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"I'm not finished with international cricket" : Abdul Razzaq

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Abdul Razzaq has represented Pakistan on more than 300 occasions, scoring over 7,000 international runs and taking almost 400 wickets. The all-rounder last represented Pakistan in the T20 series between Pakistan and South Africa four months ago, although his last one day international was in November 2011.

The 34-year-old has been a key member of Pakistan's limited-overs teams since making his debut in 1996, being part of three ICC World Cup campaigns and three World T20 events. His three wickets with the new ball in the 2009 World T20 final played a major role in Pakistan's victory that day and although he has not been a consistent performer, his career has been punctuated with some blistering performances with the bat and ball, including 40 runs in the space of just 11 balls during England's tour of Pakistan in 2005 and 44 off 20 balls in September 2010 at Lords.

He has saved his best for South Africa – two of his three ODI centuries have come against the Proteas, including one of the great ODI innings which he played during the 2010 series in the UAE. In this series, Razzaq entered the fray in the 30th over of the 2nd ODI, with Pakistan languishing on 136/5 chasing 286. He ended with 109 not out off 72 balls, including 10 sixes to secure a penultimate-ball one-wicket victory.

Razzaq has played 46 Test matches for Pakistan and he has had his moments both with bat and ball, including a 184 record seventh-wicket stand with Kamran Akmal in 2005 at Mohali to save the Test. India were again the opposition when Kamran Akmal and Razzaq helped Pakistan reach a competitive total after being 39-6 in Karachi in 2006, a game Pakistan famously went on to win with Razzaq taking seven wickets and contributing a total of 135 runs.

Currently out of favour with the Pakistani selectors after the emergence of the likes of Bilawal Bhatti and Anwar Ali, Razzaq was left out of Pakistan's 2014 Asia Cup and World T20 squads.

PakPassion.net caught up with him to discuss his venture into club cricket in England, the high points of his career, Pakistan's chances at the upcoming World T20, his thoughts on domestic cricket in Pakistan, as well his own plans for the future.



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PakPassion.net: You’ve recently signed for Hem Heath of the North Staffordshire and South Cheshire League. What do you aim to achieve by signing for them?

Abdul Razzaq: My dealings with the club have been very good. I’m impressed by what they had to say and what their ambitions are. They told me what they wanted to achieve this season and I’m really looking forward to playing for Hem Heath.

On the field of course our aim will be to win every competition, but I also think that it’s very important that I do some work on the coaching side with both the current and up and coming players at the club.


PakPassion.net: Is coaching something that you’d like to take up once you’ve stopped playing?

Abdul Razzaq: Yes definitely. I think you always have to look at the future and plan for the future. Too often you see players who have not planned for their retirement and suddenly they stop playing cricket and don’t have anything to fall back on.

I feel I can still play cricket at the highest level for a few years, but I think coaching at Hem Heath is a step in the right direction. Hopefully I can continue to coach in future and earn my coaching badges which could be useful for me in the years to come.

I’ve played cricket all around the world in all of its various formats and against the world’s best, so I’d definitely like to pass on my experience and knowledge to players of the future around the world.


PakPassion.net: What do you feel has been the greatest moment of your career so far?

Abdul Razzaq: There have been some memorable moments over the years. One that springs to mind is the five wicket haul against Sri Lanka in a one day international at Sharjah. The match was tied after Sri Lanka only needed 11 runs to win with five wickets in hand and I took four of the last five wickets to fall. That performance really launched my career and I see it as a significant moment for me.

Then there was the all round performance in Australia against India when I made 70 not out from 52 balls at Hobart when we were struggling at 156 for 5. I followed that up with 5 for 48 including the wickets of Tendulkar, Ganguly and Laxman.

Another match that brings back some great memories is the one day international in 2010 at Abu Dhabi against South Africa when I scored 109 not out from 72 balls and we managed to win an incredible match by one wicket.


PakPassion.net: No interview would be complete without asking you about that match saving partnership between you and Kamran Akmal at Mohali in the Test match of 2005. Tell us about that fifth day of the Test match, the partnership and the emotions you went through?

Abdul Razzaq: At the close of play on day four we were 257 for 6 in our second innings, which was a lead of just over 50. The pressure of playing in India against the hosts is only something that a cricketer can describe. It’s unique - the noise, the pressure, there’s nothing like it.

The match was over, done and dusted at the end of day four as far as the hosts were concerned. They were that confident that they would win, they had even sorted out the post match victory celebrations, but of course we had other ideas. Kamran and I batted for nearly 60 overs and added in excess of 180 runs in very testing conditions and under extreme pressure. I think our partnership showed that we could cope with pressure. Some of my critics had said that I couldn’t play spin bowling, but I feel that innings of mine shut a few of the critics up.


PakPassion.net: Another superb innings of yours that springs to mind is the 89 against New Zealand from only 40 balls, but Pakistan lost by an agonising four runs which must have been heartbreaking for you?

Abdul Razzaq: It’s always tough for players from Asia to go to New Zealand and Australia and perform there. That innings was special but yes, I have mixed feelings about that match as we lost by the smallest of margins. I went in at number seven when the team needed over 10 runs an over and it was a good effort to get us so close but when I look back now, I just wish that I could have steered us home instead of being ninth man out when we needed 10 runs to win.


PakPassion.net : One of your most complete performances in Tests was in Karachi 2006 against India when you made 45 and 90 with the bat and took seven wickets. What are your memories of that match?

Abdul Razzaq : That match brings back some wonderful memories for me. I was possibly at my best and at my peak in that match. It was almost the perfect match from a personal perspective. I walked into bat with the team five wickets down and only thirty seven runs on the board. I certainly didn't expect to be at the crease ten overs into the match. Thankfully Kamran (Akmal) and I put on a century partnership and he went onto score a very good hundred which gave our first innings score some respectability.

To bowl India out for less than our first innings total gave us a huge lift and provided the impetus for our good second innings, which saw us make just under 600. I took the wickets of Ganguly, Tendulkar and Dhoni in the first innings which wasn't bad was it. Our batting clicked in the second innings and India were under pressure in their second innings having such a mountain to climb.

Asif and Shoaib (Akhtar) sent the Indian top order back to the pavilion in no time and then I removed the middle order, despite some resilience from Yuvraj Singh.

Looking back at that match, it was one of the greatest ever sporting comebacks. I cannot think of too many teams that would have gone onto win a Test match from being thirty nine for six. It showed resilience, team spirit and above all mental strength.


PakPassion.net: You were brought in from the cold for the World Twenty20 in 2009 having not initially been selected and eventually played a crucial role in Pakistan winning that tournament. Your memories of that successful competition?

Abdul Razzaq: A world cup win is a world cup win, irrespective of whether it’s the fifty over format or the twenty over format. When I joined up with the squad, morale was very low. The boys had lost both warm-up matches, Yasir Arafat was injured and there were some question marks over the team combination.

I was in a tough situation as I was making a comeback and joining a squad that was clearly struggling. However I took on the challenge of bowling with the new ball for Pakistan in that tournament and we managed to turn things around. That tournament just epitomises the ups and downs of my career; not being selected, then called up and performing when my country needed me to.

It was an unforgettable time in England in 2009 winning the World Twenty20 and days like the final at Lords stay with you forever.


PakPassion.net: Why didn’t you play for Lahore in the recent Faysal Bank Twenty20 tournament?

Abdul Razzaq: I thought I had fully recovered from the hamstring injury that I suffered in South Africa and attempted to play again, but the injury hadn’t healed and I damaged the hamstring once again. However I will be back in full training in another weeks time.


PakPassion.net: There were some reports that the injury in South Africa was a cover-up for disciplinary issues. Can you shed some light on this?

Abdul Razzaq: Absolute nonsense. Totally untrue.


PakPassion.net: You weren’t named in the 30 man provisional squad for the World T20 this month in Bangladesh. Surely you consider yourself amongst the 30 best Twenty20 cricketers in Pakistan?

Abdul Razzaq: Naturally I was disappointed but there’s nothing I can do about it other than to start playing again and performing well. It was the selectors' decision, their call and whether I agree or disagree with it makes not one bit of difference. I believe I still have it in me to play for Pakistan, but it’s down to the selection committee to ultimately make that decision. It’s Pakistan cricket’s misfortune that sometimes cricketers who are out of favour for one reason or another aren’t selected.


PakPassion.net: You made some comments last year about the captaincy approach of Misbah-ul-Haq and Mohammad Hafeez . Would you like to elaborate on those comments?

Abdul Razzaq: Let me clarify firstly, Misbah and Hafeez are good cricketers. However, cricket has changed in recent times, it’s a much quicker game. If you bat slowly and in a negative manner, then that has an impact on the whole innings and on your team mates. Both Hafeez and Misbah know a lot about cricket, they obviously know the ins and outs of cricket, but they both need to bat in a more positive manner. The philosophy should be, if I can hit a ball for six, then why should I just take a single from that delivery!

Both Misbah and Hafeez need to show more intent at the crease and show more positivity as their batting has a negative impact on their team mates. Also, if they are batting in a negative manner then the opposition knows this and they can create more pressure on the other batsmen at the crease, knowing that a mistake is just around the corner.

Pakistan should be near the top of the ICC rankings in all formats, but sadly of late, we have been sliding down the rankings in ODIs and Tests. Let’s see some more positivity from the captains at the crease and this will have a positive effect on the rest of the batsmen and the results will follow.


PakPassion.net: A few all-rounders have been tried but with limited success. Let’s be honest here, you haven’t really been replaced in the Pakistan limited overs line-ups have you?

Abdul Razzaq: My objective has always been that when I leave international cricket, a suitable replacement is there and somebody has been groomed by myself to succeed in international cricket. There’s no substitute for experience and what the Board and selectors should be doing is getting the younger up and coming players to work alongside and play alongside the experienced players so that the experienced players can pass on what they have learnt to the younger players.

I don’t think Pakistan cricket over the years has utilised its senior cricketers and experienced players very well. Instead, they have been cast aside and forgotten about, well before their time is up. We have some good up and coming cricketers but they are missing a key ingredient in their development and that is to play alongside and work with senior and experienced cricketers who have represented Pakistan for a long time. I’m sure that if I had the opportunity to play in the same team as, and work with, some of the young all-rounders in Pakistan, they would improve further and would eventually become better cricketers.


PakPassion.net: Pakistan has had a rich history of producing genuine all-rounders, but that tradition seems to be a thing of the past. Why do you think that is?

Abdul Razzaq: The reason is that our captains in recent times have not been all-rounders. If you have a captain who is an all-rounder and appreciates the value of a cricketer who can win a game with either bat or ball, then you will see all-rounders in the team and performing well.

Our captains have predominantly been batsmen in the recent past and I don’t think they appreciate the value of having an all-rounder in the Test team especially. It’s a situation that needs rectifying as our tail is very long in Test cricket and a genuine all-rounder coming into bat at number eight is extremely useful and adds balance to the team.


PakPassion.net: You’ve played alongside and against some of Pakistan’s greats in domestic cricket. What are your thoughts on the current standard of domestic cricket in Pakistan?

Abdul Razzaq: Well there’s a lot of concerns from a lot of people involved in Pakistan cricket about the standard of domestic cricket and those concerns are genuine in my opinion. There needs to be more investment into the domestic circuit in Pakistan. The investment needs to be made to improve stadia, facilities, player’s salaries and prize money.

In addition, more domestic cricket needs to be televised. At the moment the Twenty20 tournaments are shown on television and the occasional other match will be shown, but the reality is that more domestic cricket needs to be shown on television. This will create more interest in the tournaments that are being played, it will showcase the talent and will provide the cricketers with more incentives to perform. The authorities in Pakistan need to look at the set-up in England and follow this model. The fixtures are released well in advance, domestic cricketers earn a decent living and the players are contracted.

I would also suggest the media to play more of an active role in promoting domestic cricket and helping its cause by promoting the various tournaments in the domestic calendar.


PakPassion.net: How do you rate Pakistan’s chances at the upcoming World Twenty20 in Bangladesh later this month?

Abdul Razzaq: In Asian conditions you can never write off Pakistan in any format. The bowling unit is capable of winning any match from any situation and that is definitely Pakistan’s strength. It’s an experienced bowling line-up, a bowling unit that knows the Bangladeshi conditions very well. The key is a positive approach from the batsmen rather than a negative approach. It’s absolutely imperative that the Pakistani batsmen play in an aggressive manner rather than letting the opposition bowlers dominate.

I’m very confident that Pakistan can win the World Twenty20 crown, just like we did in 2009.


PakPassion.net: Looking ahead to the World Cup next year in Australia and New Zealand, what about Pakistan’s chances there?

Abdul Razzaq: Pakistan won in those conditions in 1992 and the squad should go there with that in mind. Play positive cricket, none of this negative approach we see sometimes from the team. As I said earlier, cricket has changed nowadays, it’s a faster game, a game where you have to have a positive approach. Those with a negative approach eventually get found out. I’m certain that if the approach is positive then there is every chance Pakistan can do very well at next year's World Cup.


PakPassion.net: You’re 34 years of age, do you think you still have the desire and the ability to play for Pakistan?

Abdul Razzaq: Absolutely no doubt. I’m recovering from the hamstring injury at the moment but once I’m over this injury then I am aiming to return to international cricket, I'm not finished with international cricket. I’m of course playing club cricket in England and then I’m looking to play in some of the domestic Twenty20 competitions around the world and I'll also be playing domestic cricket again in Pakistan next season. So it's a busy few months and a period where I hope to impress the national selectors.
 
good to see that he wasn't just bunking the faysal bank t20 and that he had an excuse. hope he finds some form and can be recalled
 
Been my favorite player but time to move on, still could have been useful in t20s but you have to think of the country first
 
PakPassion.net: You made some comments last year about the captaincy approach of Misbah-ul-Haq and Mohammad Hafeez . Would you like to elaborate on those comments?

Abdul Razzaq: Let me clarify firstly, Misbah and Hafeez are good cricketers. However, cricket has changed in recent times, it’s a much quicker game. If you bat slowly and in a negative manner, then that has an impact on the whole innings and on your team mates. Both Hafeez and Misbah know a lot about cricket, they obviously know the ins and outs of cricket, but they both need to bat in a more positive manner. The philosophy should be, if I can hit a ball for six, then why should I just take a single from that delivery!

Both Misbah and Hafeez need to show more intent at the crease and show more positivity as their batting has a negative impact on their team mates. Also, if they are batting in a negative manner then the opposition knows this and they can create more pressure on the other batsmen at the crease, knowing that a mistake is just around the corner.

Pakistan should be near the top of the ICC rankings in all formats, but sadly of late, we have been sliding down the rankings in ODIs and Tests. Let’s see some more positivity from the captains at the crease and this will have a positive effect on the rest of the batsmen and the results will follow.

Interestingly, question was asked about the "captaincy approach" but Razzaq replied with his opinion on their "batting approach".

Needless to say that he is spot on......as more and more people have started to realize and be vocal about the real issue with the Pakistan's batting.
 
He was bowling at 125 kmph in the t20s against south africa. that is not acceptable.
 
In a world where International legends are retiring from International cricket with their heads held high for what they have done for their country. This guy is being shameless and not accepting that he is past his prime even though he wasn't anything more than a hard hitter and an average medium pacer. His legs are long gone and it would be a disgrace if this guy is allowed back into the team.
 
Justice was not done, razzaq was one of the greatest finishers pak have ever produced. How many times he helped us to put more score in last 10 over, and now that flare is gone in our team. He was a clean hitter and i hope we can see him again before he hit 40.

When that stupid play, shoaib malik can be selected why not razzaq ! razzaq has been more valuable to us than malik.
 
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This says its over razzler.

So when a batsman misjudges a ball, leave it and get bowled.... his career is over?

I last few years, number of specialist, established, recognized and in-form batsmen have done that .... and yet kept playing.

Razzaq is not even a specialist batsman!
 
So when a batsman misjudges a ball, leave it and get bowled.... his career is over?

I last few years, number of specialist, established, recognized and in-form batsmen have done that .... and yet kept playing.

Razzaq is not even a specialist batsman!

When you make a comeback and do something like this and your team is in trouble then yes you are finished. Tell me did you see that dismissal?
You are right he is not a specialist batsmen anymore nor is he a specialist bowler. He is a bits and pieces cricketer now. Trust me i love this guy and i respect him for his match winning knocks but its time to say good bye to him COMPLETELY. Time to look for someone new and get over the old players. If we cant find a pace all rounder then play a specialist rather than him.
 
its pakistan ! U still have chance to return as captain in all format !! Dont lose hope !
 
Out of the Discarded player, I prefer Abdur Razzaq over Shoaib Malik. Still cant believe that Malik got selected for world cup T20
 
I actually think that as far as his batting is concerned, he's still got more to offer than one or two who are in the World T20 squad.
 
The most disappointing aspect of his whole career is his poor work ethic: he never worked on his bowling and became a mediocre medium pacer where he had so much more to offer. His scrambled seam meant that he couldn`t swing the ball and if i as lay man could tell this sitting in front of my telly, did it not occur to the guy who does this for living.
 
Way past his sell by date, one of my favorite cricketers at his peak but a serial whinger who has never taken any responsibility.
 
pakistan failed to use many talents ... and razzaq is one of those undone cricketers.. way back atleast from 2009 WC T20 they should have started using razzaq as an opener as like watson from nowhere given the confidence to open the innings which made him a specialist cricketer even in the tests..

pakistan need a shrewd analyst in the team management committee who can think outisde the box or even copy from the top teams
 
I think his time is gone now.He bowls 120 kph thunderbolts,is a humongous liability in the field and we have better batsmen than him at the moment.
 
Dear Mr Razzaq, you should have been retired 2-3 years ago, but waited to be dropped, don't think your form and fitness over last 3-4 years deserves a recall. Thanks for your services to Pak team, time to move.
 
pakistan failed to use many talents ... and razzaq is one of those undone cricketers.. way back atleast from 2009 WC T20 they should have started using razzaq as an opener as like watson from nowhere given the confidence to open the innings which made him a specialist cricketer even in the tests..

pakistan need a shrewd analyst in the team management committee who can think outisde the box or even copy from the top teams

Razzaq was a good player of pace.. Just met him in Lahore here 2 weeks ago.. Look slim and smart..


He should have used as an opener.. in sub continent he could be deadly.. but team management is stupid.. now he can open in t20 because he is still a very good hitter..
 
if he wants to comeback to team , he should play domestic season. if on the basis of domestic season Fawad alam can make comeback , why not he
 
Why Pak players don't want to retire with some dignity rather than preferring to be kicked out?
 
Another victim of being poorly utilized by the PCB. He use to bat in situations which would contradict with his style of play, but beauty about Razzaq is that he always tried his level best and was a fantastic role model for the youngsters considering he stayed away from controversies.

In my opinion, he striked the ball more cleanly then any other explosive batsmen in the current line up (ie Afridi, Shehzad and Umar). His performances v England and SA in recent years will never be forgotten. Also his bowling performance v Australlia in recent tournament was mouth-watering.

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Excellent to hear that though he's on the outer at the moment he's still working hard.

Never ever count out the Saag-man :razzaq
 
If Razzaq is given confidence by team management, he can still be a handuful
 
Can barely walk leave alone run!!! His fielding cost us the World Cup match v India in SA dropped Tendulkar at mid off on Wasim's bowling. He may not be done with international cricket but international cricket is done with him!!! Razzaq is truly over the hill, period.
 
Ofcourse .. some people never retire and people understand they wont play anymore. Has moyo retired?
 
In a world where International legends are retiring from International cricket with their heads held high for what they have done for their country. This guy is being shameless and not accepting that he is past his prime even though he wasn't anything more than a hard hitter and an average medium pacer. His legs are long gone and it would be a disgrace if this guy is allowed back into the team.

Saying that he's past it now is a different thing. Even the biggest fans of him, like me, would agree. But you are just being utterly disrespectful here. Well, it's easily. Razzaq has given too much too Pakistan cricket. It's just easy to come here and speak bullcrap about how he was.
 
Saying that he's past it now is a different thing. Even the biggest fans of him, like me, would agree. But you are just being utterly disrespectful here. Well, it's easily. Razzaq has given too much too Pakistan cricket. It's just easy to come here and speak bullcrap about how he was.

Yeah a lot of mud being thrown at one of the best servants of Pakistan cricket for the last 20 years. So long as he keeps working hard at his game should keep supporting him
 
Razzaq and afridi in form would of been devastating lower order hitting for us
 
its such a shame, he had so much potential. work ethic and in the past few years idiotic bitterness and pride has been his own worst enemy.

even this article is laced with arrogance and finger pointing at everyone other than himself. its yet another black mark on the pcb and its culture that so many of our players end up fading away in a cloudy mist of arrogance and egotism that seems to emerge from their own rears.
 
A player past his sell by date, time to move on and should never be re-selected again.
 
Razzaq should have been used a as a opener vs fast bowler.. He was not hardworking but he was also very mishandled.. he is past it. but I feel we can use him in t20 as an opener he is better than Kamran Akmal, kami is fat and do not score any runs these days.. Razzaq mishit are sixes...


In my view Razzzaq should play only t20 for Pakistan... and open in odi as well, we can use him in world cup 2015, we Sharjeel are hopeless, Razzzaq has played well in australia
 
Razzaq should have been used a as a opener vs fast bowler.. He was not hardworking but he was also very mishandled.. he is past it. but I feel we can use him in t20 as an opener he is better than Kamran Akmal, kami is fat and do not score any runs these days.. Razzaq mishit are sixes...


In my view Razzzaq should play only t20 for Pakistan... and open in odi as well, we can use him in world cup 2015, we Sharjeel are hopeless, Razzzaq has played well in australia

Razzaq is past it he isn't good enough for International Cricket anymore. He's given us a lot of great moments in the past but his time as an International Cricketer should be over.

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Anyone here have any insight on Razzaq's recent form? As in not his form 3 years ago.
 
No one should be allowed to live off past glories, no matter how well they have done in the past

You perform or ur out, simple as. He isnt owed anything, If anything he owes pakistan cricket for making him a big name

Time to close this chapter
 
Pakistan still lacking a genuine big hitting all rounder in domestic cricket.

Only time will tell if Razzaq's days as an international cricketer are over.
 
So far :-

Abdul Razzaq - 4 matches for Hem Heath in the North Staffs Leagues. 4 innings, 139 runs, highest score of 79* & 3 wkts for 97 runs
 
When was the last time he played a first class match.
 
So far :-

Abdul Razzaq - 4 matches for Hem Heath in the North Staffs Leagues. 4 innings, 139 runs, highest score of 79* & 3 wkts for 97 runs

Thats quite acceptable Saj, for early May in the UK. Hope he has his thermals on. Think he'll be a little rusty after such a long lay off but hopefully he will be on full throttle soon.

Still think he is past his sell by date for international cricket but wish him well.
 
Razzaq should in in world cup 2015 he is really good hitter of fast bowl
 
When was the last time he played a first class match.

According to cricinfo 14th Jan this year and prior to that he played a couple of FC matches in Oct.

Unfortunately for Razzaq he never really took his fitness and fielding seriously (well that's the impression I get). Compare him to Azhar Mahmood who despite being snubbed by his country for a number of years worked his rear end off as a genuine all rounder in County cricket until the age of 38/39. The latter is true pro who just gets on with his job quietly whereas Razzaq just whines 24/7 and thinks the world owes him a living.
 
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Abdul Razzaq settling into Staffordshire life at Hem Heath Cricket Club
Samuel Parr | May 8, 2014 | 0 Comments

Former Pakistan international cricketer Abdul Razzaq says he is settling into life in Staffordshire and enjoying playing for Hem Heath.

The North Staffordshire and South Cheshire League may be a bit of a step down for the 34-year-old, who made over 350 appearances for his country, but Razzaq insists he is just enjoying his cricket.

In an exclusive interview with StaffsLive, he said: “I am quite used to living over here, I’ve played for so many counties and I love to stay in England.”

Despite losing two out of their first three league games, Razzaq guided Hem Heath to a cup win last weekend, hitting 79* off just 71 balls.

And he expressed his desire to continue performing well for the team, helping them to bounce back from their shaky start.

He said: “I have come here to perform and to win every match, we had bad luck in the last two matches we have played but hopefully next match we can win.”

Hem Heath welcome Porthill Park this Saturday and with the buzz of their cup win still in the air coupled with Razzaq’s hunger for wickets and runs they believe they have every chance to emphatically kick start their season.

http://staffslive.co.uk/2014/05/08/...staffordshire-life-at-hem-heath-cricket-club/
 
You're not finished with int'l cricket - int'l cricket is finished with you.
 
They are rubbish in all disciples of the game. Razzaq is still a match winner with the bat.
 
Anyone still thinks that Razzaq should come back for at least a last World Cup stint?

Honestly seeing our pace battery for Australia inspires me no confidence.

And if Afridi doesn't fire with bat, we don't have any lower order hitter bar Akmal.


I know it's insanity but I want to risk it, just because we don't have anyone who can bowl some overs with incisiveness in the World Cup.
 
The guy makes Indian bowlers look like speedsters, horrible attitude who will never take any responsibility for his non performances.

Thanks but no thanks.
 
Anyone still thinks that Razzaq should come back for at least a last World Cup stint?

Honestly seeing our pace battery for Australia inspires me no confidence.

And if Afridi doesn't fire with bat, we don't have any lower order hitter bar Akmal.


I know it's insanity but I want to risk it, just because we don't have anyone who can bowl some overs with incisiveness in the World Cup.

Yes, it is insanity.While you are at it recall Malik and Kami as well.Why do we have to recall a player is way past his sell date in the first place??

You think Razzaq will be any useful with the ball at 155-120 kph with zero movement??That the ideal pace to be carted all around the park.He seems to have lost his mojo with the bat as well.The series against SA showed that.On top of that he is a huge liability in the field.Add 10 runs for that as well.

We have a way better option in Hammad anyway.Lets, try him for a while, shall we?? Ideally,he should have been on the plane to Lanka.
 
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I think he deserves one final chance. If he is good, he would have proved a point. If he is bad, he can get over his delusion.
 
Lol [MENTION=110753]bass[/MENTION]im you routinely mock Afridi Kami and Malik for being hacks and TTFs but want Razzaq back. Razzaq was finished by 2011. He trundles at 120Ks is a pathetic fielder and his batting isnt all that now. Anwar Ali would be a bettwr option than Razzaq and Anwar is rubbish
 
How many final chances are we going to give players who have done nothing for years on end? No wonder the pakistan team never progresses as we cant seem to move on from the past
 
Pakistan is finished with you now razzaq. You've been a brilliant cricketer but it's time to call it a day
 
All I am saying is, if we can give 19 years to Afridi with 1 in 20 match performance, why are we discarding Razzaq because he didn't fire in 05 odd matches?

Isn't that a clear dichotomy?

And I don't want Malik and Kami to get chances, because they are habitual failures.

But Razzaq has been there done that. He has proved so many times he belongs at international level.

When Afridi can get a free ride for 20 matches on back on 1 performance, than why not Razzaq who actually is not as crazy as Afridi?

And don't get me wrong. I just want Pakistan to win the World Cup. And they won't win it with Bhatti and Anwar Ali trundling and never having played the innings under pressure.

After World Cup he can be discarded forever ( if he is a flop).
 
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All I am saying is, if we can give 19 years to Afridi with 1 in 20 match performance, why are we discarding Razzaq because he didn't fire in 05 odd matches?

Isn't that a clear dichotomy?

And I don't want Malik and Kami to get chances, because they are habitual failures.

But Razzaq has been there done that. He has proved so many times he belongs at international level.

When Afridi can get a free ride for 20 matches on back on 1 performance, than why not Razzaq who actually is not as crazy as Afridi?

And don't get me wrong. I just want Pakistan to win the World Cup. And they won't win it with Bhatti and Anwar Ali trundling and never having played the innings under pressure.

After World Cup he can be discarded forever ( if he is a flop).
Afridi is much more likely to win us a match in the WC than Razzaq. Razzaq is way past his peak his batting has declined his fielding was never good has gone even worse. And as a bowler he was finished 3-4 years ago. The fact is since his comeback post CT 2013 Afridi has been a vital cog in our LOI team his bowling has gone someway back to his pre 2012 form. And he has two crucial matchwinning knocks in his last few ODIS. now im not saying Afridi will replicate that in the WC. But on current form Afridi cant be dropped and Razzaq hasnt really shown he warrants a place at the expense of Afridi
 
Afridi is much more likely to win us a match in the WC than Razzaq. Razzaq is way past his peak his batting has declined his fielding was never good has gone even worse. And as a bowler he was finished 3-4 years ago. The fact is since his comeback post CT 2013 Afridi has been a vital cog in our LOI team his bowling has gone someway back to his pre 2012 form. And he has two crucial matchwinning knocks in his last few ODIS. now im not saying Afridi will replicate that in the WC. But on current form Afridi cant be dropped and Razzaq hasnt really shown he warrants a place at the expense of Afridi


I wasn't asking Afridi to be replaced.

I was thinking more along the lines of Razzaq and Afridi forming the lower order hitting for Pakistan.
 
Look, I think we discarded Razzaq way too early. He is still the cleanest striker of the ball in the country but his bowling has vastly regressed. At his peak he bowled at a very sharp pace and generate reverse swing, now he's just a harmless trundler but, if you are going to cite the likes of Bhatti and Anwar as replacements, I don't have a problem with Razzaq.

He wouldn't have been needed though if Hammad would have been given a proper chance. He's a very clean hitter as well and his bowling is similar to that of Razzaq of today.
 
Look, I think we discarded Razzaq way too early. He is still the cleanest striker of the ball in the country but his bowling has vastly regressed. At his peak he bowled at a very sharp pace and generate reverse swing, now he's just a harmless trundler but, if you are going to cite the likes of Bhatti and Anwar as replacements, I don't have a problem with Razzaq.

He wouldn't have been needed though if Hammad would have been given a proper chance. He's a very clean hitter as well and his bowling is similar to that of Razzaq of today.

Difference Mamoon is one is the cleanest strike of the ball at world stage and has done it countless times.

Hammad is struggling to even notch up numbers in domestic circuit

I was his fan when he was setting U19 World Cup alight, but he has gone nowhere from there.

You could potentially put Hammad in the team, but don't expect Razzaqesque miracles from him.
 
Hammad's domestic numbers are ordinary, but I would say that he has done reasonably well with the bat for Pakistan. In the few matches that he has played, he did well vs England in a T20, Asia cup final and that ODI in WI 2011 where he prevented a collapse along with Misbah in difficult conditions. All his good performances have come in pressure situations and the way he has been completely sidelined is unfair.

Performances for Pakistan hold greater value that runs in domestic cricket.
 
All I am saying is, if we can give 19 years to Afridi with 1 in 20 match performance, why are we discarding Razzaq because he didn't fire in 05 odd matches?

Isn't that a clear dichotomy?

And I don't want Malik and Kami to get chances, because they are habitual failures.

But Razzaq has been there done that. He has proved so many times he belongs at international level.

When Afridi can get a free ride for 20 matches on back on 1 performance, than why not Razzaq who actually is not as crazy as Afridi?

And don't get me wrong. I just want Pakistan to win the World Cup. And they won't win it with Bhatti and Anwar Ali trundling and never having played the innings under pressure.

After World Cup he can be discarded forever ( if he is a flop).

2 wrongs dont make a right, afridi doesnt deserve a place in the team but that doesnt mean we should add others who dont either

Razzaq played in the last odi and t20 world cup and looked a shadow of the played he was and did jack , this was 2 and 4 years ago respectively - he suddenly isnt going to wakeup one day now at 36 and be the player he used to be with no quality cricket behind him for years

We need to face facts and stop living in fantasy land
 
I will take Bhatti and Anwar over Razzaq any day.Bhatti is way more sharp than Razzaq and they both are no mugs with bat either.

Add to that Razzaq's fielding efforts would pass for a horror movie.The way he lies on the ground after the ball goes past him in slow motion like a hero out of 80's Punjabi film is absolutely cringe worthy.

Forget Bhatti and Anwar, even Irfan puts in more of an effort than him.No commitment or conviction whatsoever.
 
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