Imad Wasim vs Umer Khan - The World Cup spot

[gazza619]

This is tricky one. A really tricky one. On one hand you have established defensive spinner who also contributes some decent runs. On the other hand you have this bright shining light named Umer Khan. The kid is capable of ripping through the middle order of a batting unit.

For me it is the blunder of the decade that Umer has not been selected for Australia ODIs. I mean surely we should have tested his metal.

Anyways I am personally still convinced that Umer is the man.

Please vote, and remember Inzi may be watching so make sure your vote counts.

 

[a_tahir]

Wrong comparision

 

[gazza619]

Wrong comparision

You surely wont take two left arm spinners to England. The comparison is perfectly legitimate.

You could argue that Imad Wasim can bat too but essentially he is a bowler who can bat.

 

[coy0607]

^like tahir said, wrong comparison

Also, Imad has been performing reasonably well as the 5th bowler and 7/8 batsmen - no comparison between the two at the moment

And Umar isn't selected in the Aus series, so that just leaves the English series and I think that squad will be the same as WC squad. So there is no more opportunity to test Umar before WC

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I wouldn't put Umer Khan anywhere near the WC frame. Imad is the only proper all-rounder in the side who can both; bowl accurate and economic spells and hit the long ball. He is integral role to our WC plans.

 

[gazza619]

^like tahir said, wrong comparison

Also, Imad has been performing reasonably well as the 5th bowler and 7/8 batsmen - no comparison between the two at the moment

And Umar isn't selected in the Aus series, so that just leaves the English series and I think that squad will be the same as WC squad. So there is no more opportunity to test Umar before WC

I hear what you are saying.

For me the benchmark for Pakistan is to beat India. And to be honest I cannot see how Imad Wasim will be a threat to Indian batsmen or bowlers.

On the other hand I feel more confident that Umer will bamboozle the likes of Rohit and Kohli.

Umer picks three key wickets vs India, Pakistan wins the match. It is as simple as that really.

 

[The Viper]

I wouldn't put Umer Khan anywhere near the WC frame. Imad is the only proper all-rounder in the side who can both; bowl accurate and economic spells and hit the long ball. He is integral role to our WC plans.

Exactly. Umer Khan should have been in the squad vs Aus instead of Yasir Shah but now he isn't there is not a chance he is picked in WC squad. Imad space is secure for me.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Imad's batting will always push him ahead. It's too valuable to this brittle batting line up.

 

[zain7077]

I’d have Zafar Gohar over both.

 

[hitthestump]

Unless you want to play the WC with a tail which starts at 7 there's no comparison between the pair.

 

[giri26]

Okay one player who has played and performed at the international level and the other hasn't played a single game. He has played only 5 LOI games and 1 FC game. Fantastic comparison this.

 

[sshakir411]

A lot has been has been invested in Imad to ditch him before the WC. Umer is good but he's only had 1 PSL. WC will probably have Shaheen, Shadab, Ashraf, and Shinwari. That bowling line up is already inexperienced.

 

[mon858]

I would rather play him in place of Shadab who hasnt been perfoming much lately. Imad has a confirmed spot due to all round ability, as well as experience and performance in England in the past.
Also, maybe it's good he didnt play in aus series and perhaps even eng series. He can be a surprise weapon, there is a chance some players may get injured during this long summer he can come in later too.

 

[Rayyman]

The disrespect

 

[moghul]

Talented Umar Khan has very very long way to go before he could be compared with Imad.

 

[Sher Khan]

It should be umer Khan Vs yasir shah. But umer won't make the wc squad now. Lets see how yasir performs in this series. Yasir has a serious chance of making the wc squad. Since these pitches here are low scoring and aus batsmen struggle against him.

 

[saeed5646]

Umer khan is turning out to be pp darling.lets see how much worth he deserves to be hype.

Imad is better batsmen and will definitely play him against non asian team.he merits his place in worldcup squad

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

Agreed that Imad is a bowler who can bat. But, even if you completely take his batting out of the equation, I would still go with Imad for now. That doesn't mean I am saying that Imad is the better of the two, however, I am saying that I don't think it is safe to take Umer to the WC because he is quite young and possibly not developed or not experienced when it comes to bowling 10 overs in an innings. If he was picked for the AUS tour he had a chance, but for now I think Imad is the safer and better call.

 

[Sadozai]

Umer is a wicket taking option but its risky to debut a spinner in the WC. He should have been given a chance in Aus series to prove himself at the international level but that didn't happen. (May be someone could get INJURED during first 2 ODIs against Aus.

Imad is economical bowler, who can also contribute little bit with the bat, so considering our weak lower order batting he deserves to be in WC squad.

Shadab's performance in recent past (specially against non-minnows) is below average and he don't deserve a place in WC squad on this performance. I don't buy this argument that 2 left arm spinners cannot be the part of WC squad. Bowlers who are performing better should be part of WC squad regardless they are left arm or right arm.

 

[kingusama92]

Imad in CT 17


5 Matches

Bat: 14.50 AVG
Bowl: 69.00 AVG



Sadly Umer Khan isn't much of a choice and is a complete unknown in ODIs.

 

[topspin]

The comparison should be Umer Khan v Shadab Khan.

The latter's inability to score quickly adds no value to Pakistan's batting and his bowling of late has been poor, so we may as well pick the best wicket taking specialist spin bowler, which I believe Umer Khan might well be.

 

[IAJ]

Imad is a must in the team, one of the few big stikers we have.

 

[Bilal7]

Umer who? Let's wait till he plays an international before boarding the hype train, shall we?

 

[aloo paratha]

I'd rather have Umer khan then have Faheem Ashraf.

 

[Rayyman]

Lolol

Imad has 118 runs off of 67 balls so far this year (SR of 176 is 2nd best after Neesham).

He gets in on his batting alone as the finisher.

 

[Boycottisno2]

Imad Wasim to be in the WC squad..... Umar Khan is a complete rabbit with the bat..... no contest

 

[hadi123]

Has to be Imad Wasim. No doubt about it. His batting gives him an edge and he can be a very useful bowler when there's another spinner in the XI who isn't useless i.e. Shadab Khan. Him and Shadab complement each other well as Shadab is more attacking, may go for more runs but picks up wickets and Imad Wasim can tie down one end.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Imad plays as an all-rounder. This is not even a comparison. Umer is/should be competing with Shadab.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Umer Khan.

Proper spinner comes first, all rounder comes next.

 

[Abdullah]

We should have thrown him in pakistan style.
This current series should have been a bowl our between umer n shadab.
Also part of me thinks we should have variety in our bowling so should have 6 bowling options. Maybe that frees room for both ( if we give Imad the batting responsibility of say hafeez

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Only one other poster apart from me voted for Umer lol.

And I dont get this new wave of Imad being the allrounder. An allrounder who has a bowling average of 42 and is 0% reliable to take wickets. Even Hafeez was more reliable to take wickets.

Surprised that many feel Imad as an all rounder and not Shadab who can go for runs but is a wicket taker and can bat too. I feel Umer's competition is with Imad rather than Shadab as both are left arm spinners and both cant make the team at the same time.

Even though Sarfraz uses Imad very well, Maddy is just not a reliable spinner and his batting is not so great that we can give him leniency in bowling.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Pakistan has no all rounders in their set up.

I repeat Pakistan has no all rounders in their setup.

Having said that, there is hope Imad will find his bowling chops. If he does, he can be valuable.

Umer Khan should compete with Yasir Shah - and win.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Pakistan has no all rounders in their set up.

I repeat Pakistan has no all rounders in their setup.

Having said that, there is hope Imad will find his bowling chops. If he does, he can be valuable.

Umer Khan should compete with Yasir Shah - and win.

Dont see the point of playing both Imad and Umer as both are left arm spinners and relies on arm balls a lot.

 

[gazza619]

Congratulations to the majority who voted for Imad Wasim. He has returned thrilling performances in the ODIs

1st ODI: 28 (13), 10 overs 50/1
2nd ODI: 19 (10), 8 overs 60/0

Now without Imad’s late over slogging Pakistan would have scored 10 runs less in both the ODIs but I can bet my house on the fact that Umer Khan would have made a huge impact in both the games had he been playing.

And to those who think Imad and Umer should both play, I am sorry that does not suit the balance of the team. Imad is not good enough to play as a batsmen who can bowl either.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Congratulations to the majority who voted for Imad Wasim. He has returned thrilling performances in the ODIs

1st ODI: 28 (13), 10 overs 50/1
2nd ODI: 19 (10), 8 overs 60/0

Now without Imad’s late over slogging Pakistan would have scored 10 runs less in both the ODIs but I can bet my house on the fact that Umer Khan would have made a huge impact in both the games had he been playing.

And to those who think Imad and Umer should both play, I am sorry that does not suit the balance of the team. Imad is not good enough to play as a batsmen who can bowl either.

Good post!

 

[gazza619]

I have been proven right again.

Imad Wasim batting at 7/8 does not do anything for us. He is a poor man’s Shahid Afridi. Will ocassionsly score a 30 odd but will never win you matches with the bat. On the bowling he will be decent but again but not win you games.

Even today if we had Umer Khan we would have bowled out Australia under 230.

Now I know you guys would say Umer should have played instead of Yasir, but Yasir is not going WC anyways and Shadab Khan is an automatic pick.

I am begging the selectors to pick Umer Khan for England ODIs and allow him to prove himself.

 

[Titan24]

I have been proven right again.

Imad Wasim batting at 7/8 does not do anything for us. He is a poor man’s Shahid Afridi. Will ocassionsly score a 30 odd but will never win you matches with the bat. On the bowling he will be decent but again but not win you games.

Even today if we had Umer Khan we would have bowled out Australia under 230.

Now I know you guys would say Umer should have played instead of Yasir, but Yasir is not going WC anyways and Shadab Khan is an automatic pick.

I am begging the selectors to pick Umer Khan for England ODIs and allow him to prove himself.

I rate Umer Khan very highly and created a thread for him during PSL. However I believe Shadab coming at 5 down would make our batting really weak.

So combination in which Umer Khan can fit in is

Having

Faheem
Shadab
Umer Khan
Hassan Ali
Shaheen Shah

Without Faheem (A pace bowling all rounder) Umer Khan and Shadab both cant play or else our batting will be really weak.

In the squad he can only come in at an expense of a batsman as you need 4 specialist pacers in UK.

Umer Khan can be a surprise package if selected for WC.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I have been proven right again.

Imad Wasim batting at 7/8 does not do anything for us. He is a poor man’s Shahid Afridi. Will ocassionsly score a 30 odd but will never win you matches with the bat. On the bowling he will be decent but again but not win you games.

Even today if we had Umer Khan we would have bowled out Australia under 230.

Now I know you guys would say Umer should have played instead of Yasir, but Yasir is not going WC anyways and Shadab Khan is an automatic pick.

I am begging the selectors to pick Umer Khan for England ODIs and allow him to prove himself.

I agree with everything you have said regarding Umer Khan.

Imad's 30 off 15 has fooled many people but they are missing the bigger picture where Imad is useless with ball on UAE pitches even after playing so many matches. Even Aussie spinners are better than him.

Umer's 10-40-2 every day over Imad's useless 10-50-0. PSL showed us who is the better bowler where Imad sahab didnt give him overs.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Umer Khan for me. A genuine left arm spinner.

 

[gazza619]

I rate Umer Khan very highly and created a thread for him during PSL. However I believe Shadab coming at 5 down would make our batting really weak.

So combination in which Umer Khan can fit in is

Having

Faheem
Shadab
Umer Khan
Hassan Ali
Shaheen Shah

Without Faheem (A pace bowling all rounder) Umer Khan and Shadab both cant play or else our batting will be really weak.

In the squad he can only come in at an expense of a batsman as you need 4 specialist pacers in UK.

Umer Khan can be a surprise package if selected for WC.

I know what you are saying but guys like Shadab Khan, Imad, Faheem etc are all just tail enders. We have been playing with them for so long and our batting is going nowhere.

Currently I am thinking of the following combo:
1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Haris
6. Hafeez
7. Shadab
8. Amir
9. Hassan Ali
10. Hasnain
11. Umer Khan

My two trump cards are Hasnain and Umer.

 

[Titan24]

I know what you are saying but guys like Shadab Khan, Imad, Faheem etc are all just tail enders. We have been playing with them for so long and our batting is going nowhere.

Currently I am thinking of the following combo:
1. Fakhar
2. Babar
3. Haris
4. Rizwan
5. Hafeez
6. Sarfaraz
7. Shadab
8. Amir
9. Hassan Ali
10. Hasnain
11. Umer Khan

My two trump cards are Hasnain and Umer.

Decent lineup but I would exchange the spots of Sarfaraz and Hafeez bcz at 4 down you need someone who can hit well and Hafeez can do that better than Sarfaraz. I would play some dynamic player over Haris as Haris, Riz and Sarfaraz would be a one dimensional middle order. I dont mind playing even Abid Ali as opener or one down if Babar is openeing.

Also I would play Shaheen over Amir to start the WC

 

[gazza619]

Decent lineup but I would exchange the spots of Sarfaraz and Hafeez bcz at 4 down you need someone who can hit well and Hafeez can do that better than Sarfaraz. I would play some dynamic player over Haris as Haris, Riz and Sarfaraz would be a one dimensional middle order. I dont mind playing even Abid Ali as opener or one down if Babar is openeing.

Also I would play Shaheen over Amir to start the WC

I have actually changed my mind and have dropped Sarfraz. If Rizwan is playing then whats the point of Sarfraz in the team.