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`Imran Khan`s health stable, but facing mental torture`, claims sister after jail meet [Update@post421]

Won’t happen. When Zia did that to Bhutto, he was the absolute leader, now if IK gets a death sentence, every politician in Pak will know it can come back to bite them some day because at the end of the day average Pakistani in 10-15 years from now will blame the govt not the army for hanging IK (if it hapoens) . Sharif bros and Zardari family are too smart: either continued imprisonment or some kind of deal to get him in house arrest or out of country to close it out. That’s my assessment on logic but never say never.
 
Won’t happen. When Zia did that to Bhutto, he was the absolute leader, now if IK gets a death sentence, every politician in Pak will know it can come back to bite them some day because at the end of the day average Pakistani in 10-15 years from now will blame the govt not the army for hanging IK (if it hapoens) . Sharif bros and Zardari family are too smart: either continued imprisonment or some kind of deal to get him in house arrest or out of country to close it out. That’s my assessment on logic but never say never.
If zia can hang bhutto than imran is no one.

I heard this same bs that imran cant be arrested, its social media era we will come to streets. Guess what, he is placed in the cell.

The press conference was not a small one. The atmosphere was same as the one we saw during the pakistan vs india battle that took place few months back.

Now the army is gonna come hard on imran now.
 
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I've been advocating this for a long time He is no politician or statesman but a total nutter populist if someone of the caliber of bhutto ended up being hanged who was a proper statesman and high caliber politician this idiot is nothing fame is world cup won by some good luck and 2 top youngsters in Inzi and once In a generational talent wasim akram .

Politics is one thing, but how can you dream of becoming Prime Minister of a country you constantly attack? You go against the very defenders who protect Pakistan from India and Afghanistan, yet you cosy up to those same countries that work against Pakistan. The contradictions are ridiculous. Seriously, someone make this nonsense make sense.

he's just a narcissist
 
Lovely press conference. He is right, Imran is mentally unstable. Should be hanged now.

Loving how the army is now gonna press down hard on mentally retarded Imran and his party
Oh dear. The fake Liberal mask slips and the deranged media cell worker gets going.

So the FM gets humiliated by his puppets and you guys are attacking IK. Why did he say that is so anti state.

You dont need to be Einstein to see that Munir is lunatic that thinks he is God. You don't have to be a genius to see that he has Sold PK to the Americans to stay in power. So who is the security risk?

Even Fatima Jinnah was called anti state. After spending billions on Social media, they know they are hated and cant control PKs without threatening to kill them
 
Politics is one thing, but how can you dream of becoming Prime Minister of a country you constantly attack? You go against the very defenders who protect Pakistan from India and Afghanistan, yet you cosy up to those same countries that work against Pakistan. The contradictions are ridiculous. Seriously, someone make this nonsense make sense.

he's just a narcissist
Who attacked who? The army broke its oath. Which you have accepted by your posts. The PK state isnt the army and attacking a dictator isnt anti state expecially as he is only a grade 22 officer.
BTW
Who did Maryam Nawaz claim was behind the TTP attacks on PK? Is your memory of Goldish so cancerous that you think the 250mn have forgotten?
 
Politics is one thing, but how can you dream of becoming Prime Minister of a country you constantly attack? You go against the very defenders who protect Pakistan from India and Afghanistan, yet you cosy up to those same countries that work against Pakistan. The contradictions are ridiculous. Seriously, someone make this nonsense make sense.

he's just a narcissist
Where does Munir and the Junta fall in this hierarchy? 🤣🤣🤣🥰

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Politics is one thing, but how can you dream of becoming Prime Minister of a country you constantly attack? You go against the very defenders who protect Pakistan from India and Afghanistan, yet you cosy up to those same countries that work against Pakistan. The contradictions are ridiculous. Seriously, someone make this nonsense make sense.

he's just a narcissist
Look at the real anti state actors. Read it and you start to get who the real criminals are.

@Savak
@The Bald Eagle
Maryam Nawaz was suspected of being involved in the leak of a story to Dawn.[2][3][4] After the publication of the news story, both Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif denied the events and termed the article as fabricated. Sharif ordered action against those responsible for the publication of what he called a "fabricated" story.

 
Serious question- why can’t he be under house arrest with full monitoring? Just remember this, hanging Bhutto was the first time the west started looking at Pakistan state with negative perception. he was one of the rare high achievers from Pakistan. Humanitarian and personal liking for Ik the sportsman aside, it will be an extremely dumb move but then again anything can happen.
if you listen to the press conference its all in there.
 
if you listen to the press conference its all in there.
And wasn't this tactic tried before with the cypher and how did that end? 🤣🤣🥰

You guys have no morals or any brains,. So you listening to him makes no difference as the PK public have been sold this before and its not never worked. Show a bit of courage and take him in an election. We know how Feb 8th ended. Even @Major claimed he voted for him 🤣🤣🤣
 
if you listen to the press conference its all in there.
This is the Generals and their puppets. They murder people in cold blood and use their power to laugh at a poor country. They control everything that is bad. Maybe he could have talked about this. The Judge was appointed by the Junta.
 
My initial thoughts on the DGISPR press conference.

I personally believe this is a massive blunder made by the Army to publicly brand IK as an anti-state actor on the basis of his tweets. The irony in here is that those tweets are publicly available and can easily read through them and then compare it to positioning of the Army. From any objective lens its very difficult to even argue that those are anti-state tweets compounded by the fact that IK has done more for Pakistan than 100s of Pakistanis combined together. This is why I say that on the basis of the tweets Army is now going to lose the international validation that they really want over IK case.

Further to above after today's presser its clear as a day that Army is going to go after IK. Now if anything happens to IK its very clear that Army is 100% responsible for it and even in international media this is now established that Army is directly responsible for IK's state. This will be an easy cop-out now for the current government should anything happen to IK. The entire brunt of it will have to be faced by Pak Army and they would not be able to pass the ball this time around after the presser. Already COAS case in American congress is being looked at again so I don't understand the own goal being done here by the Army.

On top of the above there were some really objectionable things said within the presser which is likely to have no defense. Firstly, in the presser the Army combined international media like Guardian and Al Jazeera together with the ecosystem of anti-state propaganda. Quite a foolish thing to do and objectively speaking there is no evidence to brand international media houses being used by IK to spread anti-state propaganda. If this gets picked on by the international media then there could be massive fallouts from it such as Pakistan's story becoming primetime thing on international media which isn't going to do many favours to current regime. Secondly, if there is a case of litigation for falsely claiming international media to be part of anti-state propaganda then it is likely to be pursued.

In the presser, Mujeeb Ur Rahman was openly declared a traitor. The founding father of Bangladesh with whom Pakistan were desperately trying to patch up ties. Certainly this little statement will not sit well within foreign policy department who would have to defend it. Apart from Bangladesh, India and Afghanistan has been openly declared enemy states. Well its not ideal to say both your neighbours with whom you share 80% of the borders are enemies. This is not great foreign policy statement.

The presser had many other objectionable things stated with reference to CM of KP, with reference of national media, with reference of people of KP. The alarming thing is that pro-PTI vloggers faces were put up on a projector and told the world that they are spreading anti-Pakistan narrative. Now if international media go and seek these faces out it would come across as very stupid because each of these faces have their own personal story to tell the world which is extremely dark and doesn't paint the Army with bright colors.

Overall, this is a massive mistake and I'm sure the people within power would have realised this by now that this is something that cannot be undone. They would now have to go on the defensive for any reaction that would be coming out of this presser. I'm very surprised that the Army had to do this presser. On one end we have the current regime who has been in power for 3 years or more and they literally have no opposition at all either in Parliament or in streets or in media. They reign completely free with no accountability or objections. On other hand we have a man in jail for over 2 year, failed assasination attempt, party completely dismantled, family ridiculed and tortured, wife tortured and ridiculed in public. In short IK has literally lost everything at one end and regime with all powers imagined at other end. Yet we see this press conference. Its completely stunning that with imaan and righteousness you are so powerful even from little dark corner of a jail compared to someone with all the artillery and commands at disposal yet so weak on the inside for the fear of things he has already done.
 
My initial thoughts on the DGISPR press conference.

I personally believe this is a massive blunder made by the Army to publicly brand IK as an anti-state actor on the basis of his tweets. The irony in here is that those tweets are publicly available and can easily read through them and then compare it to positioning of the Army. From any objective lens its very difficult to even argue that those are anti-state tweets compounded by the fact that IK has done more for Pakistan than 100s of Pakistanis combined together. This is why I say that on the basis of the tweets Army is now going to lose the international validation that they really want over IK case.

Further to above after today's presser its clear as a day that Army is going to go after IK. Now if anything happens to IK its very clear that Army is 100% responsible for it and even in international media this is now established that Army is directly responsible for IK's state. This will be an easy cop-out now for the current government should anything happen to IK. The entire brunt of it will have to be faced by Pak Army and they would not be able to pass the ball this time around after the presser. Already COAS case in American congress is being looked at again so I don't understand the own goal being done here by the Army.

On top of the above there were some really objectionable things said within the presser which is likely to have no defense. Firstly, in the presser the Army combined international media like Guardian and Al Jazeera together with the ecosystem of anti-state propaganda. Quite a foolish thing to do and objectively speaking there is no evidence to brand international media houses being used by IK to spread anti-state propaganda. If this gets picked on by the international media then there could be massive fallouts from it such as Pakistan's story becoming primetime thing on international media which isn't going to do many favours to current regime. Secondly, if there is a case of litigation for falsely claiming international media to be part of anti-state propaganda then it is likely to be pursued.

In the presser, Mujeeb Ur Rahman was openly declared a traitor. The founding father of Bangladesh with whom Pakistan were desperately trying to patch up ties. Certainly this little statement will not sit well within foreign policy department who would have to defend it. Apart from Bangladesh, India and Afghanistan has been openly declared enemy states. Well its not ideal to say both your neighbours with whom you share 80% of the borders are enemies. This is not great foreign policy statement.

The presser had many other objectionable things stated with reference to CM of KP, with reference of national media, with reference of people of KP. The alarming thing is that pro-PTI vloggers faces were put up on a projector and told the world that they are spreading anti-Pakistan narrative. Now if international media go and seek these faces out it would come across as very stupid because each of these faces have their own personal story to tell the world which is extremely dark and doesn't paint the Army with bright colors.

Overall, this is a massive mistake and I'm sure the people within power would have realised this by now that this is something that cannot be undone. They would now have to go on the defensive for any reaction that would be coming out of this presser. I'm very surprised that the Army had to do this presser. On one end we have the current regime who has been in power for 3 years or more and they literally have no opposition at all either in Parliament or in streets or in media. They reign completely free with no accountability or objections. On other hand we have a man in jail for over 2 year, failed assasination attempt, party completely dismantled, family ridiculed and tortured, wife tortured and ridiculed in public. In short IK has literally lost everything at one end and regime with all powers imagined at other end. Yet we see this press conference. Its completely stunning that with imaan and righteousness you are so powerful even from little dark corner of a jail compared to someone with all the artillery and commands at disposal yet so weak on the inside for the fear of things he has already done.
They dont know which way to turn. They have killed and kidnapped and broken the PTI but the awaam hates the oath breakers with a passion. All this crap was tried before the elections- the Cypher case, the Iddat case and The Toshakhana case and because the public know IK is more patriotic than 99% of the Generals and any Noora born so far, the narrative has no legs and we saw 8th Feb. The pay billions for Social media posts but they are ignored and have to buy views.
 
My initial thoughts on the DGISPR press conference.

I personally believe this is a massive blunder made by the Army to publicly brand IK as an anti-state actor on the basis of his tweets. The irony in here is that those tweets are publicly available and can easily read through them and then compare it to positioning of the Army. From any objective lens its very difficult to even argue that those are anti-state tweets compounded by the fact that IK has done more for Pakistan than 100s of Pakistanis combined together. This is why I say that on the basis of the tweets Army is now going to lose the international validation that they really want over IK case.

Further to above after today's presser its clear as a day that Army is going to go after IK. Now if anything happens to IK its very clear that Army is 100% responsible for it and even in international media this is now established that Army is directly responsible for IK's state. This will be an easy cop-out now for the current government should anything happen to IK. The entire brunt of it will have to be faced by Pak Army and they would not be able to pass the ball this time around after the presser. Already COAS case in American congress is being looked at again so I don't understand the own goal being done here by the Army.

On top of the above there were some really objectionable things said within the presser which is likely to have no defense. Firstly, in the presser the Army combined international media like Guardian and Al Jazeera together with the ecosystem of anti-state propaganda. Quite a foolish thing to do and objectively speaking there is no evidence to brand international media houses being used by IK to spread anti-state propaganda. If this gets picked on by the international media then there could be massive fallouts from it such as Pakistan's story becoming primetime thing on international media which isn't going to do many favours to current regime. Secondly, if there is a case of litigation for falsely claiming international media to be part of anti-state propaganda then it is likely to be pursued.

In the presser, Mujeeb Ur Rahman was openly declared a traitor. The founding father of Bangladesh with whom Pakistan were desperately trying to patch up ties. Certainly this little statement will not sit well within foreign policy department who would have to defend it. Apart from Bangladesh, India and Afghanistan has been openly declared enemy states. Well its not ideal to say both your neighbours with whom you share 80% of the borders are enemies. This is not great foreign policy statement.

The presser had many other objectionable things stated with reference to CM of KP, with reference of national media, with reference of people of KP. The alarming thing is that pro-PTI vloggers faces were put up on a projector and told the world that they are spreading anti-Pakistan narrative. Now if international media go and seek these faces out it would come across as very stupid because each of these faces have their own personal story to tell the world which is extremely dark and doesn't paint the Army with bright colors.

Overall, this is a massive mistake and I'm sure the people within power would have realised this by now that this is something that cannot be undone. They would now have to go on the defensive for any reaction that would be coming out of this presser. I'm very surprised that the Army had to do this presser. On one end we have the current regime who has been in power for 3 years or more and they literally have no opposition at all either in Parliament or in streets or in media. They reign completely free with no accountability or objections. On other hand we have a man in jail for over 2 year, failed assasination attempt, party completely dismantled, family ridiculed and tortured, wife tortured and ridiculed in public. In short IK has literally lost everything at one end and regime with all powers imagined at other end. Yet we see this press conference. Its completely stunning that with imaan and righteousness you are so powerful even from little dark corner of a jail compared to someone with all the artillery and commands at disposal yet so weak on the inside for the fear of things he has already done.

And who killed the raw agent banglabandu and where is his daughter now ?
 
They dont know which way to turn. They have killed and kidnapped and broken the PTI but the awaam hates the oath breakers with a passion. All this crap was tried before the elections- the Cypher case, the Iddat case and The Toshakhana case and because the public know IK is more patriotic than 99% of the Generals and any Noora born so far, the narrative has no legs and we saw 8th Feb. The pay billions for Social media posts but they are ignored and have to buy views.

Awaam loved the army we saw it on may 9th and days after when civilians with guns joined the army to shoot drones and in barnala sector civilians attacked indian posts with pakistan army .
 
Awaam loved the army we saw it on may 9th and days after when civilians with guns joined the army to shoot drones and in barnala sector civilians attacked indian posts with pakistan army .
The awaam loves PK, they love the army but not criminal oath breaking Generals. You fighting for PK isnt a vote for the Generals. The Generals stood for elections on 8th May and got smashed. Their main candidate couldn't even his own seat and got beat by a cancer sufferer. What an embarrassment you guys are.

Your media cell manager needs to train you better. The duffer and his boss are hated for breaking their oath.
 
Can this be fixed by the PP team? Anytime we click the picture it says 'no permission to see page'
can u plz raise this issue in Match Referee Room with a screenshot, so we will check this issue. Right now its working fine for me!
 
They dont know which way to turn. They have killed and kidnapped and broken the PTI but the awaam hates the oath breakers with a passion. All this crap was tried before the elections- the Cypher case, the Iddat case and The Toshakhana case and because the public know IK is more patriotic than 99% of the Generals and any Noora born so far, the narrative has no legs and we saw 8th Feb. The pay billions for Social media posts but they are ignored and have to buy views.

The bridges have been burnt this time. There are a lot of clever people in the Army who knows very well that the gap between public and Army can only last limited years and the way things are going IK is not budging which means in the long-run its going to be very damaging for Pakistan.

We have folks here who always talk about street power and revolution on streets but if people of Pakistan start revolutionising softly by civil disobedience not paying taxes, etc then its equally going to be troublesome for the Government.

The solution for any sovereign state is to go with the flow of people. If Army think Egyptian model can work in Pakistan then its wrong as there is no Israel for US to protect near Pakistan for which it would pay off the Egyptians. If Army thinks model of UAE / Saudi or China would work in Pakistan then they are wrong too as Pakistan doesn't have the oil like Arabs or manufacturing, logistics, tech and other powers of China.

The only way for Pakistan to function is the way shown by our Quaid i.e. democracy. Everything else is a slow death.
 
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DG ISPR lashes out at Imran's 'anti-army' narrative, dubs it 'national threat'​


DG ISPR Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry assailed incarcerated former premier Imran Khan, on Friday, calling him a "threat to national security" and warning that no one will be allowed to incite the public against the armed forces.

He said that Khan’s “anti-army” rhetoric has crossed the limits of politics and now poses a direct threat to the nation’s security.

Addressing a press conference in Rawalpindi, the DG ISPR described a “creeping national security threat” that the military has deemed necessary to confront.

“Who are you? What message do you want to give? Who do you think you are?" quipped DG ISPR addressing Imran.

He described Imran as a “sick-minded person” and maintained “They [PTI] have a comical obsession with the Pakistan Army. They don’t talk about real issues, and that is their entire politics.”

“We cannot allow them to establish the business of fake news and lies in the country," insisted Gen Chaudhry, adding that a dangerous narrative is being propagated. “This narrative that the military is the state is false. The military is not the state; the government is supreme.”

DG ISPR highlighted the strategic role of Pakistan’s armed forces in protecting the country from external and internal threats, stressing that attacking the military undermines national security. He said, “It is the armed forces that are standing between the Hindutva mindset in India and their hegemonic design, and the people of Pakistan. It is these armed forces that are standing between the khawarij, terrorists, Fitna al-Khawarij, Fiitna al-Hindustan operating from Afghanistan and the people.”

The state uses Fitna al-Khawarij” as a term for terrorists affiliated with the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), while “Fitna al-Hindustan” refers to Indian-backed extremist proxies.

He further added, “Every country has an army. It is a famous saying that there will always be an army in a country, but if it is not yours, it will be your enemy’s. So, the one who attacks their own army and its leadership, is he trying to create space for someone else’s army? What is his design? Why is he trying to do that?”

Continuing his criticism of PTI founder Imran Khan, DG ISPR said that whenever people meet him, he sets aside the law, Constitution, and rules to push a narrative against Pakistan, particularly targeting the armed forces and its leadership.

The DG ISPR stressed that it is for the government, not the military, to decide whether to restrict meetings at Adiala Jail or take action regarding Imran Khan’s social media accounts. He insisted that “they cannot create differences between the Army and the people of Pakistan.”

“Under which law, rules, or constitutional provision can this be allowed? Which politics in Pakistan permits meeting a convict while using it to build a continuous narrative against the country’s armed forces? Which constitutional provision allows this?” Lt Gen Chaudhry asked, referring to PTI’s demand to meet Imran Khan at Adiala Jail, where he has been imprisoned since 2023.

Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry further stated it was crucial for the military’s media wing to address misinformation, clarify doubts, and explain the armed forces’ role clearly. “We need to understand how this narrative is spreading, and unfortunately, how it is being amplified in deep collusion with external actors,” he added.

He emphasized that the Pakistan Army does not represent any ethnicity, language, religion, sect, political ideology, or elite class. “We come from all areas, all religions, all sects, all political views, but we put all that aside once we wear this uniform. We serve and sacrifice daily for the people of Pakistan and the integrity of the country. This is your armed forces, and we are clear about our character and our duty,” he said.

Addressing the regulation of social media and dissent, DG ISPR said, “You talk about Article 17 of the Constitution and freedom of expression. It clearly says that freedom of expression and political activity are permitted, subject to reasonable restrictions. Under reasonable restrictions, nothing can be allowed that goes against the security and integrity of the state.”

He added, “Article 19 says freedom of expression is allowed, and it absolutely is, but such freedom cannot be used to undermine the security, integrity, and defence of Pakistan. Is it written [in the Constitution] or not? So, under which law, constitution, or rules can it be allowed that when you meet a convict, he spins a narrative against the army and its leadership?”

He further responded to a journalist’s question on the May 9 cases, saying that the matters are being handled in civil courts and the military has no role in commenting. “If you want answers, you can address your questions to Azam Nadeem Tarar or the relevant authority,” he added.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/258068...s-anti-army-narrative-dubs-it-national-threat

What an embarrassment to the nation . IK was saving Pakistani lives before this fool was a glint in his father’s eye .

Worrying times, not for Imran khan , his conscience is clear , he’s over 70 and is blessed by God . But for Pakistan this is the beginning of the end . Bankruptcy, corruption, kidnapping , torture , murder , inc against women and children will be seen on a scale never before in the lands history .

Trump was grinning at the circus act of general dumb and pm dumber because Zionists informed his they have bought both the illegitimate government and the armed forces , both in tandem , joint together like Siamese twins born prematurely.

I feel sorry for the good people in Pakistan for what is to come , it’s tough against such evil but the fate of Pakistan is now their decision, rise up or suffer for generations .
 
The bridges have been burnt this time. There are a lot of clever people in the Army who knows very well that the gap between public and Army can only last limited years and the way things are going IK is not budging which means in the long-run its going to be very damaging for Pakistan.

We have folks here who always talk about street power and revolution on streets but if people of Pakistan start revolutionising softly by civil disobedience not paying taxes, etc then its equally going to be troublesome for the Government.

The solution for any sovereign state is to go with the flow of people. If Army think Egyptian model can work in Pakistan then its wrong as there is no Israel for US to protect near Pakistan for which it would pay off the Egyptians. If Army thinks model of UAE / Saudi or China would work in Pakistan then they are wrong too as Pakistan doesn't have the oil like Arabs or manufacturing, logistics, tech and other powers of China.

The only way for Pakistan to function is the way shown by our Quaid i.e. democracy. Everything else is a slow death.

You’re dealing with elite international level , state level criminals . IK called them mafia but it’s a whole another level, they are now part of the global western deep states . No western government will criticise Pakistans abuses because they work for them .

Democracy isn’t needed , only a revolution can change this but Pakistani s will continue suffering , wake up to paratha and eggs , watch nightly news, abuse the tv and go sleep again .
 
The bridges have been burnt this time. There are a lot of clever people in the Army who knows very well that the gap between public and Army can only last limited years and the way things are going IK is not budging which means in the long-run its going to be very damaging for Pakistan.

We have folks here who always talk about street power and revolution on streets but if people of Pakistan start revolutionising softly by civil disobedience not paying taxes, etc then its equally going to be troublesome for the Government.

The solution for any sovereign state is to go with the flow of people. If Army think Egyptian model can work in Pakistan then its wrong as there is no Israel for US to protect near Pakistan for which it would pay off the Egyptians. If Army thinks model of UAE / Saudi or China would work in Pakistan then they are wrong too as Pakistan doesn't have the oil like Arabs or manufacturing, logistics, tech and other powers of China.

The only way for Pakistan to function is the way shown by our Quaid i.e. democracy. Everything else is a slow death.
Great Post. Its depressing watching PK being eaten alive by criminals. The positive s that although they gouged our eyes, we see clearly now. You cant unsee what you have witnessed with your own eyes
 
We have folks here who always talk about street power and revolution on streets but if people of Pakistan start revolutionising softly by civil disobedience not paying taxes, etc then its equally going to be troublesome for the Government.

Overseas Bangladeshis actually tried this method during Hasina's final month. There was a remittance boycott. It put more pressure on the government as remittance was vital for BD's economy. The boycott probably contributed to Hasina's fall also.

I am wondering if overseas Pakistanis will do something similar. We have to wait and see I guess.
 
Overseas Bangladeshis actually tried this method during Hasina's final month. There was a remittance boycott. It put more pressure on the government as remittance was vital for BD's economy. The boycott probably contributed to Hasina's fall also.

I am wondering if overseas Pakistanis will do something similar. We have to wait and see I guess.
This has been tried and majority dont give a crap about what imran khan has to say.
 
Im loving it. Ptis janaza is now confirmed after today.

Hafiz Field Marshall Asim Munir
 
This has been tried and majority dont give a crap about what imran khan has to say.

You have shown no ability to debate , silly claims without any substance. Provide one single scientific poll PTI is not the most popular single party ? Or as you likely do not know what a poll is , detail your arguments to back up your claims .

Whats most interesting is you actually don’t believe what you say , it’s an obligation. It’s not too late to accept reality and you’re tirelessly supporting of crooks . There are others ways of obtaining wealth
:zardari
 
You’re dealing with elite international level , state level criminals . IK called them mafia but it’s a whole another level, they are now part of the global western deep states . No western government will criticise Pakistans abuses because they work for them .

Democracy isn’t needed , only a revolution can change this but Pakistani s will continue suffering , wake up to paratha and eggs , watch nightly news, abuse the tv and go sleep again .
This is the other thing laid bare by the whole destruction of PK. The West, the "bastions of Democracy and free speech" have all gone quiet. Infact they are egging on the oath breakers and in the same breathe they will claim PK is a millitary state.
 
Im loving it. Ptis janaza is now confirmed after today.

Hafiz Field Marshall Asim Munir
The fake beghairat, khooni Liberal exposes his poor understanding again.

We were banned from the elections and we won a 2/3 rd majority. As I remember, some liar claimed he voted for them. I wonder who that was? 🤣🤣🤣
 
Pti fans have been hoping for a turnaround for a few couple of years now lol

Again, it is not about PTI fans it is about people that care for Pakistan Vs people like yourself that support criminals and who are benefactors of criminality and thus complicit in the murders of millions of innocent people....
 
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Lol people care for pakistan are pti supporters?

Same people that were calling the war with india fake and going to india crying for imrans release.

People that ran away from pakistan, shouldnt be commentating on my country.

Asim munir will deal with pti, atleast now even the army has admitted imran is a traitor.

Hoping for the death penalty
 
Again, it is not about PTI fans it is about people that care for Pakistan Vs people like yourself that support criminals and who are benefactors of criminality and thus complicit in the murders of millions of innocent people....
It is about pti fans

Its "PTI vs STATE"

The people of pakistan are the "STATE "

Come on if you really cared about the people of pakistan you wouldn't be in UK you be there, out there with the people of pakistan.

Its all about PTI and imran khan, you guys are losing and its hurting your ego and are frustrated.
 
Lol people care for pakistan are pti supporters?

Same people that were calling the war with india fake and going to india crying for imrans release.

People that ran away from pakistan, shouldnt be commentating on my country.

Asim munir will deal with pti, atleast now even the army has admitted imran is a traitor.

Hoping for the death penalty
I 💯 percent agree.

I wish the best for your country and will always will be supporter of your country but I have no right to meddle with your political issues and ask for changes while sitting in UK.

I support your country Unconditional doesn't matter who the PM is or the Army officers.
 
I 💯 percent agree.

I wish the best for your country and will always will be supporter of your country but I have no right to meddle with your political issues and ask for changes while sitting in UK.

I support your country Unconditional doesn't matter who the PM is or the Army officers.

As you dont believe you are a PK by any definition, finally we have a promise that you will know stop posting about PK. Aap ki kasam.


@IMMY69
@The Bald Eagle
@Kianig89
Did you read this?🤣🤣🤣
 
It is about pti fans

Its "PTI vs STATE"

The people of pakistan are the "STATE "

Come on if you really cared about the people of pakistan you wouldn't be in UK you be there, out there with the people of pakistan.

Its all about PTI and imran khan, you guys are losing and its hurting your ego and are frustrated.
They are the same peope that gave NS and Munir 7 seats. Yes they are son. That's why free and fair elections are the best way to decide who runs Pak. As some duffer said on saner moment, vote ki izzat do. And then we had Oxford educated cliam democracy is the best revenge until the same democracy gave him a few seats and he became the lundi of the Generals.
 
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Lol people care for pakistan are pti supporters?

Same people that were calling the war with india fake and going to india crying for imrans release.

People that ran away from pakistan, shouldnt be commentating on my country.

Asim munir will deal with pti, atleast now even the army has admitted imran is a traitor.

Hoping for the death penalty

It was only 2 weeks ago that the IMF report( which they had refused to release) told us that 5 trillion( and thats only scratching the surface) had been looted and elite capture was in total control.
Who were these patriotic thieves that love PK so much that they relieve a poor country of trillions a year. According to you the gormless, lying, khooni Liberal 🤣🤣🤣 it was all the fault of the Free health care IK offered 🤣🤣🤣
Jesus wept.

And BTW

180 seats would suggest that the PTI are the only patriotic people as witnessed through votes.
 
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only junk is you and the likes of you who hate the west and still living in their counry while claiming benefits lets no for forget "kya hum ghulam hain" then sucking back to USA to release Imran khan :D
Dude, just cuz you have people in your family who are like that doesn't make everyone online like that. Have some perspective for God sake
 
Dude, just cuz you have people in your family who are like that doesn't make everyone online like that. Have some perspective for God sake
dude stop getting upset for me showing you the mirror and blaming it on other people

how long have you been in the UK and what's your status? where are your parents from?

this is the problem with you PTI idiots will start going personal when you have nothing to say, can't believe I'm chatting to a taxi driving uncle like you who is is also claiming benefits.

just go away mate not giving you attention
 
I understand this is an online forum and of course you'll get people stoking arguments sitting from behind their computer screens or on their phones....

But whether you're a troll or just trying to be provocative, there is a time and place for that... but when it concerns the democracy of a country, deaths of thousands of innocent poor people, the deprivation of basic human rights then you really have to question their motives and a Pakpassion have to audit their own procedures because otherwise this site is used as a platform for scum
 
I understand this is an online forum and of course you'll get people stoking arguments sitting from behind their computer screens or on their phones....

But whether you're a troll or just trying to be provocative, there is a time and place for that... but when it concerns the democracy of a country, deaths of thousands of innocent poor people, the deprivation of basic human rights then you really have to question their motives and a Pakpassion have to audit their own procedures because otherwise this site is used as a platform for scum
I like that there's freedom of speech here but allowing discerning views shouldn't be at the cost of having literal genocidal supporters abuse the platform.
 
The awaam loves PK, they love the army but not criminal oath breaking Generals. You fighting for PK isnt a vote for the Generals. The Generals stood for elections on 8th May and got smashed. Their main candidate couldn't even his own seat and got beat by a cancer sufferer. What an embarrassment you guys are.

Your media cell manager needs to train you better. The duffer and his boss are hated for breaking their oath.

The army is a merit based organisation and a hierarchy people rise to the top on merit and talent and the cream rises to the top its not based on sirfarish and rishwat .

Most of these generals are from poor families asim munirs father was a school teacher there's nothing elite about the army unlike the political parties which are all.based on families caste and landholders or that fake peer shah mahmud qureshi or pinki peerni who is a wadera watoo tribe , no mussali choorah will get in any position in those parties on the other hand Christians have risen in our armed forces, zia ul haq was a top general not of martial caste same with musharraf .
 
I understand this is an online forum and of course you'll get people stoking arguments sitting from behind their computer screens or on their phones....

But whether you're a troll or just trying to be provocative, there is a time and place for that... but when it concerns the democracy of a country, deaths of thousands of innocent poor people, the deprivation of basic human rights then you really have to question their motives and a Pakpassion have to audit their own procedures because otherwise this site is used as a platform for scum

maybe some people are over sensitive and should respect other peoples opinions, just because someone don't align with your narrative no need to cry over it and go personal, not everyone is here with an agenda

I'm not here to defend any party but I know the moment I put up anything anti PTI and Anti Imran Khan it is going to make gown up men emotional and they going to end up writing an essay that it self is satisfaction. and people like Billo Express will even reply to it 5 times so your asking to be trolled with.

lets be honest the death of those thousands of people wouldn't mean anything if they PLMN supporters or Peoples party supporters you have your own agenda so stop pretending to make it out you care for the Pakistani people you only care for the PTI people.

what is more questionable is your anti state while living in another country, make that make sense.
 
I like that there's freedom of speech here but allowing discerning views shouldn't be at the cost of having literal genocidal supporters abuse the platform.
freedom of speech doesn't mean going personal just because you don't agree with someone's view which you did so stop acting like a saint.
 
The army is a merit based organisation and a hierarchy people rise to the top on merit and talent and the cream rises to the top its not based on sirfarish and rishwat .

Most of these generals are from poor families asim munirs father was a school teacher there's nothing elite about the army unlike the political parties which are all.based on families caste and landholders or that fake peer shah mahmud qureshi or pinki peerni who is a wadera watoo tribe , no mussali choorah will get in any position in those parties on the other hand Christians have risen in our armed forces, zia ul haq was a top general not of martial caste same with musharraf .

Are you being serious? The army is a political organization that runs just like a cartel, benefitting only people at the top. The rank and file have no worth or value. I know enough folks in the army to make that assertion. It doesn't matter who's at the top and how they get there but it's never due to merit. Asim Munir's appointment wasn't merit. He was literally hauled back from his retirement to serve Nawaz Sharif's interests. Same was the case for Musharraf. Only brainwashed idiots like you believe the army is some holy cow
 
Are you being serious? The army is a political organization that runs just like a cartel, benefitting only people at the top. The rank and file have no worth or value. I know enough folks in the army to make that assertion. It doesn't matter who's at the top and how they get there but it's never due to merit. Asim Munir's appointment wasn't merit. He was literally hauled back from his retirement to serve Nawaz Sharif's interests. Same was the case for Musharraf. Only brainwashed idiots like you believe the army is some holy cow
But the army has always operated the same way so why wasn’t it a “problem” from 2018 to 2022? Why is it suddenly an issue now? And let’s be honest, if the army reconciled with Imran Khan tomorrow, you’d be praising the very same institution again without hesitation. this is why your called a cult because you love the invidual Imran khan not the country it self.
 
Are you being serious? The army is a political organization that runs just like a cartel, benefitting only people at the top. The rank and file have no worth or value. I know enough folks in the army to make that assertion. It doesn't matter who's at the top and how they get there but it's never due to merit. Asim Munir's appointment wasn't merit. He was literally hauled back from his retirement to serve Nawaz Sharif's interests. Same was the case for Musharraf. Only brainwashed idiots like you believe the army is some holy cow

I've given you example of poor people reaching the top of the military zia ul haq family were landless refugees from india .
One of our first field Marshal was a pathan .

The person who knocked the rafale was a Christian pilot

If the civilians can do something with merit and without corruption go ahead and do it sell products make farms sell milk and foods and oils without price corruption and dangerously adulterating the products . Its not the fault of army if the inherent nature of majority of pakistanis is corruption taking shortcuts and criminal tendencies
 
Merit and Asim Munir/Sharif government are not related to each other at all. They all deserve a separate place in hell.
Are you being serious? The army is a political organization that runs just like a cartel, benefitting only people at the top. The rank and file have no worth or value. I know enough folks in the army to make that assertion. It doesn't matter who's at the top and how they get there but it's never due to merit. Asim Munir's appointment wasn't merit. He was literally hauled back from his retirement to serve Nawaz Sharif's interests. Same was the case for Musharraf. Only brainwashed idiots like you believe the army is some holy cow
 
But the army has always operated the same way so why wasn’t it a “problem” from 2018 to 2022? Why is it suddenly an issue now? And let’s be honest, if the army reconciled with Imran Khan tomorrow, you’d be praising the very same institution again without hesitation. this is why your called a cult because you love the invidual Imran khan not the country it self.

Because IK was given the mandate not PML-N.

It was a problem in 2018.

Mulana DGISPR 😃
 
I've given you example of poor people reaching the top of the military zia ul haq family were landless refugees from india .
One of our first field Marshal was a pathan .

The person who knocked the rafale was a Christian pilot

If the civilians can do something with merit and without corruption go ahead and do it sell products make farms sell milk and foods and oils without price corruption and dangerously adulterating the products . Its not the fault of army if the inherent nature of majority of pakistanis is corruption taking shortcuts and criminal tendencies
Poor people reaching top of the military is not example of merit lol. That's a very bad argument. Just because the civilian institutions have been a failure doesn't mean the institution of army is a better alternative. In fact army's corruption is well known and they collude with corrupt political leaders to further their interests. Pakistan is in a bad state because of their constant manipulation and interference. But this is how establishment of poor 3rd world countries typically operates so no surprises there. There's no merit and justice in the system. Majority people understand this reality but unable to do anything about it. But we still have people like you who overglorify the army despite plunging the country into chaos and extreme poverty
 
@mazkhan btw there are many good politicians and civilians who are selfless and genuinely want to do good for the Country. They are not necessarily supporters of Imran Khan or PTI. The corrupt system never lets these people get noticed or gain any kind of political influence. Imran Khan tried for a long time and in the end had to make a deal to get in power. True patriots like Iman Mazari are put in prisons or shot dead for raising their voice against injustice.
Where is merit here?
 
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You cultists have one viewpoint and a narrow tunnel vision

Case In point being the current dg ispr calling him uneducated and making other allegations against him mocking him online fake images of him as a naked hindu .

Just do a Google check on who is father was as a civilian person and where he studied in the uk
 
Poor people reaching top of the military is not example of merit lol. That's a very bad argument. Just because the civilian institutions have been a failure doesn't mean the institution of army is a better alternative. In fact army's corruption is well known and they collude with corrupt political leaders to further their interests. Pakistan is in a bad state because of their constant manipulation and interference. But this is how establishment of poor 3rd world countries typically operates so no surprises there. There's no merit and justice in the system. Majority people understand this reality but unable to do anything about it. But we still have people like you who overglorify the army despite plunging the country into chaos and extreme poverty

who said the army is corrupt? Imran khan, India and Afghanistan?
 
@mazkhan btw there are many good politicians and civilians who are selfless and genuinely want to do good for the Country. They are not necessarily supporters of Imran Khan or PTI. The corrupt system never lets these people get noticed or gain any kind of political influence. Imran Khan tried for a long time and in the end had to make a deal to get in power. True patriots like Iman Mazari are put in prisons or shot dead for raising their voice against injustice.
Where is merit here?
Iman mazari is a true patriot because she is a PTI supporters anyone not supporting the PTI agenda is corrupt :p
 
Iman mazari is a true patriot because she is a PTI supporters anyone not supporting the PTI agenda is corrupt :p

Anyone supporting the constitution is true patriot of Pakistan according to the laws of Pakistan.

You aren’t.
 
Exactly, he and his party were given the mandate.

Keep going, you’ll get there.
I think you missed the according to PTI supporters part

so if I'm anti Pakistan, anti army, and friends with Afghanistan and India will that make me a patriot ?
 
I think you missed the according to PTI supporters part

so if I'm anti Pakistan, anti army, and friends with Afghanistan and India will that make me a patriot ?

You’re losing it, just as recently DGISPR did during the performative desperate press conference.

You are anti-Pakistani when you don’t support the constitution of Pakistan, the very constitution say you are.

80% of Pakistani are PTI supporters.
 
You’re losing it, just as recently DGISPR did during the performative desperate press conference.

You are anti-Pakistani when you don’t support the constitution of Pakistan, the very constitution say you are.

80% of Pakistani are PTI supporters.

80% of Pakistan are PTI supporters? in which land? Naya Pakistan based in Bradford and Birmingham?
 
The army is a merit based organisation and a hierarchy people rise to the top on merit and talent and the cream rises to the top its not based on sirfarish and rishwat .

Most of these generals are from poor families asim munirs father was a school teacher there's nothing elite about the army unlike the political parties which are all.based on families caste and landholders or that fake peer shah mahmud qureshi or pinki peerni who is a wadera watoo tribe , no mussali choorah will get in any position in those parties on the other hand Christians have risen in our armed forces, zia ul haq was a top general not of martial caste same with musharraf .
Thank you for admitting they are oath breakers that have betrayed the PK constitution.


And God help PK if these idiots that have controlled PK for 70+ years are Merit based. These Merit based guys couldn't create a single institution that works. The establishment is a just a mafia looting with both hands, the Police are mafia looting what's left over. Not forgetting the civil service that has Portuguese passports ready.
So based on those facts what has it actually achieved? PK was split to keep them in power in the West, Balochistan is a no go area and KP is going the same way.

The anger from DGISPR showed the game is up. This Dog has nowhere eise to hide. You cant hide what has been seen.
 
I understand this is an online forum and of course you'll get people stoking arguments sitting from behind their computer screens or on their phones....

But whether you're a troll or just trying to be provocative, there is a time and place for that... but when it concerns the democracy of a country, deaths of thousands of innocent poor people, the deprivation of basic human rights then you really have to question their motives and a Pakpassion have to audit their own procedures because otherwise this site is used as a platform for scum
I have have hinted at media cells a number of times. These goons were defending old ladies getting dragged and beaten up, want IK murdered( i am sure that is illegal in any country) and want PKs to beaten for protesting.
 
Well he did win a 2/3 rd majority. And why does it matter to you as its our country and not YOURS
its not your country because you don't live there

have you disowned your British passport yet? oh yeah you don't have one your still on asylum seekers visa
 
its not your country because you don't live there

have you disowned your British passport yet? oh yeah you don't have one your still on asylum seekers visa


Pakistan permits dual citizenship, and it even allows children born abroad to be registered as Pakistani citizens with dual nationality.
 
its not your country because you don't live there

have you disowned your British passport yet? oh yeah you don't have one your still on asylum seekers visa
You told us thar its not yours. So what gives you the right to ask. You were desperate to jack off @Major and you told us you arent a PK. And as for you stupidity on passports, we are allowed dual nationality. Get educated you gorm
 
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