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Imad Wasim - As a batting all-rounder in Tests?

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He averages 40 with the bat in FC, and 31 with the ball, which is quite impressive for a batting all rounder. His stats are quite interesting, as most of the upcoming young batsmen tend to average 40 or less in FC, lol, while he is averaging 40 with the bat and also got a decent bowling average, which is better than the upcoming youngsters overall.

My suggestion is why not play him as a batting all rounder in Test cricket, at number 6? He can be useful with the ball, if used smartly, and will share the burden of overs.

And funnily, he can even be selected as a specialist batsman ahead of Shan, Babar and Sami, in Test cricket, lol.

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Idk if you have watched his batting over the last year or so but he has completely lost it.
 
His batting is not Test level , he cannot be a test batsmen at number 6 .

Also , his bowling will be toothless when batsmen do not go after him. In Test you need wicket taking bowling option.
 
His bowling one completely one dimensional while he can no longer bat. If ever selected for test cricket, he will probably go down as one of the most useless test crickets ever.
 
He is a Yuvraj Singh type of player. He’d make a good strong low order
 
IW is one of my biggest surprises. His FC stats are outstanding, his T20/ODI batting stats are excellent, if not outstanding for a #7. And, he was among big top 3 in T20 bowling for a good period....

These facts suggest, he should be an excellent allrounder for 3 formats. On top of that he was U19 Captain for long and he was made Captain of KK as well.

Then I see him playing and wonder - how & why?
 
IW is one of my biggest surprises. His FC stats are outstanding, his T20/ODI batting stats are excellent, if not outstanding for a #7. And, he was among big top 3 in T20 bowling for a good period....

These facts suggest, he should be an excellent allrounder for 3 formats. On top of that he was U19 Captain for long and he was made Captain of KK as well.

Then I see him playing and wonder - how & why?

His ODI bowling stats are very deceiving

Against the top 8 sides, his bowling average jumps up to 45 with a best of 2/13. 15 wickets in 21 matches.
 
As a batter, I think he would do no worse than Nawaz or Sarfraz have in recent times. Actually I can see him succeeding with some counter attacking fifties as he has the mental toughness to succeed.
But as a bowler in Tests, he will be the opposite of what he is in the LOIs, he will be the guy the batters will be most comfortable to play and will easily go for 3.5 an over with no wickets. Rotating strike against him will be very easy against him in Tests.
 
His ODI bowling stats are very deceiving

Against the top 8 sides, his bowling average jumps up to 45 with a best of 2/13. 15 wickets in 21 matches.

Still it’s great for a player with 36/90 sort of batting stats. And, in T20 is was a top bowler - his fans can always argue for a Test call (actually they are saying the same : 5th bowler & #6 batsman) - but how (that stat), I can’t explain.
 
He had a very promising start to his career but right now even Hassan Ali looks like a better batsman.
 
He had a very promising start to his career but right now even Hassan Ali looks like a better batsman.

Nope. Some cow corner hoicks like Anwar Ali were able to deceive some.

He's just another Anwar Ali, like Nawaz is.

Useless.
 
He should stick to T20 cricket. That's the only format he has any use for Pakistan.
 
Really needs to get back on the field soon for Pakistan.
 
He averages 40 with the bat in FC, and 31 with the ball, which is quite impressive for a batting all rounder. His stats are quite interesting, as most of the upcoming young batsmen tend to average 40 or less in FC, lol, while he is averaging 40 with the bat and also got a decent bowling average, which is better than the upcoming youngsters overall.

My suggestion is why not play him as a batting all rounder in Test cricket, at number 6? He can be useful with the ball, if used smartly, and will share the burden of overs.

And funnily, he can even be selected as a specialist batsman ahead of Shan, Babar and Sami, in Test cricket, lol.

Have your say?

Do not show this to Mickey Arthur 👀👀
 
IW is one of my biggest surprises. His FC stats are outstanding, his T20/ODI batting stats are excellent, if not outstanding for a #7. And, he was among big top 3 in T20 bowling for a good period....

These facts suggest, he should be an excellent allrounder for 3 formats. On top of that he was U19 Captain for long and he was made Captain of KK as well.

Then I see him playing and wonder - how & why?

he has played a lot of his FC cricket at regional level rather than departmental
 
he has played a lot of his FC cricket at regional level rather than departmental

I know, in fact not sure if he has played for Corporate teams. Still 40+ batting and ~30 bowling average is outstanding - you reverse that with batting & bowling averages still he should walk into PAK squad at least, which plays most Tests in UAE.

My personal opinion is that he is an average cricketer who outperformed his level through hard work, intelligence and commitment - now that he is PAK regular (was almost Vice Captain select...), he has taken foot from gas paddle and his lack of talent/skills are exposing him big time. And, his fitness isn't helping either - shouldn't be in any squad other than T20; he'll not survive 5 days with this fitness.
 
Either he or Nawaz would be a good number 8 batsman in order to increase the batting depth in the line up and provide a useful defensive left arm spin option.

Folks here need to also remember the likes of Yasir and Shadab are not suitable in English conditions earlier in the season going by what I know of the grounds here, having been to most of them - they are simply just not conducive to spin at this time of the year - 8 or 9 times out of 10 it is like bowling in New Zealand. Later in the summer, temperatures go up and sun bakes on these pitches taking all the moisture and green out of the wicket. Along with the weather, pitches become more tired as they are used more (during a heavy loaded FC season), can therefore deteriorate in time for pure wicket taking spinners to be of much more use.

As wrist spinners who are not big turners of their stock delivery and lack variations, wicket taking options already become limited. Therefore under these circumstances in a pre - English Summer, the only other realistic objective for a spinner is to bowl economically and stem the flow of runs via the means of accumulating dot ball pressure.

Yasir and Shadab do not know how to bowl defensively, which is why some posters (from another thread) have suggested the former's injury could be a blessing in disguise but guess that is no longer the case since neither Imad or Nawaz have been named in the 25 man squad. Asghar could possibly do the job or the likes of B.Asif and etc, however the batting depth of a frail batting unit has diminished further as the other spinners are even worse than Yasir with the bat! - as much as I respect his determination and resilience he isn't good enough at 8.

Everyone thinks about playing the best batsmen, pacers and spinners based on technical ability and stats but no one considers the importance of batting depth which is one of the main reasons why Pakistan is so far behind the likes of Aus, Eng, India and etc who all pay their due regard to the significance of a deep batting order. It can literally make the difference between winning and losing a match. We all remember YK's 218 at Oval but how many of us still remember the significance of the runs from the tail? - with Yasir, Amir and etc wagging with crucial partnerships with YK resulting in a 200+ unassailable lead. If Pakistan had Wasim, Waqars or M.Asifs with a half decent batting line up then perhaps they could get away with walking tail enders.

Yes the batsman are there to set the platform but don't underestimate the value of runs from lower down the order especially in low to mid scoring tests.
 
Either he or Nawaz would be a good number 8 batsman in order to increase the batting depth in the line up and provide a useful defensive left arm spin option.

Folks here need to also remember the likes of Yasir and Shadab are not suitable in English conditions earlier in the season going by what I know of the grounds here, having been to most of them - they are simply just not conducive to spin at this time of the year - 8 or 9 times out of 10 it is like bowling in New Zealand. Later in the summer, temperatures go up and sun bakes on these pitches taking all the moisture and green out of the wicket. Along with the weather, pitches become more tired as they are used more (during a heavy loaded FC season), can therefore deteriorate in time for pure wicket taking spinners to be of much more use.

As wrist spinners who are not big turners of their stock delivery and lack variations, wicket taking options already become limited. Therefore under these circumstances in a pre - English Summer, the only other realistic objective for a spinner is to bowl economically and stem the flow of runs via the means of accumulating dot ball pressure.

Yasir and Shadab do not know how to bowl defensively, which is why some posters (from another thread) have suggested the former's injury could be a blessing in disguise but guess that is no longer the case since neither Imad or Nawaz have been named in the 25 man squad. Asghar could possibly do the job or the likes of B.Asif and etc, however the batting depth of a frail batting unit has diminished further as the other spinners are even worse than Yasir with the bat! - as much as I respect his determination and resilience he isn't good enough at 8.

Everyone thinks about playing the best batsmen, pacers and spinners based on technical ability and stats but no one considers the importance of batting depth which is one of the main reasons why Pakistan is so far behind the likes of Aus, Eng, India and etc who all pay their due regard to the significance of a deep batting order. It can literally make the difference between winning and losing a match. We all remember YK's 218 at Oval but how many of us still remember the significance of the runs from the tail? - with Yasir, Amir and etc wagging with crucial partnerships with YK resulting in a 200+ unassailable lead. If Pakistan had Wasim, Waqars or M.Asifs with a half decent batting line up then perhaps they could get away with walking tail enders.

Yes the batsman are there to set the platform but don't underestimate the value of runs from lower down the order especially in low to mid scoring tests.

That's why I want Shadab at 8 and Fahim at 9, which will lengthen the batting line up. Two specialist fast bowlers are enough. Fahim can make up for the third specialist fast bowler.
 
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