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If I were Inzamam-ul-Haq.....

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I would be worried.

Absolutely nothing in this ODI squad in the young or old which would fill me with joy or hope.

Every game seems to be showing us bigger problems and the problems at the lack of domestic talent seem bigger than ever.
 
If I were Inzamam I'd ask what the hell are our grassroots and domestic coaches are doing ? Talent doesn't magically come out of the sky - you have to develop and nurture it by working on a player's strengths and weaknesses. You drill them and try to equip them with the skills needed in the modern game.

For all the endless whining and crying on this forum on how we somehow have worldbeaters waiting in the wings but are being cruelly put down by evil Inzamam - go watch this National T20 Cup which has been a depressing watch whenever I've tuned in.

Many teams and players are exhibiting the same flaws as the senior team. Where's the powerhitters ? Where's the dynamic batsmen who can rotate strike and find the gaps ? Where's the natural strokeplayers ? What missing gems are being ignored ? What player are we ignoring that is going to catapult us to WT20 and World Cup finals ?
 
If I were Inzamam, I would still select the best out of this worst bunch and make it clear to PCB that we won't win anything unless we improve the coaching at grass root level.
 
If I were Inzamam I'd ask what the hell are our grassroots and domestic coaches are doing ? Talent doesn't magically come out of the sky - you have to develop and nurture it by working on a player's strengths and weaknesses. You drill them and try to equip them with the skills needed in the modern game.

For all the endless whining and crying on this forum on how we somehow have worldbeaters waiting in the wings but are being cruelly put down by evil Inzamam - go watch this National T20 Cup which has been a depressing watch whenever I've tuned in.

Many teams and players are exhibiting the same flaws as the senior team. Where's the powerhitters ? Where's the dynamic batsmen who can rotate strike and find the gaps ? Where's the natural strokeplayers ? What missing gems are being ignored ? What player are we ignoring that is going to catapult us to WT20 and World Cup finals ?

I wouldnt have taken on this job because I would know that we had no system!
 
Youngsters imitate their seniors. You are setting a wrong precedence.

Why Inzimam is so rigid on Shoaib Malik and Umar Gul ?

I would rather lose with Pakistan A team than these tried and tested failures, or has-been's.

So many selection blunders, Irfan/Tanvir/Wahab/Yasir/Gul/Malik/Hafeez have no place in WC2019 squad.

Shahid Afridi must be regretting his decision to retire from ODIs.
 
If I were Inzamam I'd ask what the hell are our grassroots and domestic coaches are doing ? Talent doesn't magically come out of the sky - you have to develop and nurture it by working on a player's strengths and weaknesses. You drill them and try to equip them with the skills needed in the modern game.

For all the endless whining and crying on this forum on how we somehow have worldbeaters waiting in the wings but are being cruelly put down by evil Inzamam - go watch this National T20 Cup which has been a depressing watch whenever I've tuned in.

Many teams and players are exhibiting the same flaws as the senior team. Where's the powerhitters ? Where's the dynamic batsmen who can rotate strike and find the gaps ? Where's the natural strokeplayers ? What missing gems are being ignored ? What player are we ignoring that is going to catapult us to WT20 and World Cup finals ?

They need to re-establish school cricket and start from a very young age and also teach the youngsters the importance of being a good athlete, not only a batsman or a bowler. The youngsters should bowl, bat and field at same time so they have the basics covered from young age. There are some attitude issues against hard work in general in Pakistan.
 
For god's sake just drop these flop seniors and stick with a young 15 man squad even if we lose the next few series.

That's the only thing I ask of the great Inzi.
 
Drop Azhar, Malik, Gul, Wahab, Sami Aslam (too slow)

Bring in U Akmal, Ammad, Sadaf, Sohail Khan, Asghar, Fakhar
 
For god's sake just drop these flop seniors and stick with a young 15 man squad even if we lose the next few series.

That's the only thing I ask of the great Inzi.

It will not work... Just look at babar, his technique is very good for an int'l batsman... but he is happy with scoring 40s and 50s and there is no intent from him to stay and score big for the team...the mindset of these players are really bad, just like the captain... if captain gets away with 2 scores of 80+ at a SR70-80 in a series then he sets up the example to follow....if captain can score slowly and score 50s then y am I dashing myself at SR100 or 100+ .. if u can get what im trying to say...
 
We need a new captain and a TTF-free squad. Gul can maybe be tries out for a couple of T20 games and Irfan needs to be a fixture for us in LOIs but that is it. No point in playing Azhar, Malik, Hafeez, Riaz and Sohail Khan in the team when they're not performing and are highly unlikely to play the next World Cup.

Cannot believe that people are writing off Sami Aslam this early. All the young guys from this series should be tried out against the Windies as well. They all have potential.
 
Really needs to sit down with the Cricket Committee guys (Muddassar and the lot) and ask what they intend to do about the problems he is seeing in the senior team
 
I would ask myself why do I continue to pick garbage TTFs and why am I selecting teams comparable to my predecessors even though I was hailed as some sort of savoir..
 
I am more concerned about fielding and batsmen

I am concerned about everything. We gave up 444 bowling. Today when Eng were 72/4, they easily scored at 5+ an over off our spinners. Eng spinners took 5 wickets on the same track earlier.

Holes everywhere on this team; only Amir gives me hope.
 
I am concerned about everything. We gave up 444 bowling. Today when Eng were 72/4, they easily scored at 5+ an over off our spinners. Eng spinners took 5 wickets on the same track earlier.

Holes everywhere on this team; only Amir gives me hope.

Fielders support bowlers.
 
We are truly deserving the no 9. There is a big gulf between this England odi team and Pakistan we are no match for there power game
 
If I were Inzamam I wouldn't be picking players that I have soft corners for(ttfs) and try to give them 1000th chance to revivie their careers out of their graves.(Gul,Irfan) I would rather look at long term solution and try to build team with current generation of players.
 
He choosed a good bating squad.

Pakistan's problem has always been the batting. He choose the best available squad for the batting line up.

Bowling could had been better. But he still would had been criticized if he had not selected Yasir Shah.

Umar Gul's selection was not needed. Can't blame him for Irfan, as on the verge of getting whitewash, we needed someone like him.

The Amir hype that had everyone singing tones, should be blamed to be honest. Everyone wanted him selected, and what has he done?
 
He choosed a good bating squad.

Pakistan's problem has always been the batting. He choose the best available squad for the batting line up.

Bowling could had been better. But he still would had been criticized if he had not selected Yasir Shah.

Umar Gul's selection was not needed. Can't blame him for Irfan, as on the verge of getting whitewash, we needed someone like him.

The Amir hype that had everyone singing tones, should be blamed to be honest. Everyone wanted him selected, and what has he done?

define best. an ODI side full of anchors is not the best side at all. there has to be balance of power hitters and anchors.
 
define best. an ODI side full of anchors is not the best side at all. there has to be balance of power hitters and anchors.

Best available domestic players.

Babar Azam and Sami Aslam are two batsmen who have been scoring in domestic from u19 days. Sharjeel has been many hundreds in List A cricket. Azhar Ali himself has been good in One day international. Malik is needed as a senior player in that line up. Imad Waseem, dont like him as a batsmen, but still he is performing.

I don't understand what else do Pakistani's want? This is the best available lot from domestic. Khalid latif is good batsmen against spinners, but he won't get selected in One day's this quickly.

The Odi bowling selected was a joke though. Sohail, Rahat should had been in the squad atleast. Proven in australia.

Nawaz selection is a joke though
 
to be very honest though, never liked babar azam when i saw Shaun Tait rattle him, but still on merit had to be selected.
 
If I was Inzi I would look to start again....
Accept that while it's been painful to get hammered , we have been hammered by a good team and we know we have to get a lot better on all three facets of the game.
1. Batting - apart from Sharjeel the team lacks power
2. Bowling - apart from Amir the team lacks skill.
B. Bowling - it lacks pace
C. Bowling-we lack spinners who can actually really turn it
3.fieldng - is substandard
4. Captaincy - is very average - based on waiting for opponents to make mistakes rather taking the initiative by going for wickets
5. Attitude - we seem to lack any aggression on the field.
6. The team lacks physicality

A few things to work on then
 
This is not captain Tsubasa you can't select a complete young team and make them play internationals,this is the best that was available except the captain change don't think there is much difference he can make with selections.
 
This is not captain Tsubasa you can't select a complete young team and make them play internationals,this is the best that was available except the captain change don't think there is much difference he can make with selections.

I disagree you can play a young side.
It couldn't do any worse than this team and the players have age on their side.
 
If I was Inzi I would look to start again....
Accept that while it's been painful to get hammered , we have been hammered by a good team and we know we have to get a lot better on all three facets of the game.
1. Batting - apart from Sharjeel the team lacks power
2. Bowling - apart from Amir the team lacks skill.
B. Bowling - it lacks pace
C. Bowling-we lack spinners who can actually really turn it
3.fieldng - is substandard
4. Captaincy - is very average - based on waiting for opponents to make mistakes rather taking the initiative by going for wickets
5. Attitude - we seem to lack any aggression on the field.
6. The team lacks physicality

A few things to work on then

Absolutely spot on. So if i were Inzi my next steps would be to:

1. define what roles our ODI / T20 teams need e.g. 2-3 power hitters, 2-3 all-rounders, genuinely skillful fast bowlers (not like Wahab and Gul or Irfan etc), mystery spinner who can hit big (e.g. Imad) etc etc..

2. identify a pool of available talent that I think can play modern ODI / T20 game. I dont mean 11 players, i mean 20-25 players.

3. ring-fence them for few months when they arent playing International cricket and educate them, make them aware about mental aspects of the game, how to read the opposition and plan their own games (e.g. if in ODI, what is the game plan of the bowler, depending upon his pre-defined role, for the 10 overs he is going to bowl etc etc)..

4. I would ask each of these players in the pool above to go back and work on their games with the objective that when they return they need to prove what are their specialities are i.e. are you a power hitter, are you a death bowler, are you good at rotating the strike etc etc. Based on that I will group them into the roles (defined in point 1 above).

5. and then we roll out the squad and see how they play in Australia / NZ etc. I would tell the pool that you are in the frame so even if u arent selected in the group that is leaving for Aus / NZ, you are the back up if something happens within your area of speciality and that you will get x number of matches definitely.


As i said in one of my post previously, i dont care if we dont win a single match in CT 2017 in ENG but by then we need to have a clear view around the pool of players and those players need to know what they are bringing to the table not just one day you play Wahan bcoz he bowled one spell to Watson in 2015. Come on Inzi bhai, lets get cracking!!
 
Role definition is the key.

It's not about talent alone. You can put 11 "superstars" together and things can fall apart if the right roles are not assigned to them.

Everyone should have a clear purpose in the team.

What we have right now is an abomination. We have 4-5 accumulators. These are guys who need someone on the other end to keep things ticking. When two of them end up batting together as often happens, you see a sluggish run rate and eventually they try slogging and get out.

Yes, it is nice to have batsmen who can accelerate at will, but that's rare. You can't keep waiting until a Kohli drops from the sky. You have to adapt and tell people their roles. Put the best guys for those roles and watch this team get better.

Also, batting depth is vital in this generation of ODI cricket. You have to bat down to 9/10.
 
Selecting TTFs & players who aren't realistically going to play in WC 2019.

No point in selecting Irfan, Gul, Hafeez in ODIs. They aren't going to take you anywhere.

Sohail Tanvir in T20I is fine for me, he is one of the most sought after T20 players across the world.
 
I would sit down with Mickey and discuss his plans and how to get 11 guys together who can suit each format better. They need to stop selecting players in ODIs on basis of test performances and vice versa.

Firstly look at the positives of the ODIs. Only 3 players have somewhat performed decently - Sarfraz, Imad wasim and Azhar Ali. Though Azhar Ali has had a decent series with the bat his strike rate is just not good enough for the format. He also has a lot to work on in terms of captaincy. So far has been clueless. Sarfraz also does have issues with the SR but has to be retained since we have no alternative better keeper.

Amongst the bowlers Gul, Wahab are really just spraying it around and can't play the format. Zia Ul Haq has shown potential and needs to be given a run. Hasan Ali also has potential and can be a good new ball bowler with time.

Pakistan needs at least one front line spinner. Nawaz and Wasim are part timers, and u can't play both. I'd play Imad due to batting ability and bring in Zafar Gohar as a front line spinner.

As far as batting is concerned Umar Akmal has to come back unless Inzi can discover a hidden gem from somewhere. Sharjeel needs to stay as he is a great destructive force in this format. Babar needs a little more time. Haris Sohail needs to come back. Anwar Ali needs to come in as he is a good finisher. His bowling hasn't been great but he should be considered and played as a batting all rounder, sort of like Ben Stokes.

They need to pick an aggressive team. It will be hard and days will come when they might be bowls out for 150 odd but the risk can pay off if given the time. Tough times are ahead for Inzi. Either they can lose by big margins now but hope that the experience will help in correcting the issues. Or they can select the same type of players and continue to lose after scoring 250s and 260s.
 
If I were Inzamam, I will ask myself: If instead of me, it was some other chief selector with this kind of track record, will he deserve to stay?
 
If I were Inzamam, I will ask myself: If instead of me, it was some other chief selector with this kind of track record, will he deserve to stay?

Knowing PCB, some stupid PCB employee like Subhan Ahmed, Haroon Rashid, etc, would be in line if he resigns.

We should allow a few disappointing picks with Inzi (at least he does give chances to domestic performers) than complete joke of selections with other incompetent ones who would follow
 
If I were inzamam I would be ashamed of a squad which has azhar, shehzad, kamran (in windies), Malik, hafeez, Umar Akmal (unfit), Haris sohail (potential unfit/untested since comeback) Wahab.
The senior players from this selection are known to fail against top completion and the junior from the list above were unfit or did nothing to improve.
This excuse of no talent does not fly if you don't select it. He ignored the top scorers from the last three domestic tournaments in Pakistan. Nobody put a gun to his head to ignore sahibzada Farhan, Umar Amin, awais Zia, khurrum manzoor, iftikhar.
 
Inzis had a chance to start a fresh and get rid of all the dead wood in the team! That would have been a start, yet hes still picking tried and tested failures expecting miracles. England learnt from mistakes from 2015 and started a fresh with new players and given them a good run in side. All our selectors do is panic after a couple of bad games and go back to selecting TTFS again with so called "experience"
 
Inzis had a chance to start a fresh and get rid of all the dead wood in the team! That would have been a start, yet hes still picking tried and tested failures expecting miracles. England learnt from mistakes from 2015 and started a fresh with new players and given them a good run in side. All our selectors do is panic after a couple of bad games and go back to selecting TTFS again with so called "experience"

Looks like every chief selector in Pakistan is influenced by powerful groups within the country's elite.
 
If I were inzamam I would be ashamed of a squad which has azhar, shehzad, kamran (in windies), Malik, hafeez, Umar Akmal (unfit), Haris sohail (potential unfit/untested since comeback) Wahab.
The senior players from this selection are known to fail against top completion and the junior from the list above were unfit or did nothing to improve.
This excuse of no talent does not fly if you don't select it. He ignored the top scorers from the last three domestic tournaments in Pakistan. Nobody put a gun to his head to ignore sahibzada Farhan, Umar Amin, awais Zia, khurrum manzoor, iftikhar.

See, this is what is wrong with out fans. The hypocrisy is rife. There is no good reason that a person can criticize the selection of Kamran, Shehzad, Malik, Akmal and Hafeez but then get upset that Amin, Zia, Manzoor and Iftikhar. This is how the majority of fans think. Give a chance to the performing players, but only if I like them and only if they haven't been given a chance before. However, if I like them, then keep giving them chances after every domestic cup where they score a few runs.

If I ever Inzamam, I would ask Mickey and Sarfaraz their reasoning for playing Azhar, Shehzad, Hafeez, Imad and Riaz against India. Also, would be pretty disappointed that Fahim Ashraf hasn't got a game yet.
 
See, this is what is wrong with out fans. The hypocrisy is rife. There is no good reason that a person can criticize the selection of Kamran, Shehzad, Malik, Akmal and Hafeez but then get upset that Amin, Zia, Manzoor and Iftikhar. This is how the majority of fans think. Give a chance to the performing players, but only if I like them and only if they haven't been given a chance before. However, if I like them, then keep giving them chances after every domestic cup where they score a few runs.

If I ever Inzamam, I would ask Mickey and Sarfaraz their reasoning for playing Azhar, Shehzad, Hafeez, Imad and Riaz against India. Also, would be pretty disappointed that Fahim Ashraf hasn't got a game yet.

You sound like a spokesman. Can't engage with this. The fact the pedigree of the rubbish he selected is pretty obvious
 
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