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"How much would the DLS par score have been, had Berrington not been given out? -- Believe it or not, Scotland would've been ahead by three runs. "
 
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"How much would the DLS par score have been, had Berrington not been given out? -- Believe it or not, Scotland would've been ahead by three runs. " - from Cricinfo.
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Chances are they wouldn't have been though given Leasks increased strike rate.
 
That's horrendous.

That's absolute shambles.

Absolute heart break.

Unbelievable.

5 runs.

A horrific umpiring decision to go along with that.

Shocking.

Scotland have been well and truly screwed over by the weather and terrible umpiring.
 
Damn you icc to hell.

This is injustice. This is a tragedy. This may rob cricket of a potential test playing team.
 
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Is ICC so cheap and broke that they can't provide funds for drs for this important tournament? Scotland were robbed because ICC is a worthless peace of crap who can't even organize a decent tournament.
 
JattMaula said:
Is ICC so cheap and broke that they can't provide funds for drs for this important tournament? Scotland were robbed because ICC is a worthless peace of crap who can't even organize a decent tournament.
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DRS isn't in place because consistency is required across all games in the tournament and without all games being televised that's not possible. There's a very high possibility given the rain that Scotland would have lost independent of the LBW being given or not.
 
Heartbreak for Scotland. They deserve to be at the world Cup along with the WI, Zimbabwe, and Afghanistan.
 
Absolute disgraceful staff from ICC, with such high stakes having no back-up days. Scots are robbed here, not only by the rule or weather, but umpiring as well & I am almost certain it was deliberate - ICC wanted WI to be in WC.

Shame on ICC.
 
HitWicket said:
DRS isn't in place because consistency is required across all games in the tournament and without all games being televised that's not possible. There's a very high possibility given the rain that Scotland would have lost independent of the LBW being given or not.
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They were victim in last match too.

Why not televise all the matches then? At least super six.

ICC is an incompetent disgrace and sad part is that nobody will hold them accountable. People will forget Scotland's epic performance in this comp.
 
JattMaula said:
They were victim in last match too.

Why not televise all the matches then? At least super six.

ICC is an incompetent disgrace and sad part is that nobody will hold them accountable. People will forget Scotland's epic performance in this comp.
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In the end it's got to be worthwhile for the 'host broadcaster' to broadcast the games so that they bid for the collective ICC rights and don't get put off, and broadcasting all of them clearly wouldn't be.

Where were they a victim in their last match?
 
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Icc is money hungry organization
Lost love for cricket game today
 
HitWicket said:
In the end it's got to be worthwhile for the 'host broadcaster' to broadcast the games so that they bid for the collective ICC rights and don't get put off, and broadcasting all of them clearly wouldn't be.

Where were they a victim in their last match?
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Balbirnie was out lbw but was not given and he scored century for Ireland.

Can't ICC incentive the broadcaster to cover these matches? Its icc's job to look after cricket not broadcasters.

And they should have included the clause to cover all qualifying matches when issuing tender of broadcasting rights in first place.
 
Windies have secured their place in the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 after defeating reigning CWC Qualifier champions Scotland via the DLS method.

Windies have booked their place at the Cricket World Cup in England in 2019 after beating Scotland in the CWCQ Super Sixes Match 7 in Harare, which was ultimately decided by the Duckworth Lewis Stern method after rain brought a premature end to proceedings.

Chasing 199 to win, Scotland lost early wickets – they were 25/3 after the first ball of the sixth over – with Kemar Roach and Jason Holder the early tormentors.

Despite middle-order resistance, Scotland’s batsmen failed to capitalise on starts – Marlon Samuels was the game’s highest scorer with 51 – before the rain fell after 35.2 overs of the second innings with Scotland five runs behind the DLS par score of 130.

The covers came on and off went the players, with the rain ultimately bringing an unfortunate conclusion to an interestingly poised contest. Not that Windies will mind, though – they rounded off an exceptional campaign by cementing their position at the top of the CWCQ table.

Earlier in the match, Safyaan Sharif gave Scotland a major boost with returns of 3/27 in nine overs to help bowl out the Windies for just 198 in 48.4 overs.

Evin Lewis and Marlon Samuels continued their good run of form with half-centuries, but found little support from the others as the Scotland bowlers picked up wickets at regular intervals to stymie the Windies plans at Harare Sports Club.

Having elected to field, Kyle Coetzer could not have hoped for a better start than what Sharif gave Scotland, getting rid of Chris Gayle off the very first ball of the match. Scotland's best bowler of the tournament got the ball to pitch on off and move away late to catch Gayle's outside edge for a simple catch to Matthew Cross behind the stumps.

The right-arm seamer wasn't done yet, and he soon had Shai Hope nibbling at a length delivery outside off to present another simple catch to Cross – Hope went for a six-ball duck. The Windies were suddenly at 2/2 in 2.1 overs.

The 1975 and 1979 world champions needed a bit of calm to pull them out of the hole, and Samuels played the perfect support act for Lewis as the duo mixed caution with controlled aggression to craft a crucial 121-run stand for the third wicket.

The first Powerplay yielded just 27 runs with both batters intent on preserving their wickets, but once the ball got a little older, run scoring became slightly easier.

Lewis was the first one to open his shoulders, carting Alasdair Evans for two sixes and a four in the 16th over of the innings to bring up the 50-run stand. Another cracking drive over the covers brought up his half-century – his third in the tournament – in 63 deliveries, but Lewis was unable to carry on for much longer after that with Brad Wheal trapping the left-hander bang in front for 66.

Lewis' wicket triggered another collapse. Samuels reached his half-century, his 30th in one-day internationals, with a tap to the covers, but Michael Leask's double-strike set Windies back again. The off-spinner first had Samuels, who in a bid to clear the fence could only mistime one straight to Tom Sole at long-off for 51, and then Shimron Hetmyer fell first ball for 4 with the scoreboard reading 135/5.

Michael Leask picked up the important wicket of Marlon Samuels on his way to returns of 2/36 Michael Leask picked up the important wicket of Marlon Samuels on his way to returns of 2/36

Jason Holder's (12) stay at the crease was brief as well, with Evans luring the Windies skipper into a false shot with a brilliantly disguised slower delivery in the 40th over.

Sharif returned to castle the dangerous Rovman Powell for 15 with the Windies unable to find the late impetus they desperately needed. Wheal then provided the finishing touches by picking up the wickets of Carlos Brathwaite and Keemo Paul to return 3/34 in 9.4 overs.

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Rain came to the rescue of the Windies, who qualified for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 after defeating defending champions Scotland by five runs on the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern Method in a Super Six fixture of the ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier 2018 at the Harare Sports Club on Wednesday.

Scotland, chasing 199 for a place in the World Cup, to be staged from 30 May to 14 July, were 125 for five in 35.2 overs when a heavy downpour prevented further play in the match. When play was called off, Scotland needed 74 runs in just over 14 overs.

While the result ended Scotland’s hopes of featuring in their second successive World Cup and fourth overall since 1999, Afghanistan and Ireland are now back in contention if rain affects Thursday’s match between the United Arab Emirates and Zimbabwe. If there is no result, then net run-rate will determine the second qualifier behind the Windies.

In the Super Six winner-takes-all match, the Windies, put in to bat, lost Chris Gayle on the very first ball of the match, his seventh career golden duck, and then saw Shai Hope return to the pavilion 12 balls later to slip to two for two.

Evin Lewis (66, 87b, 7x4, 2x6) and Marlon Samuels (51, 98b, 4x4) revived the Windies’ innings by adding 121 runs for the third wicket in 168 balls. But, as the Windies looked set to post a decent score, Lewis departed and 12 runs later Samuels and Shimron Hetmyer also returned to the hut.

The Windies innings was wrapped up for 198 in 48.4 overs, with the last eight wickets falling for just 75 runs in close to 18 overs.

Scotland bowlers maintained a very discipline line and length as is evident from the fact that they delivered 174 dot balls and conceded just 12 fours and three sixes. The most impressive of the lot was 26-year-old Safyaan Sharif who picked up the prized scalps of Gayle, Hope and Rovman Powell conceding 27 runs.

Brad Wheal also rose to the occasion and bowled his heart out, to be rewarded with figures of three for 34, while off-spinner Michael Leask snapped up the wickets of Samuels and Hetmyer off successive deliveries to finish with two for 36.

The Windies needed quick wickets to not only qualify for the World Cup but also end Scotland’s dreams of featuring in the ICC’s pinnacle 50-over event for the second successive time and fourth since 1999.

And Kemar Roach obliged Jason Holder by accounting for the in-form Kyle Coetzer and Michael Jones, while the captain dismissed Matthew Cross as Scotland slipped to 25 for three.

The Windies, sniffing a win, continued to apply pressure and were eventually rewarded at the score of 67 in the third over when Ashley Nurse brilliantly caught Calum MacLeod (21) off his own bowling to end the 42-run resistance and then dismissed Berrington (33) was adjudged leg before as Scotland slipped to 105 for five.

George Munsey lived dangerously for his 32 not out and kept Scotland in the hunt for a place in the World Cup as they reached 125 for five, before Mother Nature smiled on the two-time former world champions as rain came down in force to end any chances of resumption.

The victory by five runs meant the Windies finished the Super Six with maximum eight points and not only qualified for the World Cup but also qualified for the 25 March final where they will meet the other qualifier.

For Scotland, it was a sad end to their World Cup aspirations despite being one of the most consistent sides in the tournament. They beat Afghanistan by seven wickets, Nepal by four wickets, tied with Zimbabwe and defeated the UAE by 73 runs, before losing a tight match to traditional rivals Ireland by 25 runs and by five runs to the Windies.



Scores in brief

Windies beat Scotland by five runs (Duckworth-Lewis-Stern Method), Harare Sports Club

Windies 198 all out, 48.4 overs (Evin Lewis 66, Marlon Samuels 51, Carlos Brathwaite 24; Safyaan Sharif 3-27, Brad Wheal 3-34, Michael Leask 2-36)

Scotland 125-5, 35.2 overs (Richie Berrington 33, George Munsey 32 not out, Calum MacLeod 21; Kemar Roach 2-20, Ashley Nurse 2-35)


Upcoming matches:


· Thursday, 22 March - UAE v Zimbabwe (S6), Harare Sports Club


· Friday, 23 March – Ireland v Afghanistan (S6), Harare Sports Club)


· Sunday, 25 March – Final; Harare Sports Club
 
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HitWicket said:
In the end it's got to be worthwhile for the 'host broadcaster' to broadcast the games so that they bid for the collective ICC rights and don't get put off, and broadcasting all of them clearly wouldn't be.

Where were they a victim in their last match?
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Why is money always the main interest? I understand ICC wants to make money but they should at least take a little bit of a hit to host a top class tournament.

To ICC the cricket doesn't matter, only the money.
 
Chris Gayle led the Windies’ celebrations after the two-time former world champions qualified for next year’s ICC Cricket World Cup, which will take place in England and Wales from 30 May to 14 July.

The Windies defeated Scotland by five runs by the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern Method on Wednesday after the defending champions were 125 for five in 34.2 overs, while chasing 199 for victory, when rain prevented any further play in what was turning into a thrilling match.

Asked if he thought he had achieved his mission of coming to Zimbabwe to help the Windies qualify for the World Cup, Gayle said: “Mission accomplished, definitely. It has been a long journey and the process we have gone through to qualify, we still have to give thanks even though it was a rain interrupted game today, but a win is a win.

“I am so happy to have qualified for another World Cup., I just have to stay fit now and we have a young team, but it will be my last World Cup that is for sure, so I am looking forward to it.”

Gayle said he had thoroughly enjoyed the tournament and was delighted to see the passion amongst the Zimbabwe fans.

“It has been a great tournament, the support here in Zimbabwe is always fantastic. It has been quite a while since I have been here, the people have been fantastic. We have come and accomplished what we came for.”

Talking about his hunger for more success, Gayle said: “The fans drive you, people always say Chris we want to see you back in Windies colours, want to see you play Test cricket in the whites again and I say one more time I will do it for you guys.

“I will take on the journey and next year will play for them again and I look forward to it.

“I need a couple (of) months to get properly fit and especially I love playing in England and Wales. Lots of the Windies fans over the world are sad that we are in this position, where we have to play the qualifiers. But, cricket is like life, you have ups and downs, and nothing is guaranteed in life.”

The Windies coach, Stuart Law, said: “The journey we have been on for the last year, we have had some bad times, some reasonable times. We came here to qualify for the World Cup, and we have played some pretty good cricket along the way. Today, we were pushed by Scotland, credit to them, they fought hard.”

Law praised his players for the way they fought in Wednesday’s match.

“For Marlon Samuels to come in at two for two and put on 121 runs was crucial once again. It would have been nice if Samuels or Evin Lewis had gone further into the innings, but they absorbed pressure and managed to get enough on the board.

“Credit to Scotland. They fought hard too, and we were lucky enough to pick up a couple of wickets. Nurse, Kemar Roach and Jason Holder bowled their hearts out. All round very happy with where we are.

“We can now sit down and plan for the Cricket World Cup which is good. We can get this out of the way and go home and start thinking about what we are going to do and how we are going to play in English conditions.”

The Windies captain Jason Holder said the people of the Caribbean should be proud of his side.

“I don’t think it (the qualification) has sunk in yet. We have been through a lot. We were bruised, we have been hurt and we have copped a lot of criticism in the past couple of years. To come into this competition, where there was so much pressure and to produce the cricket we have to qualify for the World Cup is pleasing.

“I have been very anxious, and nervous, it has been the general feeling around the whole team. One thing is that we came together for the whole tournament, that was the determining factor, we wanted the same result and we were fighting for the same cause.

“It is a great achievement to qualify for the Cricket World Cup, I pride myself on leading from the front and all the other guys have backed me up. The people in the West Indies should be really proud of us to qualify for the World Cup. It is the first time we have played in the Cricket World Cup Qualifier. To handle ourselves the way we did was really pleasing, I am sure everyone back home is smiling.”

The Windies fast bowler Kemar Roach said it was a tough game and now he was looking forward to his third World Cup. “It was a tough game, 198 wasn’t enough, so we had belief and wanted to make it as tough as possible for the Scottish to win the game, the weather was in our favour today and we are into the finals.

“It is my job and role to get wickets up front and I think I did a pretty good job today, could have been a little better, getting the win for the Windies was the most important thing.

“Definitely looking forward to the ICC Cricket World Cup it will be my third World Cup, if I am selected, it will be a great honour for me to play in that, and we will have to work hard to bring it home. The pressure we put the people under back home is tough, I want to say sorry, but that is the West Indies, that’s how we play, we keep people on the edge of their seats.”

Evin Lewis, who added 121 runs for the third wicket with Marlon Samuels, said: “It is a great feeling to qualify for the Cricket World Cup. We had a lot of pressure on us and we need to enjoy the moment. It is unfortunate to win by Duckworth-Lewis-Stern, but it is cricket and that happens.

“Looking forward to the Cricket World Cup, I have never been to one, and we will do our best and hopefully we can reach the final. It is a dream for all cricketers to be in a Cricket World Cup and it means a lot to me, as it is something special.”
 
Why having two qualifiers from this event is such a farce neatly captured in one image

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I just found out Scotland lost and I'm heartbroken, I've heard all the efforts they've put in the past couple years. They really deserved to win, but I guess the odds were not in their favor. My heart goes out to all Scotish PPers.
 
This is another reason I want more teams in the WC if cricket want's to be in the same league as football/soccer they have to have more teams participating in the WC in football/soccer there are 32 teams participating in the WC. That just justifies it's popularity if cricket had more teams imagine the popularity it could get.
 
Sad for Scotland, they had a good chance of winning yesterday's game. West Indies were extremely lucky after a poor performance with the bat. They lost like 8 wickets for 70 odd? Now Afghanistan, Zim and Ireland fight for one spot. Technically Zimbabwe needs to just win the game against UAE and they are through but if there is rain or UAE upset Zimbabwe then Ireland and Afghanistan come into picture. Scotland win could have made it more interesting though.
 
While I empathize with the Scots, there are lots of spurious arguments here.

Bad umpiring decision but almost certainly given his scoring rate, the Scots would still have been behind at the rain interruption.

As for 10 teams, cricket has multiple formats and ICC clearly has decided, and not without good reason, that the quality of a 50 over tournament improves with fewer teams.

And that T20 with its increased unpredictability is the format to globalize the sport and correctly, the T20 WC will have 16 teams.

Another one off appearance will not make the Scots a serious cricketing nation. Them being included in the English county and T20 competitions will, and that not happening is the real travesty. Same for the Irish.
 
Rain you gotta rain like you has never rained before. I want at least one newest member to make it to WC.
 
May be cricket is wanting AFG’s in WC - they have come out long way from elimination. Nepal saved their day beating higher ranked HongKong and then AFGs have played really well.

If ZIM lose today, AFGs will need to beat IRL by around 18/19 runs or 3.5~4.5 overs at hand.
 
Amir turns up with decent pace too.... these two could play for a non Minnow!

This is not going to be easy for Zim
 
Feel really bad for Zimbabwe. They should bat first in this crucial match.
 
Wow look at the crowd.. Man they are pumped up.. it will be really disappointing not to see them in the world cup. passion for cricket is still there in Zimbabwe.. knowing their history, ICC should do something retain these countries first before going after new countries to popularize cricket
 
My sympathies now with the UAE.

One, Mustafa's incredibly sportsmanlike warning to Williams who was taking off from the non striker's end before the ball was bowled. This needs more airtime and should be highlighted.

Two, the same William's bad spirited gesture at Amir, who didn't collide intentionally.
 
Gubol123 said:
Wow look at the crowd.. Man they are pumped up.. it will be really disappointing not to see them in the world cup. passion for cricket is still there in Zimbabwe.. knowing their history, ICC should do something retain these countries first before going after new countries to popularize cricket
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This is what happens when matches have context. A full house for a game against UAE. If ICC had a shred of competence within the organisation they would finally materialise the long overdue world league instead of overseeing more meaningless 7 ODI bilateral series between India and Sri Lanka.
 
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Man .. I see people crying. Thats how much these WORLD CLASS fans invested emotionally into this match.
 
Zimbabwe hard done by the Rain, the target got close to a run a ball thanks t rain means Zimbabwe had the pressure of chasing from Ball 1 and lost too many wickets in the end.
 
These qualifiers have been so SO sad. Not because of the quality of cricket, but cos of how unfair the entire process is to these associates. Horrible format of WC by ICC.
 
I don't understand how the DL system works in this case.

UAE were 235/7, and yet Zimbabwe had to chase 230 in 40 overs?
 
What does this result mean for the second qualifying spot? I didn't even comprehend the possibility of Zimbabwe losing this game.
 
Heartbreak for Zimbabwe fans. Turned up for all games only to see their team missing out in the end. Must say pathetic batting from Ervine, couldn't even dispatch juicy full-tosses, not once...twice...but thrice in a row?
 
hadi123 said:
Chris Gayle led the Windies’ celebrations after the two-time former world champions qualified for next year’s ICC Cricket World Cup, which will take place in England and Wales from 30 May to 14 July.

The Windies defeated Scotland by five runs by the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern Method on Wednesday after the defending champions were 125 for five in 34.2 overs, while chasing 199 for victory, when rain prevented any further play in what was turning into a thrilling match.

Asked if he thought he had achieved his mission of coming to Zimbabwe to help the Windies qualify for the World Cup, Gayle said: “Mission accomplished, definitely. It has been a long journey and the process we have gone through to qualify, we still have to give thanks even though it was a rain interrupted game today, but a win is a win.

“I am so happy to have qualified for another World Cup., I just have to stay fit now and we have a young team, but it will be my last World Cup that is for sure, so I am looking forward to it.”

Gayle said he had thoroughly enjoyed the tournament and was delighted to see the passion amongst the Zimbabwe fans.

“It has been a great tournament, the support here in Zimbabwe is always fantastic. It has been quite a while since I have been here, the people have been fantastic. We have come and accomplished what we came for.”

Talking about his hunger for more success, Gayle said: “The fans drive you, people always say Chris we want to see you back in Windies colours, want to see you play Test cricket in the whites again and I say one more time I will do it for you guys.

“I will take on the journey and next year will play for them again and I look forward to it.

“I need a couple (of) months to get properly fit and especially I love playing in England and Wales. Lots of the Windies fans over the world are sad that we are in this position, where we have to play the qualifiers. But, cricket is like life, you have ups and downs, and nothing is guaranteed in life.”

The Windies coach, Stuart Law, said: “The journey we have been on for the last year, we have had some bad times, some reasonable times. We came here to qualify for the World Cup, and we have played some pretty good cricket along the way. Today, we were pushed by Scotland, credit to them, they fought hard.”

Law praised his players for the way they fought in Wednesday’s match.

“For Marlon Samuels to come in at two for two and put on 121 runs was crucial once again. It would have been nice if Samuels or Evin Lewis had gone further into the innings, but they absorbed pressure and managed to get enough on the board.

“Credit to Scotland. They fought hard too, and we were lucky enough to pick up a couple of wickets. Nurse, Kemar Roach and Jason Holder bowled their hearts out. All round very happy with where we are.

“We can now sit down and plan for the Cricket World Cup which is good. We can get this out of the way and go home and start thinking about what we are going to do and how we are going to play in English conditions.”

The Windies captain Jason Holder said the people of the Caribbean should be proud of his side.

“I don’t think it (the qualification) has sunk in yet. We have been through a lot. We were bruised, we have been hurt and we have copped a lot of criticism in the past couple of years. To come into this competition, where there was so much pressure and to produce the cricket we have to qualify for the World Cup is pleasing.

“I have been very anxious, and nervous, it has been the general feeling around the whole team. One thing is that we came together for the whole tournament, that was the determining factor, we wanted the same result and we were fighting for the same cause.

“It is a great achievement to qualify for the Cricket World Cup, I pride myself on leading from the front and all the other guys have backed me up. The people in the West Indies should be really proud of us to qualify for the World Cup. It is the first time we have played in the Cricket World Cup Qualifier. To handle ourselves the way we did was really pleasing, I am sure everyone back home is smiling.”

The Windies fast bowler Kemar Roach said it was a tough game and now he was looking forward to his third World Cup. “It was a tough game, 198 wasn’t enough, so we had belief and wanted to make it as tough as possible for the Scottish to win the game, the weather was in our favour today and we are into the finals.

“It is my job and role to get wickets up front and I think I did a pretty good job today, could have been a little better, getting the win for the Windies was the most important thing.

“Definitely looking forward to the ICC Cricket World Cup it will be my third World Cup, if I am selected, it will be a great honour for me to play in that, and we will have to work hard to bring it home. The pressure we put the people under back home is tough, I want to say sorry, but that is the West Indies, that’s how we play, we keep people on the edge of their seats.”

Evin Lewis, who added 121 runs for the third wicket with Marlon Samuels, said: “It is a great feeling to qualify for the Cricket World Cup. We had a lot of pressure on us and we need to enjoy the moment. It is unfortunate to win by Duckworth-Lewis-Stern, but it is cricket and that happens.

“Looking forward to the Cricket World Cup, I have never been to one, and we will do our best and hopefully we can reach the final. It is a dream for all cricketers to be in a Cricket World Cup and it means a lot to me, as it is something special.”
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Who would have though Afghanistan would still be in it after losing their first three games. Everything has gone their way since then. But I expect Ireland to win tomorrow. Ideally I would have loved to see both Ireland and Zimbabwe qualifying for world cup.
 
It's so pathetic. Both Scotland and Zimbabwe were fit for world cup.Why only two teams will qualify?
 
Oh wow didn't expect Zimbabwe to lose to UAE. Can't believe it Ireland or Afghanistan get to qualify tomorrow, big game. I think Ireland will do it, and they'll probably give a better fight in the WC too.
 
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I don't understand how the DL system works in this case.

UAE were 235/7, and yet Zimbabwe had to chase 230 in 40 overs?
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Yeah they subtracted 10 overs and only 5 runs from the target. Ideally Zimbabwe should have Bren chasing a total under 5 rpo but when they started their chase, the required rate was already around 6.

Doesn't make sense.
 
ZIM doesn't deserve to make the WC to be honest. Even today, they had 3 wickets at hand and went for 4 runs in penultimate over, to make it 15 in last, knowing that UAE's best bowler would bowl the last over.

Didn't see the game, but from CI, it suggests, there wasn't much attempt either until last over. I think, first it was a mistake to opt for chasing in such pressure game - don't think UAE would have chased 220 here (in 50 overs).
[MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] - it's now at your hand buddy.

AFG or IRL then - it's a straight shoot out. Good luck to both teams; may the better team wins without weather interruptions.
 
hafeezrocks said:
Yeah they subtracted 10 overs and only 5 runs from the target. Ideally Zimbabwe should have Bren chasing a total under 5 rpo but when they started their chase, the required rate was already around 6.

Doesn't make sense.
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UAE still had 2.1 overs left when their innings was interrupted.
 
hafeezrocks said:
Yeah they subtracted 10 overs and only 5 runs from the target. Ideally Zimbabwe should have Bren chasing a total under 5 rpo but when they started their chase, the required rate was already around 6.

Doesn't make sense.
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Are you serious? UAE would have made 255 runs in 50 overs. And I.e. more than 5 an over. What zim had to chase considering 10 overs less was absolutely fine. If you decrease overs then considering that UAE was playing it as a 50 over match, target of 230 is perfect....
 
hafeezrocks said:
Yeah they subtracted 10 overs and only 5 runs from the target. Ideally Zimbabwe should have Bren chasing a total under 5 rpo but when they started their chase, the required rate was already around 6.

Doesn't make sense.
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Actually, it's (DWL) the closest they could come for a revised target and it's fair actually. DWL calculates past games from such situations and then project a tentative total for side batting first. Then, factor the loss of over to set the revised target for side batting 2nd and they factor wickets at hand as well.

For today's case, ideally with 13 balls left and 3 wickets at hand; UAE should have closed at around 256 (not necessarily it will be every time - some days it can end at 245/9, some days 273/8, they take an average). While ZIM is chasing, 10 overs are reducing, but target was 25 less as well, which helps the chasing side - the lesser the target, pressure of keeping wickets at hand reduces. Take yesterday's PZ vs KK game: in 16 overs, PZ ended 170/8; while KK 157/2 I believe - take the game to 20 overs; KK would have walked past 185 or so that PZ could have posted (had te kept wickets to target 20 overs, then it won't have been 170 by 16, may be 153/4 in 16..)

In today's case, it would have been worse, had the target been set with straight line average - roughly 195 in 40 overs. That equation will ALWAYS favor the chasing side BIG TIME.

ICC have tried several methods, at the end DWL is lasting for 2 daces almost now, because it's the possible best method. And, it's a live method - constantly adjusting the "per", as scores of latest games are brought into equation - that factors the changing context of ODI game. 10 years back, ZIM's target probably would have been around 220 .... and if this 300+ scores become a norm, 10 years later same target would reach 240+
 
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