"If you've had a fluke CT win & Allah helped you, it doesn't mean you can relax" : Shoaib Akhtar

[Abdullah719]

"If you've had a fluke CT win & Allah helped you, it doesn't mean you can relax" : Shoaib Akhtar

Shoaib Akhtar speaking on TV after the fourth ODI:

"In today's cricket, 300 runs is not a difficult score to get"

"de Grandhomme showed us that playing sensibly, you can play good strokes on this ground"

"I saw many flaws in Sarfaraz's captaincy in this game"

"Amir did not bowl a bouncer to de Grandhomme who had just come in to bat, there was no slip for de Grandhomme, singles were being allowed easily"

"Whenever Wasim, Waqar and I were asked to bowl in such conditions, we always took wickets for the team"

"Amir, Hasan and Rumman all ran in without any hurry to bowl"

"no bouncers were bowled to de Grandhomme, and then Shadab was brought in instead of fast-bowlers bowling bouncers"

"de Grandhomme was playing our bowlers like they were little children"

"This team is not capable of becoming the top team in ODI and Tests"

"This wicket was easy to play on and it was a 300-350 run wicket"

"Many of us had high hopes that we had become a very good ODI team"

"Have our fast-bowlers decided that they will become T20 bowlers and not ODI bowlers?"

"We dont have any fast-bowlers who can bowl 10 overs"

"After CT I asked some of the players pls dont waste this period and concentrate on fitness but seems they did not pay attention as they did not play enough matches and their fitness was low"

"If you have had a fluke in CT and ALLAH has helped you due to people's duas it does not mean yo can relax"

"We have to demand performances which arent just for keeping ones place in the team"

 

[babajee]

Someone’s happy ....

 

[MenInG]

What have you done Shoaib!?

 

[TeymurBlake]

WOW nice going Shoaib thanks for enlighting us with your views on the Champions Trophy win. Its not like you have a cabinet full of trophies that you won in your prestigous career. I bet you have numerous Champions Trophy medals in cabinet

 

[deems]

This guy jumps to conclusions after every game..He is too emotional and sometimes talks trash..
However, made valid points about poor bowling and captaincy re de grandhomme.

 

[srh]

Someone’s happy ....

deserves IPL contract now

 

[deems]

WOW nice going Shoaib thanks for enlighting us with your views on the Champions Trophy win. Its not like you have a cabinet full of trophies that you won in your prestigous career. I bet you have numerous Champions Trophy medals in cabinet

Our former players have no analytical skills.
It's like they've never played the game.
Really poor I must say!

 

[DRsohail]

Then why they cant win this series with dua,s...yaar.

 

[Pete Rose]

I do like the fact that our experts reflect the voice of the fans accurately. Which begs the question, why not bring in ordinary fans to do this post commentary

 

[bujhee kom]

Shoaib is half right. It was not fluke for Pakistan but lots of things came together at the same time. Conditions were helpful, the replacement stars performed and so on.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Our former players have no analytical skills.
It's like they've never played the game.
Really poor I must say!

It is, its like they have no idea what some players are doing the team. Are they even qualified to being an analysist or are they just being brought in for being former players.

 

[Markhor]

"In today's cricket, 300 runs is not a difficult score to get"

Then why did you say before the series:

"Pakistan batting will need to score 230+ in ODIs to give the bowlers a chance"

Akhtar is too emotional a pundit, his mood swings like an ordinary fan.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

 

[sjahmed23]

So damn emotional and unprofessional... I wonder who allows this sortve behavior to be mainstream. No wonder people have no patience to do anything meaningful these days as everyone seeks instant gratification.

 

[R3verse Swing]

It cannot be a fluke if the power of duwa worked; duwa means Allah bestowed the victory in other words it was destined. (Going by Shoaib's logic).

I guess Shoaib Akhtar is hurt because he never won an ICC medal and he feels his 161KPH delivery was also a fluke, god kissed his delivery for extra oomph. Muwa!

 

[Ahson8]

Well atleast they won an ICC trophy. You never did.

 

[MRSN]

Very emotional post match analysis but it's expected after such thrashing.

But this was a golden.

"We have to demand performances which arent just for keeping ones place in the team"

 

[Savak]

I think in a nutshell what he was saying was that just because this team won the CT does not mean it is a good ODI and T-20 side and he is right.

Mickey Arthur keeps talking about modernizing Pakistani Cricket and having hitters as openers, in the middle order and in the lower order but so far he is all talk and nothing else. He has done nothing to change the dynamics of the team since the England ODI Series 2016 trashing, his selections have been very reactive rather than proactive. Just because Malik or Hafeez or Sarfaraz scores in a dead rubber does not mean that their selections are right going forward.

 

[BaankeJi]

If he called the CT victory a fluke, then it is morale breaking for the team. Is he a well wisher or an enemy?

 

[Buffet]

Absurd comments. Pakistan won because they played better than their oppositions in 3-4 successive games.

Calling it a fluke or coming it due to religion is taking the credit away from Pakistani team. Having said that, Pakistan is not a gun ODI team by any stretch and many fans were reading too much into performance of 3-4 matches. May be Shoaib was one of them and feeling disappointed to come out with comments like this.

 

[pakistani pride]

LOL. shoaib you were an amazing bowler but never won an icc trophy.

We won the CT cause during the KO games the team stood up and was in amazing form.

 

[deems]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

Since when did prayer become related to Islam only?
Your last point isn't relevant.
Islam isn't the only religion in the world. Believers from all faith can pray!

 

[MRSN]

The CT win's credit goes to our bowlers only. Pitches suited our bowlers especially with reverse swing. There was nothing much oppositions could do. That deserved title win. It's very tempting to use fluke word for some people after looking at current performance but you cannot take away all the hard work by our bowlers in that tournament. It's the batting that is not raising itself to the established standards.

 

[coy0607]

Then why they cant win this series with dua,s...yaar.

because their aren't enough of them

in CT they were 10000x

 

[Usman Chadda]

The CT win's credit goes to our bowlers only. Pitches suited our bowlers especially with reverse swing. There was nothing much oppositions could do. That deserved title win. It's very tempting to use fluke word for some people after looking at current performance but you cannot take away all the hard work by our bowlers in that tournament. It's the batting that is not raising itself to the established standards.

LOI games are won by batting power-houses. Case in point today's game, Colin de Grandhomme batting at number 7 ripped us apart at a crucial stage. Pakistan can never be a good ODI team until we have a good batting line-up. In the meanwhile we have to hope our bowlers go on an insane run of form like what happened in the CT to win us something substantial.

 

[Railu Katta]

PP fluke expert incoming to give his expert advice in fluking a tournament. Just wait and watch

 

[Bewal Express]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

God does not watch Australia and doesn't worry about them.

 

[waleed88]

No. of world tournaments won with Shoaib Akhtar in the team =

 

[daytrader]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

Prayers did! Prayers of the nation were heard in the final. How else do you explain Bumrah's no ball and Fakhar going on to hit a century?! Or Azhar playing an aggressive knock in a world tournament final, when he has no precedent of doing so EVER. Or the ball hitting the stumps at speed but the bails not falling! When Pak was batting it certainly looked like there was divine intervention.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Since when did prayer become related to Islam only?
Your last point isn't relevant.
Islam isn't the only religion in the world. Believers from all faith can pray!

Are you stating Islam isnt the true faith??

In all seriousness he said duas though, ergo the Islam link

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not everything can be tied to CT win. If you want to be a great team you should clean house even when you win not just when you lose. Subcontinent teams get an easy pass when they win. Passengers get new lease of life.

 

[Savak]

Not everything can be tied to CT win. If you want to be a great team you should clean house even when you win not just when you lose. Subcontinent teams get an easy pass when they win. Passengers get new lease of life.

The CT Trophy masked over the problems with the side. In all the matches Pakistan won, it only posted a score of 350 plus in the final. All the other games were won chasing 230-240.

We don't have the players to post 300-350 plus batting first or to chase 300-350 plus batting second.

It was as if the England 2016 series, Australia 2017 ODI series was completely forgotten.

 

[jnaveen1980]

The CT Trophy masked over the problems with the side. In all the matches Pakistan won, it only posted a score of 350 plus in the final. All the other games were won chasing 230-240.

We don't have the players to post 300-350 plus batting first or to chase 300-350 plus batting second.

It was as if the England 2016 series, Australia 2017 ODI series was completely forgotten.

Precisely . All subcontinent teams have this habit. They just don't drop players once they win. You need captain / selectors with a vision to take bold calls.

 

[giri26]

Shoaib Akhtar and other players go full on as soon as the national team starts losing. I think they just enjoy this phase when they can say this phrase "Back in the days...."

 

[Matlab kuch bhi]

Prayers did! Prayers of the nation were heard in the final. How else do you explain Bumrah's no ball and Fakhar going on to hit a century?! Or Azhar playing an aggressive knock in a world tournament final, when he has no precedent of doing so EVER. Or the ball hitting the stumps at speed but the bails not falling! When Pak was batting it certainly looked like there was divine intervention.

You're not being serious, are you?

 

[Matlab kuch bhi]

And what's with bizarre self loathing Pakistani fans and former players haved developed with respect to CT win? Criticism is definitely justified for their poor performance in NZ but downplaying CT win is not the way.

 

[Bilal7]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

Where did he say you have to be a extremely religiois Islamic nation (Pakistan is not one either) for God to help you in/let you win at anything?

Anyways, let's not turn this into a religious debate.

 

[Madplayer]

How fickle! His mood swings more than Pakistani bowlers' deliveries.

 

[giri26]

Please keep the discussion on topic.

 

[Slog]

It may have been a fluke but that doesnt matter and will be cherished.

 

[Mamoon]

Never realized Shoaib reads my posts on PP.

On a serious note, he is right. The Champions Trophy win was a fluke and a miracle (whatever you want to call it), but nonetheless, he is right.

It appears that our fans and our players' heads are in the clouds because of the Champions Trophy. They feel entitled to success and work rates of some of the players have dropped. They look lazy and unfit, and this reality check was much needed.

However, I don't expect them to make any wholesale changes -we will continue our mediocre ways.

 

[Manager101]

Yeah right, without considering the factors like different playing conditions, pitch, weather, opposition , ground size, home/away/neutral ground factors, player form/morale, etc, some so called rookie analyst comparing the NZ series and champions trophy results.

Its like saying, NZ didn't deserve to get knocked out in group stages of CT because they are smashing PAK currently.

 

[MoJoJoJo]

Never realized Shoaib reads my posts on PP.

On a serious note, he is right. The Champions Trophy win was a fluke and a miracle (whatever you want to call it), but nonetheless, he is right.

It appears that our fans and our players' heads are in the clouds because of the Champions Trophy. They feel entitled to success and work rates of some of the players have dropped. They look lazy and unfit, and this reality check was much needed.

However, I don't expect them to make any wholesale changes -we will continue our mediocre ways.

Why you keep saying that all the time? half of your PP posts contain the same material..

 

[MoJoJoJo]

Prayers did! Prayers of the nation were heard in the final. How else do you explain Bumrah's no ball and Fakhar going on to hit a century?! Or Azhar playing an aggressive knock in a world tournament final, when he has no precedent of doing so EVER. Or the ball hitting the stumps at speed but the bails not falling! When Pak was batting it certainly looked like there was divine intervention.

what about india cwc 11 semi win against pak.. where around 6 catches of tenndulkar were dropped? i am tired of people telling me that perera's drop was the reason pak won the CT.. so i can say that tendulkar's 6 drop catches in cwc 11 semi final was the reason india won the world cup.. otherwise if you minus tendulkar's 50 runs, india would hv been bowled out under 200 and pak would hv chased that down comfortably..

 

[Asif321]

how can a team beat SA,England and India with fluke ??? fluke can be one match not 3 matches
Pakistan did well because they were getting quick wickets . those were english conditions pakistan adapt better there rather than NZ.

 

[srh]

does Shoaib Akhtar even remember how Pakistan win CT? I think he only remember the final where Pakistan humiliated India for ages; he does not remember that before final Pakistan win 3 continuous matches; 2 of them against heart favourites South Africa and England. You cannot fluke wins for so long against 3 favourites (South Africa, England and India).

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

These formers(Imran,shoaib,wasim etc) dont do anything for Pak cricket just blabber on TV. Shut your mouth or do something than just talk

 

[deems]

Are you stating Islam isnt the true faith??

In all seriousness he said duas though, ergo the Islam link

Nope, I mean to say that you've no regard for other religions if you're saying that duas which just means prayers in Urdu/Arabic are only related to Islam.

 

[Savak]

People are misunderstand his main point, he was saying that just because this team won the CT does not mean that the team is a top ODI and T-20 side, in fact very far from it.

 

[Mamoon]

Why you keep saying that all the time? half of your PP posts contain the same material..

I apologize if you feel that way, but it is the topic of discussion these days. People do not understand why the so-called Champions Trophy winners are getting demolished in this fashion.

The players need to get out of the 'champions' mentality, and the fans also deserve this humiliation for overrating the team.

 

[Slog]

In ODIs only CT and WCs matter. And at most bilateral series against India

So ofcourse it will be cherished and remembered

 

[Savak]

I apologize if you feel that way, but it is the topic of discussion these days. People do not understand why the so-called Champions Trophy winners are getting demolished in this fashion.

The players need to get out of the 'champions' mentality, and the fans also deserve this humiliation for overrating the team.

Do you think we should play the best domestic hitters in the ODI and T-20 squad now. In the recent National T-20 league, so many players had excellent strike rates. Pakistan has not kept up with the formula being used by the rest of the world i.e. 2 aggrressive dashers from ball one, 1-max of 2 solid batsmen with the guaranteed ability to accelerate at the end, 2-3 aggressive dashers in the lower middle order and tailenders who can whack the ball as well.

But just one year left before the world cup so it remains to be seen whether Inzi, Mickey Arthur will have the guts to make wholesale changes.

 

[Lefthanded]

Shoaib's entire career is built on destroying his body to bowl faster. Yes, his infractions are many and he's sometimes been lazy too. But he bowled his body into the ground.

 

[pakistani pride]

Never realized Shoaib reads my posts on PP.

On a serious note, he is right. The Champions Trophy win was a fluke and a miracle (whatever you want to call it), but nonetheless, he is right.

It appears that our fans and our players' heads are in the clouds because of the Champions Trophy. They feel entitled to success and work rates of some of the players have dropped. They look lazy and unfit, and this reality check was much needed.

However, I don't expect them to make any wholesale changes -we will continue our mediocre ways.

Whats happening with your team in SA.
Keeping the tradition alive....

 

[MMHS]

Most people (PAK greats particularly) are taking cheap shots at the team PAK, because many of them had a rough time during & after CT. These are basically showman, who earn living from media ......

Among all these hue & cry, the real match maker is getting away - Shoaib has played enough cricket to ask Ul Haq, what was in his mind, after playing 2 decades, when he selected these 16 (followed by T20 15, result is likely to be similar) for an ODI tour in NZ? How does he explain the squad and justify at least 1/3rd of the squad? In olden days, when team were announced, journalists used to ask intelligent questions on strategy & combination (& justification) for the squad - I guess that area (sports journalism) also has gone to drains.

That ODI squad was a disaster - one Haris won't have saved it, so Ul Haq better try not to use decoy for a distraction, it's politics. OK, CT was a fluke - agreed, but now the team is No. 1 in T20 ranks & that can't be fluke - I am waiting what pundits come with after the T20 series .....

And, I am not surprised at all that MoYo is totally silent, from his usual verbal rants.

 

[leatherface58]

Never realized Shoaib reads my posts on PP.

On a serious note, he is right. The Champions Trophy win was a fluke and a miracle (whatever you want to call it), but nonetheless, he is right.

It appears that our fans and our players' heads are in the clouds because of the Champions Trophy. They feel entitled to success and work rates of some of the players have dropped. They look lazy and unfit, and this reality check was much needed.

However, I don't expect them to make any wholesale changes -we will continue our mediocre ways.

Either Shoaib reads your posts or YOU ARE SHOAIB!

 

[MenInG]

Knives will be out for Pakistan now.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Akhtar must be laughing now that Pakistan got owned 5-0. I don't think CT win was a fluke but Pak team is not helping their cause

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pakistan should have played and fought like champions I think that is what he is trying to say.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan had a perfect run in the Champions Trophy. They beat two clear favorites back to back in semi and final and a top South African team along the way in emphatic fashion to lift the tournament. They had no favours from other outcomes, rain, Duckworth Lewis in order to secure their place in knock outs. Their wins were all massive. If anybody says now that the CT win was a fluke he is one of the following:-

1) Hater
2) Delusional
3) Wrist slitter
4) Bot
5) Bumrah


Pakistan is and has always been a tournaments team. The big arena is what drives Pakistani players to perform out of their skins and punch above their weight. As a regular ODI side, they remain average at best but when the pressure is on and some pricy silverware is at stake, they are a whole different lot.



Shoaib Akhtar, one of my favorite all time Pakistani cricketers needs to know his role.

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan had a perfect run in the Champions Trophy. They beat two clear favorites back to back in semi and final and a top South African team along the way in emphatic fashion to lift the tournament. They had no favours from other outcomes, rain, Duckworth Lewis in order to secure their place in knock outs. Their wins were all massive. If anybody says now that the CT win was a fluke he is one of the following:-

1) Hater
2) Delusional
3) Wrist slitter
4) Bot
5) Bumrah


Pakistan is and has always been a tournaments team. The big arena is what drives Pakistani players to perform out of their skins and punch above their weight. As a regular ODI side, they remain average at best but when the pressure is on and some pricy silverware is at stake, they are a whole different lot.



Shoaib Akhtar, one of my favorite all time Pakistani cricketers needs to know his role.

wonderful post.

 

[Saj]

Harsh to say the CT win was a fluke.

You don't win any tournament wthout a bit of luck but to say it was a fluke is disrespectful to the effort the Pakistan players put in to win the Champions Trophy.

 

[msb314]

Pakistan had a perfect run in the Champions Trophy. They beat two clear favorites back to back in semi and final and a top South African team along the way in emphatic fashion to lift the tournament. They had no favours from other outcomes, rain, Duckworth Lewis in order to secure their place in knock outs. Their wins were all massive. If anybody says now that the CT win was a fluke he is one of the following:-

1) Hater
2) Delusional
3) Wrist slitter
4) Bot
5) Bumrah


Pakistan is and has always been a tournaments team. The big arena is what drives Pakistani players to perform out of their skins and punch above their weight. As a regular ODI side, they remain average at best but when the pressure is on and some pricy silverware is at stake, they are a whole different lot.



Shoaib Akhtar, one of my favorite all time Pakistani cricketers needs to know his role.

Didn’t DL method come into play when we beat SAF?

 

[AAli98]

There are 2 types of odi teams these days.
Bilateral/dead rubber kings

NZ
SA
Eng

Big tournament teams

Aus
Ind
Pak

One of the 1st 3 teams will join the above teams in semis in nxt years wrld cup & choke.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Shoaib Akhtar speaking on TV after the fourth ODI:

"In today's cricket, 300 runs is not a difficult score to get"

"de Grandhomme showed us that playing sensibly, you can play good strokes on this ground"

"I saw many flaws in Sarfaraz's captaincy in this game"

"Amir did not bowl a bouncer to de Grandhomme who had just come in to bat, there was no slip for de Grandhomme, singles were being allowed easily"

"Whenever Wasim, Waqar and I were asked to bowl in such conditions, we always took wickets for the team"

"Amir, Hasan and Rumman all ran in without any hurry to bowl"

"no bouncers were bowled to de Grandhomme, and then Shadab was brought in instead of fast-bowlers bowling bouncers"

"de Grandhomme was playing our bowlers like they were little children"

"This team is not capable of becoming the top team in ODI and Tests"

"This wicket was easy to play on and it was a 300-350 run wicket"

"Many of us had high hopes that we had become a very good ODI team"

"Have our fast-bowlers decided that they will become T20 bowlers and not ODI bowlers?"

"We dont have any fast-bowlers who can bowl 10 overs"

"After CT I asked some of the players pls dont waste this period and concentrate on fitness but seems they did not pay attention as they did not play enough matches and their fitness was low"

"If you have had a fluke in CT and ALLAH has helped you due to people's duas it does not mean yo can relax"

"We have to demand performances which arent just for keeping ones place in the team"

I loved the legends that played for us, but Shoaib never won Pakistan a world trophy. So I think he needs to keep quiet. Bitter ex-players don’t help in this situation.

 

[Savak]

I loved the legends that played for us, but Shoaib never won Pakistan a world trophy. So I think he needs to keep quiet. Bitter ex-players don’t help in this situation.

I guess Waqar should keep his mouth shut as well.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

I guess Waqar should keep his mouth shut as well.

Agreed....Shoaib and Waqar can say what they want (loved them both) but when Shoaib starts calling it (CT) a fluke that’s when I stop listening.

It’s clear that we struggle when the ball moves and the lines of Hafeez and Malik are now redudunant.

 

[MMHS]

Pakistan had a perfect run in the Champions Trophy. They beat two clear favorites back to back in semi and final and a top South African team along the way in emphatic fashion to lift the tournament. They had no favours from other outcomes, rain, Duckworth Lewis in order to secure their place in knock outs. Their wins were all massive. If anybody says now that the CT win was a fluke he is one of the following:-

1) Hater
2) Delusional
3) Wrist slitter
4) Bot
5) Bumrah


Pakistan is and has always been a tournaments team. The big arena is what drives Pakistani players to perform out of their skins and punch above their weight. As a regular ODI side, they remain average at best but when the pressure is on and some pricy silverware is at stake, they are a whole different lot.



Shoaib Akhtar, one of my favorite all time Pakistani cricketers needs to know his role.

Normally, PAK players go to bilateral from domestics or conditioning camp - both are counter productive actually; whatever players know, they tend to forget because almost certainly be sure that PCB’s conditioning camp or pre-selection tournament will be 180 degree apart from what players are going to face in the upcoming tournament or bilateral - and often wrong players perform in those pre-selection games.

In ICC tournaments, players actually get the chance to acclimatize with the condition, hence if the tournament is a bit longer (read couple of early games don’t knock you out), lipstick certainly be sure that by business end, if not already knocked out, team’ll perform. 2003 & 2007 WC was such that you lose couple of early games, your are out.

Solution could be to send a larger squad with may be 3/4 extra players to the host country well before WC and instead of those space age conditioning in PCB’s high performance NCA, players actually play few proper games against decent local sides. Imran did take 18/19 players to AUS about 5 weeks prior to 22nd Feb 1992 ...... still lost 1st game by 10 wickets.

 

[saadibaba]

The same Shoaib Akhtar was kissing Sarfraz's face and giving out cars and prizes to him and Hafeez on his ridiculous show along with Wasim after the CT win. I don't remember clearly but Sarfraz got a beamer and Hafeez got like 5 Toyota's or something. I think that is the problem. Yes the CT win was huge and the captain and the team needs to be appreciated but this was clearly going overboard. Sarfraz was on every single TV show after the CT win. The amount of adulation and glorification on all of those shows was beyond what I have ever seen. Hard to imagine all this not going to someone's head.

I think our team is to blame for taking things too easy, not being prepared properly for this series and in general just being out of form. They all seem rusty other than Shadab Khan who has been playing the Big Bash league.

Shoaib and other former players/pundits like him also need to not behave like casual fans. Every time Pakistan wins they lift the team up to the sky and every time they lose, its the same old shaming, blaming and kicking the team and the captain into the dirt.

Immaturity from all sides.

 

[Savak]

The same Shoaib Akhtar was kissing Sarfraz's face and giving out cars and prizes to him and Hafeez on his ridiculous show along with Wasim after the CT win. I don't remember clearly but Sarfraz got a beamer and Hafeez got like 5 Toyota's or something. I think that is the problem. Yes the CT win was huge and the captain and the team needs to be appreciated but this was clearly going overboard. Sarfraz was on every single TV show after the CT win. The amount of adulation and glorification on all of those shows was beyond what I have ever seen. Hard to imagine all this not going to someone's head.

I think our team is to blame for taking things too easy, not being prepared properly for this series and in general just being out of form. They all seem rusty other than Shadab Khan who has been playing the Big Bash league.

Shoaib and other former players/pundits like him also need to not behave like casual fans. Every time Pakistan wins they lift the team up to the sky and every time they lose, its the same old shaming, blaming and kicking the team and the captain into the dirt.

Immaturity from all sides.

Hopefully the team learnt a valuable lesson. Sometimes a big loss is needed to give a necessary kick in the backside. Hopefully Arthur now realizes that just because the same team won the CT does not mean that this is best ODI and T-20 side to put out there and that he has to have more firepower in the batting and bowling to compete with the major teams around the globe especially outside of the UAE.

 

[saadibaba]

Hopefully the team learnt a valuable lesson. Sometimes a big loss is needed to give a necessary kick in the backside. Hopefully Arthur now realizes that just because the same team won the CT does not mean that this is best ODI and T-20 side to put out there and that he has to have more firepower in the batting and bowling to compete with the major teams around the globe especially outside of the UAE.

Its a positive approach to take after a drubbing, "our team needed a kick in the butt" etc. Unfortunately, I do not see that happening. Simply because I just don't see our players getting any better and their is not a lot of options available on the bench. Maybe the players applying themselves better or just being a bit in form and not so rusty may help, but not expecting any miraculous recovery.

 

[Canistani Hero]

kneejerk

 

[Raja Sab]

I heard Shoaib mentioned how he did so well in NZ OD series, someone tell him he's never won a single OD series in NZ )

 

[Sarwar89]

The same Shoaib Akhtar was kissing Sarfraz's face and giving out cars and prizes to him and Hafeez on his ridiculous show along with Wasim after the CT win. I don't remember clearly but Sarfraz got a beamer and Hafeez got like 5 Toyota's or something. I think that is the problem. Yes the CT win was huge and the captain and the team needs to be appreciated but this was clearly going overboard. Sarfraz was on every single TV show after the CT win. The amount of adulation and glorification on all of those shows was beyond what I have ever seen. Hard to imagine all this not going to someone's head.

I think our team is to blame for taking things too easy, not being prepared properly for this series and in general just being out of form. They all seem rusty other than Shadab Khan who has been playing the Big Bash league.

Shoaib and other former players/pundits like him also need to not behave like casual fans. Every time Pakistan wins they lift the team up to the sky and every time they lose, its the same old shaming, blaming and kicking the team and the captain into the dirt.

Immaturity from all sides.

Well but I must say it does not only happen in Pakistan. I was in UK back in 2005 and clearly remember events of Post Ashes win Euphoria which swept the British Island. Freddie Freddie Flintoff Chants everywhere, It was understandable cuz it was their First Ashes win in 16 years. Most English cricketers were given Medals MBEs OBEs from Queen, Dinner with Tony Blair and Michael Howard. Flintoff received BBC sports person of the year award.
Few months later Ashes heroes came to Pakistan and we beat them 2-0 in Test Series.

 

[Varun]

Well but I must say it does not only happen in Pakistan. I was in UK back in 2005 and clearly remember events of Post Ashes win Euphoria which swept the British Island. Freddie Freddie Flintoff Chants everywhere, It was understandable cuz it was their First Ashes win in 16 years. Most English cricketers were given Medals MBEs OBEs from Queen, Dinner with Tony Blair and Michael Howard. Flintoff received BBC sports person of the year award.
Few months later Ashes heroes came to Pakistan and we beat them 2-0 in Test Series.

Pakistan and England are birds of a feather in ways more than one.

 

[Markhor]

Shoaib - whatever the faults of this current team - at least nobody not only failed a drug test but then chickened out of drug testing before a World Cup because they were afraid of testing positive again - screwing up our entire preparations for that World Cup thus costing Bob Woolmer his job and his life.

And if you want to compare our bowlers to being hit like "little children" - there's a small matter of a 2003 World Cup match in Centurion we could bring up.

 

[Syed1]

Shoaib Akhtar's analysis aren't any better than a layman on the street. Remember how he was cursing this team after the first match of the CT and was singing their praises after they won.

This guy should stick to game shows and maula jutt skits. That's his level.

 

[Railu Katta]

Why you keep saying that all the time? half of your PP posts contain the same material..

Report the posts. But I respect him for supporting his team even though they are losing 2-0 in South Africa.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Everything that Pakistan wins is a fluke. Yes we know that Shoaib.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

What is it with Pakistanis and invoking religion into literally everything.

If anything its insulting to the team whos abiility and skill in the knockouts won them that tournament.

But no, prayer won it. No wonder that great Aussie team won 3 WC's on the trot, Australia obviously being an extremely religious Islamic nation.

Remember the Sri Lankan's and their voodoo hex???