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ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2021 | Day 5 | 21 October, 2021 | Matches Discussion

This Doriga is batting well.

He is on 43* from 30 balls.

Without him, PNG could have been bundled out for less than 60.
 
So, these are the scenarios right now:

If Scotland beat Oman, Scotland top the group and Bangladesh finish 2nd.

If Oman win by 79 runs or more, Oman top the group and Bangladesh finish 2nd. Scotland get eliminated.

If Oman win by less than 79 runs, Oman finish 2nd and Bangladesh top the group. Scotland get eliminated.
 
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Finishing 2nd is probably better for Bangladesh as the other group is a bit easier (no New Zealand and India).
 
This is effectively a knockout game.

If Scotland lose, they are probably eliminated.
 
Bangladesh skipper scores 28-ball fifty

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All-round Shakib seals Super 12 spot for Bangladesh
BAN V PNG, MATCH 9, LIVE REPORT THURSDAY 21TH OCT

Bangladesh completed an emphatic win over Papua New Guinea to become the first team from Group B to seal their place in the Super 12 stage of the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2021.

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Having posted a challenging 181/7, Bangladesh bowled PNG out for 97. The 84-run win, their biggest ever by runs in any T20I, also gave their net run rate a boost.

While a top-two position is assured, whether they finish first or second on the table will depend on the result of the second game of the day at the Oman Cricket Academy Ground, between Scotland and Oman.

For the Tigers, there were several heroes on a hot afternoon. Shakib Al Hasan, who made an important 46, ripped through the PNG line-up with four wickets. Mahmud Ullah struck a 27-ball half-century and the middle order added 68 runs in the last five overs.

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PNG left floundering

PNG, playing in their debut World Cup, impressed with their catching. Kiplin Doriga, the wicket-keeper batter, also made a fighting 46*.

However, having fallen to 29/7 inside 11 overs while chasing a stiff target, there was no coming back for them. They will return home with no wins.

PNG's new opening pair of Lega Siaka and Assad Vala lasted just 15 balls. Siaka, who needed an injury break after getting hit on the thigh, was trapped in front by a full and straight Mohammad Saifuddin delivery.

Wicket-keeper Nurul Hasan took a fantastic one-handed leg-side catch, sending back Vala off the bowling of Taskin Ahmed.

Shakib takes four

Charles Amini then became Shakib's first victim of the day. Mohammad Naim, patrolling the long-on region, ran to his right and timed his leap to perfection, even as he avoided contact with the boundary ropes.

Three balls later, Simon Atai gave Mahedi Hasan an easy catch at square leg off the same bowler. Sese Bau found Naim again, while Hiri Hiri edged to the keeper. Shakib ended with a remarkable 4/9.

Doriga found the ropes a few times, but he only delayed the inevitable.

Bangladesh's best Powerplay so far

Earlier, Bangladesh's opening woes continued into the third match of the tournament, but Shakib and Liton Das ensured a recovery and the team's best Powerplay of this World Cup.

Kabua Morea might have had a wicket on the first ball of the match, had the nick carried to the wicket-keeper cleanly. The left-arm pacer ensured he struck the very next ball, though, having Naim caught in the deep by a tumbling Bau after trying to flick one angled in at leg stump.

The second-wicket pair of Das and Shakib took about an over to get settled before both went over the ropes in a signal of intent. Das got on one knee to slog sweep over the fine leg boundary, before Shakib sent one over long-on.

The duo ran well in the heat to post 45/1 in the Powerplay. However, those two sixes were among only three boundaries with the fielding restrictions in place.

Shakib denied a fifty

After all pace in the Powerplay, the introduction of spin got the next three wickets for PNG in the middle overs, even as their fielders did their bit in preventing partnerships from building.

Vala broke the second-wicket stand with his first delivery. Das' slog sweep was caught in the deep as Bau ran in from the boundary to claim a good low catch.

Mushfiqur Rahim made good connection to the left-arm spin bowling of Simon Atai, but found the fielder at deep backward square.

Shakib himself fell to an excellent diving catch in the deep by Amini. Having just hit a one-handed six down the ground, he reached at a wide delivery, only for Amini to pull off a blinder in the long-on region.

Mahamud Ullah goes big

At a time when boundaries were hard to come by, skipper Mahamud Ullah sent the fourth ball he faced sailing over the long-on ropes.

Chad Soper, who struggled to nail both the short balls and yorkers, got smacked for two sixes and a four as Mahamud Ullah brought up his fifty in just 27 balls.

However, he fell right after, caught in the deep off a full toss from Ravu. Afif Hossain and Mohammad Saifuddin added valuable runs at the death, giving Bangladesh just the boost their campaign needed.

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So Group A will have Srilanka ,BD, Aus ,WI,Eng ,SA. This will be an interesting group
 
Asif321 said:
So Group A will have Srilanka ,BD, Aus ,WI,Eng ,SA. This will be an interesting group
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Yes.

I think it is better for Bangladesh because this group is a bit easier than the other group (New Zealand, Pakistan, India, and Afghanistan).
 
sweep_shot said:
Yes.

I think it is better for Bangladesh because this group is a bit easier than the other group (New Zealand, Pakistan, India, and Afghanistan).
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No it's not. That's nuts. Who made these rules? ICC original rule made perfect sense to give predetermined seedings to SRL and BD.
 
Scotland top Group B and join India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan and the Runner up in Group A

Bangladesh finish 2nd in Group B and join England, Australia, South Africa, West Indies and the winner of Group A
 
Asif321 said:
So Group A will have Srilanka ,BD, Aus ,WI,Eng ,SA. This will be an interesting group
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And the other is likely to have Scotland, India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan and Ireland
 
Saj said:
Scotland top Group B and join India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan and the Runner up in Group A

Bangladesh finish 2nd in Group B and join England, Australia, South Africa, West Indies and the winner of Group A
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Realistically

Group A - India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Scotland, Ireland/Namibia.

Group B - Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh

I'm a fan of associate nations but this is just ridiculous.

Will it also mean at least one of AFG, SCO, Nam/Ire (whoever finishes 4th or above) will get direct super 12 entry in next year's WC?
 
sam_ahm said:
Realistically

Group A - India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Scotland, Ireland/Namibia.

Group B - Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh

I'm a fan of associate nations but this is just ridiculous.

Will it also mean at least one of AFG, SCO, Nam/Ire (whoever finishes 4th or above) will get direct super 12 entry in next year's WC?
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Group A will possibly have Afg, Scot, Namibia/Ire.

Group B looks pretty nuts and unfair. Shame on ICC for changing their original rule after tournament has started.
 
sam_ahm said:
Realistically

Group A - India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Scotland, Ireland/Namibia.

Group B - Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh

I'm a fan of associate nations but this is just ridiculous.

Will it also mean at least one of AFG, SCO, Nam/Ire (whoever finishes 4th or above) will get direct super 12 entry in next year's WC?
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Why is it ridiculous? The groups were made based on the international T20 rankings at the time (ensuring in a way that all those bilateral T20 matches weren't ultimately meaningless). Afghanistan were ahead of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka on merit.

Bangladesh lost to Scotland and deserve to be in the tougher group.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Why is it ridiculous? The groups were made based on the international T20 rankings at the time (ensuring in a way that all those bilateral T20 matches weren't ultimately meaningless). Afghanistan were ahead of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka on merit.

Bangladesh lost to Scotland and deserve to be in the tougher group.
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Yeah. Rules are pretty fair.

Good job, ICC.

Bangladesh should've been in the other group but they lost to Scotland and thus ended up with Sri Lanka.

Nothing unfair here.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Why is it ridiculous? The groups were made based on the international T20 rankings at the time (ensuring in a way that all those bilateral T20 matches weren't ultimately meaningless). Afghanistan were ahead of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka on merit.

Bangladesh lost to Scotland and deserve to be in the tougher group.
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Ridiculous because ICC changed the rule after tournament has started. As per original rule, SRL and BD would have predetermined seedings of A1 and B1 as long as they qualify, which made sense.

Now you have a group consisting of Scot, Afghanistan, and Nam/Ireland.
 
sweep_shot said:
Yeah. Rules are pretty fair.

Good job, ICC.

Bangladesh should've been in the other group but they lost to Scotland and thus ended up with Sri Lanka.

Nothing unfair here.
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How is that fair that rules were changed AFTER tournament was started? You can already guess why they changed the rule.

As per original rule, SRL and BD were A1 and B1 as long as they qualify to super 12, which made perfect sense.

Now in one group you have Scot, Afghanistan, and possibly Namibia.
 
BDfanforever said:
Ridiculous because ICC changed the rule after tournament has started. As per original rule, SRL and BD would have predetermined seedings of A1 and B1 as long as they qualify, which made sense.

Now you have a group consisting of Scot, Afghanistan, and Nam/Ireland.
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The original rule was an absolute travesty as it rewarded incompetence, there was no jeopardy involved at the qualification stage. I'm glad that the ICC saw sense.
 
BDfanforever said:
No it's not. That's nuts. Who made these rules? ICC original rule made perfect sense to give predetermined seedings to SRL and BD.
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I believe rules are fine.

Bangladesh lost to Scotland and thus finished 2nd. So, they deserved to be with Sri Lanka (who should finish 1st).

Previous rules were unfair. Predetermined seedings are illogical.
 
BDfanforever said:
How is that fair that rules were changed AFTER tournament was started? You can already guess why they changed the rule.

As per original rule, SRL and BD were A1 and B1 as long as they qualify to super 12, which made perfect sense.

Now in one group you have Scot, Afghanistan, and possibly Namibia.
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Where are you getting that rules were changed after tournament has started? Any source?

I checked Cricinfo, ICC website, and Wikipedia. I haven't seen anything regarding rule change.
 
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Last Monetarist said:
The original rule was an absolute travesty as it rewarded incompetence, there was no jeopardy involved at the qualification stage. I'm glad that the ICC saw sense.
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Definitely.

Anyone who finishes 2nd shouldn't be rewarded.

I am glad ICC has changed the rules as it forces teams to work harder.
 
BDfanforever said:
How is that fair that rules were changed AFTER tournament was started? You can already guess why they changed the rule.

As per original rule, SRL and BD were A1 and B1 as long as they qualify to super 12, which made perfect sense.

Now in one group you have Scot, Afghanistan, and possibly Namibia.
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I am not sure what you are sulking about but rules were not changed. The qualifications scenario was always the same..
 
sweep_shot said:
ICC has released another statement after this: https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2284474. That's before the tournament has started.

I think an established team like Bangladesh shouldn't complain about such a minor thing. They are not an associate side.
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What minor side? I gave you proof of ICC ORIGINAL statement regarding rules of the tournament. Then you give me something where they supposedly now changed the rules just 1 day before tournament started.

How can anyone take such tournament seriously? Their original rule made sense because it was based on team rankings even if SRL and BD had to play qualifier round. There must have been a reason why they put that rule into place ORIGINALLY.
 
BDfanforever said:
What minor side? I gave you proof of ICC ORIGINAL statement regarding rules of the tournament. Then you give me something where they supposedly now changed the rules just 1 day before tournament started.

How can anyone take such tournament seriously? Their original rule made sense because it was based on team rankings even if SRL and BD had to play qualifier round. There must have been a reason why they put that rule into place ORIGINALLY.
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It is something very minor.

Your outrage is cringeworthy.
 
BDfanforever said:
What minor side? I gave you proof of ICC ORIGINAL statement regarding rules of the tournament. Then you give me something where they supposedly now changed the rules just 1 day before tournament started.

How can anyone take such tournament seriously? Their original rule made sense because it was based on team rankings even if SRL and BD had to play qualifier round. There must have been a reason why they put that rule into place ORIGINALLY.
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The original rule was in place to allow foreign travelling fans to the 2020 T20 World Cup in Australia sufficient leeway to plan their itinerary. That justification was moot for this edition given that coronavirus restrictions prevent any foreign fans from attending the tournament.

The rule wasn't changed one day prior to the tournament, that's just the preview of the tournament. In any case, your allegation that the rule was changed after the tournament began is utterly false.
 
So, Bangladesh now face Sri Lanka (beatable), West Indies (beatable), South Africa (beatable), Australia, and England.

I think it is better for them than the other group as India, New Zealand, and Pakistan are much tougher.

Win-win situation.
 
sweep_shot said:
It is something very minor.

Your outrage is cringeworthy.
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Dude its not about being outraged or not. All I did is show you what the ORIGINAL ICC rule said. Then they changed it and now they have group with 3 associates, which is dumb.
 
BDfanforever said:
Dude its not about being outraged or not. All I did is show you what the ORIGINAL ICC rule said. Then they changed it and now they have group with 3 associates, which is dumb.
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Afghanistan are not an associate. They beat West Indies in the warmup and can probably beat Pakistan and even New Zealand too.

Scotland went there fair and square. They won all 3 games. They deserve it.

Ireland (assuming they will beat Namibia) are pretty good as well. They are also a Test nation.

Scotland are the only associate here.
 
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BDfanforever said:
Dude its not about being outraged or not. All I did is show you what the ORIGINAL ICC rule said. Then they changed it and now they have group with 3 associates, which is dumb.
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Surprised that you called Afghanistan an associate.

For the record, Afghans have been beating Bangladesh in T20 for a while now. They won 3-0 last time. They are a better T20 side than BD.
 
Kyle Coetzer produced a captain’s knock to steer Scotland to an eight-wicket win over Oman and book a place in the Super 12s at the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021.

Scotland went into the clash with the hosts knowing that defeat could spell the end of the tournament, but this was a complete performance as the Scots clinched top spot in Group B with a third win out of three – a historic achievement for the side.

That earns Scotland a place in Group 2 in the Super 12, alongside the likes of India, Pakistan and New Zealand, while Bangladesh end up as runners-up in Group B and head to Group 1 as a result.

For Oman, there was to be no fairy tale at the Al Amerat Stadium, Jatinder Singh’s run-out off the second ball a sign of what was to follow. A total of 122 always felt a little short, and so it proved.

Coetzer had not yet fired for Scotland at this World Cup, but his 41 made it a comfortable chase, and even after he departed, Matt Cross and Richie Berrington did the rest.

Oman were always going to need a good start, with Jatinder their star batter in the first two matches, and when he was run out after a complete misunderstanding on the second ball, it left the rest of the team with an uphill battle.

Kashyap Prajapati followed soon after for three, but Aqib Ilyas started to find his groove, hitting three fours and two sixes in a brisk 37.

Oman needed him to kick on though, instead he picked out George Munsey on the boundary off the bowling of Michael Leask.

Mohammad Nadeem looked good in hammering Mark Watt for six over long on, but he was caught at short extra cover by Berrington off the very next ball for 25.

That left all the responsibility to skipper Zeeshan Maqsood, given one reprieve when he was caught of a full toss from Chris Greaves that was above waist height.

He went on to make 34 before departing in the final over, but the wickets continued to tumble at the other end, and the total of 122 all out was not enough.

That became clear as Coetzer took an attacking approach to his innings, complemented by the free-scoring Munsey at the other end.

Munsey was caught by opposite number Jatinder after making 20, but Coetzer pushed on with three maximums to settle any nerves.

Khawar Ali finally found a way through Coetzer’s defences, but it was too little, too late, as Cross and Berrington got the team over the line comfortably with the latter smashing one last six to seal the win in emphatic fashion.

Scores in brief

Scotland beat Oman, at Al Amerat Cricket Ground, Oman by eight wickets
Oman 122 all out in 20 overs (Aqib Ilyas 37, Zeeshan Maqsood 34; Josh Davey 3/25, Michael Leask 2/13)
Scotland 123/2 in 17 overs (Kyle Coetzer 41; Richie Berrington 31 not out; Fayyaz Butt 1/26; Khawar Ali 1/27)

Player of the Match: Josh Davey (Scotland)
 
I don't complain about the rules here.
Pakistan, India,NZ should not take Scotland lightly here. They can give u a tough time.
 
BDfanforever said:
What minor side? I gave you proof of ICC ORIGINAL statement regarding rules of the tournament. Then you give me something where they supposedly now changed the rules just 1 day before tournament started.

How can anyone take such tournament seriously? Their original rule made sense because it was based on team rankings even if SRL and BD had to play qualifier round. There must have been a reason why they put that rule into place ORIGINALLY.
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They Put the rule in so Bangladesh and Sri Lanka don't get rewarded for Mediocrity. Bangladesh should have either directly qualified or beaten Scotland. They should be just happy they are going into the next round. If it wasn't for Oman terrible fielding and inexperience, Bangladesh would be buying a ticket to go home.
 
sweep_shot said:
Surprised that you called Afghanistan an associate.

For the record, Afghans have been beating Bangladesh in T20 for a while now. They won 3-0 last time. They are a better T20 side than BD.
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You knew what I meant by "associate" team. In t20 anyone can beat anyone I get that.

We beat them handily in World cups in both T20 and ODI but that's beyond the point.
 
BDfanforever said:
You knew what I meant by "associate" team. In t20 anyone can beat anyone I get that.

We beat them handily in World cups in both T20 and ODI but that's beyond the point.
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I really don't know what you mean by associate team.

Afghanistan are not an associate. Neither literally nor figuratively.

Ireland are no longer an associate too.

You are being very confusing here.

In T20, Afghans are better than Bangladesh and possibly Sri Lanka too.
 
Yati said:
They Put the rule in so Bangladesh and Sri Lanka don't get rewarded for Mediocrity. Bangladesh should have either directly qualified or beaten Scotland. They should be just happy they are going into the next round. If it wasn't for Oman terrible fielding and inexperience, Bangladesh would be buying a ticket to go home.
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I agree.

Oman's incompetent batting cost them the game. They were looking good to eliminate Bangladesh.

Scotland deserved to go to the other group due to winning 3 out of 3. Good performance should be rewarded.
 
sweep_shot said:
I really don't know what you mean by associate team.

Afghanistan are not an associate. Neither literally nor figuratively.

Ireland are no longer an associate too.

You are being very confusing here.

In T20, Afghans are better than Bangladesh and possibly Sri Lanka too.
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All I am saying is that Group A is certainly not the easier group as you have claimed. That is all. As a BD fan like yourself, I would rather fancy our chances in Group B.

I also tried to justify their original rule because to me that actually made sense because you see now SRL could easily lose to NED by big margin and still wind up in Group B that way. The original rule was a failsafe for such event to occur.
 
BDfanforever said:
All I am saying is that Group A is certainly not the easier group as you have claimed. That is all. As a BD fan like yourself, I would rather fancy our chances in Group B.

I also tried to justify their original rule because to me that actually made sense because you see now SRL could easily lose to NED by big margin and still wind up in Group B that way. The original rule was a failsafe for such event to occur.
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Group B have New Zealand, India, and Pakistan. Do you think Bangladesh can beat these teams? These teams are obviously tougher. Even Afghanistan are a tough opponent.

Group A have teams that are weak against spin (Australia, England, South Africa, and West Indies). Even Sri Lanka are pretty ordinary.
 
Scotland v Oman:

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BDfanforever said:
All I am saying is that Group A is certainly not the easier group as you have claimed. That is all. As a BD fan like yourself, I would rather fancy our chances in Group A

I also tried to justify their original rule because to me that actually made sense because you see now SRL could easily lose to NED by big margin and still wind up in Group B that way. The original rule was a failsafe for such event to occur.
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For bungladesh I think the easier group is A
 
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