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ICC World Cup 2023: This is already a great World Cup and could be the GOAT of all World Cups!

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We are only 5-6 matches in but we've already seen Rachin and Conway play great knocks, Rauf bowl a great spell after Netherlands threatened PAK, SL launch an amazing fightback after SA scored 3 classy tons and now India 3 down while chasing 200.

Already more memorable moments with proper ebb and flow ODI cricket than so called high quality 2019 World Cup which at this stage was a complete dud with one sided finishes.

Keep in mind, this is only about quality of cricket on show and not about organisation of World Cup and crowds etc. That was poor , no question about it.

But for the sheer quality of cricket , it's going to trump all recent World Cups for sure and , most likely, all World Cups of the past.

Stupendous ride ahead :murali
 
It seems like high scoring worldcup. And I generally don’t like high scoring games.
Sir, in the last 36 hours, you've seen 156 as a first innings score and now 200 look like being defended. How is that high-scoring?

It is just a good diversity of conditions.
 
This is literally only the 5th match which is still in progress mind you, where did your 6th match come from?

It's already a great tournament based on only less than 10% of matches being played? You're implying the quality of the remaning games will only go up, dangerous move.

None of the completed matches which is a mind blowling 4 btw were close or even went into the last couple overs, random thread tbf.
 
Sir, in the last 36 hours, you've seen 156 as a first innings score and now 200 look like being defended. How is that high-scoring?

It is just a good diversity of conditions.
Also , only the Saffer match had scores above 300. What high scoring Cup? :inti
 
This is literally only the 5th match which is still in progress mind you, where did your 6th match come from?

It's already a great tournament based on only less than 10% of matches being played? You're implying the quality of the remaning games will only go up, dangerous move.

None of the completed matches which is a mind blowling 4 btw were close or even went into the last couple overs, random thread tbf.
I said at this stage , it's already than the previous Cup. 2nd part is me predicting that it will be a great Cup. The initial trend is great
 
Sir, in the last 36 hours, you've seen 156 as a first innings score and now 200 look like being defended. How is that high-scoring?

It is just a good diversity of conditions.

Yeah you’re right. But that Afghanistan match was more of a brainfart by their batsman then the magic of pitch and conditions
 
Yeah you’re right. But that Afghanistan match was more of a brainfart by their batsman then the magic of pitch and conditions
Even Bangla were 2 down quickly and many catches were dropped, run outs missed etc. It could have been very competitive with some luck.
 
I said at this stage , it's already than the previous Cup. 2nd part is me predicting that it will be a great Cup. The initial trend is great

How were the first 4 games of the 2023 WC not also one sided finishes like 2019?
 
You said the 4 completed games were'nt one sided finishes like 2019, how were the first 4 games NOT one sided finishes?
The opposition was in the game at various times in all the matches This was never the case for any match in the previous World Cup at a similar stage .

When Asalanka was going great guns, even SL looked like giving SA a scare
 
What a random thread.

Talk about clutching at straws.

2019WC had classics like New Zealand v West Indies and New Zealand v South Africa. Nothing here has even come close to both games, let alone arguably the best final ever in a World Cup.
 
What a random thread.

Talk about clutching at straws.

2019WC had classics like New Zealand v West Indies and New Zealand v South Africa. Nothing here has even come close to both games, let alone arguably the best final ever in a World Cup.
We've seen so far 5/48 games.

Last World Cup had a few crackers, but a lot of very uncompetitive games too. In fact vast majority of games were easily won by the favourite.
 
What a random thread.

Talk about clutching at straws.

2019WC had classics like New Zealand v West Indies and New Zealand v South Africa. Nothing here has even come close to both games, let alone arguably the best final ever in a World Cup.
Those were the first 5 games of the tournament ? I said at the same stage. A few good matches are there in every World Cup.

Everybody here was complaining that the Top 4 was very certain until England lost to SL.
 
How is it a great World Cup?

All games prior to this game have been one-sided affairs. There were Dharmasala ground debacle, ticket issue, late scheduling etc. This has been a flop so far.

1996, 1999, 2011, and 2019 World Cups were way better.
 
We've seen so far 5/48 games.

Last World Cup had a few crackers, but a lot of very uncompetitive games too. In fact vast majority of games were easily won by the favourite.

Those were the first 5 games of the tournament ? I said at the same stage. A few good matches are there in every World Cup.

Everybody here was complaining that the Top 4 was very certain until England lost to SL.
Exactly why I don’t understand making a thread about this five games into the tournament?

Desperate attempt to mask the poor organization and marketing from the BCCI, and make yourself feel better?

Atleast wait till you have had 20-25 games before making such claims lol
 
Exactly why I don’t understand making a thread about this five games into the tournament?

Desperate attempt to mask the poor organization and marketing from the BCCI, and make yourself feel better?

Atleast wait till you have had 20-25 games before making such claims lol
Im only talking about the quality of the cricket , nothing else. Rest is a prediction on my part based on the initial trends.
 
Im only talking about the quality of the cricket , nothing else. Rest is a prediction on my part based on the initial trends.
Fact of the matter is that this has been a flop so far, what with people not bothering to turn up for neutral games.

Indians on social media proclaiming they don’t even care about cricket, when the biggest tournament in sport is happening in their country.

Massive failure on the part of BCCI and ICC both. They are relying on an inevitable one-sided game on the 14th to revive interest in this tournament.
 
Fact of the matter is that this has been a flop so far, what with people not bothering to turn up for neutral games.

Indians on social media proclaiming they don’t even care about cricket, when the biggest tournament in sport is happening in their country.

Massive failure on the part of BCCI and ICC both. They are relying on an inevitable one-sided game on the 14th to revive interest in this tournament.
I've clearly mentioned in the OP that this is only about the cricket in the matches. If there is any reason to say that the matches in and of themselves have been of a poor standard, you are most welcome to comment on what you didn't like. The scope of the thread is not about the crowd, marketing , organising etc.
There are other threads for that.
 
Too early. But if we have more bat/ball balance I'll enjoy it a lot more. 2015 WC was heavily tilted in favor of batsmen, was so bored in that tournament.
 
Idk about goat of all world cups, ik for sure the final of 2023 ain't topping the 2019 Final.

That final was probably the best match I've ever seen.
 
The best World Cup up to the final was the 1999 World Cup. Very closely fought, great balance between bat and ball.
 
2011 World Cup was my favorite, I think cricket's popularity, fandom, craze, media hype peaked in that tournament. Mohali semifinal was probably the most hyped sporting contest across all sports. Been downhill since then, franchise cricket has taken over at full pace.
 
Fair to say we saw the best match of the tournament tonight .

There should be many more to go.

Let’s keep a track
 
little or not hype of the world cup.

Atleast when the World Cup was co hosted in the subcontinent, there was a massive hype in 4 countries that spilled over everywhere.

Admit it, Cricket World cup is only fun when its co hosted
 
Yes with the crowds this WC has drawn in, it can certainly be the “GOAT of all World Cups” :rolleyes:
 
Yes with the crowds this WC has drawn in, it can certainly be the “GOAT of all World Cups” :rolleyes:
Yes with the crowds this WC has drawn in, it can certainly be the “GOAT of all World Cups” :rolleyes:
little or not hype of the world cup.

Atleast when the World Cup was co hosted in the subcontinent, there was a massive hype in 4 countries that spilled over everywhere.

Admit it, Cricket World cup is only fun when its co hosted
Clearly, your comprehension skills are lacking. I have clearly said this is only on the basis of cricket being played. Please read the OP again.
 
This is going to be one of the best ever world cup. Some fan's can cry about it but only this can only makes little stronger
 
Clearly, your comprehension skills are lacking. I have clearly said this is only on the basis of cricket being played. Please read the OP again.
I'm not interested in what filters you use to assess this World Cup as a tournament that "could be the goat of all world cups". I'm more concerned about this statement.

The point stands, this WC isn't even in the running based on the crowds we've seen so far.

Also how did Jarvo get on to the ground? The security has been questionable so far as well.
 
The greatest of all World Cup was 1999. Nothing compares in quality due to all the legends and greats of the game plus the competition and some of the most memorable games and upsets in its duration. The overall even contests between bat and ball and basically all skills equally shining (batting, fast bowling, spin bowling, fielding).. nothing since then compares personally
 
I'm not interested in what filters you use to assess this World Cup as a tournament that "could be the goat of all world cups". I'm more concerned about this statement.

The point stands, this WC isn't even in the running based on the crowds we've seen so far.

Also how did Jarvo get on to the ground? The security has been questionable so far as well.
Ok, then make another thread about it. This only about the cricket on the pitch, please.
 
Mr Nikhil has been trying hard in various threads to claim how this WC is so great (for the obvious reasons) so this thread comes with no surprise, also probably just high on nationalism octane from today's good win I assume :)

If anything it has rather been a boring run so far with disappointing crowd. Several other world up started off with much better exciting games on sporting wickets better crowds, unlike flat roads and half empty grounds. 92, 99, 19 come to mind which were fantastic WCs. Long way to go for this world cup.
 
Focusing solely on the what happens in the field, hasn’t been great honestly.

5 completed games, absolutely 5 one-sided affairs with only the Dutch - Pakistan game shaping up to be competitive for a majority of the game (which was later not to be).

I honestly feel the high scoring wickets and high variety of conditions won’t make for a great competition. Prove me wrong.

Ofcourse, the organizers shouldnt be blamed for how the results pan out, though i wished their was consistency in pitch conditions and them not being too batting friendly
 
GOAT for me was the 87 WC, got hazy memories of it, but it was the WC that broke Imperial England's monopoly on hosting rights and chance to show the world brown men could come together, forget rivalries and organise a world class event...
 
Mr Nikhil has been trying hard in various threads to claim how this WC is so great (for the obvious reasons) so this thread comes with no surprise, also probably just high on nationalism octane from today's good win I assume :)

If anything it has rather been a boring run so far with disappointing crowd. Several other world up started off with much better exciting games on sporting wickets better crowds, unlike flat roads and half empty grounds. 92, 99, 19 come to mind which were fantastic WCs. Long way to go for this world cup.
This is purely about the cricket on the pitch. You have made your points about the crowds several times. And if it's so necessary to vent some more, do go ahead and make another thread to criticise the organisation and crowds at the World Cup and post there to your heart's content.

Also, it's amazing how the best Top 3 in the world, led by the No.1 ODI batter could not score even 300 against a Holland attack, boasting the great mystery spinner Aryan Dutt and a couple of other legends on a supposedly ultra flat pitch when the same batsmen were making 340 + in Lahore and Rawalpindi against better attacks.

I'm sure as a result of your fine British education , you can do enough mental gymastics to justify that and I'm sure you will enrich this thread with your high IQ insights but let's not bring crowds and organisation to a thread that I've clearly delineated to be a thread purely based on the actual Cricket.

Thanks.
 
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This is going to be one of the best ever world cup. Some fan's can cry about it but only this can only makes little stronger
Just because it’s in India?

Even cricket wise, this has been boring so far. I expect Pakistan or South Africa to make it interesting by under-performing against one of the weaker teams.
 
Ever since T20 came along, I don’t think any of the 50 over world cups can even come close to being the “best ever” to be quite honest. The quality and balance of ODIs have been off for a while now and nobody seems to want to talk about it
 
5 out of 45 matches complete, and this WC is a GOAT? We haven't had the opening ceremony yet!

I can guarantee you if India had lost today then this thread would not exist.

WC is not just about the pitches; close matches (right down to the wire), the atmosphere, the crowd, the logistics, the shock results, the commentary, and lets not forget the weather - all make a contribution too.

Thus far 2023 is not holding a candle to 2019, let alone any WC in the past.
 
5 out of 45 matches complete, and this WC is a GOAT? We haven't had the opening ceremony yet!

I can guarantee you if India had lost today then this thread would not exist.

WC is not just about the pitches; close matches (right down to the wire), the atmosphere, the crowd, the logistics, the shock results, the commentary, and lets not forget the weather - all make a contribution too.

Thus far 2023 is not holding a candle to 2019, let alone any WC in the past.
I made this thread when India was 2 runs for the loss of 3 wickets, right about when you were celebrating our impending loss.
 
I made this thread when India was 2 runs for the loss of 3 wickets, right about when you were celebrating our impending loss.

As if you thought India were going to win from 2/3, did you update this thread when Kohli was dropped too? You were craving for flat wickets!

Please update this thread when India win their next match.

🤣🤣🤣
 
As if you thought India were going to win from 2/3, did you update this thread when Kohli was dropped too? You were craving for flat wickets!

Please update this thread when India win their next match.

🤣🤣🤣
You can't update any post after 2 minutes, bud. Only mods can. So yeah I haven't updated anything :)
 
I have loved the tournament so far.
Yeah, it's good, but pitches should be more competitive.

Currently most matches seem quite one sided so hopefully in the upcoming games we will see some more competitive games.
 
You can't do that either assuming you are talking about thread title
Jeez, I am clearly talking about you adding posts to this thread every time India wins.

Which part of updating this thread when India wins are you not getting?
 
Jeez, I am clearly talking about you adding posts to this thread every time India wins.

Which part of updating this thread when India wins are you not getting?
Lol OK. So the fact that i created this thread when India looked like they were losing has no significance :)) Kuch bhi.
 
Lol OK. So the fact that i created this thread when India looked like they were losing has no significance :)) Kuch bhi.
Well you also claimed in the OP that 6 matches have been played in this WC thus far.

I guess you lost your bearings at 2/3
 
Great World Cup today Netherlands v nz 2 of the most entertaining teams in cricket history played in some slum in India infront of a couple of people & there pet elephant/giraffes, on a doctored pitch !!
 
This is purely about the cricket on the pitch. You have made your points about the crowds several times. And if it's so necessary to vent some more, do go ahead and make another thread to criticise the organisation and crowds at the World Cup and post there to your heart's content.

Also, it's amazing how the best Top 3 in the world, led by the No.1 ODI batter could not score even 300 against a Holland attack, boasting the great mystery spinner Aryan Dutt and a couple of other legends on a supposedly ultra flat pitch when the same batsmen were making 340 + in Lahore and Rawalpindi against better attacks.

I'm sure as a result of your fine British education , you can do enough mental gymastics to justify that and I'm sure you will enrich this thread with your high IQ insights but let's not bring crowds and organisation to a thread that I've clearly delineated to be a thread purely based on the actual Cricket.

Thanks.

Quite a comical response just to attack Pakistani team and some else's IQ. Did I say anything to Indian team here? We were talking about world cup so be sensible enough to keep discussion to that instead of bringing in random games to patch up your hurt feelings.

After 5 games you already labelled this WC as Goat, when tournament hasn't even reached half or even quarter way through, that's really illogical so people having a go here and questioning/mocking this thread is called for. Anyone with reasonable IQ wouldn't jump the gun just yet to call tournaments "bakri🐐" when it has just started so hold on to your horses and feelings. And no I am not in UK so don't go testing your IQ further.

As for Pakistani team, yes give them the flattest of flat pitches and they can even collapse there so lol don't really understand what you tried to do there. We know our team and don't live in lala land like our padosis.
 
Margins of Victory:

1) 9 wickets.
2) 81 runs.
3) 6 wickets.
4) 102 runs.
5) 6 wickets.

Don't know what the OP is on about in terms of quality, etc. They've all been relatively one-sided contests. Sure, the losing team has occasionally gotten a partnership going or a few quick wickets, but you'd expect them to - they're playing in a WC.

Rauf's spell is forgettable compared to his past heroics, Kohli's innings last night will barely be a footnote in his wider career. Other than NZ openers popping off, nothing significant has happened.
 
Quite a comical response just to attack Pakistani team and some else's IQ. Did I say anything to Indian team here? We were talking about world cup so be sensible enough to keep discussion to that instead of bringing in random games to patch up your hurt feelings.

After 5 games you already labelled this WC as Goat, when tournament hasn't even reached half or even quarter way through, that's really illogical so people having a go here and questioning/mocking this thread is called for. Anyone with reasonable IQ wouldn't jump the gun just yet to call tournaments "bakri🐐" when it has just started so hold on to your horses and feelings. And no I am not in UK so don't go testing your IQ further.

As for Pakistani team, yes give them the flattest of flat pitches and they can even collapse there so lol don't really understand what you tried to do there. We know our team and don't live in lala land like our padosis.
So, England and Pakistan could not score more than 280 but the pitches were extremely flat?
 
Tbf guys, This world cup has been good. South Africa gave us an entertainment, Nz gave us a solid game. My only issue so far is that all games have been one sided, I thought Australia vs India would break that mould but ig not.

Most fun world cup for me was defo 2019, the final was just too good.

Best trophy was ct 2017 and I am not saying that as a Pakistani fan, I'm saying that generally cause even if you aren't from Pakistan, the narrative of a no 8 team that everyone thought were losers and the weakest team in the tournament and suffered the most humiliating defeat by India, Came back and met India in the finals and gave them a humiliating defeat. It felt more like something you see in an anime and not irl.

Most boring world cup was 2015 sadly. It was a yawn fest.
 
Pakistanis talking about opening ceremony as if they used to do Bhangra nights in honour of opening ceremony.
 
jos butler about dharamsala outfeild

A "poor" outfield in Dharamsala will force fielders to "be a little bit careful", says England captain Jos Buttler a day before their match against Bangladesh
 
Yesterday weather was also not ideal for cricketers. India have dozen of stadium but i don't know why they included extremely hot conditions like chennai
 
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Lights went out yesterday in nz press conference if this was in Pak it would have been headline news articles all over the place.
 
Indian fans staying home and appreciating this GOAT World Cup matches on the TV screens....or they think, these GOAT WC matches are not as interesting as their IPL matches and their cheerleaders?
 
There is nothing in it for the bowlers. With the crowds not being that big either thus far i find it to be a rather boring tournament.
 
There is nothing in it for the bowlers. With the crowds not being that big either thus far i find it to be a rather boring tournament.

Cricket in IPL is much higher quality than this WC.... that's what Indian fans are saying by staying home.
 
Cricket in IPL is much higher quality than this WC.... that's what Indian fans are saying by staying home.

To be honest, IPL does operate at a much higher level.

CWC has to be there for feel good factor , nationalism and all but otherwise IPL is the marque event in cricket today.
 
The tournament is way too long as well. 3 or 4 weeks of it then people may have been more interested. No one wants to see the likes of Afghanistan or the Netherlands needlessly extending it.
 
To be honest, IPL does operate at a much higher level.

CWC has to be there for feel good factor , nationalism and all but otherwise IPL is the marque event in cricket today.

I was stricktly comparing quality of cricket.....
 
Indian fans staying home and appreciating this GOAT World Cup matches on the TV screens....or they think, these GOAT WC matches are not as interesting as their IPL matches and their cheerleaders?
IPL final on Hotstar saw some 18 million peak viewership watching a few years ago.

India vs Australia saw somewhere around 21 -23 million on Hotstar despite no cheerleaders :mv

Clearly a case of them consuming the GOAT World Cup from the comfort of their homes rather than at the stadia :)
 
IPL final on Hotstar saw some 18 million peak viewership watching a few years ago.

India vs Australia saw somewhere around 21 -23 million on Hotstar despite no cheerleaders :mv

Clearly a case of them consuming the GOAT World Cup from the comfort of their homes rather than at the stadia :)

That still does not explain full stadiums in IPL matches vs empty stands in this WC.... must not be the quality of cricket or is it? I guess, Indian fans know love quality when and where they see it.
 
I've clearly mentioned in the OP that this is only about the cricket in the matches.
That's exactly what my point is.... quality of cricket in this WC vs quality of cricket in IPL.
 
That's exactly what my point is.... quality of cricket in this WC vs quality of cricket in IPL.
I appreciate that you stuck to that. My point is that it's clear that the way cricketing audiences consume ODI cricket has changed as evidenced by the numbers I quoted above.

People are certainly watching these matches in large numbers.


Now whether that's because they don't want to sit for 7 hours in a stadium to watch ODIs or is it purely pathetic administration and sales of tickets is the only question

Clearly , the cricket still has plenty of demand.
 
I appreciate that you stuck to that. My point is that it's clear that the way cricketing audiences consume ODI cricket has changed as evidenced by the numbers I quoted above.

People are certainly watching these matches in large numbers.


Now whether that's because they don't want to sit for 7 hours in a stadium to watch ODIs or is it purely pathetic administration and sales of tickets is the only question

Clearly , the cricket still has plenty of demand.

Sitting in the stadium for 7 hours, pathetic administration (I have no idea what you mean) and Sales of the ticket (whatever that means)..... is the only defence you could up with for the total lack of interest from Indian fans???

So then the quality of cricket is absolutely secondary? Right?

Before IPL Indian fans filled up the stadiums even when stadium facilities were not modren, BCCI did not have that much money hence poor administration, people had to sit on the steps, very few individual chairs and yet.... Indian stadiums filled up.

I don't know why are you so reluctant to admit that Indian fans do not care about anything related to cricket (quality or otherwise) except IPL. What's so hard about admitting it?
 
Sitting in the stadium for 7 hours, pathetic administration (I have no idea what you mean) and Sales of the ticket (whatever that means)..... is the only defence you could up with for the total lack of interest from Indian fans???

So then the quality of cricket is absolutely secondary? Right?

Before IPL Indian fans filled up the stadiums even when stadium facilities were not modren, BCCI did not have that much money hence poor administration, people had to sit on the steps, very few individual chairs and yet.... Indian stadiums filled up.

I don't know why are you so reluctant to admit that Indian fans do not care about anything related to cricket (quality or otherwise) except IPL. What's so hard about admitting it?
There are issues with the ticketing process and the conditions at the stadiums have been sub par.

There are massive viewers on both the paid subscription and cable. So it's not like they are switching off the cricket.
 
6 matches in and it feels like this is a WC played during Covid.

The crowds is literally non existent, and even in the India vs Australia game, there were empty seats towards the end of the game, and frankly very little passion from the Indian crowd - and this was on a Sunday.
 
Avg so far. One sided matches, lame crowds , poor commentary, poor cameramen. Not to mention some fans still waiting for visas lol.

Lets see if it improves.
 
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