OD you need more skills and energy and its also a test of your fitness"

 

[coy0607]

"OD cricket is something that needs a bit of experience; we hurried things a bit in ODs and could not score big runs"

thats the exact opposite of what we did, with Hafeez, Azhar, Malik there was significant experience in the ODI team. Salman just making stuff up as he goes

if anything, we didn't hurry things as much as we should have!
need to fast track more youngster beauties to ODI team

 

[Hamstead_joy]

Really am sad that this guy influenced Wahab Riaz also. ITs not Salman Butt's job description to dictate to LCCA who should play and who should not. Salman Butt has still not learnt from his wrong behaviour after going thru so much. In 2009, Butt similarly objected to Younis Khan captaincy, did a revolt and brought in Yousuf. Pakistan continued to lose due to these players. Got caught in England, went to jail,did sometime and was banned for 5 years. Thanks to our corrupt system was brought back in the domestic circuit.

The stats are still available on cricinfo site for Quaid Trophy season 2017, in stats column his name is nowhere there in 40 players with average t least 30. In list A he averages less than 29 but feels 'entitled' to be selected over the other domestic performer, for what?

 

[Sadevdesai]

This guy is begging to be in the Team !!!!!

 

[Abdullah719]

PCB gives NOC to Salman Butt for Bangladesh’s Mohammedan Sporting Club

LAHORE: Former Pakistan captain Salman Butt has been given a No-Objection Certificate (NOC) by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to play in the Dhaka Premier League, Bangladesh’s domestic List-A tournament, after the board cleared him of the controversy surrounding the privately organised Ajman All Stars tournament. Following the PCB’s go ahead, Salman signed up with Mohammedan Sporting Club for the entire season, the first phase of which runs from February 5 to March 20. “It’s good to be here after a long time,” Salman said. “Bangladesh over the years has become a high quality cricket-playing country. They have lifted their game and proven that again and again, and this all comes with a competitive domestic structure. Mohammedan is a club with a lot of history behind it, with a lot of Pakistani greats having played for them in past, and I hope be able to contribute well for them. Shakib Al Hasan will be leading the team and I believe it would make a difference in the season.”

Mohammedan Club official Wasim Khan felt an in-form batsman coming in to the team would help their side. “He is in good form, so we are hoping he will be useful for us,” Wasim said. “Salman is available for the whole tournament. We are looking forward to seeing him start.” Following the emergence of questions around the unsanctioned T20 league in the UAE, the ICC had asked the PCB whether any of its players had breached its code of conduct by participating in that tournament. The private tournament was not approved by either the ICC or Emirates Cricket Board (ECB). Initial investigations did not show any evidence of wrongdoing from Salman or any other international player, following which he was cleared. Salman then sought the NOC to play in Bangladesh, following his non-selection for Lahore in the ongoing National One-day Cup in Pakistan.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/196388/pcb-gives-noc-salman-butt-bangladeshs-mohammedan-sporting-club/

 

[MenInG]

DHAKA: Former Pakistan captain Salman Butt has arrived in Bangladesh to play his first full-fledged competition outside his homeland since serving a five-year ban for spot fixing, an official said Tuesday.

He was cleared by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to play in the latest edition of the Dhaka Premier League, a popular Bangladesh club franchise which runs until March 20.

Butt has committed to a full season for local giants Mohammedan Sporting Club, a club captained by Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan.
WAPDA beat PTV, enter National One-Day Departmental Cup final

The former Pakistan skipper is expected to make his debut against Brothers Union on Wednesday.

Mohammedan official Wasim Khan said the club was looking for a left-handed opener and Butt “easily fit” the profile, adding they were not concerned about his past.

“It happened long, long ago. He already served out his ban,” he said. “We don’t think it should be an issue now. We have seen him scoring runs and that is important to us.”

Kamran Akmal once again knocking on doors of international recall

Butt was captain of Pakistan when fast bowlers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir delivered deliberate no-balls during a Test match against England at Lord’s in August 2010.

The trio admitted to working with a bookmaker and served time in prison in England before being suspended for a minimum five years by the International Cricket Council. The ban ended on September 1, 2015.

Amir has since returned to international cricket but Butt and Asif’s careers were limited to Pakistan’s domestic competition.

Butt was allowed to play two matches in a T20 competition in the United Arab Emirates in January — one controversial match in that event is under investigation by the ICC Anti-Corruption Unit — before being cleared to play in Bangladesh.

Dhaka Premier League is a 50-over tournament featuring many retired international players including Pakistan’s Wasim Akram and Shahid Afridi, Sri Lanka’s Arjuna Ranatunga and Sanath Jayasuriya, India’s Ajay Jadeja and England’s Neil Fairbrother.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1627541/7-salman-butt-reaches-bangladesh-take-part-t20-tournament/

 

[hadi123]

101 off 91 deliveries for him today.

 

[batfirst]

Butt and Asif's international careers are over. I hope Asif
can pass the skill of seam bowling to the youngsters. As for
Salman Butt, he should become a jockey.

 

[shaaik]

Salman Butt 85* off 97 balls against Lahore Regions Blues playing for WAPDA.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=146498]Sher Khan[/MENTION]


Salman Butt has disclosed in his latest interview that He was set to play WT20 in India 2 years back. Waqar, Grant Flower and the then CS Haroon Rasheed had given him green signal.


Shahid Khan Afridi vetoed his selection.



A very interesting interview by Salman.


[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] if you can post quotes from the interview kindly.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

That was a good step from shahid. He knew that amir was already there and didn't wanted to deteriorate the environment of team. By playing butt

 

[Sher Khan]

[MENTION=146498]Sher Khan[/MENTION]


Salman Butt has disclosed in his latest interview that He was set to play WT20 in India 2 years back. Waqar, Grant Flower and the then CS Haroon Rasheed had given him green signal.


Shahid Khan Afridi vetoed his selection.



A very interesting interview by Salman.


[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] if you can post quotes from the interview kindly.

Injustice as usual with Butt. However, I don’t think Butt is suitable for modern day t20s. He deserves to play ahead of imam in odis and tests though.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=146498]Sher Khan[/MENTION]


Salman Butt has disclosed in his latest interview that He was set to play WT20 in India 2 years back. Waqar, Grant Flower and the then CS Haroon Rasheed had given him green signal.


Shahid Khan Afridi vetoed his selection.



A very interesting interview by Salman.


[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] if you can post quotes from the interview kindly.

Waqar as a coach was so desperate which shows he wanted TTF in t20.Ohhhhhh

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Injustice as usual with Butt. However, I don’t think Butt is suitable for modern day t20s. He deserves to play ahead of imam in odis and tests though.

Although most of Imam's runs have come against poor or average bowling lineups but still He needs to be given more oppurtunities since his Odi record is quite good tbh.


Inzamam should select 3rd opener for the Odi series vs SA and for me that has to be Shan Masood.



Yes Salman has been hard done by PCB for non cricketing reasons and I do not agree with closing International Cricket doors for him.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Waqar as a coach was so desperate which shows he wanted TTF in t20.Ohhhhhh

Although Salman plays at slower pace in T20 Cricket but his biggest asset is consistency with which he scores and his ability to carry the innings. That's his plus.


But his strongest format is four day followed by List A.


Salman wasn't TTF. If Hafeez & many others had played in Salman's era than there Averages & SR would have been equal to or inferior to Salman's. Salman did not have the luxury to play 65 % of Int matches in UAE otherwise his numbers would have been much superior.


Minus Salman's Test numbers and you will find his FC average to be 50 plus.

 

[pakistani pride]

That was a good step from shahid. He knew that amir was already there and didn't wanted to deteriorate the environment of team. By playing butt

The only good thing he did as a captain.

 

[Abdullah719]

Minus Salman's Test numbers and you will find his FC average to be 50 plus.

It's 44. Still, not bad considering other openers' FC records.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

It's 44. Still, not bad considering other openers' FC records.

My Bad. Thanks for correcting me.


Yes this means that wrt FC openers with 4000 plus FC runs in Pakistan atm only Salman, Khurram, Naeemuddin & Imran Farhat average 40 plus. (Excluding Test numbers)


Most compact amongst these was Naeemuddin but he was most callous wrt fitness hence he missed out.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Time to bring Salman Butt back, give him the captaincy too.

 

[Chokli]

Although Salman plays at slower pace in T20 Cricket but his biggest asset is consistency with which he scores and his ability to carry the innings. That's his plus.


But his strongest format is four day followed by List A.


Salman wasn't TTF. If Hafeez & many others had played in Salman's era than there Averages & SR would have been equal to or inferior to Salman's. Salman did not have the luxury to play 65 % of Int matches in UAE otherwise his numbers would have been much superior.


Minus Salman's Test numbers and you will find his FC average to be 50 plus.

His strongest format in International Cricket was ODIS.

He was a failure in Tests.

T20s he was too slow.

 

[Chokli]

Injustice as usual with Butt. However, I don’t think Butt is suitable for modern day t20s. He deserves to play ahead of imam in odis and tests though.

ODIs, yes.

Tests, no.