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ICC World Cup 2023: Pakistan (286 all out) easily beat Netherlands (205 all out) by 81 runs in Hyderabad

Saj said:
Haris Rauf celebrating at the end as if he had dismissed AB de Villiers - very cringeworthy.
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No he was celebrating cause both of them were having unnecessary and unprofessional beef. Rauf got tonked for a 4 on the last ball but he came back with a wicket signaling how he got the last laugh.

The nedtherland batsmen( Forgot his name) started it. Rauf did the right thing.
 
Great win at the end, good comeback by bowlers. Pakistan total was 20 to 30 runs short but what can you expecf when openers do not give you a start.
 
mominsaigol said:
No he was celebrating cause both of them were having unnecessary and unprofessional beef. Rauf got tonked for a 4 on the last ball but he came back with a wicket signaling how he got the last laugh.

The nedtherland batsmen( Forgot his name) started it. Rauf did the right thing.
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Thought beef was banned in India...both players need to be every careful!
 
NeVerMind said:
Thought beef was banned in India...both players need to be every careful!
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We are in India, a nation that has doodoo on their seats for viewers to watch, I think rules went put the window bro. This is a country that can't even organise a professional opening ceremony lol.
 
According to fall of wickets, their initial batters were good compared to us but NED lacks batting depth. We need to consistently post 350 scores, teams like India and Australia will eat us Raw and wont even spare our bones. Need to target 375 against india if we bat first.
 
Pakistan went on to win by 81 runs against Netherlands in the second clash of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 on 6 October in Hyderabad.

Hyderabad bore witness to a brilliant display from the Pakistan bowling attack in the second half of the Netherlands innings. While the Dutch were still pretty much in their pursuit of 287 for victory until the 23rd over, the Men in Green struck at regular intervals thereafter to take the game away from them.

Haris Rauf was the pick of Pakistan bowlers, with his 3/43, while Hasan Ali picked up two wickets of his own.

In the first innings, Pakistan were all out for 286 in 49 overs. Their innings was powered by two big partnerships, for the fourth and seventh wicket respectively. Bas de Leede starred for the Dutch with his 4/62.

Match 2: Pakistan win by 81 runs against Netherlands
After the 20-over mark, Pakistan managed to get a grip of the game. Shadab Khan broke the threatening stand between Vikramjit Singh and de Leede in the 24th over. Vikramjit (52) swiped one towards the legside and ended up gifting a catch in the deep.

However, it was Rauf's double-wicket over that truly brought the game back into Pakistan's side. Rauf bounced out Teja Nidamanuru and then trapped the Dutch captain Scott Edwards in a space of three balls.

From the other end, de Leede waged a relentless battle and continued going for his shots. He reached his half-century in the 28th over. However, his lone struggle came to an end in the 34th over, when he was bowled by Mohammed Nawaz. De Leede scored 67 from 68, hitting six fours and two sixes during his innings.

Despite some lusty blows from the bat of Logan van Beek, the Netherlands tail was cleaned up by the 41 over mark.

Earlier, Left-handed batter Vikramjit provided Netherlands a stable start. He hit a flurry of boundaries to get them to 28 without loss at the five over mark. However, the Dutch lost a wicket soon after, when Max O' Dowd (5) fell in an attempt to pull Hasan Ali for a six. All-rounder Colin Ackermann tried to keep the run flow going along with Vikramjit, but fell soon after the first Powerplay. He went for a sweep against Iftikhar Ahmed in the 12th over, and ended up missing the ball, which crashed into his middle stump.

After the midway stage of the Pakistan innings, Netherlands retained control with a flurry of wickets. Sensing a need to change the pace of Pakistan scoring rate, Scott Edwards summoned off-spinner Aryan Dutt back into the attack in the 29th over. And the tweaker delivered immediately by getting the better of the dangerous Shakeel (68). Shakeel went for a sweep, but then checked his shot at the final moment. Ending up in two minds, the southpaw flicked the ball towards the mid-wicket region, where he was caught by Saqib Zulfiqar.

Not much later, Mohammed Rizwan was overcome by de Leede, who smashed straight into the top of his off stump. De Leede also had the dangerous Iftikhar Ahmed in the same over. Pakistan were six down at the end of the 32nd over.

Pakistan's scoring rate took a hit, even as the late-order tried to rebuild the innings once more. Mohammed Nawaz and Shadab Khan took their time to settle in before lifting the scoring rate. Their 64 run stand came off 70 balls. It was ended by de Leede who cleaned up Shadab in the 44th over. De Leede trapped Hasan Ali lbw off the very next ball to further dent Pakistan.

Pakistan added 34 runs for the last two wickets but couldn't finish their quota of overs. After having been 143/3 at the midway mark, Pakistan scored the exact same runs over the next 24 overs, while also losing their remaining wickets.

At the start of the innings, Fakhar Zaman and Imam-ul-Haq found the going tough on a surface where the ball was holding its line on occasions and taking turn on other. Edwards got it right with his bowling combinations, alternating between spinners like Aryan Dutt and Colin Ackermann and the wily pace of Logan van Beek and Paul van Meekeren.

The result was three important wickets in the Powerplay overs. Fakhar was the first to go, falling for 12 after gifting van Beek a return catch. Babar's stay at the crease was hardly satisfying, as the batter was buckled down by the Dutch spinners. He mistimed a pull against Ackermann and fell for five. Imam was the last to go, playing one shot too many and gifting a catch to Aryan Dutt at fine leg in the 10th over.

The fourth wicket pair of Rizwan and Shakeel adopted an attacking policy to get the innings going once again, and found success in the initial stages of the second Powerplay. Between overs 11-20, Pakistan managed to score at just below run a over. There was a visible change of tactic, especially from Shakeel, who plundered a number of boundaries to reach his half-century off merely 32 balls. This is the second-fastest fifty for Pakistan in the history of the Men's Cricket World Cup.

The duo brought up their 100-run partnership in the 25th over.

Netherlands skipper Scott Edwards called it right at the toss and the Dutch opted to field against Babar Azam's Pakistan. Edwards took the call based on the belief that the wicket would probably ease under the lights. Pakistan have a perfect head-to-head record of 6-0 over Netherlands in the ODI format.

Fast start the aim for Pakistan, Netherlands in Hyderabad
Abdullah Shafique, who featured in the warm-up fixtures leading into the tournament, found no place as Pakistan went for their usual top three, comprising of Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq and Babar Azam. In the bowling department, pacers Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf are supported by Hasan Ali, while Shadab Khan and Mohammed Nawaz are the spinners.

While Netherlands might not have the biggest of names, they have shown their mettle in the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Qualifier 2023. The Dutch don't bank on one particular name, and this has shown in their recent triumphs, where players across the board have contributed. The European side are bolstered by the presence of a number of all-round options in their ranks.

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FreakCricket said:
According to fall of wickets, their initial batters were good compared to us but NED lacks batting depth. We need to consistently post 350 scores, teams like India and Australia will eat us Raw and wont even spare our bones. Need to target 375 against india if we bat first.
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Man this is world cup not warm up matches how often in world cups you see teams chasing down 300 plus not too often so 290 around that is a match winning score
 
Saj said:
Haris Rauf celebrating at the end as if he had dismissed AB de Villiers - very cringeworthy.
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I think this is criticism for the sake of criticism.

Its funny to see how quickly we have forgotten that we were losing at one point and Haris changed the match with his spell.

He bowls with heart and he plays with passion. I honestly wish more players are like him. Playing for PK is a privilege and Haris is embodiment of this.
 
FreakCricket said:
Shows your and haris rauf (fighting with Netherland's tail ender) mindset of a minnow basher. Grow up and set better standards.
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Ven meekeen was scolded by both hasan ali and haris rauf .He must have done some sledging in first inning with any one of them
 
Moiza said:
I think this is criticism for the sake of criticism.

Its funny to see how quickly we have forgotten that we were losing at one point and Haris changed the match with his spell.

He bowls with heart and he plays with passion. I honestly wish more players are like him. Playing for PK is a privilege and Haris is embodiment of this.
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exactly i think in first inning meekeen was involved in any altercation with one of them which led to reponse from hasan and rauf
 
Technics 1210 said:
Where are the haters who said Netherlands would beat Pakistan?

I bet they were doing cartwheels and bhangra when Pakistan were 36/3.

Ha. Ha. Ha.
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It was astonishing to see both people here and commentators making Netherlands sound like they will walk all over Pakistan. I heard someone say they just need to see off first 10 overs and they they will chase the score easily. Lol
 
Marooned said:
What about cooper? The guy who scored the most vs us in that odi series?
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Cooper isn't in their plans now I guess. He didn't play the ODI qualifier nor the T20 WC Qualifier (which happened right after the ODI Qualifier for Europe region), So I think it's unlikely that he will play for Netherlands again.
 
I’m glad we won this game - whether they’ll win many more remains to be seen.
 
Posters needs to be a bit balanced. A win is a win. The points matter. Shadab is not good enough, that has nothing to do with hate or what ever. The batting (top 3) really need to deliver/get a move on. You cant compete with such a top order.
 
Right guys, no matter what you say but I think this is a good win for Pakistan. Netherlands are very kuch capable of causing an upset in the tournament and today could well have been that day... Pakistan have had poor starts to their last 2 WC campaigns... So this is a welcome change.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Against a team like Nederlands should be a 300+ score every time. The batting top order once again failed, how will they manage against top class opposition?
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Pakistan was looking good to post 300+ when Shadab and Nawaz were playing but then two wickets off two balls halt their progress.
 
FreakCricket said:
According to fall of wickets, their initial batters were good compared to us but NED lacks batting depth. We need to consistently post 350 scores, teams like India and Australia will eat us Raw and wont even spare our bones. Need to target 375 against india if we bat first.
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This is long tournament.Some teams will peak too early and others will peak later on.India and Australia are good teams but can the maintain the intensity throughout the tournament?.I was sure England were going to thrash NZ but the opposite happened.
 
It's fine.

Should have been a bigger win, but a lot of you must remember when we lost to Ireland.

Still not a big deal in the grand scheme.
 
Some of the posters here just can’t handle it when the team gets criticised. It’s actually quite sad to be honest.

We were struggling to get past 270 and couldn’t bat our full 50 overs against a team of players that play the sport as their part time job lol.

Even if we had won by 1 run vs Netherlands, a small minority of our fans would be doing bhangra and completely ignoring all the negatives from the game.
 
hassan918 said:
Pakistan was looking good to post 300+ when Shadab and Nawaz were playing but then two wickets off two balls halt their progress.
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That just reinforces my point which you are quoting. We shouldn't be relying on bowlers who can bat a bit to post a 300+ total. We need top order batsmen to play like top order batsmen and take responsibility for making the majority of the runs. This was Nederlands for goodness sake. What will they do when they come up against NZ, England or Australia?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That just reinforces my point which you are quoting. We shouldn't be relying on bowlers who can bat a bit to post a 300+ total. We need top order batsmen to play like top order batsmen and take responsibility for making the majority of the runs. This was Nederlands for goodness sake. What will they do when they come up against NZ, England or Australia?
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Unfortunately, the end result flatters to deceive for Pakistan. Netherlands really did push us, and at one time looked really good to win it but then collapsed in a heap.

Fakhar failed.

Shadab failed.

Shaheen couldn’t impress in his new ball spell.

The issues are still the same, and Sri Lanka will look to expose these issues on the 10th.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Unfortunately, the end result flatters to deceive for Pakistan. Netherlands really did push us, and at one time looked really good to win it but then collapsed in a heap.

Fakhar failed.

Shadab failed.

Shaheen couldn’t impress in his new ball spell.

The issues are still the same, and Sri Lanka will look to expose these issues on the 10th.
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Not just that bro.

Imam is proving why he's clearly not international standards. Worst case scenario he fails. Best case scenario his 100 of 130 ain't helping anyone.

Babar is proving that he's a dud on spinning pitches.

Rizzu isn't bad but he's a platform builder. He's clearly not a no 4, and someone like saud deserves it more.

Chacha as a lower order bat is a concern, he seems clueless, he isn't a finisher he blocks and blocks and waits for people to arch it into the slot.

Shadab, Nawaz are hilarious lower order batsmen.

Our entire batting unit is a mess.

Only good thing is that rizzu is proving to be consistent and saud is proving to be the best find for Pakistan and both batsmen are clearly enjoying spin. Rauf is also finding his wicket taking form again, but Rauf has always been expensive, no naseem means he isn't complimented very well by shaheen.
 
Victory, points on the board, blah blah.

With that out of the way, some analysis

Batting:
If we are going to gift wickets in the first few overs, let’s feign an injury Fakhar or Imam or both and bring in Haris to open.

Babar at 3 not ideal but that’s all we’ve got

Saud should 100% play at 4. If he comes at 5 it’s too hard to undo all the tuk tuk that will precede his introduction.

Riz at 5

Rest, no idea
 
mominsaigol said:
No he was celebrating cause both of them were having unnecessary and unprofessional beef. Rauf got tonked for a 4 on the last ball but he came back with a wicket signaling how he got the last laugh.

The nedtherland batsmen( Forgot his name) started it. Rauf did the right thing.
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Would love to see the same aggression from Pakistan against some of the top teams.
 
Moiza said:
I think this is criticism for the sake of criticism.

Its funny to see how quickly we have forgotten that we were losing at one point and Haris changed the match with his spell.

He bowls with heart and he plays with passion. I honestly wish more players are like him. Playing for PK is a privilege and Haris is embodiment of this.
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It was embarrassing seeing him act like that.

It was a Netherlands tailender he had dismissed, not Kohli, Gill, Rohit etc.
 
mominsaigol said:
No he was celebrating cause both of them were having unnecessary and unprofessional beef. Rauf got tonked for a 4 on the last ball but he came back with a wicket signaling how he got the last laugh.

The nedtherland batsmen( Forgot his name) started it. Rauf did the right thing.
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The Netherlands tailenders were literally laughing at Rauf and the way he was behaving.
 
I think this is a decent result for Pakistan. Netherlands can upset any big team in the tournament. I hope they finish above Aghanistan.
 
Moiza said:
I think this is criticism for the sake of criticism.

Its funny to see how quickly we have forgotten that we were losing at one point and Haris changed the match with his spell.

He bowls with heart and he plays with passion. I honestly wish more players are like him. Playing for PK is a privilege and Haris is embodiment of this.
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That would have been dispatched to second row if it wasn't a Minor team, that was stupid short ball that got him breakthrough.
 
Moiza said:
I think this is criticism for the sake of criticism.

Its funny to see how quickly we have forgotten that we were losing at one point and Haris changed the match with his spell.

He bowls with heart and he plays with passion. I honestly wish more players are like him. Playing for PK is a privilege and Haris is embodiment of this.
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Average speed 146 today in this heat. Great effort.
 
mominsaigol said:
Not just that bro.

Imam is proving why he's clearly not international standards. Worst case scenario he fails. Best case scenario his 100 of 130 ain't helping anyone.

Babar is proving that he's a dud on spinning pitches.

Rizzu isn't bad but he's a platform builder. He's clearly not a no 4, and someone like saud deserves it more.

Chacha as a lower order bat is a concern, he seems clueless, he isn't a finisher he blocks and blocks and waits for people to arch it into the slot.

Shadab, Nawaz are hilarious lower order batsmen.

Our entire batting unit is a mess.

Only good thing is that rizzu is proving to be consistent and saud is proving to be the best find for Pakistan and both batsmen are clearly enjoying spin. Rauf is also finding his wicket taking form again, but Rauf has always been expensive, no naseem means he isn't complimented very well by shaheen.
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I never understood why so many here wanted chacha to play. The guy is a Misbah clone.
 
TheSultan said:
Victory, points on the board, blah blah.

With that out of the way, some analysis

Batting:
If we are going to gift wickets in the first few overs, let’s feign an injury Fakhar or Imam or both and bring in Haris to open.

Babar at 3 not ideal but that’s all we’ve got

Saud should 100% play at 4. If he comes at 5 it’s too hard to undo all the tuk tuk that will precede his introduction.

Riz at 5

Rest, no idea
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Glad you are happy :D
 
Nice of the reporter to refer to Pakistan as side similar to New Zealand!

Question:

The knock was good, so what are the plans for the next match? Because New Zealand, it's going to be an equally challenging team in terms of bowling. It's more or less like Pakistan side.

[Bas De Leede:]

Yeah. They beat England quite comfortably the other day, which was great to see from a cricketing point of view. I really enjoyed watching that but you know it I think every team in this competition has a quality bowling attack, so I'm sure it probably is a mixture of coming up with a game plan and prepare for that. Obviously, you've got Henry at the start who's been excellent and then Trent Boult, similar to Shaheen probably. Lockie Ferguson probably similar to Haris Rauf. So, a lot of similarities, but I think we'll take our learnings from this game and then try and adapt for next game.
 
Glad we won today.

Hopefully our top order will hit form when it really matters....

I said our total was like 200 but I also said we can defend a total of 200 against the Dutch...

BUT against any top side we simply have to do better specially if the wickets and conditions remain like this.
 
I didn't bother watching the game today since I have no belief in Pakistan hierarchy as it's all up for sale these days, but was quite comical watching the highlights. Saud Shakil actually looks like a batsman, we already know Babar is and so is Rizwan. On what basis the rest were picked I'm still not sure. Do we think we are playing the T20 World Cup?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I didn't bother watching the game today since I have no belief in Pakistan hierarchy as it's all up for sale these days, but was quite comical watching the highlights. Saud Shakil actually looks like a batsman, we already know Babar is and so is Rizwan. On what basis the rest were picked I'm still not sure. Do we think we are playing the T20 World Cup?
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Curious - what does this mean?
 
Good win in the end but any of NZ ENG AUS IND would have chased 286 in 40 overs against us.
 
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