Imran Khan (Jr) - Your Thoughts on Him?

[Abid Z]

Our pace bowling reserves are finished and we are scraping the barrel now. The likes of Rahat, Imran, Talha and Even Junaid are nothing more than disgrace to our pace bowling legacy on which we pride ourselves on.

From Fazal, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib and Asif to this lot - how depressing.

Our only hope is for Amir to make a successful comeback and overcome the mental hurdles laid in his path mercilessly.

Asif was ridiculously ordinary for his debut series and promptly dropped. So you just don't know how ik will develop. Have faith. Being medium pace is no bad thing, just look at vaas and pollock if judging by speed alone. Ik will learn and develop and if not then there are a handful of others to take his place. The future is bright.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

A bowler of limited ability I think. Although the wicket of Clarke was a stunning delivery. He bowls good lines and lengths though so who knows?

 

[90MPH]

Honestly he's impressed me.

He's moves the old ball not just in the air but it was decking off the pitch too, so there's potential.

He needs to work a bit on his new ball skills, and just add a bit more pace for my liking.

 

[Silly Point]

Whats up with him doing airplanes no matter who takes the wicket. )

 

[sabre1486]

i guess he's on par with the general standard but he is not really what we are used to....i am more alarmed by his lack of fitnesss he was really tailing off pace wise in the latter portions of the game.

 

[Sunny786]

Whats up with him doing airplanes no matter who takes the wicket. )

hahahaha i noticed that too. He pulls out the airplane whenever someone takes a wicket

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Honestly he's impressed me.

He's moves the old ball not just in the air but it was decking off the pitch too, so there's potential.

He needs to work a bit on his new ball skills, and just add a bit more pace for my liking.

I still haven't seen him, but does he get any outswing with the new ball or is it just the usual Pakistan special of reverse in to the pads?

He does seem to be fairly accurate in any case, might be why he's not getting smacked around bowling at that pace.

 

[IAJ]

hahahaha i noticed that too. He pulls out the airplane whenever someone takes a wicket

Genuine team-man and Pak-jazba. Good to see really.

 

[Fahdi]

What is this obsession with pace? He still picked up three wickets!!!

He does not have enough skill with the ball to do well without pace. Another Umar Gul but his length was way better and he isn't obsessed with bowling short like Umar Gul and therefore I think he can be better than Gul in tests. A bowler who will average 30 in tests, I don't see him doing better than this.

But just so you know this is not my final judgement. This track was as dead as they get, offered nothing for the quicks.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He does not have enough skill with the ball to do well without pace. Another Umar Gul but his length was way better and he isn't obsessed with bowling short like Umar Gul and therefore I think he can be better than Gul in tests. A bowler who will average 30 in tests, I don't see him doing better than this.

But just so you know this is not my final judgement. This track was as dead as they get, offered nothing for the quicks.

Gul was actually quite a good bowler on more helpful pitches, he could get the new ball to seam a lot.

 

[Fahdi]

I still haven't seen him, but does he get any outswing with the new ball or is it just the usual Pakistan special of reverse in to the pads?

He does seem to be fairly accurate in any case, might be why he's not getting smacked around bowling at that pace.

Barely did anything with the new ball but in his defence the tracks were just lifeless. Starc bowls big inswingers but he barely swung it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Would Asif have done any better on these low slow wickets?

 

[Fahdi]

Gul was actually quite a good bowler on more helpful pitches, he could get the new ball to seam a lot.

Gul was decent but bowled a terrible length. He will get the same sort seam movement and bowls a better length. But he operates around 130ks so unless he becomes a Philander I don't think he will do too well.

About that wicket of Clarke, he bowled at around 134ks and hence his reverse swing was a lot more potent.

And he is skilled with reverse swing, bowled big inswingers with great control. If he was operating at 140kph he would have been unplayable.

 

[KA$H]

I thought he was deceptively sharper than the speed gun reported.

Was most impressed with his ability to pick up wkts when u least expected

His setting up of pup was masterful

 

[zabalestmsm]

Impressive. Must be given a long run. Very passionate.

 

[yadunoe]

I like how he pitches the ball up but at the very least he is the next gul which isnt that bad

 

[Zaz]

Swung both the old ball and new Always looking to bowl full hence gave a lot of drivable deliveries and thus was expensive however wickets are what Pakistan needed from him and he delivered

 

[mr-k]

They want tape ball cricket Every one think they are expert

I can't fathom why some posters can't understand that bowling slightly short of a length in the uae is gonna result in about 5kph knocked off the speed gun reading immediately as the ball is gonna stick a little in the slow pitch. Therefore we don't have an accurate understanding of imrans true pace as even Mitch seems about 5-10kph slower. Except of course if he just takes the pitch out of the question by bowling low full tosses which he won't do.

So he is not a trundler by any means. He's bowled out swingers and indippers and reversed it while keeping it tight and picked up three good wickets. More importantly for the first time in ages it looks like we have a well synchronised bowling attack and nobody is a weak link. Yes he isn't like Shohaib, amir or asif but they were once in a generation type of bowlers.

What more do you kids want?

 

[mr-k]

Every one can swing new ball but swinging old ball is art which few bowlers can. Remeber Waqar and Wasim won more matches for Pakistan with old ball than new ball.

 

[mr-k]

Asif was ridiculously ordinary for his debut series and promptly dropped. So you just don't know how ik will develop. Have faith. Being medium pace is no bad thing, just look at vaas and pollock if judging by speed alone. Ik will learn and develop and if not then there are a handful of others to take his place. The future is bright.

Agree. And lately Mohammed Irfan was dropped after his first match but look were he is now.

I really like Imran Khan Jr but i dont see any thing special with Rahat Ali

 

[ritzy_123]

Impressed with his courage to pitch the ball up all the time and for that reason he is a bit expensive but he will take more wickets on good pitches..!!

I hope somehow he can increase his pace a bit then he will become a very good bowler..!!

 

[PB]

I would if he can replicate Gul like performances in T20 and ODIS?

if he could, imagine Gul and Imran bowling in tandem in T20's.

 

[Random Aussie]

Looks a bit average but he can produce the odd gem of a ball. Also like that he pitches it up. Remains to be seen if he sticks around or gets dropped forever after one bad game.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

he really come across as what many accuse Junaid of being : a poor mans Gul. However he is doing well and reminds me a bit of Tanvir Ahmed in that he knows how to bowl on flat tracks.

So keep it going for the time being, even though i think Ehsan is a far better prospect

 

[BlackThunder]

Being an avid fast bowling fan I was excited to see a new Pakistani fast bowler in action but as been the case recently with Pakistan I was left disapointed seeing another 130k trundler produced by Pakistan. I am hoping the much hyped Sadaf or Edil can revive the now almost non existing fast bowling legacy of Pakistan, specially in test cricket.

 

[asyed]

This is something I’m not able to understand that why the hell we expect a bowler to break into international test cricket on such a lifeless track and take 5 wickets or more in every innings? Why we expect every new bowler to become super star from the first game? Why expectation are so high and not realistic? All the great fast bowler produced by Pakistan didn’t become star since the first or second test.

Yes, he wasn’t great with the new ball but wasn’t too bad either. However, he possesses skill to reverse swing the old ball. He has courage to pitch the ball up, which is important to pick wickets but on the flip side he was expensive too. The guy has passion so give him a chance. With time I guess he will learn and can improve under Waqar’s watch.

As far as speed is concern then currently he was bowling around 134ks and if given consistent run then his fitness level will improve and speed should be increased as well. If he can bowl around 140ks then his inswingers could be unplayable.

 

[Bewal Express]

Being an avid fast bowling fan I was excited to see a new Pakistani fast bowler in action but as been the case recently with Pakistan I was left disapointed seeing another 130k trundler produced by Pakistan. I am hoping the much hyped Sadaf or Edil can revive the now almost non existing fast bowling legacy of Pakistan, specially in test cricket.

Edil is def around 83mph and Sadaf from reports is in the same range.

 

[ares1000]

Being an avid fast bowling fan I was excited to see a new Pakistani fast bowler in action but as been the case recently with Pakistan I was left disapointed seeing another 130k trundler produced by Pakistan. I am hoping the much hyped Sadaf or Edil can revive the now almost non existing fast bowling legacy of Pakistan, specially in test cricket.

Shoaib retired just a few years ago. A legacy doesn't disappear - from Fazal Mahmood onwards Pak has had goof pace bowlers.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Think he should be ahead of Haris Rauf in the pecking order for T20 cricket. He has decent control and can remember him bowling quite economically in test matches previously.

 

[PakHammer]

I always thought he got a raw deal. He gives 100% effort and has some talent too.

 

[gazza619]

Bowls a heavy ball and is defo a million miles ahead of the overrated Naseem Shah.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Think he should be ahead of Haris Rauf in the pecking order for T20 cricket. He has decent control and can remember him bowling quite economically in test matches previously.

Not a massive wicket taker given his recent performances but certainly economical, someone who's been swept under the rug.

I always keep thinking that if our top order can cut it, can we afford to take out someone down the order and replace them with a specialist bowler.

Imran Khan Jr, Dahani and that spinner from QG looked really impressive.

 

[Abid Z]

I’m not saying he’s a like for like comparison with abbass but certainly these two specialists could be bracketed together to compete against each other for the one spot in the right conditions. We desperately need a tight Line and length bowler in the team that can take occasional wickets but not sure if either of these can step up any longer. I do like imrans pace. Genuinely medium but abbas seems more like a spinner everyday

 

[shamaan]

I don't expect him to make a come back in any format for Pakistan

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bowls a heavy ball and is defo a million miles ahead of the overrated Naseem Shah.

Yes, that is what separates him from the likes of other medium pacers like Abbas, he can hit the deck pretty hard considering he's not the fastest, but more importantly he has a really good control on line and length and knows how to hit areas batsmen don't like.

 

[hitthestump]

I don't expect him to make a come back in any format for Pakistan

He is a Misbah favourite so i wouldn't be surprised. There is definitely 1 wide open slot in the international XI for a pace bowler so if he's given a shot it's fair enough.

 

[badsha001]

His mentor is Umar Gul. His action is very similar to Umar Gul as well. Will take Imran Khan Jr any day over others.

 

[Saj]

A member of 4 teams that won trophies this season.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Think he should be ahead of Haris Rauf in the pecking order for T20 cricket. He has decent control and can remember him bowling quite economically in test matches previously.

Bumped.

What basis is used for selecting fast bowlers?

Would this guy not have been a much better bet on seaming tracks?