If Pakistan beat Bangladesh, it will be a good World Cup regardless of whether we make the semis

[Slog]

Discuss.

Don’t forget a literal walk over against our IFC tournament bunnies Sri Lanka was snatched away due to win.

Only the WI loss is something which was terrible imo. Rest has been on par

 

[DRsohail]

Discuss.

Don’t forget a literal walk over against our IFC tournament bunnies Sri Lanka was snatched away due to win.

Only the WI loss is something which was terrible imo. Rest has been on par

I have made a thread over 2015 and 2019 wc performance .yes we have done better this year.

 

[Leeon1994]

I want Pakistan to badly lose to Bangladesh if we do not qualify. It will bring good changes in our Cricket system.

The likes of Inzamam, Azhar Mehmood, Sarfaraz, Malik, Hafeez need to leave.

 

[Mamoon]

Our World Cup ended when we got shot for a 100 vs West Indies who chased the target in 13.4 overs.

That was what we produced after we were given the best possible preparation leading up to the World Cup.A complete and utter disaster.

Our performance against Afghanistan proved that we are still a circus team regardless of the impressive wins over England, New Zealand and South Africa.

 

[Hamza_]

Even India barely won against AFG.

 

[Ahmed_99]

InshAllah we can still progress!!

But fully agree. It's good that we've beaten top teams such as England and New Zealand which we have struggled recently to do. We have to also respect the way in which the team have bounced back after first that West Indies game and then after all the controversy around the time of the Indian game

Yes we could have done better but we can hopefully build on this world cup going forward.

 

[Obaidd]

If Pak wins against Bang, this WC would be considered respectable for Pakistan.

However, the ‘captain’ has to go. He’s just not 21st century.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I want Pakistan to badly lose to Bangladesh if we do not qualify. It will bring good changes in our Cricket system.

The likes of Inzamam, Azhar Mehmood, Sarfaraz, Malik, Hafeez need to leave.

No it won't

 

[shaz619]

Our World Cup ended when we got shot for a 100 vs West Indies who chased the target in 13.4 overs.

That was what we produced after we were given the best possible preparation leading up to the World Cup.A complete and utter disaster.

Our performance against Afghanistan proved that we are still a circus team regardless of the impressive wins over England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Lets give credit to the West Indies, they were fantastic and came with a plan which caught pak off guard big time with the short pitched bowling, they were successful with these tactics for a while until teams began to prepare better.

Afghan also ran India close don't forget that, and it wasn't an easy pitch to bat on against their spinners which are actually pretty decent.

With that horrid start in mind I think we can say Pak have done fairly okay, I doubt you had much expectation from this lot regardless so I find it surprising you'd overly criticise a no.5 placed team which you didn't expect in the semis or any where close to qualifying.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

I think it a fair statement, it's been a good WC, apart from WI game, wish we had scored may be 200 runs.

 

[barah_admi]

Discuss.

Don’t forget a literal walk over against our IFC tournament bunnies Sri Lanka was snatched away due to win.

Only the WI loss is something which was terrible imo. Rest has been on par

I agree.

I personally did not expect Pakistan to finish 5th, which is a terrific position for such a young side, one with so many problems leading into the tournament and a side which can only get better once Malik and Hafeez leave post tournament.

I am quite upbeat, especially as it proved Pakistan can score big runs, and that there is hope in the bowling with Shaheen and tournament wins over England, SA, NZ and Bangladesh are very impressive.

 

[slipcatch]

Our World Cup ended when we got shot for a 100 vs West Indies who chased the target in 13.4 overs.

That was what we produced after we were given the best possible preparation leading up to the World Cup.A complete and utter disaster.

Our performance against Afghanistan proved that we are still a circus team regardless of the impressive wins over England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Ronay wali mohalay ki khala, always trying to find negative or trying to turn everything negative pertaining to self to feel like she is contributing to make everyone better. You aren't.

OP, Had SL game wasn't rained out then we would have been fine.

Still have a chance, lets what happen.

 

[Abdullah719]

With seniors like Hafeez and Malik and a lot of players in their first 2-3 years of international cricket, I think that outcome would be considered decent.

 

[Hamza_]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

That WI match was played at a pitch where bounce was like that from a tennis ball. Totally diferent as compared to sort of wickets we played on during the England Series going into world cup.

I think you should chill down a bit, we have played much better than anticipated results. SL Match was abandoned whereas AUS match could have been won.

Credit to players like Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and Mohammad Amir who have stepped up and given decent performances.

 

[Ucdkee]

No we are not a circus team. Afghanistan has world class spinners who bowled really well yesterday. Still we did win the game.

We are hearing these comments when infact we actually won the game. God knows what would have been the reaction had we lost the game.

Yes there were wreckless shots from some of our batsmen but that is part of the game. In pressure situations batsmen do play wreckless shots. Do watch New Zealand's batting against Australia.

If we beat Bangladesh, it would be a far better campaign than the one which ended in 2015.

Please learn to give credit where it is due.

 

[Technics 1210]

If Pakistan beat Bangladesh and make it to the Semi Finals, then Pakistan will win the World Cup.

You can mark my words for prosperity.

 

[Syed1]

It's been a good WC.... We would have qualified had the easy win against SL not been snatched from us due to rain.

 

[slipcatch]

If Pakistan beat Bangladesh and make it to the Semi Finals, then Pakistan will win the World Cup.

You can mark my words for prosperity.

If that were to happen then what would wrist slitter mohalay ki khala do to downplay Pakistani winning the world cup?

 

[Obaidd]

It's been a good WC.... We would have qualified had the easy win against SL not been snatched from us due to rain.

Don't you agree that Sarfaraz is not a good option as captain for Pakistan’s future?

 

[Technics 1210]

If that were to happen then what would wrist slitter mohalay ki aunties do to downplay Pakistani winning the world cup?

Oh, that's easy, they'd call the WC win a fluke.

Even now, the same people who have utter disdain towards Pakistan are complaining about not being in the SF spot (yet) would be the first to state that Pakistan fluked it to the KO stages. Evidenced by the fact some numpties are saying Pakistan deserve to go home even though they still have a chance to qualify!

 

[Mamoon]

If you gloat over Pakistan’s unpredictability, you cannot say for certain that they would have beaten Sri Lanka.

But yes, since that game didn’t happen and we are on our way to Heathrow, we can keep insisting that we would have beaten Sri Lanka by 5,000 runs or 50 wickets.

 

[Mueez]

Key moments for Pakistan which they failed to capitalize:

- against Australia where we were 127-1 in 26 overs if I’m not wrong.

- not getting wickets with the new ball against India.

- not being able to handle short-balls of West Indies.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

If we manage to beat BD as well then Pak will have done better than expected.

Who would have thought we would beat Eng, NZ and SA? Almost even beat Australia.

For this pretty below standards it has been a decent world cup.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] even you'll have to agree that they have done better than their worth. For a 6/7th ranking team they have already overachieved.

 

[farazaidi]

If we dont qualify for the semis, for me the Highlight of the world cup will be Babar Azam's century against NZ, it was sublime. In high pressure game against a top quality attack on tricky pitch, he held his own. The return of Haris Sohail and Amir's resurgence are other positives !

Moving forward, its clear that Inzi has to go. 2 years since the champions trophy and just couldnt build on that success thanks to inconsistent selection process. Faheem Ashraf & Junaid Khan mishandled, Zafar Gohar & M. Rizwan ignored. Malik and Hafeez were the biggest burden on the team, Sarfraz is not a leader however I doubt if we have a better wicket keeper batsman back home (Rizwan is terrible behind wickets).

I hope we dont go for wholesome changes, but captaincy change is a must. My choice would be Amir, he is the smartest player in the team but I doubt he'll get it because of the past

 

[QalandarFan]

Our World Cup ended when we got shot for a 100 vs West Indies who chased the target in 13.4 overs.

That was what we produced after we were given the best possible preparation leading up to the World Cup.A complete and utter disaster.

Our performance against Afghanistan proved that we are still a circus team regardless of the impressive wins over England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Fully agree, but you also forgot to add that India's pathetic showing against Afghanistan and now even England show what a joke of a team they are as well right?

 

[Technics 1210]

If you gloat over Pakistan’s unpredictability, you cannot say for certain that they would have beaten Sri Lanka.

But yes, since that game didn’t happen and we are on our way to Heathrow, we can keep insisting that we would have beaten Sri Lanka by 5,000 runs or 50 wickets.

But we can say for certain you were wrong about Pakistan vs ENG, SA, and NZ.

Pakistan is not on it's way to Heathrow, Pakistan still have a chance to qualify for the SF - despite your incorrect predictions.

 

[slipcatch]

If you gloat over Pakistan’s unpredictability, you cannot say for certain that they would have beaten Sri Lanka.

But yes, since that game didn’t happen and we are on our way to Heathrow, we can keep insisting that we would have beaten Sri Lanka by 5,000 runs or 50 wickets.

Only 10 wickets per inning and even Australia has never scored 5,000 runs in 50 overs.

 

[QalandarFan]

Key moments for Pakistan which they failed to capitalize:

- against Australia where we were 127-1 in 26 overs if I’m not wrong.

- not getting wickets with the new ball against India.

- not being able to handle short-balls of West Indies.

The West Indies game was bound to happen if you think about it. Coming off 4 300+ scores against England, it was about time for the batting to have a blip. Not to fussed with that tbh, I'd just put it down as a lapse. The biggest loss for us was our sure win against SL, we could also increased our NRR quite a bit against them. Also NZ got lucky with their washout against India otherwise they would be sitting at 10 points. We've been a bit unlucky in this World Cup is all. The future is looking bright though!

 

[Mamoon]

Fully agree, but you also forgot to add that India's pathetic showing against Afghanistan and now even England show what a joke of a team they are as well right?

India are second (top ranked right now actually) in the rankings and an elite team. Losing to England is no shame because they are also an elite team. Yes they weren’t at their best before today, but they are still an elite side.

As far as the Afghanistan match is concerned, it was an off-day for India. The difference between India and Pakistan is that their off-day is a poor performance, our off-day is a top performance, and that is why they are 1st/2nd and we are 6th, and that is why we had a 13 match losing streak coming into the World Cup.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of comparing Pakistan and India at the moment.

 

[Hasan123]

I didn't expect us to get to the semis at the start of the tournament but since when did not getting to the next round become a good tournament?

Our standards are slowly dropping. Losing to West Indies in that manner was not good enough. The Australia game was in our hands and we kept on letting it slip.

Some good results but an overall poor performance.

 

[Captain]

I think Pakistan as a team fought well... Captaincy will still a lot to be desired of after this world cup

 

[QalandarFan]

If we dont qualify for the semis, for me the Highlight of the world cup will be Babar Azam's century against NZ, it was sublime. In high pressure game against a top quality attack on tricky pitch, he held his own. The return of Haris Sohail and Amir's resurgence are other positives !

Moving forward, its clear that Inzi has to go. 2 years since the champions trophy and just couldnt build on that success thanks to inconsistent selection process. Faheem Ashraf & Junaid Khan mishandled, Zafar Gohar & M. Rizwan ignored. Malik and Hafeez were the biggest burden on the team, Sarfraz is not a leader however I doubt if we have a better wicket keeper batsman back home (Rizwan is terrible behind wickets).

I hope we dont go for wholesome changes, but captaincy change is a must. My choice would be Amir, he is the smartest player in the team but I doubt he'll get it because of the past

Doesn't matter who the selector is next our Top 4 will be the same for years to come so the future seems bright with the bat just need some solid lower orders hitters. I hope we try Saif Badar / Saud Shakeel at 5 as well. Bowling will come good with youngsters like Shaheen and Shadab to continue to play for the next 4 years. I'm looking forward to the next world cup it will probably be the first time we know what the top 4 of our batting will look like 4 years prior. With Imam/Fakhar/Babar/Haris and Hopefully Saif Badar things are looking good. Plus next world cup is India we always do good in subcontinent conditions outside of UAE, in LOI tourneys.

 

[Mamoon]

If we manage to beat BD as well then Pak will have done better than expected.

Who would have thought we would beat Eng, NZ and SA? Almost even beat Australia.

For this pretty below standards it has been a decent world cup.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] even you'll have to agree that they have done better than their worth. For a 6/7th ranking team they have already overachieved.

Have they? 6th ranking means missing out on the top 4 but not finishing 9th or 10th. We are heading that way so I would call it a par performance for our mediocre team.

 

[QalandarFan]

I didn't expect us to get to the semis at the start of the tournament but since when did not getting to the next round become a good tournament?

Our standards are slowly dropping. Losing to West Indies in that manner was not good enough. The Australia game was in our hands and we kept on letting it slip.

Some good results but an overall poor performance.

Dude you called this team worse than SA, and said that this is also the worst team we have ever selected for a World Cup....

 

[Hasan123]

Dude you called this team worse than SA, and said that this is also the worst team we have ever selected for a World Cup....

South Africa are not a strong side but they should have performed better than they did. Also they gave India a close fight , could have beaten NZ as well, and who knows what could have happened versus West Indies?

Also South Africa performances doesn't mean we had a great tournament.

We should not be celebrating not getting to the semis. That's all my point.

Well how many times have gone out in the first round of the WC? Such a strong team doesn't get knocked out in the 1st round.

 

[dildilpak]

Not bad results at all, considering we lost 11 straight games before entering this tournament, but perhaps this team would have been exposed more if the cup was not being played in England.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

New Zealand will beat England

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Winning against BD will be hard. They have had the wood over Pakistan recently.

Overall, it will be a good world cup, given Pakistan's form going into it. But small scale overhaul at team level and large scale overhaul at team management/PCB/domestic structure level will be necessary to improve the team.

 

[Technics 1210]

When Pakistan beat top sides like ENG, SA, and NZ - Pakistan caught the teams on their bad day and fluked to victory!

When Pakistan get beaten, then Pakistan is medicore and does not deserve to be in the SFs!

Unreal logic!

 

[QalandarFan]

South Africa are not a strong side but they should have performed better than they did. Also they gave India a close fight , could have beaten NZ as well, and who knows what could have happened versus West Indies?

Also South Africa performances doesn't mean we had a great tournament.

We should not be celebrating not getting to the semis. That's all my point.

Well how many times have gone out in the first round of the WC? Such a strong team doesn't get knocked out in the 1st round.

Ok if SA gets close L's than it's "they really should of won/who knows what could of happened, etc, etc" On the other hand if Pakistan loses no matter how close "Worst Pakistan team/ our cricket is finished/ we should stop playing cricket, etc, etc" Do you not see the hypocrisy right there?

Further if you still think after beating England, NZ, and SA this is our worst World Cup side ever I don't know what to say. This team is leaps and bounds better than the 2003, 2007, and 2015 team. For some reason just looking at the squad wasn't enough and now even the results are not enough. Even if things don't go our way from here we will finish 5th. If the game against SL didn't get washed out we would of made it to the Semi's.

Plus your use of the word 1st round provides no context in this sense. There are only 2 rounds Group Stage and Knockouts. You keep saying 1st round like there are 7 rounds in this WC and we're getting knocked out in the first.

 

[QalandarFan]

New Zealand will beat England

I'm praying!!! Hope you guys can beat India too so we can get an essential QF!

 

[MMHS]

If PAK can beat BD, I'll definitely take their performance better than 2015 - they did enough to qualify for SF, just lost to the luck of Kiwis. Apart from possible 1 point loss (against SRL), Kiwis actually build their NRR by bashing SRL inside 15 overs and BD, PAK didn't get the chance.

But .............., if Sarfra'z team doesn't win that one - highlight for PAK in 2019 will remain one upset win against top favorites ENG. PAK better win that game .....

 

[gazza619]

New Zealand will beat England

IA. Its written in the stars

 

[Hasan123]

Ok if SA gets close L's than it's "they really should of won/who knows what could of happened, etc, etc" On the other hand if Pakistan loses no matter how close "Worst Pakistan team/ our cricket is finished/ we should stop playing cricket, etc, etc" Do you not see the hypocrisy right there?

Further if you still think after beating England, NZ, and SA this is our worst World Cup side ever I don't know what to say. This team is leaps and bounds better than the 2003, 2007, and 2015 team. For some reason just looking at the squad wasn't enough and now even the results are not enough. Even if things don't go our way from here we will finish 5th. If the game against SL didn't get washed out we would of made it to the Semi's.

Plus your use of the word 1st round provides no context in this sense. There are only 2 rounds Group Stage and Knockouts. You keep saying 1st round like there are 7 rounds in this WC and we're getting knocked out in the first.

If you think we had a good WC, that is fine. I don't think it was that great. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[QalandarFan]

Winning against BD will be hard. They have had the wood over Pakistan recently.

Overall, it will be a good world cup, given Pakistan's form going into it. But small scale overhaul at team level and large scale overhaul at team management/PCB/domestic structure level will be necessary to improve the team.

In the past 3 years in ODI's they've beat us once. They whitewashed us with the worst team we ever selected in ODI's in 2015 which was quite a while ago. All this wood over us recently is getting exaggerated. People are acting like we have a record against them like we do in Tests against Australia in Australia.

 

[QalandarFan]

If you think we had a good WC, that is fine. I don't think it was that great. But we can agree to disagree.

I guess we'll have to on this

 

[MMHS]

New Zealand will beat England

Won't - Poms will hammer the bird out of Kiwis. I am just wondering how poor and how lucky the Kiwis are in this WC - one master batsman, one aged top quality batsman, couple of hacks making career in 50 metre grounds and a seem attack that's lethal in particular condition and obviously very good fielding.

 

[Boi]

We would have overachieved if we end up 5th considering our ranking and form leading in to the tournament.

 

[Hasan123]

In the past 3 years in ODI's they've beat us once. They whitewashed us with the worst team we ever selected in ODI's in 2015 which was quite a while ago. All this wood over us recently is getting exaggerated. People are acting like we have a record against them like we do in Tests against Australia in Australia.

How many times have we played Bangladesh since that series in ODIs ? I can only remember the Asia Cup which they won.

 

[Hasan123]

I guess we'll have to on this

If we beat Bangladesh, our campaign will be better than I thought it would have. I would rather have the campaign we have actually had . Than the one I feared.

 

[QalandarFan]

How many times have we played Bangladesh since that series in ODIs ? I can only remember the Asia Cup which they won.

That's what I'm saying we've played them once in the past 3 years and people are talking like they've beat us 7/7 times or something. That win was also due to a stupid batting show, idk what was up with our batting in that Asia Cup.

 

[Ronaldo7]

How many times have we played Bangladesh since that series in ODIs ? I can only remember the Asia Cup which they won.

3 vs them in 2015
The next one was in 2018
And that's it

 

[QalandarFan]

If we beat Bangladesh, our campaign will be better than I thought it would have. I would rather have the campaign we have actually had . Than the one I feared.

I feared for the worse too after the Windies game but the boys turned it around nicely after that against England. We still can't seem to overcome the demons of facing India in a world cup though unfortunately. If we played against them like we did against NZ and selected that same side we might have beat them, however.

 

[QalandarFan]

Won't - Poms will hammer the bird out of Kiwis. I am just wondering how poor and how lucky the Kiwis are in this WC - one master batsman, one aged top quality batsman, couple of hacks making career in 50 metre grounds and a seem attack that's lethal in particular condition and obviously very good fielding.

Nobody got as lucky with the rain as NZ did!

 

[Hasan123]

3 vs them in 2015
The next one was in 2018
And that's it

So they have won the last 4 ODIs against us.

 

[UP]

When Pakistan beat top sides like ENG, SA, and NZ - Pakistan caught the teams on their bad day and fluked to victory!

When Pakistan get beaten, then Pakistan is medicore and does not deserve to be in the SFs!

Unreal logic!

Troll people like to bring history into the equation but whoever plays best takes the cup home. If we go by history, then Australia should be handed the cup because they are the most successful nation. I mean what’s the point of tournaments then if people will bring history all the time? What matters is now and whoever plays better will be the winner in the end. When the winner will presented with the cup and a $4 million cheque they will not get asked what did you do 8 years ago? Some people are sick and like to troll.

 

[Hasan123]

I feared for the worse too after the Windies game but the boys turned it around nicely after that against England. We still can't seem to overcome the demons of facing India in a world cup though unfortunately. If we played against them like we did against NZ and selected that same side we might have beat them, however.

The hammering against West Indies cost us. If it was a close lost we may have got through . The performances against Australia and India were also unacceptable. But we have come back well. I have to give credit for that.

 

[Ronaldo7]

So they have won the last 4 ODIs against us.

Yes 3 being in 2015

 

[Hasan123]

Yes 3 being in 2015

We can beat Bangladesh but I fear England will beat NZ so Friday's game will almost be a dead rubber.

 

[Slog]

As far as the Afghanistan match is concerned, it was an off-day for India. The difference between India and Pakistan is that their off-day is a poor performance, our off-day is a top performance, and that is why they are 1st/2nd and we are 6th, and that is why we had a 13 match losing streak coming into the World Cup.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of comparing Pakistan and India at the moment.

Not very convincing argument.

Anyways it’s tournament cricket. Otherwise South Africa would have been 3 time champions.

Pakistan would have walked over SL as they are our bunnies like we are WI bunnies but smash them in bilaterals.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not very convincing argument.

Anyways it’s tournament cricket. Otherwise South Africa would have been 3 time champions.

Pakistan would have walked over SL as they are our bunnies like we are WI bunnies but smash them in bilaterals.

Not to mention, AFG almost beat SL too! So that's an off day for SL!

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Won't - Poms will hammer the bird out of Kiwis. I am just wondering how poor and how lucky the Kiwis are in this WC - one master batsman, one aged top quality batsman, couple of hacks making career in 50 metre grounds and a seem attack that's lethal in particular condition and obviously very good fielding.

Couldn’t agree more, Mushy why boy why

 

[MMHS]

Nobody got as lucky with the rain as NZ did!

Their NRR is also built on bashing a pathetic SRL team inside 15 overs and both PAK, BD got robbed .......

 

[Ronaldo7]

We can beat Bangladesh but I fear England will beat NZ so Friday's game will almost be a dead rubber.

Eng will most likely beat nz. Bd in my view will be a dead rubber but will still hold value as we have to break the 4 match streak.

 

[BakuGM]

NZ has not beaten any of the blue bloods of cricket with the exception of an out of form SA. They are the luckiest team in the World Cup as they played all the minnows and got a washout against India. I am sick that they are making the semi as anyone of Pak, BD, SL or WI will be better completion against Aus than them. Of course they still might beat Eng but I would give it a less than 1% chance.

 

[Theo_14]

We got absolutely destroyed by NZ and England when we played an ODI series with them.

Following that - our ranking in ODI speaks for itself.

Given the below performance over the past 2-3 years in ODI’s, lack of planning/resources and hardly any ‘gems’ coming through I genuinely believe Pakistan have overachieved even if we lose to Bangladesh who no doubt are a far better side than us.

What Wasim Khan and co now need to do is improve the domestic - prioritise fitness - get rid of Azhar Mahmood and keep the current core of players with likes of Hafeez/Malik being kicked out.

Pak U19s seem to be doing well so hopefully things will look good ahead; a transition is needed and Wasim Khan is the right guy to do it.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

If Pakistan beat Bangladesh and make it to the Semi Finals, then Pakistan will win the World Cup.

You can mark my words for prosperity.

96 QF

99 F

03 Group

07 Group

11 SF

15 Group

Infact, since 92 Pakistan have made QF, SF and Final on 3 occasions and lost at that stage.

1. What makes you think this time it should be WC Pakistan?

2. Why is the myth propogated that Pakistan are "unstoppable" when last 27 years of 50 year WC's has shown anything but that?

 

[Ronaldo7]

96 QF

99 F

03 Group

07 Group

11 SF

15 Group

Infact, since 92 Pakistan have made QF, SF and Final on 3 occasions and lost at that stage.

1. What makes you think this time it should be WC Pakistan?

2. Why is the myth propogated that Pakistan are "unstoppable" when last 27 years of 50 year WC's has shown anything but that?

2015 was actually QF.

 

[PakLFC]

Anything less then a semi final will be a failure. Everyone else thrashed the West Indies where as they beat us! It always happens to us that we can never defeat them when it matters.

 

[BakuGM]

Tournament play is.all about momentum and nothing to do with the past one year performance. Paksitan has peaked just at the right time but unfortunately might not get a crack at a semi final spot.

 

[AliMurtaza]

Our World Cup ended when we got shot for a 100 vs West Indies who chased the target in 13.4 overs.

That was what we produced after we were given the best possible preparation leading up to the World Cup.A complete and utter disaster.

Our performance against Afghanistan proved that we are still a circus team regardless of the impressive wins over England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Just keeps on harping about the same points in every thread. Not much original and new from him for the last few years.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I think if Pakistan lose to Bangladesh it will be a poor WC.

Winning and not qualifying will be an acceptable WC.

Winning and qualifying for semis will be an achievement and great run.

And winning the WC would be utter euphoric blah blah adjectives.

 

[Technics 1210]

96 QF

99 F

03 Group

07 Group

11 SF

15 Group

Infact, since 92 Pakistan have made QF, SF and Final on 3 occasions and lost at that stage.

1. What makes you think this time it should be WC Pakistan?

2. Why is the myth propogated that Pakistan are "unstoppable" when last 27 years of 50 year WC's has shown anything but that?

What the last WCs have shown is that Pakistan has the 2nd best W/L ratio in ALL WCs, batting first.

It's called optimism, plus I have confidence in the Pakistan team this year round. Nothing to do with the eerie similarities of 1992.

 

[The Yorker]

Its been an acceptable performance overall with a team not considered to be strong and wuth very poor form pre the world cup and bringing in players last minute. The possibility remains that Pakistan can reach the semifinals. Remember that had rain not washed our match against sri Lamka we would be in a much more stronger position. Even if we do not qualify for the semis I am happy with team. I believe with new blood coming and some of the old guard retiring the team will be stronger in the longer term

 

[Swing]

Our world cup chances are very much alive even if England win against New Zealand as well. Afghanistan ran India pretty close as well so it's no big deal. As you have already said, we recorded some impressive wins against England and New Zealand, two teams which have looked very dangerous in this cup.

Overall, if we beat Bangladesh as well this team will have punched well above its weight regardless of whether or not we make it to the semis or not.

 

[farazaidi]

Doesn't matter who the selector is next our Top 4 will be the same for years to come so the future seems bright with the bat just need some solid lower orders hitters. I hope we try Saif Badar / Saud Shakeel at 5 as well. Bowling will come good with youngsters like Shaheen and Shadab to continue to play for the next 4 years. I'm looking forward to the next world cup it will probably be the first time we know what the top 4 of our batting will look like 4 years prior. With Imam/Fakhar/Babar/Haris and Hopefully Saif Badar things are looking good. Plus next world cup is India we always do good in subcontinent conditions outside of UAE, in LOI tourneys.

yeah that is one positive as I said, but its imperative that Malik & Hafeez are dropped immediately and never considered again even if the youngsters are failing.

I hope Wasim Khan is able to make the drastic changes our domestic cricket needs. Unfortunately he is facing a lot of resistance but I'm hoping against hope that, with the help from PM Imran Khan, he is successful in revamping our domestic cricket

 

[hass]

Bangladesh who no doubt are a far better side than us.

They’re clearly a stronger batting unit but their bowling in these conditions is so unbelievably poor. As for fielding I don’t see much in it.

The dynamic between each sides skill set is similar to the 90’s and early-to-mid 2000’s Pakistan-India comparisons.

That old conversation of our bowlers vs their batsmen is a lot more relevant to the Pakistan and Bangladesh rivalry now.

 

[Kriketer]

Been a great performance so far from Pakistan. Performed the way we love, downs and ups that's just Pakistan for you. If they win against Bangladesh then I ll be totally satisfied

I would disregard what muhallay ki roondo khala aka
Mamoo ji says. He wrote off Pakistan completely against SA, NZ and England and had to eat his words real bad. A dhe*t in every sense who doesn't let any oppurtunity go to belittle Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

I think Amir needs a lengthy rest. Rebuild the entire pace bowling department after the wc.

Wahab Riaz has been a great servant for Pakistan in ICC tournaments, but he needs to call it quits.

Hassan Ali needs a few seasons in the domestic scene. Inject a new pace battery. Build up lads like Hasnain, Musa and Shaheen. These boys should be bowling 145-150 regularly soon.

Let’s look at the spinners who are taking big wickets and compare them with ours, I don’t think Pakistani spinners are of that premier quality. This is a must and it is necessary to identify those premier spinners in the domestic scene.

Batting looks decent, Imam wants to score runs. Fakhar has been poor, need another reliable opener with Imam. I’m inclined to say that Harris Sohail should be promoted to open. Hafeez, Malik and Sarfaraz need to be replaced

 

[The Viper]

I think so. Narrowly missing out on the Semi finals would still be respectable considering the losing streak prior to the WC. A few games cost us. The agme vs Windies decimated the nrr and The game vs Aus could ahve been won as Pakistan looked in pole position but collapsed as usual.