ICC Dispute Panel decision: PCB to pay 60% of BCCI's claimed costs & Tribunal expenses in MoU case

[jagatk]

Mr. [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] PCB is run by Ehshan Mani. And he will not make matter worse for PCB by thinking like an ordinary fan. PCB will pay 60% of the cost without any hassle.

Secondly ICC is not going to get a penny from BCCI. You can create another thread after that , how ICC can get BCCI to pay $23 million.

Actually most ordinary pak fans just want to move on, this one's specially delusional.

 

[Hitman]

Do you realize that BCCI got the Match referee (Mike Denness) removed from the very next match and that ICC had to back down on their charges vs Tendulkar ? Infact Mike Denness officiated in a grand total of 2 Tet matches after that and was replaced lol. That was the last time someone tried to bully BCCI and got owned in the process. Sehwag was a nobody at that time and they let that go. Don't think for a moment that BCCI would have been so forgiving if it had it been a iconic player.

Not to mention that particular controversial Test match was declared unofficial by the ICC.

 

[Hitman]

Mr. [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] PCB is run by Ehshan Mani. And he will not make matter worse for PCB by thinking like an ordinary fan. PCB will pay 60% of the cost without any hassle.

Secondly ICC is not going to get a penny from BCCI. You can create another thread after that , how ICC can get BCCI to pay $23 million.

Is the BCCI supposed to pay that much money to the ICC? What for?

 

[Kaka_Hathrasi]

Is the BCCI supposed to pay that much money to the ICC? What for?

ICC couldnt get tax waiver from the INDIAN GOVT. when the WT20 2016 was held in India and now ICC wants BCCI to compensate for this as STAR SPORTS paid the broadcasting rights amount to ICC after deducting the tax money.

 

[latecut]

Shashank Manohar of ICC is an Indian. So instead of talking to the Indian government he expected BCCI to talk to the Indian Government regarding tax exemption. It shows that Shashank Manohar is a nobody when it comes to getting his way with Indian Government.

 

[Varun]

Honest question to all Pakistani PPers - do you really care about this if your name is not Savak?

 

[Kaka_Hathrasi]

Honest question to all Pakistani PPers - do you really care about this if your name is not Savak?

I think they don't care about it since the judgement of the IDRC came, let alone the matter of ICC ordering PCB to pay 60% of the total expenses incurred by BCCI...PCB's claim got rejected and it got finished for them at that point only. Now how and when PCB pays to BCCI doesnt bother them. Ya there were many people who supported PCB before the judgement came but after the judgement they dont give a damn about it.

 

[topspin]

Look you can call me what you want, but I firmly believe that Sethi gets too much heat for his political orientation. He has done some good work as PCB Chairman but never got his due because of his pro-PMLN stance.

Also, I believe that PCB's delusions with respect to BCCI and its sense of entitlement is not solely down to Sethi. As an organisation, it has been whining about the MOU long before he became a part of the setup.

Furthermore, the decision to go court was not exactly an autonomous decision on Sethi's part. PCB would have gone forward with the case anyway, and Sethi was simply unfortunate to be the one to give the green light. However, of course, I do blame Sethi for not taking a firm stand against this. A man of his network and clout should have known that PCB had no chance of triumphing at all.

Mani maybe more qualified and experienced on paper, but his first significant decision as Chairman was to established a committee headed by Mohsin Khan, which clearly exhibits that he is no up to the task either. Besides, he spent years badmouthing BCCI before conveniently changing his tune after the verdict for damage control purposes.

And for the record, I support Arsenal.

Glad to hear you're a Gooner as well - speaking of which I was at the Burnley game the other day.

I acknowledge some of the good work accomplished by Sethi, such as driving the inception of PSL and bringing cricket back to Pakistan however it is nowhere near suffice when he disregards the top two priorities which require addressing:

1. Cricketing Structure (from grassroots level)
2. Domestic Pitches

When I see the rest of your response, you're just clutching at straws here. If he gave the green light, it means he will have to accept full responsibility for proceeding with a legal battle (on the basis of a legally non-binding document) given the fact he was running the PCB at that time. Nonsensical to assume otherwise.

Lets be sincere here and acknowledge the incompetence of Sethi has been exposed. You just don't pick on the top dog when you have no legal binding agreement.

Mohsin Khan's appointment is an awful choice but you cannot equate the potential damage (in the worst case scenario) to what Sethi has done.

Acknowledge his failings and incompetence. You were wrong to call out his critics with the "no cure for Sethiphobia" jibe and deep down you know this has backfired.

 

[Savak]

Why The Pakistan Cricket Board Have To Pay Bitter Foe India $1.2 Million: Forbes

Why The Pakistan Cricket Board Have To Pay Bitter Foe India $1.2 Million

Tristan Lavalette

Contributor

SportsMoney

India and Pakistan, cricket’s biggest rivalry, has unfortunately been generally bitterly contested away from the field and, most recently, mired in a festering legal dispute.

After a lengthy nasty battle, International Cricket Council’s (ICC) Dispute Resolution Committee resolved that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had to pay counterpart Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) around $1.2 million in legal costs. The decision ended a nasty fracas between the bickering boards centered on the arch-rivals not playing against each other in bilateral series.

The Indian government refuses to allow India’s cricket team to play Pakistan and the countries only meet in ICC tournaments. They have not played a Test series against each other since 2007 and that long drought does not appear to be ending any time soon.

Not playing mighty India, who are cricket’s money spinner, has been financially crippling for Pakistan with six bilateral series between the countries – four of which Pakistan was meant to host – canceled.

The BCCI cited political tension between the foes for the cancellations. Last month, the PCB's attempt to claim $63 million from the BCCI for two bilateral series that did not take place in 2014 and 2015 was rejected by the ICC.

The BCCI, as is customary in arbitration cases, claimed legal costs from the PCB with the ICC determining the Pakistan board had to pay 60% - believed to be around $1.2 million. The PCB reportedly spent close to $1 million on the case.

"The PCB notes the ICC Dispute Panel's decision on BCCI's claims for their legal expense incurred on the PCB-BCCI dispute," the PCB said in a statement. "The award of significantly lesser costs than claimed by BCCI reflects that PCB's case had merits. The PCB, however, reiterates its disappointment in the original decision/award given against it."

Any way you spin it, undoubtedly it was a body blow for the PCB, which has to deal with the national team generally being unable to play in front of its cricket-adoring fans since a terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore in 2009.

Pakistan have generally been based in the expensive UAE ever since, which has been a financial drain costing the governing body $100 million from not playing at home in the past decade.

After coming off second best in the legal quarrel, it is highly unlikely Pakistan will be able to coax India into a long-awaited bilaterial series anytime soon. In recent times, the PCB has been slowly reintroducing elite cricket back to Pakistan through its Twenty20 domestic league – the Pakistan Super League – and drawing smaller international teams such as the West Indies and Zimbabwe.

The PCB craves to lure a powerhouse nation to Pakistan and now has set its sights on Australia through an upcoming five-match One-Day International series in March. It hopes to stage at least part of the series in Pakistan before shifting to the UAE.

Australia has long been reticent to venture there with their last tour to Pakistan back in 1998. The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade currently officially advises to citizens to “reconsider” traveling to Pakistan.

It feels like a long shot but Cricket Australia has yet to formally decline the offer. “We are in ongoing discussions with the PCB about the one-day tour in March next year. We recognize the PCB and the Pakistan government are taking every step to improve the security for touring cricket teams and we’ll continue discussions with the PCB, with the safety and security of Australian players and support staff being our number one priority,” a Cricket Australia spokesman told The Sydney Morning Herald.

There is genuine hope for a limited-overs return from a powerful nation like Australia or England, who last toured in 2005, but Test cricket being played in Pakistan remains a fair way off. “Test cricket returning to Pakistan will not happen overnight,” PCB chairman Ehsan Mani tells me.

Similarly, he could echo those sentiments on the state of the fractured relationship between Pakistan and India’s cricket boards. Mani, the former ICC president, has been bullish of smoothing relations between India and Pakistan, but it is unlikely to simmer after the latest skirmish.

Pakistan’s pocket-hit cricket body, however, will be well aware it must move on from the legal loss and subsequent embarrassment, and start pivoting to a more cordial relationship with India, cricket’s undoubted superpower.

I am an accredited cricket journalist in Australia and have covered the sport around the world. Most notably, I reported on the 2017-18 Ashes – cricket’s greatest series - from the press box and have experience in breaking news, features writing and opinion. I have written ...

Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/trista...ay-bitter-foe-india-1-2-million/#2b0029c987c5

Comments: The PCB has spent $100 million playing Cricket in the UAE over the last decade? Surely that cannot be 100% correct? Or is the author saying that the abscence of international cricket back home has cost the PCB a total of $100 million?

 

[Tusker]

Comments: The PCB has spent $100 million playing Cricket in the UAE over the last decade? Surely that cannot be 100% correct? Or is the author saying that the abscence of international cricket back home has cost the PCB a total of $100 million?

Together. It's a double whammy .

 

[MenInG]

Together. It's a double whammy .

Read the bit again- its the cost of not playing ie they could have earned $100 million - huge difference between spending $100m vs not earning that!

Pakistan have generally been based in the expensive UAE ever since, which has been a financial drain costing the governing body $100 million from not playing at home in the past decade.

That's my understanding as the number is too high for PCB to afford.

 

[Tusker]

Read the bit again- its the cost of not playing ie they could have earned $100 million - huge difference between spending $100m vs not earning that!



That's my understanding as the number is too high for PCB to afford.

Playing at home is lucrative yes and it probably is the main reason for most of the 100Million loss figure quoted in the article but not all of it , because the cost of hosting in UAE without any gate receipts to cover costs further adds to the losses. Whether that's on top of the 100Million or is included in it is not clear. I take it as included.

 

[Savak]

Playing at home is lucrative yes and it probably is the main reason for most of the 100Million loss figure quoted in the article but not all of it , because the cost of hosting in UAE without any gate receipts to cover costs further adds to the losses. Whether that's on top of the 100Million or is included in it is not clear. I take it as included.

PCB had a broadcast deal of $140 million with ten sports from 2003-2008 for 5 years but a significant portion of that came from the two home series against India in 2004 & 2006. India achieved a broadcast deal of $600 million plus at the time.

Similarly the PCB in 2015 had a broadcast deal with ten sports for $150 million but $60-70 million of the deal depended on successfully playing against India in a bilateral series at home or on a neutral venue like the UAE.

Point is PCB'S broadcast rights will definately improve big time if they can successfully move away from the UAE and start playing consistently at home in front of jam packed crowds.

 

[Tusker]

PCB had a broadcast deal of $140 million with ten sports from 2003-2008 for 5 years but a significant portion of that came from the two home series against India in 2004 & 2006. India achieved a broadcast deal of $600 million plus at the time.

Similarly the PCB in 2015 had a broadcast deal with ten sports for $150 million but $60-70 million of the deal depended on successfully playing against India in a bilateral series at home or on a neutral venue like the UAE.

Point is PCB'S broadcast rights will definately improve big time if they can successfully move away from the UAE and start playing consistently at home in front of jam packed crowds.

They will improve but I personally dont think it will be to tune of $100 million without playing Ind and having a poor team that regularly loses matches to lesser teams. Add to that the condition of your economy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

BCCI had already made an official proposal to play Pakistan's 'home' series in India, and allow PCB to take the profits after reimbursing the costs. PCB refused that offer. As of now, I believe that offer is not going to be on the table. But with some quiet diplomacy by the PCB, this is probably the best way out of the mess for them. Not right away, but a couple of years from now. This way, the PCB has something to offer the BCCI as well. And they will need to do that, in order to mend fences. But first, they will need to do the diplomatic work, make loud and public noises about respecting the BCCI to undo the damage done.

I took this at face value and put the blame squarely at the feet of PCB, but in reality the BCCI could have made any offer they liked, they were never likely to fulfil the commitment because the Indian govt would have pulled the rug anyway. The decision to sue was still wrong as it was never going to win a case where the accused is basically the judge and juror due to financial clout, but PCB isn't going to beg or crawl it's way into favour when govts are involved.