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Imam-ul-Haq - the Test player and his potential and the resemblance with Babar pre-2019

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His wicket today

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Always great to see Imam giving people a shut up call.

He has never been bad by any means. He is a fine player for our low standards.

He has good technique, solid temperament and has appetite for big runs.

He is the best Test opener that we have. Shan “Mr. Zero Talent” Masood should never play ahead of him.
 
Still not popular with some.

Cheers from some when they were showing the review for the lbw and it was clear he was out.

He showed poor momentum after he passed 125. Was blocking everything. Compare that to Azhar Ali who looked more confident after passing 100.
 
His batting was really disappointing today and a stark contrast to his batting from yesterday. The pitch still did not have many demons in it today and it was on him to start scoring more quickly because he already began the day on 132. But the defensive mindset he showed in the first session did not help us out at all.

By comparison Azhar was batting at a SR of 80+ once he crossed 100. And I question where we would even be if he hadn't decided to start batting with some intent.
 
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Good Innings from him, was always better option than Butt.

Selector had to stick to his words I suppose which kept him out. Although Shan would have deserved a go too on current form.


Its nice to see some bench strengthened building for both bowlers and batsmen.
 
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I like him.

We need to see more players wearing glasses.

Makes us bespectacled folk feel more included. ;-)
 
He gets lots of unnecessary hate from Pakistani fans. He is a decent ODI opener & could end his career as a very good test opener for Pakistan. He's far less talented than Babar but I think he's mentally tougher than Babar will ever be.

Babar has never been dropped in test matches since his debut but so far he has not played an innings as Imam has played vs an ATG bowling side in his return match. Hope he & Abdullah gets a good run of like 20 matches at the top in test matches.
 
He gets lots of unnecessary hate from Pakistani fans. He is a decent ODI opener & could end his career as a very good test opener for Pakistan. He's far less talented than Babar but I think he's mentally tougher than Babar will ever be.

Babar has never been dropped in test matches since his debut but so far he has not played an innings as Imam has played vs an ATG bowling side in his return match. Hope he & Abdullah gets a good run of like 20 matches at the top in test matches.

He needs to improve his strike rate in odis and continue to work on the short bowl.
 
imam lovers getting carried away by 100 hundred on a dead wicket. Most of our batsmen have got big runs against Australia's bowling in home/UAE series in 2014/2018. Hafeez got a hundred, Ahmed Shehzad got a hundred, Fakhar got 90 odd in one game aswell. Bigger tests will come when surfaces arent dead like this.
 
How many test centuries did Saeed anwar score against Aussies? Imams already got 2 &#55357;&#56846;
 
Imam increases test average by 12 with twin hundreds

Before anyone chips in with "so what, it didn't help Pakistan to win the match!", it is with interest that I note that Imam ul Haq's test match batting average has increased 50% from 25.52 to 37.65, following his twin hundreds in the 1st test match against Australia. Is this some kind of record?
 
Before anyone chips in with "so what, it didn't help Pakistan to win the match!", it is with interest that I note that Imam ul Haq's test match batting average has increased 50% from 25.52 to 37.65, following his twin hundreds in the 1st test match against Australia. Is this some kind of record?

What record? The average is relative. If a batter scored 0 in his very first match but then went on to score 200. That would put his average at 100.

These are just stats. Nothing more
 
If ever there was an example of stats padding, here is one. Imam won't be so lucky to get these sorts of pitch when he travels abroad, which will be his true test of ability.
 
I saw him reverse sweeping, which means he has been adding new strokes .very positive.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most runs by a Pakistani batter in a Test match versus Australia:<br><br>270 Saleem Malik in 1994<br>268 Imam-ul-Haq in 2022<br>259 Younis Khan in 2014<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/yjmN6pgz5l">pic.twitter.com/yjmN6pgz5l</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1501189772408152075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote>
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How many test centuries did Saeed anwar score against Aussies? Imams already got 2 &#55357;&#56846;

:))) your comparing imam to one of pakistans best ever test openers. Do some people even think before they post?
 
Cashed in on a flat wicket against a tired bowling attack. Has looked average when the ball has moved around in the past.
 
How many test centuries did Saeed anwar score against Aussies? Imams already got 2 ��

Saeed Anwar scored 3 centuries against Australia.

But more importantly he scored centuries in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand, India and Sri Lanka.
 
When I first saw Imam in under 19 WC , he looked " next big thing" type talent but subsequently he proved to be a minnow basher or flat tack bully . But , he is still young and if he works hard, the way Shan Masood has been doing , there is no reason he cannot be a very good opener of international class.
 
In last 15 months in Tests,

Imam = 2x100
Smith + Kohli = 1x100 !!
 
I'll just repeat what I said for Hafeez's heroics against NZ in the UAE. If Imam can score two hundreds with such ease in a match then anyone can.

We will talk about a potential resurgence when he does anything of note on a pitch that is not an extension of the M-1.

I think we all have rightfully concluded that he is good on roads, his ODI record is a testament to that.
 
In last 15 months in Tests,

Imam = 2x100
Smith + Kohli = 1x100 !!

Azhar Ali strike rate in last test 50 Steve Smith 40 we now have the makings of a all time great team whitewashes beware we might just win a match in SENA next time.

:hafeez
 
Not sure why Imam's efforts in the match are not being appreciated much. He was kept with the test team for 1.5 years without giving him a single match and then he was dropped from the team. He gets back to domestic cricket scores runs at an avg of 106 (Yes wickets were flat but, they were for everyone).

Now scored 2 100s in a test match vs a quality attack. Irrespective of the pitch, its still called test cricket. Its not like we have never seen a flat wicket before in test cricket (On same wicket Aussies got all out without any of their batsmen scoring a 100).

Already has 9 international 100s at an age of 26. I am pretty sure the hype in the Pak cricket circle after 2 100s vs Aus on the same pitch would have been much more if only his name was Saud, Shan etc. :smith

It was just his 12th test and has played 3 matches in SA, 2 matches in Eng, 1 in Ire and 1 in Aus (More than 50% of his tests in SENA) and like almost every other Pakistani openers he struggled in these countries on his first tour. Vs Ireland Pakistan was 14/3 chasing 160 on a grassy pitch, Imam at 22/23 years of age scored a 74* forming a partnership with Babar and eventually finished the chase, his technique was pretty compact in the match and I watched the innings ball by ball. More then the technique it was the temperament that impressed me as that is the weakness of many Pak batsmen.

Obviously there are things he needs to improve on but, then which batsman we have who is perfect? Very first assumption most fans start with is that a player's skillset is a constant thing which can neither be improved nor polished.

If he becomes stagnant and stops scoring naturally he will get dropped and someone else will take over. However, efforts should be appreciated where due without letting the personal likes and dislikes taking over.
 
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The Rawalpindi Test between host Pakistan and Australia was a batting feast, and Imam-ul-Haq celebrated by striking a century in each innings to move to a career best 63rd with 477 points in ICC's Ranking for Test Batters
 
:))) your comparing imam to one of pakistans best ever test openers. Do some people even think before they post?

Said that for fun bro. They could have played on this pitch for another 10 days. I was the first to suggest on day1 this pitch looks dead and Imam's scored a meaningless
 
Imam-ul-Haq speaking to the press:

"When you play against opposition like Australia and you score runs, it is always an amazing feeling. My recent domestic stint helped me a lot. I have been a part of Pakistan's side for the last year or so but I have been the 12th man and even that helped. I learned a lot sitting outside as I wanted to replicate my ODI performances in the Tests as well. Want to thank my parents for their prayers as well"

"Nobody wants a draw. The curators did not prepare the pitch on my orders nor is he my relative. Cricket Australia also does not curate pitches on our advice when we tour Australia either. Every team curates pitches based on their strengths. It does not matter the type of pitch, my job is to perform."

"I am always criticized no matter if I am on the team or not. I am not sad about the criticism because my job is to perform. It is up to the management to decide whether my runs in the Rawalpindi Test match are quality or not. The sign after scoring the century was for the captain and my teammates. However, I will not reveal the reason behind it"
 
Disappointing from Imam

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Disappointing from Imam

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pathetic shot, when runs were needed under pressure he gets out. its all good and well scoring easy runs on a highway. when you have to bat under scoreboard pressure he was no where to be seen.
 
Arguably the most defensive player in the team and then getting out trying to be aggressive.
 
Embarassing.

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Embarassing.

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Its ok he will have a great series after his 100s on the dead pindi wicket. just ignore the soft dismissals here and his lack of technical ability.
 
Thread title is wrong.
Resemblance with Babar Pre-2019?

Babar yet to prove in test format, at that age 26 all Fab 4 scored tons for fun.
Kohli at 26 scored 4 tons in 4 matches in Australia and was giving it back to the Australians in their own backyard.

Babar is 27 and may be a late bloomer in Test cricket.
 
Too often I feel he will bottle it when the team really needs runs from him.

There are several areas of his batting that he needs to work on and until that happens he will continue to fail at key moments.
 
Thread title is wrong.
Resemblance with Babar Pre-2019?

Babar yet to prove in test format, at that age 26 all Fab 4 scored tons for fun.
Kohli at 26 scored 4 tons in 4 matches in Australia and was giving it back to the Australians in their own backyard.

Babar is 27 and may be a late bloomer in Test cricket.

babars conversion ratio is poor but they have very similar stats after 39 tests.
 
Too often I feel he will bottle it when the team really needs runs from him.

There are several areas of his batting that he needs to work on and until that happens he will continue to fail at key moments.

Bottled it again today, out to a straight ball.

dont worry his series average looks good as he scored runs on pindi highway.
 
Bottled it again today, out to a straight ball.

dont worry his series average looks good as he scored runs on pindi highway.

I would take Imran Butt over Imam any day as his contribution in fielding is far more valuable. Imam is a total bottler when it comes to fielding
 
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Imam out LBW again.

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Imam out LBW again.

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That is ugly. Look at his head position. Shows how clueless he is
 
Inability to play a straight ball. comedy at its best.
 
This guy is actual trash. Not even worthy of being called a flat track bully. Horrible opener who occasionally scores soft runs against weak sides.
 
Imam out LBW again.

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Thank god he didnt waste a review like last time.
 
I would take Imran Butt over Imam any day as his contribution in fielding is far more valuable. Imam is a total bottler when it comes to fielding

Lol.no way..

Atleast Imam bats 40 -50 balls before he gets out.. Imran butt struggled to bat 40-50 balls even against Zimbabwe, would'nt have last 2 overs against Aussies.. He will get out same way, just rinse & repeat would hav been the story, he is that bad to be a test opener..
 
Cross batted on straight ball - the antithesis of an opener.

He may learn. He doesn't have many competing for this slot. Every operner has a good series or two and then back to being found out.

Hoping that Shafique bloke at the other end is solid outside Pakistan too - so one slot is taken.
 
Cross batted on straight ball - the antithesis of an opener.

He may learn. He doesn't have many competing for this slot. Every operner has a good series or two and then back to being found out.

Hoping that Shafique bloke at the other end is solid outside Pakistan too - so one slot is taken.

Was worse then a school boy dismissal snd not the 1st time and wont be the last.
 
He is doing what Shan Masood did when he played in England. Score a big ton then fail there on.
 
This is not a new issue for Imam.. Batting coach Yousuf should point out his problem clearly and work on his technique asap..

His interception point is all over the place, totally out of sync.. Look where his head, hand and eye co-ordination and feet movement.. As someone said above as an antithesis of an opener.

If he doesnt fix this, he will continue to have issues as a test opener.. Top teams will have no trouble working his technique out.. Shafique on the other hand looks solid, his interception is as close to what babar does, playing late and right under his eye and nose drawing a straight line as Hays and Bazid pointed out ..

Imam was dismissed no. of times like this before falling over while playing his shot..Also rmb him being dismissed by Vijay Shankar bowling 125kph in the 2019 WC, similar delivery over the wicket same result..

Rizwan also had this issue before , often falling over while playing his shot which he has fixed to some extent i believe..
 
Not doing anything to dispel the paarchi designation.
 
He's not playing straight, and needs to really work hard on his game. Has time on his side, and I hope he makes use of it. Could be long term opener for Pakistan with Abdullah.
 
Imam will never be a good test batsman. In conditions and against potent bowling attacks he will always be vulnerable. It’s more important to keep your head steady than move your feet. At the time of contact with ball his head is falling away. Now that’s a very bad for a test opener.
 
Look at the line of the ball.

Then look at where his head is.

Terrible technique.

i have said for a long time hes not good enough for test cricket. hes had 2 decent domestic seasons in about 7 seasons. The last one being all played on roads and highways.

He was technically all over place in UAE series vs NZ and hes not improved one bit since then.

people seem to think because he bats slow and takes no risks in ODIs that hes suited to tests. simply not the case, he cant play short ball or play on any sort of challenging surface.

Those hundreds on rawalpindi highway have just give selectors extra excuse to keep him in the side when he shouldnt be.
 
i have said for a long time hes not good enough for test cricket. hes had 2 decent domestic seasons in about 7 seasons. The last one being all played on roads and highways.

He was technically all over place in UAE series vs NZ and hes not improved one bit since then.

people seem to think because he bats slow and takes no risks in ODIs that hes suited to tests. simply not the case, he cant play short ball or play on any sort of challenging surface.

Those hundreds on rawalpindi highway have just give selectors extra excuse to keep him in the side when he shouldnt be.

Exactly he hasn't even gone to SENA conditions and he's already struggling.
 
Lol.no way..

Atleast Imam bats 40 -50 balls before he gets out.. Imran butt struggled to bat 40-50 balls even against Zimbabwe, would'nt have last 2 overs against Aussies.. He will get out same way, just rinse & repeat would hav been the story, he is that bad to be a test opener..

I know he had technical flaws but at least he contributed the other way and we should not forget that some of his catches in South African series were absolute stunners. If you look at Imam his fielding is atrocious to go along with his batting flaws. Hence the comparison from my side
 
Another technically poor dismissal and as usual wastes a review. idiotic and selfish as usual.
 
Another technically poor dismissal and as usual wastes a review. idiotic and selfish as usual.

What was the reason to play that shot?

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Always great to see Imam giving people a shut up call.

He has never been bad by any means. He is a fine player for our low standards.

He has good technique, solid temperament and has appetite for big runs.

He is the best Test opener that we have. Shan “Mr. Zero Talent” Masood should never play ahead of him.

Our best Test opener has zero game awareness as exposed by Lyon
 
Our best Test opener has zero game awareness as exposed by Lyon

I don’t know if it’s lack of knowledge of the game or what? How can the support staff not even know this ? Playing at balls that don’t need to be played at
 
Bad technique playing those deliveries on the legside that he could have just as easily blocked with his leg. Lyon smelled blood and got one to just turn enough out of the rough and draw the edge. The biggest culprit in that dismissal is Imam himself.
 
I don’t know if it’s lack of knowledge of the game or what? How can the support staff not even know this ? Playing at balls that don’t need to be played at

This is what happens when you learn cricket whilst growing up playing PlayStation or Xbox more than actual training
 
As punjabis usually say, if ever there was an ‘Mummy Daddy’ cricketer, it would be Imam ul Haq!
 
Bad technique playing those deliveries on the legside that he could have just as easily blocked with his leg. Lyon smelled blood and got one to just turn enough out of the rough and draw the edge. The biggest culprit in that dismissal is Imam himself.

And he ate up a review too...unforgivable
 
What was the reason to play that shot?

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Reason is hes technically rubbish. He got his place saving 50.
 
A very meek character. Afraid at close catching positions, wary of short ball stuff. Couldn't simply walk off despite a clear edge.
 
What was the reason to play that shot?

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He was playing that shot quite alot but instead he should have been padding that away pluss it's not like he was getting any runs for that shot.
 
At least 5 posters in the match thread predicted that he’d soon get out the way he was playing those leg side deliveries. Surprising that the support staff couldn’t figure it out even during the break.
 
Legside pad it away And then he wastes a review

Its unbelievable the number of times our players have got out this series due to their own incompetenece and lack of general cricketing intelligence
 
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