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Imran Khan: The World Can’t Ignore Kashmir. We Are All in Danger. (Opinion piece for New York Times)

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If the world does nothing to stop the Indian assault on Kashmir and its people, two nuclear-armed states will get ever closer to a direct military confrontation.

By Imran Khan
Mr. Khan is the prime minister of Pakistan.


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — After I was elected prime minister of Pakistan last August, one of my foremost priorities was to work for lasting and just peace in South Asia. India and Pakistan, despite our difficult history, confront similar challenges of poverty, unemployment and climate change, especially the threat of melting glaciers and scarcity of water for hundreds of millions of our citizens.

I wanted to normalize relations with India through trade and by settling the Kashmir dispute, the foremost impediment to the normalization of relations between us.

On July 26, 2018, in my first televised address to Pakistan after winning the elections, I stated we wanted peace with India and if it took one step forward, we would take two steps. After that, a meeting between our two foreign ministers was arranged on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly session in September 2018, but India canceled the meeting. That September I also wrote my first of three letters to Prime Minister Narendra Modi calling for dialogue and peace.

Unfortunately, all my efforts to start a dialogue for peace were rebuffed by India. Initially, we assumed that Mr. Modi’s increasingly hard-line positions and his rhetoric against Pakistan were aimed to whip up a nationalist frenzy among the Indian voters with an eye on the Indian elections in May.

On Feb. 14, a few months before those elections, a young Kashmiri man carried out a suicide attack against Indian troops in Indian-occupied Kashmir. The Indian government promptly blamed Pakistan.

We asked for evidence, but Mr. Modi sent Indian Air Force fighter planes across the border to Pakistan. Our Air Force brought down an Indian plane and captured the pilot. We struck back to signal we could defend ourselves but chose not to strike a target that would cause loss of life. I made a conscious decision to show that Pakistan had no intent of aggravating the conflict between two nuclear-armed states. We returned the captured Indian pilot, with no preconditions.

On May 23, after Mr. Modi’s re-election, I congratulated him and hoped we could work for “peace, progress and prosperity in South Asia.” In June, I sent another letter to Mr. Modi offering dialogue to work toward peace. Again, India chose not to respond. And we found out that while I was making peace overtures, India had been lobbying to get Pakistan placed on the “blacklist” at the intergovernmental Financial Action Task Force, which could lead to severe economic sanctions and push us toward bankruptcy.

Evidently Mr. Modi had mistaken our desire for peace in a nuclear neighborhood as appeasement. We were not simply up against a hostile government. We were up against a “New India,” which is governed by leaders and a party that are the products of the Hindu supremacist mother ship, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, or the R.S.S.

The Indian prime minister and several ministers of his government continue to be members of the R.S.S., whose founding fathers expressed their admiration for Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. Mr. Modi has written with great love and reverence about M.S. Golwalkar, the second supreme leader of the R.S.S., and has referred to Mr. Golwakar as “Pujiniya Shri Guruji (Guru Worthy of Worship).”

Mr. Modi’s guru wrote admiringly about the Final Solution in “We, Our Nationhood Defined,” his 1939 book: “To keep up the purity of the race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic Races — the Jews. National pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for races and cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindustan for us to learn and profit by.”

I had hoped that being elected prime minister might lead Mr. Modi to cast aside his old ways as the chief minister of the Indian state of Gujarat, when he gained global notoriety for the 2002 pogrom against local Muslims on his watch and was denied a visa to travel to the United States under its International Religious Freedom Act — a list of visa denials that included associates of Slobodan Milosevic.

Mr. Modi’s first term as prime minister had been marked by lynching of Muslims, Christians and Dalits by extremist Hindu mobs. In Indian-occupied Kashmir, we have witnessed increased state violence against defiant Kashmiris. Pellet-firing shotguns were introduced and aimed at the eyes of young Kashmiri protesters, blinding hundreds.

On Aug. 5, in its most brazen and egregious move, Mr. Modi’s government altered the status of Indian-occupied Kashmir through the revocation of Article 370 and 35A of the Indian Constitution. The move is illegal under the Constitution of India, but more important, it is a violation of the United Nations Security Council resolutions on Kashmir and the Shimla Agreement between India and Pakistan.

And Mr. Modi’s “New India” chose to do this by imposing a military curfew in Kashmir, imprisoning its population in their homes and cutting off their phone, internet and television connections, rendering them without news of the world or their loved ones. The siege was followed by a purge: Thousands of Kashmiris have been arrested and thrown into prisons across India. A blood bath is feared in Kashmir when the curfew is lifted. Already, Kashmiris coming out in defiance of the curfew are being shot and killed.

If the world does nothing to stop the Indian assault on Kashmir and its people, there will be consequences for the whole world as two nuclear-armed states get ever closer to a direct military confrontation. India’s defense minister has issued a not-so-veiled nuclear threat to Pakistan by saying that the future of India’s “no first use” policy on nuclear weapons will “depend on circumstances.” Similar statements have been made by Indian leaders periodically. Pakistan has long viewed India’s “no first use” claims with skepticism.

With the nuclear shadow hovering over South Asia, we realize that Pakistan and India have to move out of a zero-sum mind-set to begin dialogue on Kashmir, various strategic matters and trade. On Kashmir, the dialogue must include all stakeholders, especially the Kashmiris. We have already prepared multiple options that can be worked on while honoring the right to self-determination the Kashmiris were promised by the Security Council resolutions and India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru.

Through dialogue and negotiations, the stakeholders can arrive at a viable solution to end the decades of suffering of the Kashmiri people and move toward a stable and just peace in the region. But dialogue can start only when India reverses its illegal annexation of Kashmir, ends the curfew and lockdown, and withdraws its troops to the barracks.

It is imperative that the international community think beyond trade and business advantages. World War II happened because of appeasement at Munich. A similar threat looms over the world again, but this time under the nuclear shadow.

Imran Khan is the prime minister of Pakistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/opinion/imran-khan-kashmir-pakistan.html
 
Well said. The article is concise and to the point.

I like the idea of publishing opinion in international newspapers which are read across the world. He wanted the communication tool with international public and this is a good start. In future I would like to see more interviews directly with PM on international news channels on primetime to raise further awareness. He should dedicate a lot of time to this issue and raising awareness until his UN speech in September. I want the rest of Pakistan philanthropists, media personnel, politicians, etc also raise awareness at their level as much as they can.
 
Instead of waging twitter wars and writing articles for newspapers, i.e. attacking India with a paintball gun, perhaps it is time for Imran Khan to take some bold steps.

If we really want to internationalize the plight of Kashmiris, we should declare Azad Kashmir as a sovereign state and vouch for their UN membership.

Furthermore, instead of spending money on mediocre missiles (proudly named after foreign plunderers who destroyed Hindu temples) that would barely trickle into the Indian territory with their pitiful ranges, we should pump money into the sovereign Islamic Republic of Kashmir.

We should help the independent Kashmir become so attractive in terms of education, healthcare, infrastructure, security, employment, law and order etc. that people from J&K attempt to cross the border to become part of the flourishing independent Kashmir, much like what the East Germans did, eventually leading to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Once we are able to achieve this, we will be able to successfully internationalize the plight of the people of J&K and they will also have a stronger base to fight for their independence.

Our current flop methods of of bringing international attention to Kashmir have not and will not work.

Putting the country to a halt every Friday for 30 mins for dhol and bhangra, criticizing on Twitter, phoning leaders before they hang up on you and writing articles will not work. All it does is grab a few headlines in international outlets for a few weeks before they forget about it and move on.

It is time for Pakistan to do something unexpected and concrete with a long lasting impact. The best way is to set an example and start with the independence of Azad Kashmir.
 
Well said. The article is concise and to the point.

I like the idea of publishing opinion in international newspapers which are read across the world. He wanted the communication tool with international public and this is a good start. In future I would like to see more interviews directly with PM on international news channels on primetime to raise further awareness. He should dedicate a lot of time to this issue and raising awareness until his UN speech in September. I want the rest of Pakistan philanthropists, media personnel, politicians, etc also raise awareness at their level as much as they can.

I’m surprised that Kashmir has gotten worldwide attention, even though it’s getting less coverage compared to the Hong Kong protests.

Now we need to think of the long term. Invest in Pakistan now and prioritize education, healthcare and the economy. Constantly crying about India’s atrocities in Kashmir won’t make Kashmir independent.
 
The fact that Imran Khan gets so much attention must be a source of great discomfort for some.

Welcome to the new world. Live with it.
 
I’m surprised that Kashmir has gotten worldwide attention, even though it’s getting less coverage compared to the Hong Kong protests.

Now we need to think of the long term. Invest in Pakistan now and prioritize education, healthcare and the economy. Constantly crying about India’s atrocities in Kashmir won’t make Kashmir independent.

To each their own opinion. For me this current wave is the most this issue has been internationalized. We have had UNSC session dedicated to Kashmir, Indian PM being asked about Kashmir situation whenever he is in front of journalists, international media reporting on atrocities quite frequently and many more such elements. This issue is currently in the eyeline of international public and as PM Imran said the focus should continue till his UN speech. If Imran goes into the UN for his speech and till that day the curfew in Kashmir is not lifted a lot of weightage would be given to Imran's comments in international eye to dismay of Indian diplomats.

As far as Hong Kong is concerned there is a very big difference in there that there communication lines, internet, television, etc is not cut off. So we are able to actually see the protests and hear from protesters in Kashmir however even that liberty has been taken away by Indian government.

I have said this before on some other thread on economy please don't expect miracles from Imran as that is not his strong point. Imran's strengths are honesty, credibility and justice. In his government term Imran would ensure that there is a massive crackdown on corruption and malpractices. That does not mean that economy would boom in these 5 years but I can see our economy reaching its breakeven level and then I can predict economy growth in his next term. Overall, in his 5 year term the economy of Pakistan would not deteriorate but would improve slightly. And because of his crackdown on corruption and malpractices there would be a cultural change and we would yield growth in the next term of government.
 
To each their own opinion. For me this current wave is the most this issue has been internationalized. We have had UNSC session dedicated to Kashmir, Indian PM being asked about Kashmir situation whenever he is in front of journalists, international media reporting on atrocities quite frequently and many more such elements. This issue is currently in the eyeline of international public and as PM Imran said the focus should continue till his UN speech. If Imran goes into the UN for his speech and till that day the curfew in Kashmir is not lifted a lot of weightage would be given to Imran's comments in international eye to dismay of Indian diplomats.

As far as Hong Kong is concerned there is a very big difference in there that there communication lines, internet, television, etc is not cut off. So we are able to actually see the protests and hear from protesters in Kashmir however even that liberty has been taken away by Indian government.

I have said this before on some other thread on economy please don't expect miracles from Imran as that is not his strong point. Imran's strengths are honesty, credibility and justice. In his government term Imran would ensure that there is a massive crackdown on corruption and malpractices. That does not mean that economy would boom in these 5 years but I can see our economy reaching its breakeven level and then I can predict economy growth in his next term. Overall, in his 5 year term the economy of Pakistan would not deteriorate but would improve slightly. And because of his crackdown on corruption and malpractices there would be a cultural change and we would yield growth in the next term of government.

The government has done well in order to internationalize the issue, but what next? Surely we can’t keep on crying like this for much longer. It won’t achieve much more.

I’m not saying that we should forget the Kashmiris, but we have to take a practical approach. Improve our own nation and our people and then can we think of doing something about Kashmir. We need long term thinking imo.

As for the economy, the blame lies with the previous governments so i’m not blaming the PTI for that.
 
Very well written. Its good to have a leader who can speak instead of the ****** holding incompetent fool before him.
 
The government has done well in order to internationalize the issue, but what next? Surely we can’t keep on crying like this for much longer. It won’t achieve much more.

I’m not saying that we should forget the Kashmiris, but we have to take a practical approach. Improve our own nation and our people and then can we think of doing something about Kashmir. We need long term thinking imo.

As for the economy, the blame lies with the previous governments so i’m not blaming the PTI for that.

I see where you are coming from but you need to understand that internationalizing the issue is the only thing Pakistan can do and if India does any misadventure like February then Pakistan will be in a much stronger position to end this issue. The reason I say misadventure from India is because they are following their ideology, and their ideology includes Azad Kashmir. Maybe not today or tomorrow or years from now but India will surely plan to create such as situation whereby they can claim a stake in Azad Kashmir simply because of the ideology which also includes that mandir to be created, etc.

In today's world I feel we are lucky for couple of reasons; one being India doing a harm to themselves by their government antics; and second being we have got such a leader who has a large following across the globe and can deliver an effective speech. Imran is such a welcome sight who can hold his own amongst the most powerful men of the world and raise the issues quite frankly and openly. Therefore, this is our best chance in ages to internationalize this issue as we have got the right person at helm this time.
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.

ta sanga ye ...?
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.

Please type something new, this is getting old and boring.

May Allah help the muslims all over the World.
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.

You are drawing incorrect parallels in here. Be it Uyghurs, Syria, Yemen or Rohingya (all muslims btw), there is a reason why none of these drive the foreign office narrative from Pakistan State while Kashmir does have an official stance of Pakistan State.

The reason is dated back to 1947 when partition happened and the way it happened. Then came the resolution from UN which stated that a plebiscite should be held so people of Kashmir can democratically decide who they want to side with and both Pakistan and India agreed under UN supervision. If that plebiscite would have happened and people of Kashmir decided to side with India then Pakistan today would not have made any fuss about any given situation in Indian Kashmir. However, that plebiscite never happened this situation simply worsened.

To add to above paragraph, Pakistan also has an official stance because its the governing authority in Azad Kashmir. Therefore, if a citizen of Azad Kashmir makes any official complaint that they aren't able to reach out to their loved ones in IoK or their relatives have been shot and killed in IoK then Pakistan State has to represent the plight of these people.

There is a level of hypocrisy involved in here whereby they refuse to acknowledge the crisis in other muslim situations like Uyghurs but you need to understand this hypocrisy is only till personal state of individuals and not applicable to the state of Pakistan, so you cannot say that hypocrisy is done by Pakistan Government.
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.

Poor logic. Pakistan cares for Kashmir due to links and it being disputed territory. No comparison with China Muslims. That is not our case to take
 
You are drawing incorrect parallels in here. Be it Uyghurs, Syria, Yemen or Rohingya (all muslims btw), there is a reason why none of these drive the foreign office narrative from Pakistan State while Kashmir does have an official stance of Pakistan State.

The reason is dated back to 1947 when partition happened and the way it happened. Then came the resolution from UN which stated that a plebiscite should be held so people of Kashmir can democratically decide who they want to side with and both Pakistan and India agreed under UN supervision. If that plebiscite would have happened and people of Kashmir decided to side with India then Pakistan today would not have made any fuss about any given situation in Indian Kashmir. However, that plebiscite never happened this situation simply worsened.

To add to above paragraph, Pakistan also has an official stance because its the governing authority in Azad Kashmir. Therefore, if a citizen of Azad Kashmir makes any official complaint that they aren't able to reach out to their loved ones in IoK or their relatives have been shot and killed in IoK then Pakistan State has to represent the plight of these people.

There is a level of hypocrisy involved in here whereby they refuse to acknowledge the crisis in other muslim situations like Uyghurs but you need to understand this hypocrisy is only till personal state of individuals and not applicable to the state of Pakistan, so you cannot say that hypocrisy is done by Pakistan Government.

Very well explained. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as well as most Indian posters know this but they chose to ignore this because it leaves them with egg on their face.
 
Let’s be honest. The Kashmir issue has been internationalised even if nothing is going to come off it.

But Nawaz sharif or others wouldn’t have gotten platforms like NY Times which IK has
 
You are drawing incorrect parallels in here. Be it Uyghurs, Syria, Yemen or Rohingya (all muslims btw), there is a reason why none of these drive the foreign office narrative from Pakistan State while Kashmir does have an official stance of Pakistan State.

The reason is dated back to 1947 when partition happened and the way it happened. Then came the resolution from UN which stated that a plebiscite should be held so people of Kashmir can democratically decide who they want to side with and both Pakistan and India agreed under UN supervision. If that plebiscite would have happened and people of Kashmir decided to side with India then Pakistan today would not have made any fuss about any given situation in Indian Kashmir. However, that plebiscite never happened this situation simply worsened.

To add to above paragraph, Pakistan also has an official stance because its the governing authority in Azad Kashmir. Therefore, if a citizen of Azad Kashmir makes any official complaint that they aren't able to reach out to their loved ones in IoK or their relatives have been shot and killed in IoK then Pakistan State has to represent the plight of these people.

There is a level of hypocrisy involved in here whereby they refuse to acknowledge the crisis in other muslim situations like Uyghurs but you need to understand this hypocrisy is only till personal state of individuals and not applicable to the state of Pakistan, so you cannot say that hypocrisy is done by Pakistan Government.

Very good post. Sadly you're replying to Adnan Sami who only posts long garbage without addressing anything.
 
Let’s be honest. The Kashmir issue has been internationalised even if nothing is going to come off it.

But Nawaz sharif or others wouldn’t have gotten platforms like NY Times which IK has

True, all Nawaz Sharif would do is to read out a statement from a p*rchi and criticize India half-heartedly.
 
You are drawing incorrect parallels in here. Be it Uyghurs, Syria, Yemen or Rohingya (all muslims btw), there is a reason why none of these drive the foreign office narrative from Pakistan State while Kashmir does have an official stance of Pakistan State.

The reason is dated back to 1947 when partition happened and the way it happened. Then came the resolution from UN which stated that a plebiscite should be held so people of Kashmir can democratically decide who they want to side with and both Pakistan and India agreed under UN supervision. If that plebiscite would have happened and people of Kashmir decided to side with India then Pakistan today would not have made any fuss about any given situation in Indian Kashmir. However, that plebiscite never happened this situation simply worsened.

To add to above paragraph, Pakistan also has an official stance because its the governing authority in Azad Kashmir. Therefore, if a citizen of Azad Kashmir makes any official complaint that they aren't able to reach out to their loved ones in IoK or their relatives have been shot and killed in IoK then Pakistan State has to represent the plight of these people.

There is a level of hypocrisy involved in here whereby they refuse to acknowledge the crisis in other muslim situations like Uyghurs but you need to understand this hypocrisy is only till personal state of individuals and not applicable to the state of Pakistan, so you cannot say that hypocrisy is done by Pakistan Government.

Obviously the reasons why Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause is self-explanatory. However, that is not the point.

The point is that the humanitarian and Muslim narrative that the government of Pakistan frequently peddles is littered with hypocrisy. If you are a true humanitarian and a supporter of the Muslim cause, you will not ignore the plight of Muslims (regardless of their ethnicity) for your economic benefits.

It is very clear that Pakistan is reluctant to criticize China’s treatment of Ughyr Muslims because it cannot risk to strain its relationship with the Chinese state. Hence, the stance of the Pakistan government that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue has no credibility whatsoever.

Kashmir is very clearly a political issue, and as long as the Pakistani state and the Pakistani public acknowledge that it is political and not humanitarian in nature, no one would criticize them for ignoring the Ughyr cause.
 
Obviously the reasons why Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause is self-explanatory. However, that is not the point.

The point is that the humanitarian and Muslim narrative that the government of Pakistan frequently peddles is littered with hypocrisy. If you are a true humanitarian and a supporter of the Muslim cause, you will not ignore the plight of Muslims (regardless of their ethnicity) for your economic benefits.

It is very clear that Pakistan is reluctant to criticize China’s treatment of Ughyr Muslims because it cannot risk to strain its relationship with the Chinese state. Hence, the stance of the Pakistan government that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue has no credibility whatsoever.

Kashmir is very clearly a political issue, and as long as the Pakistani state and the Pakistani public acknowledge that it is political and not humanitarian in nature, no one would criticize them for ignoring the Ughyr cause.

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]
 
I see where you are coming from but you need to understand that internationalizing the issue is the only thing Pakistan can do and if India does any misadventure like February then Pakistan will be in a much stronger position to end this issue. The reason I say misadventure from India is because they are following their ideology, and their ideology includes Azad Kashmir. Maybe not today or tomorrow or years from now but India will surely plan to create such as situation whereby they can claim a stake in Azad Kashmir simply because of the ideology which also includes that mandir to be created, etc.

In today's world I feel we are lucky for couple of reasons; one being India doing a harm to themselves by their government antics; and second being we have got such a leader who has a large following across the globe and can deliver an effective speech. Imran is such a welcome sight who can hold his own amongst the most powerful men of the world and raise the issues quite frankly and openly. Therefore, this is our best chance in ages to internationalize this issue as we have got the right person at helm this time.

You make a valid point.

I read an article a year ago that ISI secretly wanted the BJP in power because the BJP had managed to do what ISI couldn't.
Internationally, India still has a better image than Pakistan but who knows how things will look like in a few years when the BJP continues to further polarize the country and while hate crimes against minorities becomes more common due to growing hatred.
 
Obviously the reasons why Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause is self-explanatory. However, that is not the point.

The point is that the humanitarian and Muslim narrative that the government of Pakistan frequently peddles is littered with hypocrisy. If you are a true humanitarian and a supporter of the Muslim cause, you will not ignore the plight of Muslims (regardless of their ethnicity) for your economic benefits.

It is very clear that Pakistan is reluctant to criticize China’s treatment of Ughyr Muslims because it cannot risk to strain its relationship with the Chinese state. Hence, the stance of the Pakistan government that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue has no credibility whatsoever.

Kashmir is very clearly a political issue, and as long as the Pakistani state and the Pakistani public acknowledge that it is political and not humanitarian in nature, no one would criticize them for ignoring the Ughyr cause.

I don't quite agree with your point here. Kashmir is definitely a political issue and the legislative dealings around revocation of article 370 and 35A will be dealt in legal manner and Pakistan State would ask UN to seek answers as to why their laws were not abide by Indian government.

The humanitarian situation is not created by Pakistan it is created by India. And ofcourse Pakistan would use this situation to strengthen its legal stance as said above.

So let me summarise this for you. It was a political issue in which India has added in human rights violations which would be used by Pakistan to strength their political stance. I hope you get the link between the two now.

The situation would have been different if this issue was politically settled i.e. by holding a plebiscite. If that would have happened and Kashmir would have sided by India then I think India would not have broken humanitarian laws on those people and this situation would not have arisen. But here we are now and we have to deal with the current reality and not dwell in past.
 
All it will take is one incidence in Kashmir and that will trigger a nuclear war like the world has never seen. The world can't ignore Kashmir...
 
It has been a failure on India’s part to not highlight the hypocrisy of Imran and Pakistan when it comes to the atrocities of China against the Ughyr muslims.

The Indian media needs to internationalize how we have turned a blind eye towards China because of economic and political interests but play the Muslim and humanity card in Kashmir.

Apparently, when it comes to economic benefits, human rights violations and oppression of Muslims are irrelevant.

The Indian media needs to pick up on it and prominent politicians should wage a Twitter war so that our hypocrisy is exposed in the international media.

The silent game that they have played in response to Imran’s paintball attacks (Tweets, articles) has done well to infuriate him as well as the people of Pakistan, but they will have to change their strategy at some point.

India won't. It's their policy not to intervene in "internal matters" of other countries. It's easy to do but it will antagonize the Chinese unnecessarily.
 
India won't. It's their policy not to intervene in "internal matters" of other countries. It's easy to do but it will antagonize the Chinese unnecessarily.

Hidutva warrior you have a very angelic view of mother India. Do tell what was Kulbhushan doing in Pakistan, surely he wasn't on lion safari or game hunting.
 
Hidutva warrior you have a very angelic view of mother India. Do tell what was Kulbhushan doing in Pakistan, surely he wasn't on lion safari or game hunting.

He is a spy. Looks like a bad one considering he got caught. There are a bunch of RAW, Mossad, CIA agents in Pakistan. There's ISI in India too. That's what they do. It's their job. There's nothing angelic about it. By not meddling into others internal issues, India is protecting it's interests. It won't give others a chance to meddle in it's matters as well.
 
Hidutva warrior you have a very angelic view of mother India. Do tell what was Kulbhushan doing in Pakistan, surely he wasn't on lion safari or game hunting.

Man this guy has nothing else to do. Sick of coming here and seeing this fraud neutrals name on every 'last reply' in TP. How farigh does that someone have to be?
 
In this social media age, opinion pieces are a dime a dozen. You know what they say about opinions...

Writing opinion pieces in the "failing" NY times will do nothing to move the needle on the ground. The fascist hindutva RSS Nazi modi is not going to change his mind because of this.
 
In this social media age, opinion pieces are a dime a dozen. You know what they say about opinions...

Writing opinion pieces in the "failing" NY times will do nothing to move the needle on the ground. The fascist hindutva RSS Nazi modi is not going to change his mind because of this.

I don't think that was the purpose of this article.
 
In this social media age, opinion pieces are a dime a dozen. You know what they say about opinions...

Writing opinion pieces in the "failing" NY times will do nothing to move the needle on the ground. The fascist hindutva RSS Nazi modi is not going to change his mind because of this.

"first they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they fight you and then you win" freedom movements don't happen overnight India's founding fathers will tell you that pretty well.
 
He is a spy. Looks like a bad one considering he got caught. There are a bunch of RAW, Mossad, CIA agents in Pakistan. There's ISI in India too. That's what they do. It's their job. There's nothing angelic about it. By not meddling into others internal issues, India is protecting it's interests. It won't give others a chance to meddle in it's matters as well.

I think you should stick to debating your fellow Indians only they would believe this garbage.
 
I don't think that was the purpose of this article.

But that is the only thing that matters. The powers that be have already clearly indiacted which side of this issue they stand on. If not Imran, as a head of state would not be writing opinion pieces. He would have already secured the backing of world leaders. He cannot even get china to openly back him cuz chinese companies have vested interests in the Indian market. Oppo, vivo, tencent, Alibaba and Huawei are all banking on the Indian consumer.
 
But that is the only thing that matters. The powers that be have already clearly indiacted which side of this issue they stand on. If not Imran, as a head of state would not be writing opinion pieces. He would have already secured the backing of world leaders. He cannot even get china to openly back him cuz chinese companies have vested interests in the Indian market. Oppo, vivo, tencent, Alibaba and Huawei are all banking on the Indian consumer.

again, you are missing the point.
 
again, you are missing the point.

Just you saying I am missing the point is just another opinion just like Imran. Nobody cares about an opinion piece in the NY times two days later. There is one everyday. You can have the entire world and the media on your side, but it still doesn't and is not going to change the fact that indians have for the most part sided with their PM and are moving on with the new realities of Kashmir. When no country in the world has dared to interfere in HK when many have financial stake there, nobody cares about Kashmir enough to interfere

End of the day money talks
 
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Just you saying I am missing the point is just another opinion just like Imran. Nobody cares about an opinion piece in the NY times two days later. There is one everyday. You can have the entire world and the media on your side, but it still doesn't and is not going to change the fact that indians have for the most part sided with their PM and are moving on with the new realities of Kashmir. When no country in the world has dared to interfere in HK when many have financial stake there, nobody cares about Kashmir enough to interfere

End of the day money talks

So you've gone from "opinions", anyone's opinions, which means it's not factual to people not caring for an opinion, and finally that people only care about money and with that giving an example of Hong Kong oh and Indians not giving a dam and that it wouldn't change anything anyway.

Ok so why comment on this thread in the first place?
 
I think you should stick to debating your fellow Indians only they would believe this garbage.

Only if you understand the difference between clandestine operations and diplomatic policy you will understand my point. Don't need to be an Indian
 
Just you saying I am missing the point is just another opinion just like Imran. Nobody cares about an opinion piece in the NY times two days later. There is one everyday. You can have the entire world and the media on your side, but it still doesn't and is not going to change the fact that indians have for the most part sided with their PM and are moving on with the new realities of Kashmir. When no country in the world has dared to interfere in HK when many have financial stake there, nobody cares about Kashmir enough to interfere

End of the day money talks

As poster said above you are missing the point. And as you mentioned everyone to their opinion, the bolded part is your opinion just like any other opinion.
 
As poster said above you are missing the point. And as you mentioned everyone to their opinion, the bolded part is your opinion just like any other opinion.

Don't take my opinion on it but there are posts on this forum by pakistanis that gulf states, France and the US have acted the way they have because of financial interests. Heck even Imran has said the same citing it as the reason he has failed to get world leaders to see his view point.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Pakistani nation has also let the world know about the Nazi-style takeover of India by the RSS-BJP's Hindu Supremacist ideology & the danger it poses not only to the region but the world.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1167427498210209792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As ambassador for the people of Kashmir I am going to expose the oppression & gross human rights violations of the fascist Modi regime against the brave Kashmiri people. The western world doesn’t understand the RSS agenda inspired by Nazi Germany. <a href="https://t.co/SZ8F6t5CVL">https://t.co/SZ8F6t5CVL</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1167440832754065408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
This is where the Modi government has missed out and is being exacerbated post Balakot. It has systematically repulsed darbari journalists like Barkha and Rajdeep even when both have extended olive branches. The current lot of right wing journalists cover the Indian markets well but simply have no global leverage. The only ones who get to write articles in international journals are people like Barkha, Mishra and Arundhati. It will make sense for them to have atleast 1 on it’s good payroll, we can’t leave all our fights on the largesse of Christine fair
 
This is where the Modi government has missed out and is being exacerbated post Balakot. It has systematically repulsed darbari journalists like Barkha and Rajdeep even when both have extended olive branches. The current lot of right wing journalists cover the Indian markets well but simply have no global leverage. The only ones who get to write articles in international journals are people like Barkha, Mishra and Arundhati. It will make sense for them to have atleast 1 on it’s good payroll, we can’t leave all our fights on the largesse of Christine fair

I guess you have not been following Barkha's YouTube channel. She has been reporting quite well from Kashmir. She has given credit to Modi for his actions in Kashmir. The primary thing she is challenging is it's time to remove the constraints on mobile phone communication. She has stated she understands the reason for the clamp down

Please don't equate arundhati with barkha. The former is a nut job
 
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Don't take my opinion on it but there are posts on this forum by pakistanis that gulf states, France and the US have acted the way they have because of financial interests. Heck even Imran has said the same citing it as the reason he has failed to get world leaders to see his view point.

Are you literally suggesting that Indian in its "internal" matter carry out human rights violations and France, US, etc will not bat an eye because of "money"?
 
Interesting to see that Imran mentioned that only one IAF plan was shot down. I guess this should settle the debate regarding how many IAF planes were shot down.
Pakistan can't do much other than shouting K word on every platform they get part to be. At best they can get sympathies of nations. It won't result in any kind of monetary loss to India.
 
Interesting to see that Imran mentioned that only one IAF plan was shot down. I guess this should settle the debate regarding how many IAF planes were shot down.
Pakistan can't do much other than shouting K word on every platform they get part to be. At best they can get sympathies of nations. It won't result in any kind of monetary loss to India.

Well the fact is IAF plane(s) were shot down i.e. a fact.

Yes, the only platform Pakistan has at the moment is to raise awareness on Kashmir's situation and this awareness is really important as it could help international community to pressurise India to lift curfew on humanitarian grounds and once curfew is lifted then reasons will automatically start flowing which would make Pakistan's representation of Kashmir case stronger.
 
Well the fact is IAF plane(s) were shot down i.e. a fact.

Yes, the only platform Pakistan has at the moment is to raise awareness on Kashmir's situation and this awareness is really important as it could help international community to pressurise India to lift curfew on humanitarian grounds and once curfew is lifted then reasons will automatically start flowing which would make Pakistan's representation of Kashmir case stronger.

How? Pakistan hasn't made that case in decades. There was no curfew in Kashmir till four weeks ago. Why didn't you make your case in 40 years?
 
I guess you have not been following Barkha's YouTube channel. She has been reporting quite well from Kashmir. She has given credit to Modi for his actions in Kashmir. The primary thing she is challenging is it's time to remove the constraints on mobile phone communication. She has stated she understands the reason for the clamp down

Please don't equate arundhati with barkha. The former is a nut job

Barkha has actually toned down after the Harvest TV fiasco. She is out of the darbar and not with the establishment no wonder she is more balanced now. It’s time she is leveraged for getting the Indian perspective out.
 
How? Pakistan hasn't made that case in decades. There was no curfew in Kashmir till four weeks ago. Why didn't you make your case in 40 years?

By how, I guess you mean how would Pakistan raise awareness that would lead to lifting of curfew. The answer is simple let the world know the current Kashmir situation.

I don't quite get your point about making a case in last 40 years, what you suggesting here? Till last 40 years Kashmir was not annexed in Indian Parliament into their border and was recognised in Indian Parliament as a disputed territory which is consistent with UN's resolution. In the last 4 weeks, Indian Parliament has said they are annexing Kashmir to India and dismissed the UN's resolution while doing so. So Pakistan is simply asking UN diplomatically (being the third party to this binding agreement) that this step from India is unilateral and asking for ramifications of this act. Let's see how diplomatically and legislatively this situation would develop from here.

On other hand, in the last 4 weeks the blackout, curfew, international media reports on violation and other cowardly acts happening in and about Kashmir has been used by Pakistan State to make their above mentioned case stronger.
 
By how, I guess you mean how would Pakistan raise awareness that would lead to lifting of curfew. The answer is simple let the world know the current Kashmir situation.

I don't quite get your point about making a case in last 40 years, what you suggesting here? Till last 40 years Kashmir was not annexed in Indian Parliament into their border and was recognised in Indian Parliament as a disputed territory which is consistent with UN's resolution. In the last 4 weeks, Indian Parliament has said they are annexing Kashmir to India and dismissed the UN's resolution while doing so. So Pakistan is simply asking UN diplomatically (being the third party to this binding agreement) that this step from India is unilateral and asking for ramifications of this act. Let's see how diplomatically and legislatively this situation would develop from here.

On other hand, in the last 4 weeks the blackout, curfew, international media reports on violation and other cowardly acts happening in and about Kashmir has been used by Pakistan State to make their above mentioned case stronger.

Kashmir was always considered integral part of India. In indian parliament they always mentioned it as integral part of India.
India just removed the temporary provision from the state and made it equal with rest of states in India.

Pakistan can keep shouting K word from the rooftops but it won't matter.

The world powers only try to control meek and weak nations when comes to any human rights violation.

China got away with Tibet, uighur, hongkong, tianamen square etc.
Isreal with Palestine.
Russia with chechnia etc.

Nothing will happen. Keep cribbing as it will only add to entertainment.
 
Kashmir was always considered integral part of India. In indian parliament they always mentioned it as integral part of India.
India just removed the temporary provision from the state and made it equal with rest of states in India.

Pakistan can keep shouting K word from the rooftops but it won't matter.

The world powers only try to control meek and weak nations when comes to any human rights violation.

China got away with Tibet, uighur, hongkong, tianamen square etc.
Isreal with Palestine.
Russia with chechnia etc.

Nothing will happen. Keep cribbing as it will only add to entertainment.

Feel free to be entertained because Pakistan will continue to raise awareness.

Also a lot of opinions are being flaunted in and across other threads. In your post and precisely in your opinion India is considered a super power to which world power cannot question. Your examples above are somewhat true but in my opinion India is not in that league yet.
 
Kashmir was always considered integral part of India. In indian parliament they always mentioned it as integral part of India.
India just removed the temporary provision from the state and made it equal with rest of states in India.

Pakistan can keep shouting K word from the rooftops but it won't matter.

The world powers only try to control meek and weak nations when comes to any human rights violation.

China got away with Tibet, uighur, hongkong, tianamen square etc.
Isreal with Palestine.
Russia with chechnia etc.

Nothing will happen. Keep cribbing as it will only add to entertainment.

Read history. Most Kashmiri Muslims supported the Muslim Conference which was an ally of the Muslim League during the partition. There was a huge protest in Poonch after Hari Singh refuses to accede J&K to Pakistan which led to the invasion of Kashmir by Pashtun tribesmen. If it wasn’t for Sheikh Abdullah and Hari Singh, this mess would’ve been avoided.
 
By how, I guess you mean how would Pakistan raise awareness that would lead to lifting of curfew. The answer is simple let the world know the current Kashmir situation. .

No, that's not what I meant. You said once curfew is lifted awareness will flow and make Pakistan case stronger. But there was no curfew for 40 years and Pakistan could never make it's case stronger. Instead your country was resorting to stunts like kargil and extremism. If you had a case to make why haven't you made it in 40 years and were waiting for a 4 week curfew to use it as an excuse
 
Read history. Most Kashmiri Muslims supported the Muslim Conference which was an ally of the Muslim League during the partition. There was a huge protest in Poonch after Hari Singh refuses to accede J&K to Pakistan which led to the invasion of Kashmir by Pashtun tribesmen. If it wasn’t for Sheikh Abdullah and Hari Singh, this mess would’ve been avoided.

The issue is legality. There are jurisdiction in different position. Hari Singh signed the accession instrument since he was the only person who could sign the instrument.

While the revolt was illegal, the accession was legal according to the terms set by the accession instruments.
 
No, that's not what I meant. You said once curfew is lifted awareness will flow and make Pakistan case stronger. But there was no curfew for 40 years and Pakistan could never make it's case stronger. Instead your country was resorting to stunts like kargil and extremism. If you had a case to make why haven't you made it in 40 years and were waiting for a 4 week curfew to use it as an excuse

Ok. Pakistan's case will become stronger not because of Pakistan's efforts or struggles but because of India's failure on diplomatic front. Never, in recent memory I had thought Pakistan had a stronger case on Kashmir than today the reason is simple India completely lost the plot and in the process helped Pakistan internationalize this issue.

By now almost all international publications have written not only a piece or two by frequent pieces on this blackout and Kashmir issue. Before 4 weeks Indian PM did not had to stand in front of international journalists and answer questions on Kashmir. Human rights violations teams have written a negative report on Indian State's conduct in Kashmir.

All of the above means that all eyes will be on Kashmir when the curfew is lifted. The protests would be the captured and awareness would spread across the world. If such protests garner international attention then obviously it would back Pakistan's claims of abuses in that part of world.

I would repeat this again, this all happened due to Modi's proud RSS analogy and 4 weeks before Pakistan never had a chance of beating India on Kashmir issue diplomatically but now although a small chance but a chance does exist and we should thank Modi for making it diplomatically competitive.
 
This is all just your opinion. No world leaders have openly criticized Indian actions in Kashmir. If anything the biggest failure for Pakistan in Kashmir has occured under Imran's watch and he is wagging the dog desparately to try to change the narrative
 
This is where the Modi government has missed out and is being exacerbated post Balakot. It has systematically repulsed darbari journalists like Barkha and Rajdeep even when both have extended olive branches. The current lot of right wing journalists cover the Indian markets well but simply have no global leverage. <b>The only ones who get to write articles in international journals are people like Barkha, Mishra and Arundhati. </b>It will make sense for them to have atleast 1 on it’s good payroll, we can’t leave all our fights on the largesse of Christine fair

The reason these journalists write for the Western liberal western mainstream media is that that this media hates right-wing leaders, especially if they are successful.

If India had a liberal leader who mouthed liberal platitudes on a regular basis while the economy was in the dumps, you can bet NYT, WaPo, Guardian etc. would be publishing laudatory articles.

This media hates Putin with a passion as he has stabilized Russia and tripled its per cap GDP.

Hate from the liberal media is the price of success, not need to overthink this.
 
This is all just your opinion. No world leaders have openly criticized Indian actions in Kashmir. If anything the biggest failure for Pakistan in Kashmir has occured under Imran's watch and he is wagging the dog desparately to try to change the narrative

Well its all about opinions isn't it. You have yours, I have mine and Imran / Modi has theirs. Let's see how this pans out but opinion aside the awareness of Kashmir issue in international community is Modi driven and not Imran.
 
The reason these journalists write for the Western liberal western mainstream media is that that this media hates right-wing leaders, especially if they are successful.

If India had a liberal leader who mouthed liberal platitudes on a regular basis while the economy was in the dumps, you can bet NYT, WaPo, Guardian etc. would be publishing laudatory articles.

This media hates Putin with a passion as he has stabilized Russia and tripled its per cap GDP.

Hate from the liberal media is the price of success, not need to overthink this.

It’s also the contacts these guys have built over the years with international exposure. Barkha Dutt is more well liked outside India than within. Credit where it’s due. Time to leverage these journalists where their only grouse is less access to the government. Courting a Barkha now will not harm the government much.
 
Interesting, Indian are trying to figure out how to stop journalist speaking the truth about Kashmir.
 
Well written IK. Precise and to the point, each and every word. Expectedly, it has ruffled some feathers. Haters gonna hate, as they say.

In this day and age, no country can silent voice of a whole nation. India and its neo-racist mentality is nothing new. It shall always be beaten. Indian Occupied Kashmiris will never accept the military presence in their streets.

The freedom movement of Kashmiri people have never been this strong. Indian military really thought that Kashmiris will quiver in front of them? :facepalm:

The Muslim Killer Modi is already panicking.

War is not the solution and it will only bring the never seen before ultimate destruction to that region.

Don't know about the rest of world, but Pakistan and its brave people will always support Kashmir. Fact.
 
Well its all about opinions isn't it. You have yours, I have mine and Imran / Modi has theirs. Let's see how this pans out but opinion aside the awareness of Kashmir issue in international community is Modi driven and not Imran.

Again trying to pass off opinion as fact. There is no such concensus. If you look at the leaders around the world they all seem to be quite friendly toward Modi and India in general. Sure you have liberal media like my times. But they are irrelevant even in mainstream America now

You conveniently.avoided why you have not done anything to move the Kashmir issue forward legally and on the world stage for forty years. Why wait for four week curfew?
 
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It’s also the contacts these guys have built over the years with international exposure. Barkha Dutt is more well liked outside India than within. Credit where it’s due. Time to leverage these journalists where their only grouse is less access to the government. Courting a Barkha now will not harm the government much.

But these journalists have been able to build up their contacts as the liberal Western media likes what they have to say.

Someone like Arundhati Roy would have spent her life in obscurity if she had not won the Booker Prize. She continues to remain in the limelight because Guardian etc. likes whatever she peddles.
 
Yea, lets label the Journalist because the Journalist spoke about crimes and try to discredit them media because they showed the truth.

This is getting entertaining.
 
Again trying to pass off opinion as fact. There is no such concensus. If you look at the leaders around the world they all seem to be quite friendly toward Modi and India in general. Sure you have liberal media like my times. But they are irrelevant even in mainstream America now

You conveniently.avoided why you have not done anything to move the Kashmir issue forward legally and on the world stage for forty years. Why wait for four week curfew?

Oh boy, you for real? Let me break it down it in small bites so its easier to swallow.

Legally? There was no case legally until 4 weeks ago. So not entirely sure what your point is from legal standpoint.
 
But these journalists have been able to build up their contacts as the liberal Western media likes what they have to say.

Someone like Arundhati Roy would have spent her life in obscurity if she had not won the Booker Prize. She continues to remain in the limelight because Guardian etc. likes whatever she peddles.

Arundhati genuinely hates the current establishment, Barkha is not the same. She is a power broker and someone who benefitted with the past dispensation. Look at her current tweets or videos post Harvest they are vastly pro government.
 
Oh boy, you for real? Let me break it down it in small bites so its easier to swallow.

Legally? There was no case legally until 4 weeks ago. So not entirely sure what your point is from legal standpoint.

Let's not get personal. I am not challenging your intelligence. All I asked is you tell me why how exactly after the curfew is lifted that you think awareness is going to "flow" as compared to the last forty years when there was no curfew and the Kashmir issue has been a much bigger flashpoint. Remember kargil?
 
Let's not get personal. I am not challenging your intelligence. All I asked is you tell me why how exactly after the curfew is lifted that you think awareness is going to "flow" as compared to the last forty years when there was no curfew and the Kashmir issue has been a much bigger flashpoint. Remember kargil?

I'm not getting personal mate, I'm not the one looking to integrate.

On your question I have clearly pointed out that how the series of events in the past 4 weeks have led to all international eyes being on Kashmir. Never previously there were so many international press releases on Kashmir (mainly negative oppressing news). Therefore, once curfew is lifted and in that moment if there are protests which goes violent resulting in clashes then its common sense that it would paint India in a negative light. Unless in your opinion once curfew is lifted life in Kashmir would be back to normal and there would be no protests from Kashmiris.
 
There will be protests from islamists. To be expected. But violence and loss of life has been part of the Kashmir story for forty years. It didn't start because of Modi's actions
 
There will be protests from islamists. To be expected. But violence and loss of life has been part of the Kashmir story for forty years. It didn't start because of Modi's actions

It will get internationalized because of Modi's actions.
 
Obviously the reasons why Pakistan supports the Kashmir cause is self-explanatory. However, that is not the point.

The point is that the humanitarian and Muslim narrative that the government of Pakistan frequently peddles is littered with hypocrisy. If you are a true humanitarian and a supporter of the Muslim cause, you will not ignore the plight of Muslims (regardless of their ethnicity) for your economic benefits.

It is very clear that Pakistan is reluctant to criticize China’s treatment of Ughyr Muslims because it cannot risk to strain its relationship with the Chinese state. Hence, the stance of the Pakistan government that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue has no credibility whatsoever.

Kashmir is very clearly a political issue, and as long as the Pakistani state and the Pakistani public acknowledge that it is political and not humanitarian in nature, no one would criticize them for ignoring the Ughyr cause.

it is not the job of pakistan to protect the global rights of muslims.
it is the job of the khalifa. Pakistan is only one small state, that can at best, stand up to india and highlight the kashmir issue.

but dont worry. should the time come and india is invaded and destroyed by a pakistani-chinese coalition force, we can then resettle the rohingya and the uigurs in greater pakistan.
 
Instead of waging twitter wars and writing articles for newspapers, i.e. attacking India with a paintball gun, perhaps it is time for Imran Khan to take some bold steps.

If we really want to internationalize the plight of Kashmiris, we should declare Azad Kashmir as a sovereign state and vouch for their UN membership.

Furthermore, instead of spending money on mediocre missiles (proudly named after foreign plunderers who destroyed Hindu temples) that would barely trickle into the Indian territory with their pitiful ranges, we should pump money into the sovereign Islamic Republic of Kashmir.

We should help the independent Kashmir become so attractive in terms of education, healthcare, infrastructure, security, employment, law and order etc. that people from J&K attempt to cross the border to become part of the flourishing independent Kashmir, much like what the East Germans did, eventually leading to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Once we are able to achieve this, we will be able to successfully internationalize the plight of the people of J&K and they will also have a stronger base to fight for their independence.

Our current flop methods of of bringing international attention to Kashmir have not and will not work.

Putting the country to a halt every Friday for 30 mins for dhol and bhangra, criticizing on Twitter, phoning leaders before they hang up on you and writing articles will not work. All it does is grab a few headlines in international outlets for a few weeks before they forget about it and move on.

It is time for Pakistan to do something unexpected and concrete with a long lasting impact. The best way is to set an example and start with the independence of Azad Kashmir.

Independent Kashmir never existed and it is now officially dead.

My friend is from Srinagar. He’s currently in mainland India and just come back from Srinagar 1-2 weeks ago.

Feedback:-

- it’s a straight Pakistan v India fight
- large majority are pro Pakistan union
- Imran Khan popularity has increased.

It’s now or never for Kashmiris. The nationalists there need to unite with Pakistan.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reports in Indian and international media on Modi Govt's ethnic cleansing of Muslims should send alarm bells ringing across the world that the illegal annexation of Kashmir is part of a wider policy to target Muslims.<a href="https://t.co/QmjTDyaGVV">https://t.co/QmjTDyaGVV</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1167679291284492288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/SBIQ6UHrRD">https://t.co/SBIQ6UHrRD</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1167679294971232256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/SBIQ6UHrRD">https://t.co/SBIQ6UHrRD</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1167679294971232256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

Pakistans twitter ranting PM just accused millions of assamese who fought to get the NRC of ethnic cleansing.

This is is why hardly anyone will take these guts seriously.
 
[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

Pakistans twitter ranting PM just accused millions of assamese who fought to get the NRC of ethnic cleansing.

This is is why hardly anyone will take these guts seriously.

He's desperate. He's just going through any stories that are coming out and putting it in Twitter without any verification.

Seems like one can manipulate him very easily. Has the integrity of PTI came this far where they are dancing to the tune set by media I wonder.
 
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