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ICC World Cup 2023: Crowd watch

There is no hype for this World Cup whatsoever. BCCI and ICC have done a terrible job of organising the tournament starting from the format, promotion and all the unnecessary political chaos. I think this is the end for ODI cricket.
 
The Non Indian Matches clearly aren't selling in India so much so that the whole event looks like a farce, probably the worst start to a CWC.

Wouldn't it have made sense to share hosting rights with Neighbor's like Pakistan, Bangladesh and SL ?

A Pakistan - Afghanistan match/Pakistan -SL match/Pakistan- Netherlands match which is unlikely to get many takers in India if hosted in Pakistan will get good crowds.

Same goes for Afghanistan SL , SL Bangladesh , SL NZ , SL England matches in SL.

Or Bangladesh England, Bangladesh Australia matches in Dhaka.

Why become the solo host of an event when you are going to fail to sell it among your people ? Co-hosting worked well during the 96 and 2011 WC and it added more cultural flavors to the WC.

But now BCCI decided to do it all on its own and is failing to sell matches even between prominent teams.

If Indian matches are the only events that will see good crowds in India then let other neighbouring countries host their own, doing that atleast half the matches of the World Cup will be played in front of good audience.
 
There was 50k crowd during 2nd innings and This number doesn't even have capability of any other Asian countries
 
Devadwal said:
There was 50k crowd during 2nd innings and This number doesn't even have capability of any other Asian countries
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Pakistan Netherlands match would have been a sold out if it was held in Pakistan. , Will it be sold out in India tomorrow ? If not then it's a loss. We are likely to see even a poorer crowd turnout now so why not share hosting rights with neighbours which will lead to a better audience at atleast half the matches.

I am talking about Pakistan, BD, SL hosting their own matches not neutral matches like the one today.
 
Lol look at India Pak match in 2015 in Aus. India Pak match had empty stadiums.. Its a working day and even if there were 25K people the ground will look empty as it will be less than 20% full
 
hafeezrocks said:
Pakistan Netherlands match would have been a sold out if it was held in Pakistan. , Will it be sold out in India tomorrow ? If not then it's a loss. We are likely to see even a poorer crowd turnout now so why not share hosting rights with neighbours which will lead to a better audience at atleast half the matches.

I am talking about Pakistan, BD, SL hosting their own matches not neutral matches like the one today.
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I am presuming coming closer to the event, you will be complaining about CT2015, I mean why would Pakistanis on a work day go to watch India BD or India SA (assuming India tour) or why would Pakistani Awaam be interested in BD-SA on a work day?
 
nish_mate said:
I am presuming coming closer to the event, you will be complaining about CT2015, I mean why would Pakistanis on a work day go to watch India BD or India SA (assuming India tour) or why would Pakistani Awaam be interested in BD-SA on a work day?
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Edit Mean CT 2025
 
nish_mate said:
I am presuming coming closer to the event, you will be complaining about CT2015, I mean why would Pakistanis on a work day go to watch India BD or India SA (assuming India tour) or why would Pakistani Awaam be interested in BD-SA on a work day?
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I am taking about

Pakistan v/s Netherlands
Pakistan v/s SL
Pakistan v/s Afghanistan
Pakistan v/s Bangladesh
Pakistan v/s Australia
Pakistan v/s NZ
Pakistan v/s England


All the above mentioned matches will witness a much greater audience in Pakistan than India for obvious reasons so why not share the hosting rights with the neighbour which was the ideal thing done before ? Would have also taken load off India to find audience for all the matches ?

A SL Pak WC match will be flop in India but will be a hit in Either SL or Pakistan, so why not let the neigbours host it ?

By going solo, BCCI is doing more harm to the reputation of the tournament. Host all the neutral matches by all means but let the neigbours host their own like it was done in previous editions.
 
Devadwal said:
There was 50k crowd during 2nd innings and This number doesn't even have capability of any other Asian countries
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never looked like the 50k crowd was there. In my opinion there was hardly 15k to 20k attendance.
 
47,518 for the England versus New Zealand match.

The capacity at the Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad is 132,000
 
hafeezrocks said:
I am taking about

Pakistan v/s Netherlands
Pakistan v/s SL
Pakistan v/s Afghanistan
Pakistan v/s Bangladesh
Pakistan v/s Australia
Pakistan v/s NZ
Pakistan v/s England


All the above mentioned matches will witness a much greater audience in Pakistan than India for obvious reasons so why not share the hosting rights with the neighbour which was the ideal thing done before ? Would have also taken load off India to find audience for all the matches ?

A SL Pak WC match will be flop in India but will be a hit in Either SL or Pakistan, so why not let the neigbours host it ?

By going solo, BCCI is doing more harm to the reputation of the tournament. Host all the neutral matches by all means but let the neigbours host their own like it was done in previous editions.
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Mate you know as well as I do why hosting wasnt shared, damn they took it away from PK in 2011 when they were supposed to be co hosts for reasons previously extensively discussed.

Other than England, stadiums will always be empty for neutal games.


PS- you didnt respond on CT :)
 
Cricket Warrior said:
never looked like the 50k crowd was there. In my opinion there was hardly 15k to 20k attendance.
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There were 15-20k during England innings. But in the second innings the crowd increased but still seemed empty as the stadium has a capacity of 1.35 lakh seats.
 
Saj said:
47,518 for the England versus New Zealand match.

The capacity at the Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad is 132,000
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so they made a big stadium not knowing that alot of people wont turn up.
This is a project failiure by the political group that wanted a stadium be made in the honor of Modi
 
Typical Indian organizational incompetence at play.

Human bodies is the cheapest resource in India and BCCI could not even get that to fill up stadiums.
 
47,518 ATTENDED THE WORLD CUP OPENER..
The best ever World Cup opener crowd in Asia history
 
Pictures on Twitter shoe Pigeon **** on the chairs in today's game as well. This is beyond disgusting 🤦‍♂️
 
HitWicket said:
I don't doubt that's the figure that's been released, it's just the suggestion that the ground wasn't too far off being half full is quite clearly a load of rubbish to anyone with eyes!
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47,518 - Capacity is 132,000.

So it was 36% full
 
Similiar to football games, attendance may have been counted with number of tickets sold/given away rather than the numbers through the gates. Alot of ticket holders probably just didnt turn up. India as host should have played the first game. Them playing on Sunday seems strange.
 
Saj said:
47,518 - Capacity is 132,000.

So it was 36% full
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The people who designed the stadium list it's capacity as 110,000 and the BCCI have declared multiple sell outs for games with attendances lower than that suggesting the capacity isn't really 132,000 (for cricket at least).
 
If Ravi Shastri who is the bcci cheerleader says it - shows how poor the bcci is organizing this world cup...

"" Former England opener Michael Atherton raised the same to Ravi Shastri on air, to which the former India coach had a similar point of view. "In the last few years, the hosts have started. England began against South Africa in 2019, England and Australia played the opener in 2015, and in 2011, India played Bangladesh. Isn't it sensible that the hosts should start because it guarantees a full house and give the tournament an immediate lift."

Shastri replied: "Absolutely, especially in a ground like this, which has a capacity of 1,10,000. I understand you want one of the former finalists to play, but at all costs, have a home team play. If this was India vs England, you would be guaranteed a full house. Even on a weekday, at least 70000-80000 people would have come in. It just adds that buzz. There is a build-up."
Source - Hindustan Times
 
90% of the stadium is empty, and some Indian posters said Pakistan would get huge support in Hyderabad because of the Muslim population, blah blah.
Considering the capacity of the stadium I don't think more than 10k people attended for Today's match. Yesterday's match in Ahmedabad was a lot better with 45 attending in the second half.
 
Yesterday's match had a pretty good live viewership, but today's match didn't even reach 50% of the viewership of the first match.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Melinda Farrell quoted a similar number. It's a huge stadium. eve if it is off by 10,000, it could still be record attendance for a World Cup opener.
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Mel Farrel also said she asked regularly and was consistently told 47k+ which is a pretty clear indication that it wasn't an actual count of how many were in the stadium.
 
Not that many people today also to watch Pakistan

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hafeezrocks said:
The Non Indian Matches clearly aren't selling in India so much so that the whole event looks like a farce, probably the worst start to a CWC.

Wouldn't it have made sense to share hosting rights with Neighbor's like Pakistan, Bangladesh and SL ?

A Pakistan - Afghanistan match/Pakistan -SL match/Pakistan- Netherlands match which is unlikely to get many takers in India if hosted in Pakistan will get good crowds.

Same goes for Afghanistan SL , SL Bangladesh , SL NZ , SL England matches in SL.

Or Bangladesh England, Bangladesh Australia matches in Dhaka.

Why become the solo host of an event when you are going to fail to sell it among your people ? Co-hosting worked well during the 96 and 2011 WC and it added more cultural flavors to the WC.

But now BCCI decided to do it all on its own and is failing to sell matches even between prominent teams.

If Indian matches are the only events that will see good crowds in India then let other neighbouring countries host their own, doing that atleast half the matches of the World Cup will be played in front of good audience.
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The other side of this discussion is, fine host the entire tournament but don't alienate fans. Up until the very start of this tournament there were angry Indian fans who couldn't get tickets...imagine what international fans must have gone through and simply given up.

This may end up being a worse world cup, at least from a fan stand point than 2007.
 
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no crowd today as well. will we see some after the 1st innings concludes?
 
It's pretty official. Cricket in India is on the wane. Yes the Indo-Pak match will be full but that's a one-off.

The 2011 WC victory was the end of history of ODI cricket.
 
HitWicket said:
Mel Farrel also said she asked regularly and was consistently told 47k+ which is a pretty clear indication that it wasn't an actual count of how many were in the stadium.
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You are simply arguing for the sake of it at this point. You even questioned the capacity of the stadium when it's very clear that it's 132,000.


If you actually read through that thread, youd see that she was there and said it was likely that these numbers were probably accurate towards the end.

She even mentioned that this was an issue with places like the MCG where even a 25,000 crowd looks miniscule on broadcast because it's only 25 % of the stadium capacity.

Sportstar reported on the eve of the
match that around 30,000 were expected at the stadium . It's clear that there had been attempts to incentivise more people to join the attendance and it's more than likely that these only added to the numbers .

You can make a point about the lack of organisation without resorting to such sophistry.


And , with due respect, you are English and so you are used to seeing hobbit sized grounds like Edgbaston with a capacity of 25000


36 % of that would around 9000 and it would look like the crowd is absolutely thin and there's no interest in the match.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
You are simply arguing for the sake of it at this point. You even questioned the capacity of the stadium when it's very clear that it's 132,000.
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If it's very clearly 132k then why have the stadium's architects always very clearly stated it's 110k, and why have there been sold out games at the venue where the attendance was announced as nowhere close to 132k? It's very clear that 132k is not the actual capacity of the stadium for cricket.

Nikhil_cric said:
If you actually read through that thread, youd see that she was there and said it was likely that these numbers were probably accurate towards the end.
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She said she'd asked multiple times and had been consistently told 47k+. The fact she was told that figure throughout the game shows that it wasn't an actual count of people who were in the stadium (unless you're claiming there were 47k+ in the stadium throughout the game).
 
HitWicket said:
If it's very clearly 132k then why have the stadium's architects always very clearly stated it's 110k, and why have there been sold out games at the venue where the attendance was announced as nowhere close to 132k? It's very clear that 132k is not the actual capacity of the stadium for cricket.



She said she'd asked multiple times and had been consistently told 47k+. The fact she was told that figure throughout the game shows that it wasn't an actual count of people who were in the stadium (unless you're claiming there were 47k+ in the stadium throughout the game).
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The 47 k figure was only at the end . And even if it's not , it's perfectly fine.

England couldn't draw more than 57,000 on a Day 1 MCG Boxing Day Ashes Test which was a holiday , a traditionally fierce rivalry involving the home side in a 100,000 + MCG. And rapidly dropped off after that.

Can we call MCG a failure and can we ban MCG from Ashes venues?

Basically 57%.

Theres no way there was going to be a massive crowd for a neutral match on a workday .
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Swathes of empty seats across the ground as both teams disperse after the formalities...

Swathes of empty seats across the ground as both teams disperse after the formalities...No love for Pakistan.
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Tbf cricket games are too long. I wouldn't take my family and make them sit in the heat for 8 hours.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
The 47 k figure was only at the end . And even if it's not , it's perfectly fine.

England couldn't draw more than 57,000 on a Day 1 MCG Boxing Day Ashes Test which was a holiday , a traditionally fierce rivalry involving the home side in a 100,000 + MCG. And rapidly dropped off after that.

Can we call MCG a failure and can we ban MCG from Ashes venues?

Basically 57%.

Theres no way there was going to be a massive crowd for a neutral match on a workday .
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Once again, Melinda Farrel said she asked regularly and was consistently told the 47k+ figure indicating it clearly wasn't the actual attendance but instead presumably some kind of ticket salesa/allocated total (giving them the benefit of the doubt that it isn't just completely made up).
 
As the tournament progresses and weather gets less warm, we will see more and more crowds coming to watch the world cup matches.
 
As confirmed by ICC - the attendance for today's match between Pakistan and Netherlands in Hyderabad was 9470
 
I have been very critical of BCCI with the way this WC is being managed, from ticketing fiasco to almost no marketing, but I gotta say that few things even they can't do anything about. Fact is unlike before, hardly anyone is watching WC matches, the thrill for ODIs is well over in India. Infact when i come to this forum, it feels like WC is going on, but otherwise on ground here in India, there's no excitement. I was in Chennai today for meetings and a couple of guys got tickets for India -Aus match but they aren't going. These are guys who in their teens were mad about cricket. People just don't have the time and enthusiasm to spend 8-9 hours in a cricket stadium, even if it's on weekend. Even the ones who are following WC closely, follow it mostly on internet tracking scores updates but the watch time isn't more than 30-60 mins for a game. It's so boring to watch 50 overs now.
 
www.dailymail.co.uk

Cricket World Cup in India opens to backdrop of empty seats

England are taking on New Zealand in a re-run of the thrilling 2019 50-over World Cup final - but local interest appeared to be lacking.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

lol Daily Mail saying only 4000 fans.

There were more but I also dont believe the ICC. Ive been to many sporting events , looked nowhere near 45k.

Lets be frank, Asian fans in stadiums dont know how to make an atmosphere compared to English fans, not even close.
 
KingKhanWC said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Cricket World Cup in India opens to backdrop of empty seats

England are taking on New Zealand in a re-run of the thrilling 2019 50-over World Cup final - but local interest appeared to be lacking.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

lol Daily Mail saying only 4000 fans.

There were more but I also dont believe the ICC. Ive been to many sporting events , looked nowhere near 45k.

Lets be frank, Asian fans in stadiums dont know how to make an atmosphere compared to English fans, not even close.
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That provided number looked suspecious to me too, it never looked like 45k.
 
Devadwal said:
There were 40-50K people's during NZ innings .more than any other ground in other countries except Australia .
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and???

You want full stadiums...
If you can't fill a 130k stadium then play the game that has 40k seats
 
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Another game where there is no crowd sitting in to watch the game. The Sri Lanka vs South Africa game is being played with very little to no crowd watching the game.
 
I don’t think Indians are interested in watching neutrals anymore.

Let’s just stop raising this issue and move on. ODI cricket is just not that popular anymore unfoetunately.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I don’t think Indians are interested in watching neutrals anymore.

Let’s just stop raising this issue and move on. ODI cricket is just not that popular anymore unfoetunately.
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I guess you are right. Neutral games will have very little to no crowd in the next matches as well. We have to wait for Indo-Pak clash to see a houseful.
 
IMMY69 said:
and???

You want full stadiums...
If you can't fill a 130k stadium then play the game that has 40k seats
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When pakistan hosts the tournament they can decide the venue.

India is hosting so its host's privilege to decide the venue.

As posted various times, a 47k attendance is good.
 
cricketjoshila said:
As posted various times, a 47k attendance is good.
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Because there was no 47k 'attendance'. Mel Farrell said she asked regularly and was told 47k+ consistently. The fact they declare the final attendance eary in the game is a clear indication that it's not a count of how many people were in the stadium, but presumably something like ticket sales/distributions. Similarily yesterday Cricinfo announced the official attendance for the game in the first innings.

That's also backed up by the fact that every other seat is clearly not nearly occupied here like a 47k attendance would suggest:
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The avg attendance at the 2015 WC in Australia was 21175.

The outrage over nothing here.
 
HitWicket said:
Because there was no 47k 'attendance'. Mel Farrell said she asked regularly and was told 47k+ consistently. The fact they declare the final attendance eary in the game is a clear indication that it's not a count of how many people were in the stadium, but presumably something like ticket sales/distributions. Similarily yesterday Cricinfo announced the official attendance for the game in the first innings.

That's also backed up by the fact that every other seat is clearly not nearly occupied here like a 47k attendance would suggest:
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ICC has said its 47k. That's the figure.

This is a 132k stadium. So 47k is one third full.
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC has said its 47k. That's the figure.
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Right, and I'm pointing out and providing you clear evidence that that figure is clearly not a count of how many people were in the stadium, which is what is being discussed in this thread. Ticket distributions aren't really relevant, especially when it's been widely published that a significant amount of tickets have been dished out for free.

cricketjoshila said:
ICC has said its 47k. That's the figure.

This is a 132k stadium. So 47k is one third full.
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The stadium has a capacity of 110k according to its designers and has previously been sold out with crowds far lower than 132k, it clearly doesn't hold 132k for cricket.

Regardless in the image there is obviously not 1 in 3 seats occupied let alone the nearly 1 in 2 it would be for the true capacity. Even someone as nationalistically blinded as yourself has to acknowledge that.
 
Whoever expecting decent crowd on weekdays for a 9 hr long game and most of the duration in extreme heat, is just being adamant on hating everything related to India. Weekends might show improvements ( that too at night ), not saying full house. Overall cricket is dying a slow death unless it is T20. That is the unfortunate thing.
 
HitWicket said:
Because there was no 47k 'attendance'. Mel Farrell said she asked regularly and was told 47k+ consistently. The fact they declare the final attendance eary in the game is a clear indication that it's not a count of how many people were in the stadium, but presumably something like ticket sales/distributions. Similarily yesterday Cricinfo announced the official attendance for the game in the first innings.

That's also backed up by the fact that every other seat is clearly not nearly occupied here like a 47k attendance would suggest:
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This pic does not prove whatever agenda driven point you are trying to make.

Unless you have a source that has done a head count and proved that the official number is bogus , there is no argument whatsoever.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
This grainy pic does not prove whatever agenda driven point you are trying to make.

Unless you have a source that has done a head count and proved that the official number is bogus , there is no argument whatsoever.
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The picture isn't the best of quality but is more than enough to see that nearly every other seat is not occupied. If wanting the pinnacle of world cricket to be organised at least semi-competently is an agenda then that is the agenda I have.
 
HitWicket said:
The picture isn't the best of quality but is more than enough to see that nearly every other seat is not occupied.
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Neary every other seat would mean 50% and they said 30% crowd was in and tbh looking at the pics it looks like 30%.
 
HitWicket said:
The picture isn't the best of quality but is more than enough to see that nearly every other seat is not occupied. If wanting the pinnacle of world cricket to be organised at least semi-competently is an agenda then that is the agenda I have.
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So basically you don't trust the official number since you don't THINK there's been a head count.

But a grainy pic you took off the Internet is good enough to prove your point?
 
HitWicket said:
The stadium profile from the people who designed it: https://populous.com/project/narendra-modi-stadium

The BCCI also boasted a sold out IPL final with an attendance of just under 110k.
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Really weird, between the builders of the stadium and the current Indian government I would choose the stadium builders then. Besides the builders would probably benefit more by saying that it seats 130k so no point in underselling it.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
So basically you don't trust the official number since you don't THINK there's been a head count.

But a grainy pic you took off the Internet is good enough to prove your point?
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How exactly do you propose they got a total head count for attendance for a game and announced it in the first innings? The only explanation for that is that it's not a head count of the people that attended but tickets sold/distributed (which is quite common in announcing football attendances). I would happily believe that.

The photo doesn't prove the exact attendance and I've never claimed it does, hence I've never stated one. It's simply a clear indication that nearly every other seat was not filled.
 
HitWicket said:
Right, and I'm pointing out and providing you clear evidence that that figure is clearly not a count of how many people were in the stadium, which is what is being discussed in this thread. Ticket distributions aren't really relevant, especially when it's been widely published that a significant amount of tickets have been dished out for free.



The stadium has a capacity of 110k according to its designers and has previously been sold out with crowds far lower than 132k, it clearly doesn't hold 132k for cricket.

Regardless in the image there is obviously not 1 in 3 seats occupied let alone the nearly 1 in 2 it would be for the true capacity. Even someone as nationalistically blinded as yourself has to acknowledge that.
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HitWicket said:
Right, and I'm pointing out and providing you clear evidence that that figure is clearly not a count of how many people were in the stadium, which is what is being discussed in this thread. Ticket distributions aren't really relevant, especially when it's been widely published that a significant amount of tickets have been dished out for free.



The stadium has a capacity of 110k according to its designers and has previously been sold out with crowds far lower than 132k, it clearly doesn't hold 132k for cricket.

Regardless in the image there is obviously not 1 in 3 seats occupied let alone the nearly 1 in 2 it would be for the true capacity. Even someone as nationalistically blinded as yourself has to acknowledge that.
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The stadium has a capacity of 132K and attendance was 47K.

Larsen and Toubro were the joint designers and constructed the stadium. What changes were made to the design to augment seating capacity isn't known to you or me.

When initial plans were made, it was to be a 110K stadium. But it was later altered to be a 132K stadium.

You know you can try to run your agenda by putting question marks on official ICC numbers etc. It isn't going to work.

Numbers have been announced and your agenda has fallen flat.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The stadium has a capacity of 132K and attendance was 47K.

Larsen and Toubro were the joint designers and constructed the stadium. What changes were made to the design to augment seating capacity isn't known to you or me.

When initial plans were made, it was to be a 110K stadium. But it was later altered to be a 132K stadium.

You know you can try to run your agenda by putting question marks on official ICC numbers etc. It isn't going to work.

Numbers have been announced and your agenda has fallen flat.
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Correct, Larsen and Toubro also played a part in the design and construction of the stadium. As with Populous they have only ever stated the capacity as being 110k:

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If you believe the capacity is 132k then I'd love to know your explanation for the sold out IPL final at the stadium with an attendance of just over 100k.

You've been given clear proof that the attendance figures announced by the ICC aren't based on the amount of people currently in the ground. If you want to ignore that then that's on you.
 
HitWicket said:
Correct, Larsen and Toubro also played a part in the design and construction of the stadium. As with Populous they have only ever stated the capacity as being 110k:

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If you believe the capacity is 132k then I'd love to know your explanation for the sold out IPL final at the stadium with an attendance of just over 100k.

You've been given clear proof that the attendance figures announced by the ICC aren't based on the amount of people currently in the ground. If you want to ignore that then that's on you.
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As per the official gujarat cricket association website the capacity is 1.30 lakh

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gujaratcricketassociation.com

Narendra Modi Stadium - Narendra Modi Stadium

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ex-q-zit said:
As per the official gujarat cricket association website the capacity is 1.30 lakh

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gujaratcricketassociation.com

Narendra Modi Stadium - Narendra Modi Stadium

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I suspect the 130k is something like a concert capacity or probably something silly like if they took out all the screens and filled in the sight screens/ground access points with additional seating. The fact that both the designers involved with the construction of the stadium list it at 110k and there have been sold out games at the ground with an attendance below 110k show pretty clearly that the capacity for cricket is not 130k.
 
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