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Bangladesh should occupy India’s seven northeast states if the neighbouring country attacks Pakistan, a senior official appointed by the Muhammad Yunus-led interim government has said

The remark of Major General (retired) A.L.M. Fazlur Rahman, the chairperson of the National Independent Commission of Inquiry probing the 2009 Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) massacre, comes at a time when Dhaka’s ties with New Delhi has seen a downturn after ouster of former prime minister Sheikh Hasina in August last year.

“If India attacks Pakistan, Bangladesh should occupy seven states of North East India. In this regard, I think it is necessary to start a discussion on a joint military system with China,” Rahman posted Tuesday in Bengali on Facebook.

The post was endorsed with a ‘like’ by fellow commission member Shahnawaz Khan Chandan, who is a former member of the Islamist student group Islami Chhatra Shibir. Chandan, an assistant professor in Dhaka’s Jagannath University, is someone whom Yunus is said to have “placed complete trust” with.


The timing of the post can hardly be missed as it comes amid heightened tensions between India and Pakistan post the Pahalgam terror attack. In a slew of sweeping punitive actions, India has kept the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty in abeyance, closed the Integrated Check Post at Attari, and downgraded diplomatic ties.

In contrast, Bangladesh has warmed up to Pakistan amid diplomatic chill with India post Hasina’s ouster. The two countries held their first foreign secretary-level talks in nearly 15 years this month in Dhaka, aiming to address bilateral and historical issues.

The talks follow quiet diplomatic overtures, including eased visa rules and renewed engagement on 1971-related grievances. A visit by Pakistan’s Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar is also expected later, currently on hold amid growing tensions.



Who is Fazlur Rahman

Rahman headed the BDR when the paramilitary force killed 16 personnel of the Border Security Force (BSF) in the 2001 Bangladesh-India border clashes. Now elevated to a status equal to a Supreme Court appellate division judge, the retired army officer has vowed to uncover the “foreign conspiracy” behind the 2009 Pilkhana killings.

Rahman has maintained that the original mutiny probe covered up a deeper conspiracy. “We aim to determine whether any foreign entity was involved in the carnage,” he previously said, alluding to alleged Indian interference.

Rahman’s latest remark is likely to cause further strain in ties with India, as it comes after Bangladesh’s interim leader Muhammad Yunus last month asserted that Bangladesh—not India—is the only true gateway to South Asia, in a meeting with Chinese officials.

“The eastern part of India, known as the Seven Sisters, is landlocked. They have no access to the ocean. We are the only guardians of the ocean in this region. This opens up huge possibilities,” Yunus said in a video of the meeting that has gone viral on social media.

He added that Bangladesh could serve as “an extension of the Chinese economy—building, producing, and marketing goods for China and the world.”

What is the independent commission

The National Independent Commission of Inquiry was set up in December 2024 to re-investigate the failed 2009 paramilitary mutiny and its aftermath, including the claims of foreign involvement.

During the uprising, BDR soldiers went on a violent rampage at their Dhaka headquarters, stealing thousands of weapons and killing their commanding officers. The mutiny quickly spread nationwide before it was crushed by the army. Seventy-four people, including 57 army officers, were killed in the carnage.

Since Hasina’s ouster in August 2024, families of officers killed in the mutiny have pushed for the case to be reopened, accusing her of undermining the military to consolidate power. The original trials, conducted under her government, led to mass convictions via special courts—criticised by the United Nations for lacking due process.

Amid renewed investigation, local media outlet Amar Desh Patrika also revived claims that Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) orchestrated the 2009 massacre, allegedly bringing in trained assassins disguised as athletes and patients who later fled on a delayed flight.

The report said former home minister Sahara Khatun’s Hotel Imperial in Farmgate was allegedly used as a safehouse, while CCTV footage from the scene was reportedly destroyed by then BDR chief Moinul Islam. Despite being summoned, many key suspects in the Hasina administration allegedly evaded questioning.

Source: The Print
 
Bangladesh should occupy India’s seven northeast states if the neighbouring country attacks Pakistan, a senior official appointed by the Muhammad Yunus-led interim government has said.

The remark of Major General (retired) A.L.M. Fazlur Rahman, the chairperson of the National Independent Commission of Inquiry probing the 2009 Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) massacre, comes at a time when Dhaka’s ties with New Delhi has seen a downturn after ouster of former prime minister Sheikh Hasina in August last year.

“If India attacks Pakistan, Bangladesh should occupy seven states of North East India. In this regard, I think it is necessary to start a discussion on a joint military system with China,” Rahman posted Tuesday in Bengali on Facebook.

The post was endorsed with a ‘like’ by fellow commission member Shahnawaz Khan Chandan, who is a former member of the Islamist student group Islami Chhatra Shibir. Chandan, an assistant professor in Dhaka’s Jagannath University, is someone whom Yunus is said to have “placed complete trust” with.


The timing of the post can hardly be missed as it comes amid heightened tensions between India and Pakistan post the Pahalgam terror attack. In a slew of sweeping punitive actions, India has kept the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty in abeyance, closed the Integrated Check Post at Attari, and downgraded diplomatic ties.

In contrast, Bangladesh has warmed up to Pakistan amid diplomatic chill with India post Hasina’s ouster. The two countries held their first foreign secretary-level talks in nearly 15 years this month in Dhaka, aiming to address bilateral and historical issues.

The talks follow quiet diplomatic overtures, including eased visa rules and renewed engagement on 1971-related grievances. A visit by Pakistan’s Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Dar is also expected later, currently on hold amid growing tensions.



Who is Fazlur Rahman

Rahman headed the BDR when the paramilitary force killed 16 personnel of the Border Security Force (BSF) in the 2001 Bangladesh-India border clashes. Now elevated to a status equal to a Supreme Court appellate division judge, the retired army officer has vowed to uncover the “foreign conspiracy” behind the 2009 Pilkhana killings.

Rahman has maintained that the original mutiny probe covered up a deeper conspiracy. “We aim to determine whether any foreign entity was involved in the carnage,” he previously said, alluding to alleged Indian interference.

Rahman’s latest remark is likely to cause further strain in ties with India, as it comes after Bangladesh’s interim leader Muhammad Yunus last month asserted that Bangladesh—not India—is the only true gateway to South Asia, in a meeting with Chinese officials.

“The eastern part of India, known as the Seven Sisters, is landlocked. They have no access to the ocean. We are the only guardians of the ocean in this region. This opens up huge possibilities,” Yunus said in a video of the meeting that has gone viral on social media.

He added that Bangladesh could serve as “an extension of the Chinese economy—building, producing, and marketing goods for China and the world.”

What is the independent commission

The National Independent Commission of Inquiry was set up in December 2024 to re-investigate the failed 2009 paramilitary mutiny and its aftermath, including the claims of foreign involvement.

During the uprising, BDR soldiers went on a violent rampage at their Dhaka headquarters, stealing thousands of weapons and killing their commanding officers. The mutiny quickly spread nationwide before it was crushed by the army. Seventy-four people, including 57 army officers, were killed in the carnage.

Since Hasina’s ouster in August 2024, families of officers killed in the mutiny have pushed for the case to be reopened, accusing her of undermining the military to consolidate power. The original trials, conducted under her government, led to mass convictions via special courts—criticised by the United Nations for lacking due process.

Amid renewed investigation, local media outlet Amar Desh Patrika also revived claims that Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) orchestrated the 2009 massacre, allegedly bringing in trained assassins disguised as athletes and patients who later fled on a delayed flight.

The report said former home minister Sahara Khatun’s Hotel Imperial in Farmgate was allegedly used as a safehouse, while CCTV footage from the scene was reportedly destroyed by then BDR chief Moinul Islam. Despite being summoned, many key suspects in the Hasina administration allegedly evaded questioning.

Source: The Print
Exactly what a Bangladeshi delegation told me in Madina a few months ago, long before Pehalgam incident. Indian attack on Pakistan would be an opportunity of a lifetime for both Bangladesh and China.

But let me reiterate that Pakistan isn't relying or expecting either Bangladesh or China to open another front, any Indian kinetic adventure will be met with a asymmetric, irregular and disproportionate response, it is for India to find out.
 
What is the Bangladesh armed forces capability in 2025? Could they cause significant damage or occupy Indian miltary forces on that border, which would put unnecessary strain purely brought on themselves by India's political heavy-handed approach?
 
Makes a lot of sense how they think. Man our Diplomats have saved us, these guys are dimwits across the borders as they become Diplomats from the Army.
 
Exactly what a Bangladeshi delegation told me in Madina a few months ago, long before Pehalgam incident. Indian attack on Pakistan would be an opportunity of a lifetime for both Bangladesh and China.

But let me reiterate that Pakistan isn't relying or expecting either Bangladesh or China to open another front, any Indian kinetic adventure will be met with a asymmetric, irregular and disproportionate response, it is for India to find out.
Lol on a side note, Indian mistiming has given a life to some haughty heads of the establishment. Poor timing and planning by neighbors
 
Exactly what a Bangladeshi delegation told me in Madina a few months ago, long before Pehalgam incident. Indian attack on Pakistan would be an opportunity of a lifetime for both Bangladesh and China.

But let me reiterate that Pakistan isn't relying or expecting either Bangladesh or China to open another front, any Indian kinetic adventure will be met with a asymmetric, irregular and disproportionate response, it is for India to find out.
Did they tell you about how Bangladeshis worship mediocrity as well?
 
Foreign Ministry Released A Statement Regarding The Facebook Post Of Ex BDR Leader Fazlur Rahman

Government Said They Distances Themselve From Any Such Rhetoric, In No Capacity Bangladesh Government Support Such Statements. Government Urged People Not To Associate Bangladesh Government With A Persons Personal Statement.

Ye to Abhi se darne lage 😂😂😂😂

:kp
 
I have a feeling this armywallah was paid a lot of money to make this facebook post. So lame.
 
Foreign Ministry Released A Statement Regarding The Facebook Post Of Ex BDR Leader Fazlur Rahman

Government Said They Distances Themselve From Any Such Rhetoric, In No Capacity Bangladesh Government Support Such Statements. Government Urged People Not To Associate Bangladesh Government With A Persons Personal Statement.

Ye to Abhi se darne lage 😂😂😂😂

:kp
Oh I get it they are playing with the media, the same way Modi, Nawaz etc send messages with Kh Asif and Sambit Patra etc
 
Bangladeshi thinks they can take on Assam Manipur Nagaland lol , now I see where they think team can win anything but end up losing to Zim, seems to be a national problem there
wonder @Hitman resd this news lol
 
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Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?
 
Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?
Sri Lanka? This is the best relation we have had with Lanka since 1980s, Nepal is still open border but much better than 2012.

Do we want to talk about Pakistan now, where there is cross border firing with all border nations?
 
Bangladeshi dullard thinks they can take on Assam Manipur Nagaland lol , now I see where they think team can win anything but end up losing to Zim, seems to be a national problem there

There is no harm in trying. In a 7-match cricket series, Bangladesh could win a match for sure, and if they try to take 7 wickets of India, they may win one or two.
India has went from having a puppet in place in Bangladesh to Bangladeshis wanting to seize territory in less than one year. They have totally failed in regional relations.
 
There is no harm in trying. In a 7-match cricket series, Bangladesh could win a match for sure, and if they try to take 7 wickets of India, they may win one or two.
India has went from having a puppet in place in Bangladesh to Bangladeshis wanting to seize territory in less than one year. They have totally failed in regional relations.
Lol that’s not a failed relationship that’s like saying they didn’t know what Bangladeshi Awam is capable of.
, India didn’t learn from Pak’s strategy in Iran , Afghanistan.
 
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Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?
And unfortunately we have some fellows here who call Modi to be the maestro on managing foreign affairs 🤦‍♂️
 
And unfortunately we have some fellows here who call Modi to be the maestro on managing foreign affairs 🤦‍♂️
He is good outside the region with UAE, Saudi, Israel and America.

India is like a lousy hillbilly neighbour who plays loud music all night and takes dumps in their garden, but puts on a suit and tie and looks professional towards outsiders
 
Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?
The people of Bangladesh are Muslims and that's why after 1971 they chose to become "Bangladesh" instead of West Bengal. India spent millions propping up the Government of PM Hasina and setup an apparatus of state sanctioned institutions which targeted and oppressed the common citizens of Bangladesh and protected the "Anti-Islam" forces and voices.

And then it was no more...

Indians are also delusional about Afghanistan and its Muslims.

And then it will be no more...

The common factors in both Bangladesh and Afghanistan are India and Pakistan Military remove the later and you are left with Muslims and India is automatically out...
 
The people of Bangladesh are Muslims and that's why after 1971 they chose to become "Bangladesh" instead of West Bengal. India spent millions propping up the Government of PM Hasina and setup an apparatus of state sanctioned institutions which targeted and oppressed the common citizens of Bangladesh and protected the "Anti-Islam" forces and voices.

And then it was no more...

Indians are also delusional about Afghanistan and its Muslims.

And then it will be no more...

The common factors in both Bangladesh and Afghanistan are India and Pakistan Military remove the later and you are left with Muslims and India is automatically out...
It is not solely down to religion. The chinese have the same issues with them and there are issues with Nepal etc too.

It is the only country to be fighting multiple ethnic/religious/nationalist insurgencies internally and have such bad relations with all external parties too.
 
Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?

One word because they are Muslim nation . Period. They forget all the genocide and 80k bangladesh were raped .

They even destroyed the statue of Bangabandhu.

:kp
 
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But let me reiterate that Pakistan isn't relying or expecting either Bangladesh or China to open another front, any Indian kinetic adventure will be met with a asymmetric, irregular and disproportionate response, it is for India to find out.

^ Dammnnn ... LordJames has gone from being a peaceful islamic scholar offering theology lessons to neo-war hawk threatening massacre of innocent civilians.

Asim Munir's plan has worked beautifully. The whole country of Pakistan has rallied behind the establishment.
 
So for 40 year they forgot they were Muslim but in 2025 remembered?

No situation is ever Indians fault. They are poor victims.
Offer the dollers they will forget everything. Wasn't they asking money from Pakistan to forget about past. :kp
 
Pakistan we can deal with but honestly im not too confident about dealing with mighty Bengal Tigers on the battlefield :moyo
 
The subcontinent remains tragically consistent, always ready to wage war, either with its own people or its closest neighbors. And in the end, that’s what this region will be known for: fighting endless battles with weapons bought from the very “farangis” it once rose up against. From resisting colonial rule to becoming loyal customers of its arms industry, the irony couldn’t be more complete.
 
Ex BDR Leader Fazlur Rahman must have received invitation from Pakistan to fight from their side against India. He needs some reason to resign form his post that’s why this statement.
 
You have no dignity left when you openly support the genocide of innocent kids.
If only certificates from Pakistanis matter. No Pakistani has a shred of credibility when they support and celebrate those mass murdering genocidal and tyrannical Islamic invaders of the subcontinent.​
 
The subcontinent remains tragically consistent, always ready to wage war, either with its own people or its closest neighbors. And in the end, that’s what this region will be known for: fighting endless battles with weapons bought from the very “farangis” it once rose up against. From resisting colonial rule to becoming loyal customers of its arms industry, the irony couldn’t be more complete.

Cringey attempt at bothsidesism.

If you were intellectually honest, you would have also pointed out how one side regularly went out of its way to create this situation of endless battles, starting way back in 1965.
 
Sri Lanka? This is the best relation we have had with Lanka since 1980s, Nepal is still open border but much better than 2012.

Do we want to talk about Pakistan now, where there is cross border firing with all border nations?

I know there was a large influx of Tamil refugees into the UK during the Indo-Sri Lanka conflict, both from Indian and Sri Lanka. But Sri Lankans don't seem to have any beef with Pakistan, and you don't see them on Pakistani social media getting into spats over religion much like Indians do. I would say if anything they have had worse relations with India down the years than Pakistan. Why is that?
 

One word because they are Muslim nation . Period. They forget all the genocide and 80k bangladesh women's were raped .

They even destroyed the statue of Bangabandhu.

:kp

Bangladesh jihadis want to destroy their nation like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan
 
If only certificates from Pakistanis matter. No Pakistani has a shred of credibility when they support and celebrate those mass murdering genocidal and tyrannical Islamic invaders of the subcontinent.​
How exactly are Pakistanis expected to support or defend genocides committed centuries ago by so called Islamic invaders that made India's one of the largest economy, when none of us were even alive? That historical blame game isn’t about accountability, it’s a lazy excuse used by people like you to justify your hatred toward Muslims today and rationalize the unfolding genocide in 2025.

I’m not here to hand out certificates. Laughable, really
 
I know there was a large influx of Tamil refugees into the UK during the Indo-Sri Lanka conflict, both from Indian and Sri Lanka. But Sri Lankans don't seem to have any beef with Pakistan, and you don't see them on Pakistani social media getting into spats over religion much like Indians do. I would say if anything they have had worse relations with India down the years than Pakistan. Why is that?
Sorry what? Comparison is more like Lanka -India and Iran-Pakistan, why does Pakistan come here incase of Lanka.

Lankan Tamils have no beef with India, Lankan Sinhalese are now getting there after their bankruptcy.
 
Bangladesh jihadis want to destroy their nation like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan
They deserved it . We don't need to do anything to Pakistan , Bangladesh because they are on self-destruction mode. as you sow, so shall you reap .

:kp
 
Cringey attempt at bothsidesism.

If you were intellectually honest, you would have also pointed out how one side regularly went out of its way to create this situation of endless battles, starting way back in 1965.
1947.
 
How exactly are Pakistanis expected to support or defend genocides committed centuries ago by so called Islamic invaders that made India's one of the largest economy, when none of us were even alive? That historical blame game isn’t about accountability, it’s a lazy excuse used by people like you to justify your hatred toward Muslims today and rationalize the unfolding genocide in 2025.

I’m not here to hand out certificates. Laughable, really

Some people are closet racists and sadists who pretend to be upright by crying about long gone invaders but endorse the butchering of children present day. No reason to engage with them. These wars have brought their true colors out.
 
Lots of jokes and banter but I hope one day there is some introspection from the Indians as to how they have blown their relations with almost all neighbours in the region.

Bangladesh have such a dislike for India they are willing to put Pakistan's genocide aside and work together against the Indians.

Their influence with Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal is also waning.

Why are they so disliked?
You stopped being factual for a long time now. Nepal, Maldives and Sri Lanka maintain good relations with India. Even Bangladesh, only after this joker regime came in things are downhill. My analysis is that bng Muslim majority have realised they have been mediocre since the creation of their state and wanted some attention. Thought they would get it in cricket but lo and behold, their team is eternal minnows. Soccer no chance. Only other thing they can leverage is their demographic, so developed deep fantasies about islamic ummah and started this overtures with Pakistan.
 
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How exactly are Pakistanis expected to support or defend genocides committed centuries ago by so called Islamic invaders that made India's one of the largest economy, when none of us were even alive? That historical blame game isn’t about accountability, it’s a lazy excuse used by people like you to justify your hatred toward Muslims today and rationalize the unfolding genocide in 2025.

I’m not here to hand out certificates. Laughable, really
You forgot the word celebrate.
 
I know there was a large influx of Tamil refugees into the UK during the Indo-Sri Lanka conflict, both from Indian and Sri Lanka. But Sri Lankans don't seem to have any beef with Pakistan, and you don't see them on Pakistani social media getting into spats over religion much like Indians do. I would say if anything they have had worse relations with India down the years than Pakistan. Why is that?

Sri Lankans are intelligent and likeable people.

No comparison with low-IQ and obnoxious bhakts. :inti
 
^ Dammnnn ... LordJames has gone from being a peaceful islamic scholar offering theology lessons to neo-war hawk threatening massacre of innocent civilians.

Asim Munir's plan has worked beautifully. The whole country of Pakistan has rallied behind the establishment.
I'm not issuing any threats, nor am I presenting myself as an Islamic scholar — peaceful or otherwise. What I am doing is offering a realistic assessment of the situation.

India’s economy is performing well, and its military is large. Many Indian commentators clearly take pride in this progress. However, relying solely on air power in the event of conflict may not produce the results some expect.

Consider history:
  • The Soviet Union and later the United States failed to achieve their objectives in Vietnam and Afghanistan, despite overwhelming air superiority.
  • In Syria, it wasn’t just Russian, Turkish, or Syrian air power that shifted the tide — ground operations and political changes were essential in bringing different actors to the negotiating table.
If India strikes within Pakistani territory, it would be unrealistic to expect no retaliation.

Should war escalate, Pakistan — being the smaller power — will not respond symmetrically. Instead, it would resort to irregular and asymmetric strategies. In every such scenario, India sustains significant damage — militarily and economically. Outside investment, already slowing, would likely halt entirely, seriously harming India's development.

Furthermore, if India follows through on threats to cut off water to over 250 million people, how exactly do you think they will respond?

What part of this assessment do you disagree with, and why? Do you believe India’s military capabilities surpass those of the former USSR or the United States? Or do you believe Pakistan is somehow weaker than Vietnam or Afghanistan, despite those countries lacking comparable air capabilities?

My core point is this: a full-scale war would devastate both countries. Even if one side "wins" militarily, the economic and human costs would be staggering. And while Islam is not geographically confined and can endure beyond borders, Hinduism — tied closely to a specific region — would face existential risks if that geography is heavily damaged.

This is not a call to war. It’s a cautionary analysis about the unpredictable and ruinous consequences of escalation.

All I’m saying is that India is not an economic superpower — if it were, millions of its citizens wouldn’t be working in the Middle East for low wages. Whether Pakistanis are doing the same is beside the point; the difference is that people of Pakistan don’t go around claiming to be an economic superpower.

Similarly, India is not a military superpower on the level of the USSR, the United States, or even China. It does not possess the overwhelming might required to decisively subdue a rival like Pakistan, especially in the complex and unpredictable nature of modern warfare.
  1. There is reality
  2. and then there is "delusion" in the heads of Hindutvas
 
They deserved it . We don't need to do anything to Pakistan , Bangladesh because they are on self-destruction mode. as you sow, so shall you reap .

:kp
The problem with such countries is they start waging weird wars on neighbouring countries or towards their own people, Iraq is an example for former and Syria for Latter, Pakistani Establishment is trying to do a Hybrid Model.
 
Yup. This was funny. :yk

What Indian posters need to understand Bangladesh is not alone. Bangladesh is allied with China and that includes military and economic cooperation.

I think Bangladesh should allow China to have a military base or two in BD just to make India nervous. :inti

Any such move will make them total antagonistic to India. And that is why they didn't want Haseena to leave in the first place.
 
Is it 1971 all over again? Pak was hoping China would intervene back then too. China even had encouragement from Nixon and Kissinger, but Iron Brother chose to stand back and watch.

Why is Pak always depending on others to fight their fight?

Pak seems to prefer to take on civilians whether in Bengali or Jordan or Mumbai
 
Is it 1971 all over again? Pak was hoping China would intervene back then too. China even had encouragement from Nixon and Kissinger, but Iron Brother chose to stand back and watch.

Why is Pak always depending on others to fight their fight?

Pak seems to prefer to take on civilians whether in Bengali or Jordan or Mumbai

It is not 1971 because there is no long distance difficulties in supply lines and no local population uprising against Pak Army.

Nobody from Pakistan is hoping or expecting China to fight a war on behalf of Pakistan or kinetically intervene.

Do you understand the first statement or should it be dumbed down even further for you to understand?

What is being said that during a war between India and Pakistan China could see an opportunity OR see its strategic interests (CPEC) being threatened and may intercede for its own Interests.

I have also said this multiple times and would like any sane and rational Indian to provide a counterintuitive to this and reasons.
 
Not true.

The rest of pakistan have a bone to pick.

sindhis. muhajirs. balochis. pashtuns. Are itching. To get a win for the team.
You have no real connection to any of them, nor do you have genuine familiarity — you can't even spell... Maybe focus on your own situation: sitting in the UAE, lamenting "11 years wasted in a madrasah." Perhaps it's time to address your academic shortcomings and intellectual gaps instead and it will be a more fruitful use of your time.
 
India isnt liked by any of its neighbours. It cant be everyone else .

Since the hindu extremists have been governing its reputation has gone down hill and continues in such direction.
 
Since the hindu extremists have been governing its reputation has gone down hill and continues in such direction.
True. Secularism made india.

Religionism destroying india. And there's no stopping this decline into the abyss.

pakistan is ibrat da nishan. india's role model. Who knew.
 
I know my views here will probably be unpopular but this military flexing by anyone, BD, India or Pakistan is utterly pointless. The focus should be on economic development and cooperation. The Kashmir issue is a thorny one and as a Pakistani, I do feel India has stolen our land from us and yet none of these states have done anything in the past to do anything to try and reach a peaceful resolution. Peace in the region is mutually beneficial to all three and yet they are all busy killing each other and engaging in game of one upmanship.
 
Not true.

The rest of pakistan have a bone to pick.

sindhis. muhajirs. balochis. pashtuns. Are itching. To get a win for the team.

If you went to Pakistan Madrasah for 11 years and then went to UAE. I can promise you, you will have the worst accent in the world, so I can’t help but read your posts with that cringe voice of yours.
 
What is the Bangladesh armed forces capability in 2025? Could they cause significant damage or occupy Indian miltary forces on that border, which would put unnecessary strain purely brought on themselves by India's political heavy-handed approach?
Their air power is negligible. They have 39 attack jets, all of which are very outdated and stand no chance. They have around 250 tanks. Their navy is also minimal.

I feel its more words of support than anything meaningful. Their air force would get overwhelmed almost instantly. While they could cause some damage with their 160,000 army and tanks there is no way they would ever put their entire military apparatus on the line for the claim made by them. As that's what it would need for any kind of serious attempt and based on their current status it would be very unlikely.

If this was a stable Pakistan, with army in the barracks, and good economy now was a golden chance to encircle India and equip Bangladesh, foster very close ties even maybe bases. It would have been a serious and a disastrous military headache for India, from 3 sides by 3 countries. Instead we are a bankrupt mess begging others with a bowl.
 
If this was a stable Pakistan, with army in the barracks, and good economy now was a golden chance to encircle India and equip Bangladesh, foster very close ties even maybe bases. It would have been a serious and a disastrous military headache for India, from 3 sides by 3 countries. Instead we are a bankrupt mess begging others with a bowl.

It's so sed bro.
 
I know my views here will probably be unpopular but this military flexing by anyone, BD, India or Pakistan is utterly pointless. The focus should be on economic development and cooperation. The Kashmir issue is a thorny one and as a Pakistani, I do feel India has stolen our land from us and yet none of these states have done anything in the past to do anything to try and reach a peaceful resolution. Peace in the region is mutually beneficial to all three and yet they are all busy killing each other and engaging in game of one upmanship.
Noble thoughts but there is only one country among the three sending killers to another country and also killing their own in their own country...so not Bangladesh until now .future is dark for them and not India are sending Govt sponsored terrorists
 
I'm not issuing any threats, nor am I presenting myself as an Islamic scholar — peaceful or otherwise. What I am doing is offering a realistic assessment of the situation.

India’s economy is performing well, and its military is large. Many Indian commentators clearly take pride in this progress. However, relying solely on air power in the event of conflict may not produce the results some expect.

Consider history:
  • The Soviet Union and later the United States failed to achieve their objectives in Vietnam and Afghanistan, despite overwhelming air superiority.
  • In Syria, it wasn’t just Russian, Turkish, or Syrian air power that shifted the tide — ground operations and political changes were essential in bringing different actors to the negotiating table.
If India strikes within Pakistani territory, it would be unrealistic to expect no retaliation.

Should war escalate, Pakistan — being the smaller power — will not respond symmetrically. Instead, it would resort to irregular and asymmetric strategies. In every such scenario, India sustains significant damage — militarily and economically. Outside investment, already slowing, would likely halt entirely, seriously harming India's development.

Furthermore, if India follows through on threats to cut off water to over 250 million people, how exactly do you think they will respond?

What part of this assessment do you disagree with, and why? Do you believe India’s military capabilities surpass those of the former USSR or the United States? Or do you believe Pakistan is somehow weaker than Vietnam or Afghanistan, despite those countries lacking comparable air capabilities?

My core point is this: a full-scale war would devastate both countries. Even if one side "wins" militarily, the economic and human costs would be staggering. And while Islam is not geographically confined and can endure beyond borders, Hinduism — tied closely to a specific region — would face existential risks if that geography is heavily damaged.

This is not a call to war. It’s a cautionary analysis about the unpredictable and ruinous consequences of escalation.

All I’m saying is that India is not an economic superpower — if it were, millions of its citizens wouldn’t be working in the Middle East for low wages. Whether Pakistanis are doing the same is beside the point; the difference is that people of Pakistan don’t go around claiming to be an economic superpower.

Similarly, India is not a military superpower on the level of the USSR, the United States, or even China. It does not possess the overwhelming might required to decisively subdue a rival like Pakistan, especially in the complex and unpredictable nature of modern warfare.
  1. There is reality
  2. and then there is "delusion" in the heads of Hindutvas
Your points are all correct but your hypothesis has a serious flaw. India doesn't have fantasy to occupy Pakistani land or rule over Pakistani people. We are not interested in a full scale war unless Pakistan responds disproportionately. In that case all bets are off. Given how Pakistan is running to foreign powers to stop a war ..they will respond proportionately and that will be the end of this action.

What India wants to do I attack the core mothership or terrorism which is Pak army. The attack will be medium scale public and a strategic target like a port airbase munitions depot..maybe a hq etc. the message being if the best time there is a terror attack..another base or port will see an attack. So there will be a price paid for sending Islamic terrorists to a sovereign country. This is the extent of Indias response.

After that Pak will of course go and attack India and strike a air force base or something similar..and that should be the end of this chapter. Else Pakistan might choose to launch a larger scale attack and India is prepared to massively retaliate at that stage.

There is also a third option. Munir wants a war to cement his second tenure. The entire Pak nation is in a state of alert burning money and fuel and this cannot be sustained for long. India is just waiting and watching for the guard to be down...no point attacking when Pak is fully mobilized. I have a hunch Pak is going to launch a massive aerial attack pre emptively and that would be fun for us.
 
Some people are closet racists and sadists who pretend to be upright by crying about long gone invaders but endorse the butchering of children present day. No reason to engage with them. These wars have brought their true colors out.
Do you mean Hafeez Saeed who you are protecting with Pak army assets...who sends killers to India and kills civilians...after asking their religion..I wouldn't say they are closet though
 
Munir wants a war to cement his second tenure.

The entire Pak nation is in a state of alert
First statement. Bullseye.

Second statement. Negative. People on streets could care less.

We are much aware of army bois' tricks since inception. A few shaheeds here and there. Then their budget increases. Then their kids enjoy european and amreekan education and passports. Rinse/repeat.
 
You stopped being factual for a long time now. Nepal, Maldives and Sri Lanka maintain good relations with India. Even Bangladesh, only after this joker regime came in things are downhill. My analysis is that bng Muslim majority have realised they have been mediocre since the creation of their state and wanted some attention. Thought they would get it in cricket but lo and behold, their team is eternal minnows. Soccer no chance. Only other thing they can leverage is their demographic, so developed deep fantasies about islamic ummah and started this overtures with Pakistan.
Brother I said waning influence not bad influence and that is an indisputable fact.

India has not been able to establish deep relations in the region at a time of massive economic growth for the country itself.

We have seen the same Indian posters who you used to use Bangladesh to taunt Pakistans lack of progress overnight make poor quality posts about Bangladeshis - just because they booted the Indian stooge.
 
First statement. Bullseye.

Second statement. Negative. People on streets could care less.

We are much aware of army bois' tricks since inception. A few shaheeds here and there. Then their budget increases. Then their kids enjoy european and amreekan education and passports. Rinse/repeat.
Fair...I meant the entire Pak armed force..
 
Your points are all correct but your hypothesis has a serious flaw. India doesn't have fantasy to occupy Pakistani land or rule over Pakistani people. We are not interested in a full scale war unless Pakistan responds disproportionately. In that case all bets are off. Given how Pakistan is running to foreign powers to stop a war ..they will respond proportionately and that will be the end of this action.

What India wants to do I attack the core mothership or terrorism which is Pak army. The attack will be medium scale public and a strategic target like a port airbase munitions depot..maybe a hq etc. the message being if the best time there is a terror attack..another base or port will see an attack. So there will be a price paid for sending Islamic terrorists to a sovereign country. This is the extent of Indias response.

After that Pak will of course go and attack India and strike a air force base or something similar..and that should be the end of this chapter. Else Pakistan might choose to launch a larger scale attack and India is prepared to massively retaliate at that stage.

There is also a third option. Munir wants a war to cement his second tenure. The entire Pak nation is in a state of alert burning money and fuel and this cannot be sustained for long. India is just waiting and watching for the guard to be down...no point attacking when Pak is fully mobilized. I have a hunch Pak is going to launch a massive aerial attack pre emptively and that would be fun for us.

Maybe India will bomb some trees again. As long as it's just trees Pak might show restraint. Any hard target and India will get an appropriate response. And if that happens, the ball will be in the Indian court, just like it is now. Pak won't attack first. The war hysteria is a commitment trap that Modi and BJP have fallen into, so they're the ones who might make a stupid decision.
 
Do you mean Hafeez Saeed who you are protecting with Pak army assets...who sends killers to India and kills civilians...after asking their religion..I wouldn't say they are closet though

Kashmir is not India. And secondly catch the killers before blaming Pak army. Your intelligence can't even do that.
 
So much for isolating Pakistan. Two of India's neighbours are supporting Pakistan. Modi's narrative has failed
 
So much for isolating Pakistan. Two of India's neighbours are supporting Pakistan. Modi's narrative has failed
This is new becos?

China has been anti India for along time. Bangladesh has been anti India for most of its existence. why do you tink India building a fence along Bangladesh since the mid 70's?
 
This is new becos?

China has been anti India for along time. Bangladesh has been anti India for most of its existence. why do you tink India building a fence along Bangladesh since the mid 70's?

To keep out the migrants. The last Bangladesh government was pro India. As for China, many of you were gloating that they're not supporting Pakistan's narrative this time. Anyways we don't need either to interfere. Pak army is enough to handle any Indian misadventure
 
Your points are all correct but your hypothesis has a serious flaw. India doesn't have fantasy to occupy Pakistani land or rule over Pakistani people. We are not interested in a full scale war unless Pakistan responds disproportionately. In that case all bets are off. Given how Pakistan is running to foreign powers to stop a war ..they will respond proportionately and that will be the end of this action.

What India wants to do I attack the core mothership or terrorism which is Pak army. The attack will be medium scale public and a strategic target like a port airbase munitions depot..maybe a hq etc. the message being if the best time there is a terror attack..another base or port will see an attack. So there will be a price paid for sending Islamic terrorists to a sovereign country. This is the extent of Indias response.

After that Pak will of course go and attack India and strike a air force base or something similar..and that should be the end of this chapter. Else Pakistan might choose to launch a larger scale attack and India is prepared to massively retaliate at that stage.

There is also a third option. Munir wants a war to cement his second tenure. The entire Pak nation is in a state of alert burning money and fuel and this cannot be sustained for long. India is just waiting and watching for the guard to be down...no point attacking when Pak is fully mobilized. I have a hunch Pak is going to launch a massive aerial attack pre emptively and that would be fun for us.
Your desire may be to establish a "new normal" but it is against International norms and regulations. Pakistan has Kulbushan Yadav in Jail and convicted of meddling in the internal affairs of Pakistan (in Baluchistan). If Pakistan was to use this as precedence and attack some sort of facility (inside India) as a strategic facility, would that be acceptable and allowed by India?

The attack will be medium scale public and a strategic target like a port airbase munitions depot..maybe a hq etc. the message being if the best time there is a terror attack..another base or port will see an attack. So there will be a price paid for sending Terrorists to a sovereign country. This will be the extent of Pakistans' response.

Is that acceptable to you?
 
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