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Iftikhar Ahmed may just surprise us all...

You are right man. Fawad is out of the team because he cannot speak Punjabi and because he's from Karachi. :inti

Yes
Younis Khan is from Cheecha watni
Shahid Afridi is from Gojra
Khurram Manzoor is from Vehari
Sarfraz Ahmed is from Sheikhupura

All speak Punjabi fluently
 
Yes, don't get me wrong because Ramiz is a joke cricketer but to compare him with Ifti chacha is a bit unfair. Although I understand your point about longevity.

Once I watching that fool's (Ramiz) interview on TV and he was harping on about how first class standard has always been a joke in Pakistan and how used to score so many tons in a single season just for fun.

So it got me wondering and I checked his first class stats, that fool has scored more than one ton (a grand total of 2) only once in all of his first class seasons. Barring that earth shattering performance of 2 ton season, he had only managed one ton per season.
 
The most irritating thing is that NO ONE ASKS SELECTORS TO JUSTIFY!!!!

Everyone's complaining about Khurram, but it's not like he's failed at the int'l level yet.

Iftikhar was crap when he was selected and is bad here.

Iftikhar has been picked for the same reason as Mohammed Nawaz
Because he played well against the lions

There are other talents out there like Asif Ali and khalid Latif but maybe the selectors are hoping iftikhar is not just an a team bully
 
Iftikhar has been picked for the same reason as Mohammed Nawaz
Because he played well against the lions

There are other talents out there like Asif Ali and khalid Latif but maybe the selectors are hoping iftikhar is not just an a team bully

Other players played well against the Lions. Fakhar Zaman should've been selected then, instead of someone we've seen fail and look totally overmatched on the international level
 
Other players played well against the Lions. Fakhar Zaman should've been selected then, instead of someone we've seen fail and look totally overmatched on the international level

They're still looking for the next hafeez
I.e a batter at number 3 who can also bowl


If zaman learnt how to bowl he probably would have been picked
 
Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen him bat, you would know that he can't play decent pacers. He looks like a real tailender against them like Ifti Chacha

Yes, he cannot play pacers. That is why, he scored a 63 (90+ strike rate) at Perth against Harris and Johnson. He also scored 64 at the Oval against Anderson, Broad, and Bresnan.
 
Surprise Ahmed should be nowhere our t20 squad, anyone who has any sort of hope from him is having delusions of grandeur.
 
Yes, he cannot play pacers. That is why, he scored a 63 (90+ strike rate) at Perth against Harris and Johnson. He also scored 64 at the Oval against Anderson, Broad, and Bresnan.

What about his other innings during those series? Or his scores in UAE vs. Australia? It's easy to pick and choose because even someone like Shahzaib Hassan has played in England. Should we get him in the team?
 
Wonderful inning by Iftikhar ... PSL has exposed all big names of domestic T20 cup
1) Nauman Anwer
2) Iftikhar Ahmed
3) Usama Mir
4) sohail Tanvir
5) Imran khan 3
 
All batsmen coming through KPK should be ignored from now on, after the experiment with the two geezers (Iftikhar and Mohmand Chacha).

Rizwan hanging on by a hair's breadth as well.
 
1 match cannot decide. He still was better than Shoaib Malik in this match.
 
He may surprise us by being even worse than we originally thought
 
What about his other innings during those series? Or his scores in UAE vs. Australia? It's easy to pick and choose because even someone like Shahzaib Hassan has played in England. Should we get him in the team?

You questioned his ability to play fast bowling and I gave two examples where he excelled in challenging conditions against top fast bowling.

It is funny that other batsmen have failed series after series for years but they were persisted with. However, Fawad failed in just 1 series vs Australia despite having an excellent comeback that year and he was dropped from the WC squad which would have completely demoralized him. He was then brought back for 3 matches vs Bangladesh where mostly all batsman sucked but again Fawad was the first one who was dropped.
 
Surprise Ahmed should be nowhere our t20 squad, anyone who has any sort of hope from him is having delusions of grandeur.

Coming from the guy who still has hope for Kami. :))

Look I know he's trash. We all do.

But nothing wrong with hoping.
 
Coming from the guy who still has hope for Kami. :))

Look I know he's trash. We all do.

But nothing wrong with hoping.

Hoping for Kami to come through vs Iftikhar to come through is like expecting the sun to rise tomorrow vs pigs to fly.
 
He's utter trash. Don't waste another grand opportunity in trying to win this tournament.
 
All batsmen coming through KPK should be ignored from now on, after the experiment with the two geezers (Iftikhar and Mohmand Chacha).

Rizwan hanging on by a hair's breadth as well.

Adil Amin is good.
 
Surprise us by being a lot more rubbish then we actually think he is.
 
Instead of betting on a seaming all rounder in england he is betting on a spin bowling all rounder. Probably is impressed by moin ali.
 
He is an excuse of a cricketer. He is a sort of a batsman that if he scores a 20 odd I will consider it a success.


If we had to play such a cricketer we should have rather played Imad or Nawaz
 
He is an excuse of a cricketer. He is a sort of a batsman that if he scores a 20 odd I will consider it a success.


If we had to play such a cricketer we should have rather played Imad or Nawaz

Yes, but now that he's in, how about we back him?
 
Yes, but now that he's in, how about we back him?

There is no point in denying the inevitable, closing eyes and expecting Miracles.

He's just not good enough and is an undeserving selection to boot. I hope he scores but there is as much chance of that happening as of snow tomorrow in Islamabad.
 
There is no point in denying the inevitable, closing eyes and expecting Miracles.

He's just not good enough and is an undeserving selection to boot. I hope he scores but there is as much chance of that happening as of snow tomorrow in Islamabad.

Have you watched him bat before?
 
Lots of times. I havent seen a worse batsman in recent times. Even demoting Hafeez to no. 7 would have been better

Alright, let's give him an innings or two at the international stage.

I realize he's a pathetic selection but well, not much we can do but hope.
 
He surprised me by getting selected. We ve gone half way house again. Should have gone with a regular bowler or regular batter. He strikes me as a really reall poor man's hafeez
 
He was playing as the fifth bowler, yet he bowled ONLY two overs in the whole innings

I don't get the whole point behind Iftikhar Ahmed being in the eleven
 
[MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] Well, it's pathetic to see how some people want him to fail. He didn't ask for his selection, selectors and management selected him. He didn't ask them to give him chance in Playing XI. Management gave him.

Now he is representing Pakistan team, so i wish him all the best and i hope he play a great innings today.
 
He has already surprised us by getting selected. 20+ will be a huge surprise. Just want this to be his last match, we cant carry dead weight beyond this series
 
Love your positivity bro. I try to be as positive as you but doesn't work out well tbh.

Thanks.

Don't worry - it will work out like it has in the past. When we pull out extraordinary performances out of the blue, I feel like it was all worth it.

Pessimists end up looking lke idiots then. :afridi

[MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] Well, it's pathetic to see how some people want him to fail. He didn't ask for his selection, selectors and management selected him. He didn't ask them to give him chance in Playing XI. Management gave him.

Now he is representing Pakistan team, so i wish him all the best and i hope he play a great innings today.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good post.
 
Hope justice is served.

I don't care if he is playing for Pakistan or Turkmenistan.

Don't have time for Misbah's school friends.
 
Hope justice is served.

I don't care if he is playing for Pakistan or Turkmenistan.

Don't have time for Misbah's school friends.

He is 15 years younger than Misbah (Atleast on paper) . Did Misbah buy Sweets for him when he was doing MBA and Ifti was in Grade 1 :misbah
 
Come on guys! Give him a chance. He can't be worse than Hafeez who had been a walking wicket in this series. It's very unfair to bash someone even before he's faced a ball.
 
Thanks.

Don't worry - it will work out like it has in the past. When we pull out extraordinary performances out of the blue, I feel like it was all worth it.

Pessimists end up looking lke idiots then. :afridi



Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good post.

Haha yes need your optimism to work today!
 
but cricinfo shows his age is 26


9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.
 
9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.

yes yes shakal se bhi baijaan 26 nai lagte
 
He is going to surprise us with a pair of ducks in this test match and nothing more.
 
Saddens me to see such mediocre players getting preferred over proven performers like Fawad who just can't seem to find a place in any team.
 
Sad thing is, he looked good till he played that Afridi-esque shot. Same ball that got Misbah out was played efficiently by him. blocked again, straight drive for four then that horrific pull shot.
 
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One more innings still left guys. Don't doubt the legend's abilities. :najam

9 years ago He played his first match under PCB banner.

It was inter district seniors cricket tournament. He has no history of playing under 15, under 16 or under 19 cricket at region or departmental level.

Usually and quite Often 22, 23 + years old players start directly from Inter district senior tournament whereas only those younger players get into this tournament who have excelled at U19 level or those who have genuine pace.


Iftikhar is officially 31 and unofficially he may be 31 to 36.


Note : Unofficial is my personal opinion which can be totally wrong.

Cricket Archive has been mentioning his date of birth 3rd september 1985 since last many years.


Iftikhar in his last 10-11 Fc matches has averaged 48 with 3 hundreds. So he is at his batting peak years. Whether he delivers or not is a seperate debate. I know he looked bad in his first 2-3 matches for pakistan but won't be surprisef if he delivers in first or second innings of this match. He must. Otherwise he will get the same fate as Ayub Doggar who was a much better batsman than Iftikhar and made pakistan team after scoring 3500 plus runs in last 4 Fc seasons at an Average of 50 plus with 12 Fc hundreds.

Lowkey he's Ayub Dogar with a different name lol. Looks are the exact same as well.

He is going to surprise us with a pair of ducks in this test match and nothing more.

Wrong. :iftikhar
 
I think he will score some in the 2nd innings , just don't play that awful shot again. One hope is that he doesn't get to bat in the 2nd innings.
 
Cricinfo says he's a mere 25 years of age. :91:
 
One more innings still left guys. Don't doubt the legend's abilities. :najam



Lowkey he's Ayub Dogar with a different name lol. Looks are the exact same as well.



Wrong. :iftikhar

Indeed I was, missed his half century by just 46 runs.
 
Feel sorry for him.

He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.
 
Feel sorry for him.

He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.

You wouldn't think we could beat these guus withe passengers would u lol
 
You wouldn't think we could beat these guus withe passengers would u lol

Passengers are just passengers. The team carries them but they don't necessarily weigh the team down, especially when people like Iftikhar are concerned.

What I mean to say is that he is hardly noticed on the pitch. He barely bats for a few deliveries and bowls for a few overs.

If 2-3 other players show up, they make up for his failures. Players like him attract negative attention only when the team is losing, which he hasn't been a part of so far.

I'm glad he took a good crucial catch of Cook today though, at least he can take something from this game home, because this may well be his first and last Test cap.
 
What did I tell you folks? He'd win us the series. :baelish

That Cook catch has just won us the match. Not the series though, as he wasn't there in the 3rd Test - but at least made us draw the series. :najam

What do you think would've happened if Hafeez was at his usual slip position here? A drop and 200 by Cook.
 
What did I tell you folks? He'd win us the series. :baelish

That Cook catch has just won us the match. Not the series though, as he wasn't there in the 3rd Test - but at least made us draw the series. :najam

What do you think would've happened if Hafeez was at his usual slip position here? A drop and 200 by Cook.

Harsh. Iftikhar dropped one in first innings too
 
Passengers are just passengers. The team carries them but they don't necessarily weigh the team down, especially when people like Iftikhar are concerned.

What I mean to say is that he is hardly noticed on the pitch. He barely bats for a few deliveries and bowls for a few overs.

If 2-3 other players show up, they make up for his failures. Players like him attract negative attention only when the team is losing, which he hasn't been a part of so far.

I'm glad he took a good crucial catch of Cook today though, at least he can take something from this game home, because this may well be his first and last Test cap.

Yes . I was just having a dig ;)
 
Feel sorry for him.

He didn't ask to be selected. Looks woefully out of place at this level.

He is a worse bowler and batsman than Babar Azam, Haris Sohail and even Fawad Alam of all people, so he is a pointless selection.

he was forced unto the team against his will?

one can feel genuinely sorry for him without turning him into a parody
 
I was certainly surprised when he held onto that catch from Cook, and from his celebrations it seems he was surprised too
 
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