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Ian Bell vs Asad Shafiq

Savak

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Who is the better player?

Bell was regarded as a bottler and someone who scored the vast majority of his big runs after others had done all the hard work, but he very rarely ever delivered under pressure and when there was real responsibility and expectations from him.

He averages 42 with 7000 plus test runs and at the age of 33, the ECB lost patience with him and ended his career inspite of his decent stats and services for England.

Is Asad Shafiq heading in the same direction?
 
Who is the better player?

Bell was regarded as a bottler and someone who scored the vast majority of his big runs after others had done all the hard work, but he very rarely ever delivered under pressure and when there was real responsibility and expectations from him.

He averages 42 with 7000 plus test runs and at the age of 33, the ECB lost patience with him and ended his career inspite of his decent stats and services for England.

Is Asad Shafiq heading in the same direction?

Funny thing is, [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] I compared the two yesterday in a thread. The similarities are scary.

Btw, England wanted to go a different direction too. They have better standards than the PCB. Saying they haven't replaced him either.
 
Iron Bell was a very good player and I'll be OK if Shafiq ends up with 7000 test runs at 43 and 5000+ ODI runs at 38.
 
Bell was far better, even if we ignore the fact that he was 10x better than him in ODIs.

Azhar is the same level as Bell, and that is a level higher than Shafiq.
 
Bell on song dominated the attack. I have never seen Shafiq dominate anything. Whether he is batting on 0 or 100 plus, he will always look like getting out anytime.
 
Shafiq has been backed as if he's the second coming of Viv in tests and ODIs now booked his place for another 2 years and the below par performances will continue.
 
5 of his 11 centuries have come in losses, that's an incredible stat, just shows that he scores his runs when there is no chance of a win
 
Who is the better player?

Bell was regarded as a bottler and someone who scored the vast majority of his big runs after others had done all the hard work, but he very rarely ever delivered under pressure and when there was real responsibility and expectations from him.

He averages 42 with 7000 plus test runs and at the age of 33, the ECB lost patience with him and ended his career inspite of his decent stats and services for England.

Is Asad Shafiq heading in the same direction?

Same direction. I dont rate Bell. He is a rubbish player.
 
Whatever runs Bell scored were also soft runs. Got overshadowed pretty badly by a 24 yr Joe Root in Ashes.
 
Whatever runs Bell scored were also soft runs. Got overshadowed pretty badly by a 24 yr Joe Root in Ashes.

Root is ATG material, getting overshadowed by him is not a big deal. Bell was a very good player but not elite level. Shafiq is mediocre.
 
Root is ATG material, getting overshadowed by him is not a big deal. Bell was a very good player but not elite level. Shafiq is mediocre.

Root was very young at that time and not established enough.

I would say Bell is just a good player not very good and Shafiq is mediocre.
 
Bell is a better player than shafiq but inconsistent like shafiq.

Beautiful to watch.
 
Bell has played more defining knocks. His century vs SA in 2009/10 to help England draw a series in SA against an ATG SA team.

He dominated the 2013 home Ashes series to help England retain the Ashes.

He has dominated series something Asad has never done.

Asad generally gets hundreds by feeding off another partner he struggles when he has to take the initiative or lead from the front. And often his hundreds are in "noble defeats" or in games where someone else has scored a hundred before him.

Asad also is a lot more inconsistent. the guy has played over 50% of his Test cricket on placid UAE tracks and still barely manages to average 40.
 
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Whatever runs Bell scored were also soft runs. Got overshadowed pretty badly by a 24 yr Joe Root in Ashes.

Bell has done more in the Ashes than Root.

Along with Swann won the 2013 Ashes.
 
Bell was far better, even if we ignore the fact that he was 10x better than him in ODIs.

Azhar is the same level as Bell, and that is a level higher than Shafiq.

Only 10x? Bell was a gun player in ODI cricket as far as English ODI set up of his time is concerned.

Asada Shafiq is a lame ODI cricketer.

Even in tests Bell is way better player than Shafiq.

This comparison is weird.
 
Bell has done more in the Ashes than Root.

Along with Swann won the 2013 Ashes.

Bell did well in Ashes 2013 home series and was a rare series where he was England's best batsmen.

I was referring to 2015 Ashes.Bell was a more senior and experienced player but kept getting dismissed in similar pattern again and again leaving Root to overcome the team from the initial collapses.

On other hand, most English batsmen went missing when they toured Australia in 2013.
 
Bell did well in Ashes 2013 home series and was a rare series where he was England's best batsmen.

I was referring to 2015 Ashes.Bell was a more senior and experienced player but kept getting dismissed in similar pattern again and again leaving Root to overcome the team from the initial collapses.

On other hand, most English batsmen went missing when they toured Australia in 2013.

Bell was past it by 2015.
 
Pcb and with mickey there as coach needs to be ruthless and take a page out of the ecbs book if they can discard world class players like pirtersen and kick good players out of touch like bell it is something for our selectors to fathom .
 
Bell is the better of player but both were pretty mediocre batsmen. Shafiq has had a free ride in pakistan line up for to long now.
 
I think its a very good comparison between underachivers , I used to be a Bell fan and liked Shafiq . Bell overall had a better career , but Shafiq could end as a better player if he can turn it around .
 
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