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ICC splits points for Pakistan-India series in Women's Championship after India refuse to play

Lol there is another thing which you are missing here. We refused to play against Pakistan in Women cricket because some arrogant souls think BCCI wants to stay away from PCB. Now all eyes will be on BCCI in the Men's World Cup because now we have to refuse to play against Pakistan there as well. If we don't refuse to play then we will be labelled as hypocrites for sure. :inti

that we already are avoiding bilateral and playing in ICC matches..
BCCI is flag bearer of Hypocrites.
 
Arey kuch to bolna padega na.

BCCI isnt concerned about PCB. They want to stay away from pcb. Mainly because of the govt rules But bcci isnt making any offensive against pcb and pcb knows it.

Let these brave kids run around making claims, pcb knows it has more to lose than gain if they attack bcci.

Really? Then why do we keep playing against them in Men's World Cup and Champions Trophy? Is this not hypocrisy Mr BusinessJoshila? :inti
 
Exactly. Either boycott them in all matches or play all matches against them. Picking and choosing which matches to play against Pakistan shows BCCI's hypocrisy. :inti

My Brother. This will be resolved shortly. I think BCCI were hoping for PCB women to get full points due to forfeit. They are in a big mess now more than PCB or ICC
 
Points sharing is a bit odd.

ICC could've gone for a different outcome. Neutral venue is one solution.
 
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Getting thrashed or winning is not the point in my opinion, issue is the precedent being set here.
You're right, i was just messing around.
If bcci agreed to a series then they should bear the brunt. Points should have been awarded to Pakistan.
 
Nothing to do with Gherat. Playing a Bi-lateral series with Pakistan will financially benefit PCB so they should be ignored and only played whenever necessary.

This right here shows the mentality of you guys. What a bunch of buffoons you lot are.
 
This right here shows the mentality of you guys. What a bunch of buffoons you lot are.

And that my friend is the reason we will never become a superpower and will always remain a third world country. Thanks to idiots like them. They have ruined a beautiful sport like cricket for their greed and revenge. :inti
 
Pakistan not playing may mean the tournament is less attractive for pakistanis, but that doesn't mean the tournament will be less attractive to others.

India will pull out, if ICC tries to shift the tournament out of India because of pakistan. Decision will be simple for icc,which team they dont want to lose.

Let me tell you, India is supposed to host a number of Olympics qualifiers and the hockey WC, pakistan will have to pull out of all of them.

No it would devalue the tournament and I cant see such a scenario obviously it would mean nothings for all of Pakistan fans which make up a significant number of fans who follow cricket plus many other educated ones such as in England, NZ and Australia fans it will mean less in their eyes for sure.
 
No it would devalue the tournament and I cant see such a scenario obviously it would mean nothings for all of Pakistan fans which make up a significant number of fans who follow cricket plus many other educated ones such as in England, NZ and Australia fans it will mean less in their eyes for sure.

It becomes a boring tournament for Indians also. This guy doesn’t speak for 1.3 billion Indians lol
 
My Brother. This will be resolved shortly. I think BCCI were hoping for PCB women to get full points due to forfeit. They are in a big mess now more than PCB or ICC

Lol. BCCI fought for its case to get the points split.

You and your dreams.
 
This right here shows the mentality of you guys. What a bunch of buffoons you lot are.

Why should pcb be allowed to benefit from the Indian market? Pakistan support a secessionist terrorist movement in India. And then want to earn money from India. Both cant go hand in hand.
 
No it would devalue the tournament and I cant see such a scenario obviously it would mean nothings for all of Pakistan fans which make up a significant number of fans who follow cricket plus many other educated ones such as in England, NZ and Australia fans it will mean less in their eyes for sure.

Again ICCs choice will be to see which team's absence will hurt the tournament more.

Olympics have been held without a large number of countries not participating and most wont be able to tell the years without Googling and many wont even know this fact.

If NZ or Aus or Eng win the trophy, will they care if pakistan played or not?

And such a boycott by Pakistan will not go unpunished by ICC.
 
Again ICCs choice will be to see which team's absence will hurt the tournament more.

Olympics have been held without a large number of countries not participating and most wont be able to tell the years without Googling and many wont even know this fact.

If NZ or Aus or Eng win the trophy, will they care if pakistan played or not?

And such a boycott by Pakistan will not go unpunished by ICC.

So you just compared Olympics with cricket?? try and not devalue your own argument next time
 
Points sharing is a bit odd.

ICC could've gone for a different outcome. Neutral venue is one solution.

You really think this wouldn't have been considered already? India would have required government approval for a neutral venue as well. And they were never going to get it.
 
PCB legal team reviewing ICC’s point-sharing verdict

KARACHI: The legal team of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is reviewing a controversial verdict by the International Cricket Council Women’s Championship Technical Committee on Wednesday that saw Pakistan lose out on a golden chance of qualification for the World Cup next year.

Dawn understands that the PCB is exploring all options by seeking legal advice from its lawyers and will announce its action in due course. PCB chairman Ehsan Mani had earlier expressed his disappointment over the verdict.

The TC had deduced that the series between India and Pakistan did not take place owing to a force majeure event. According to the TC, the BCCI did not give the green light to the series because it failed to get the necessary clearance from the government. In the recent past, ICC has acted on government interference in the decision-making of its member boards.

With the two teams sharing three points each, India have joined New Zealand, Australia, England and South Africa as confirmed participants whereas Pakistan will now have to play the World Cup qualifiers in Sri Lanka.

Before the points were shared between the arch-rivals, India stood at 20 whereas Pakistan had 16 in the bag. Had Pakistan been awarded all six points because of forfeiture by India, they would have edged India by two points resulting in qualification for the World Cup with India needing to play the qualifiers.

Zimbabwe were suspended by the ICC last year after failing to comply with its ‘no governmental interference’ policy. While the suspension was lifted three months later, it did spark a debate as to why poor members were dealt a bad hand when rich members like India had been getting away with the same offence.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1550338/pcb-legal-team-reviewing-iccs-point-sharing-verdict
 
Bismah ‘disappointed’ over ICC’s point-sharing verdict

April 29, 2020

Lahore

Women’s cricket team skipper Bismah Maroof has expressed her disappointment over the International Cricket Council’s (ICC) decision to give equal points to Pakistan and India after both the teams were unable to play their ICC Women’s Championship matches due to the latter’s political problems.

Bismah told media during an online session that her team was hoping that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) would take the matter to ICC’s dispute resolution committee.
“It is obviously disappointing that we are sharing points despite the fact that we were always willing to play the series but reluctance came from India,” she said.
“I’m sure PCB’s legal team is working on it and we will back whatever they decide.”
Despite the situation, Maroof sees positives for her side.

“India got points without playing any competitive cricket. I am looking to take positives out of this decision that we will get some more matches in the qualifying round,” said the 28-year old cricketer.
Earlier this month, the ICC’s technical committee concluded that the series could not be played because of a Force Majeure event after the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) demonstrated that it was unable to obtain the necessary government clearances.

Subsequently, the points were shared equally by both the teams which allowed India to qualify for the ICC Women’s World Cup and pushed Pakistan to play the qualifiers.
“This would have been easier to accept if we had played some competitive cricket,” Bismah said. She highlighted that Pakistan had no issues on their end.

“Pakistan has always been willing to play. We always kept sports away from politics and it was disappointing that we couldn’t play those matches,” she said.

Meanwhile, when asked of her role model she named India’s captain Virat Kohli. “Kohli is my favorite and you don’t need to explain why he is one’s favorite. His work ethic and consistency makes him a role model for everyone,” she said.

Furthermore, she praised her former teammate and recently-retired Sana Mir had played an influential role in development of women cricket in Pakistan.

“A lot of cricketers grew up under Sana’s leadership. She’s without a doubt a big name in women’s cricket. I believe that she did deserve a farewell match but the present circumstances didn’t allow the PCB to provide one.”

When asked of her ideal team she named Sana as captain and mentioned other players like Meg Lanning, Ellyse Perry, Alyssa Healy, Mithali Raj and Harmanpreet Kaur.—APP
 
^^^ This is not fair at all.

Now what will happen if Pakistan deliberately decides to boycott their match against India in World Cups? I think they can do that, get a point and break the streak. Is it not possible? ICC can't take two different decisions. :inti
 
^^^ This is not fair at all.

Now what will happen if Pakistan deliberately decides to boycott their match against India in World Cups? I think they can do that, get a point and break the streak. Is it not possible? ICC can't take two different decisions. :inti

Oh my if Pakistan decides to do this...

The streak will break :ssa
 
Let me help some posters here.

India holds an UNBEATEN streak of 7-0 in world cup which will remain intact even if pakistan boycotts the match.

Let me make it easy for a certain poster
Google search for UNBEATEN
Unbeaten - not defeated or surpassed.
Please use your brain next time.
No need to get your knickers in a twist. :yk
 
The day the streak breaks I recon India will stop playing Pakistan in world cups also
 
Lol at some desperate souls who are now talking about unbeaten streak. It's obvious people always talk about streak which is uninterrupted by any losses, abandoned matches etc.

What is a winning streak?
A winning streak is an uninterrupted sequence of success in games or competitions, commonly measured by wins that are uninterrupted by losses or ties/draws. In sports, it can be applied to teams, and individuals.

:inti
 
The day the streak breaks I recon India will stop playing Pakistan in world cups also

ICC has really set a bad precedent here. If a team like Afghanistan just needs 1 point to qualify to the next stage of a tournament and their next match is against a strong team like Australia. Can't they boycott that match, win a point and qualify? If ICC objects or doesn't agree then they can always give this example of splitting points between Indian and Pakistani women team. :inti
 
Thread isn't about the streak. Let's get back to the topic.

If such a scenario crops up with the shoe on the other foot, will Pakistan also gain points?
 
As mentioned before as well. This precedent will make teams boycott matches in WC to split points and get 1 point when it suits their perspective. Imagine Pak or Ind needing 1 point to qualify to the next stage, they can easily boycott the match to go to the next stage.

By this rule if Pak would have boycotted India's match in WC 19, Pak would have qualified for the semis as their points would be more than NZ.
 
As mentioned before as well. This precedent will make teams boycott matches in WC to split points and get 1 point when it suits their perspective. Imagine Pak or Ind needing 1 point to qualify to the next stage, they can easily boycott the match to go to the next stage.

By this rule if Pak would have boycotted India's match in WC 19, Pak would have qualified for the semis as their points would be more than NZ.

Exactly. Just to please BCCI, ICC did set a bad precedent. Not surprised to see some arrogant fans not raising a question mark over this. :inti
 
As mentioned before as well. This precedent will make teams boycott matches in WC to split points and get 1 point when it suits their perspective. Imagine Pak or Ind needing 1 point to qualify to the next stage, they can easily boycott the match to go to the next stage.

By this rule if Pak would have boycotted India's match in WC 19, Pak would have qualified for the semis as their points would be more than NZ.

There is a difference between a world cup and a odi league. A world cup is a icc event and teams sign the MPA for it. Matches and points are governed by terms of the MPA.

A odi league is based on bilateral series.
 
As mentioned before as well. This precedent will make teams boycott matches in WC to split points and get 1 point when it suits their perspective. Imagine Pak or Ind needing 1 point to qualify to the next stage, they can easily boycott the match to go to the next stage.

By this rule if Pak would have boycotted India's match in WC 19, Pak would have qualified for the semis as their points would be more than NZ.

Yup. they will use their government troubles as excuse, and cite this case as precedent.
 
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