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India and Bangladesh need to beat NZ by big margin...still chances is there
But still pak has to beat Bangla
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India and Bangladesh need to beat NZ by big margin...still chances is there
Don't know. Where I live in Delhi, there were a lot of crackers burst.Usually when India beats Pakistan, there used to be lot of crackers burst and noise from households all around..but this time there is an eerie silence.
Why will the host country qualify?Yes, that will make the way for NZ and IND to enter into semis. Host country quits in KO stage itself after bringing ICC event after 29 years.
We lost cause of Kl rahulplayers under Sky ? lol thats the biggest joke i have read on this forum in long time ...SKY ki khud ki position confirmed nahi hai odi test team mei.
Kohli is an ODI phenomenon ... he can still play over 150 balls running at crazy speeds. something even buttler root williamson smith cant do consistently . When its a slow / difficult pitch no amount of crazy hitting will work... u need maturity and fitness to play through
australia has beaten us in close finals over last few years not because they r much better .. but because of factors that r beyond common man and even ur understanding . match fixing or not, certain players bring a lot of sponsor money to boards and sadly our board rewards them over backing young players to replace them. had we had samson or some better consistent batter in place of kl rahul and others in wc 2023 we could have won.
look at samson .guy is inconsistent. but yes rohit sharma and kl rahul are replaceable ..but board wont do it.
anyways the t20 side now has almost all young turks so lets see where they go .. afas odis are concerned kohli is indispensable .
yes and there was no ashwin and again poor kohli rohit kl show in wtc finals as wellWe lost cause of Kl rahul
Rat kohli slow innings
Useless Rohit fat Rohit falling to Maxwell of all people
Also no pandya no jaiswal and no pant dint help
Aus never beat full strength india
So momingsaigol is wrong as usual
India wins at full strength
Not easy to find replacements for bumrah. Bumrah has max 4 to 6 years left
Yea we will be fineNot easy to find replacements for bumrah. Bumrah has max 4 to 6 years left
There is truth to what you're saying. However, nothing beats the joy of beating Pakistan, any game, any format, that joyous feeling trumps everything else.This is probably the first time in history beating Bangladesh gave greater satisfaction that yesterday's win.
Bangladesh team will be undisputably better than Pak in a decade. Already better at a junior level so will take a while to trickle to the senior level.This is probably the first time in history beating Bangladesh gave greater satisfaction that yesterday's win.
More to do with the fact that you are I assume an older fan.There is truth to what you're saying. However, nothing beats the joy of beating Pakistan, any game, any format, that joyous feeling trumps everything else.
Started following cricket from 1987 WC, played in India & Pakistan.More to do with the fact that you are I assume an older fan.
Even I have some joy but not too much, cause I started watching cricket from the 03 WC. I have seen them win some but lose more so for me Pak is a decent team which can punch up occasionally. For 80s-90s fans different viewpoint.
Current GenZ Indians don't give an f about Pakistan (who started watching from 2007/2011 onwards).
Same thing that has happened with hockey will happen. I became a hockey watcher after India's bronze win in 2021 and post that I have never seen Pak win against Ind in hockey (India is on like a 15, 16 match winning streak against Pak from a decade). Ofc, Pak are such a bad team that they don't even qualify for WC/Olympics but have seen them getting demolished in the "lower" comps like Asian Games, Asian Champion's Trophy etc.
That's true. I was on a flight yesterday for the first half hour of the game. The captain - a guy in his mid-forties kept giving us updates on the toss and score. The young guy sitting next to me was pretty amused at his and my interest when I started refreshing as soon as we landed. It's not like he had no knowledge of cricket either.Started following cricket from 1987 WC, played in India & Pakistan.
Rest of your points - I agree. However, for my generation, beating Pakistan never gets boring.
lol true.That's true. I was on a flight yesterday for the first half hour of the game. The captain - a guy in his mid-forties kept giving us updates on the toss and score. The young guy sitting next to me was pretty amused at his and my interest when I started refreshing as soon as we landed. It's not like he had no knowledge of cricket either.
"Of course we'll win uncle" is what he said to me. After I got over being called an 'uncle' by a guy in his late twenties, I was stuck by how little stress he was taking.
40s guys - lots of tensionThat's true. I was on a flight yesterday for the first half hour of the game. The captain - a guy in his mid-forties kept giving us updates on the toss and score. The young guy sitting next to me was pretty amused at his and my interest when I started refreshing as soon as we landed. It's not like he had no knowledge of cricket either.
"Of course we'll win uncle" is what he said to me. After I got over being called an 'uncle' by a guy in his late twenties, I was stuck by how little stress he was taking.
don't really mind as long as there is no physical contact or is of a sexual/racist etc nature.Was there any need for Abrar to give such send off to Shubhman Gill.
In return, Indian team gave spicy send off to Pakistan team from Champions trophy
If that's the case, and he continues to hang on to this job, then he becomes as shameless as everyone else.It means that there are things beyond his power and control
Maybe he will spill the beans once he leaves the PCB
But when will the core issue of player power be resolved? The next guy after Aqib will only be the next victim of this issueIf that's the case, and he continues to hang on to this job, then he becomes as shameless as everyone else.
Also, this game showed why Kuldeep is so important for our team in all formats. Take out Jadeja if you are desperate to play Varun but don't get him into team at the expense of Kuldeep who is an out and out match winner.
Our mad selectors have done this madness plenty of times during past few years.Kuldeep is as important as Bumrah or Gill etc dropping him would be madness.
Tbh, I do not think player power is what is keeping this team from progressing.But when will the core issue of player power be resolved? The next guy after Aqib will only be the next victim of this issue
Well we agree on something: Pakistan is not a match for a the Indian C Team.What planet are you on brother?
Planet Earth
We didn’t have our best bowler who is head and shoulders above the rest of the world
Not needed to beat minnows who themsleves domt have anu world class players due to falhar and saim being injured. Its the equivalent of playing Mcgrath against USA. Not a disadvantage.
We did not have one of more attacking middle order batsman.
Same as before. No need to play viv Richards against Nepal. Not a disadvantage.
And we did not even select our best bowlers out of the 16 we selected.
Same as before.
And we lost the toss on a pitch that deteriorates.
Doesnt change the fact that a weakened Pakistan isnt beating a marginally weaker india when a c tesm india could beat pak at full strength in odi.
none of these are disadvantages.
For SKY - did I mention ODIs anywhere ? Yes, Ind under SKY in T20s is totally selfless led by the acts of the captain himself.players under Sky ? lol thats the biggest joke i have read on this forum in long time ...SKY ki khud ki position confirmed nahi hai odi test team mei.
Kohli is an ODI phenomenon ... he can still play over 150 balls running at crazy speeds. something even buttler root williamson smith cant do consistently . When its a slow / difficult pitch no amount of crazy hitting will work... u need maturity and fitness to play through
australia has beaten us in close finals over last few years not because they r much better .. but because of factors that r beyond common man and even ur understanding . match fixing or not, certain players bring a lot of sponsor money to boards and sadly our board rewards them over backing young players to replace them. had we had samson or some better consistent batter in place of kl rahul and others in wc 2023 we could have won.
look at samson .guy is inconsistent. but yes rohit sharma and kl rahul are replaceable ..but board wont do it.
anyways the t20 side now has almost all young turks so lets see where they go .. afas odis are concerned kohli is indispensable .
Which isnt good for our cardiac health either, two weeks out from any Ind/Pak;Pak/Ind match, wife puts me on no salt no oil diet and checks my life insurance's upto date....40s guys - lots of tension
30s (like me) - some tension, but not a lot. as long as there isn't some massive chokes, should go through.
20s - doesn't give a damn. their earliest memories are the misbah scoop and mohali etc
Waqar becomes the greatest tactician when he is on air. Why didnt he implement anything that he says during his tenure ?Reactions of former Pakistan legends on Pakistan losing against India
Wasim Akram speaking during a TV Show:
“Everyone including selectors is to be blamed. I say this because I don't understand what they were thinking when they picked the team. Like these two bowlers, Khushdil Shah and Salman Ali Agha, would trouble the world's best batters on flat wickets.”
Waqar Younis speaking during a TV Show::
“It was a good toss to win and we also like batting first. But there weren’t enough runs on the board and when you don’t score enough runs then this is what happens. You over-try things. There’s a need for discipline in bowling. Indian bowlers were disciplined. We didn’t have enough discipline in our bowling.”
“It’s hard to explain what happened. Today Babar Azam was looking good. Once he got out, Rizwan went in, first ball, bang for four. The intent was there, it seemed like they had a plan and intent that we would put up a good score. I honestly don’t know what happened after. I don’t think anybody knows what happened.”
Shoaib Akhtar speaking on his social media account:
“I am not disappointed at all (by the defeat to India) because I knew what would happen. You can’t select five bowlers, the whole world is playing six bowlers… you go with two all-rounders but this is just brainless and clueless management. I am really disappointed.”
“We can’t blame the kids; The players are just as the team management is! They don’t know what to do. The intent is a different thing, they don’t have the skillsets like Rohit, Virat, and Shubman. Neither they know anything, nor the management. They have just gone to play without any clear direction. No one knows what they should do.”
Reactions of former Pakistan legends on Pakistan losing against India
Wasim Akram speaking during a TV Show:
“Everyone including selectors is to be blamed. I say this because I don't understand what they were thinking when they picked the team. Like these two bowlers, Khushdil Shah and Salman Ali Agha, would trouble the world's best batters on flat wickets.”
Waqar Younis speaking during a TV Show::
“It was a good toss to win and we also like batting first. But there weren’t enough runs on the board and when you don’t score enough runs then this is what happens. You over-try things. There’s a need for discipline in bowling. Indian bowlers were disciplined. We didn’t have enough discipline in our bowling.”
“It’s hard to explain what happened. Today Babar Azam was looking good. Once he got out, Rizwan went in, first ball, bang for four. The intent was there, it seemed like they had a plan and intent that we would put up a good score. I honestly don’t know what happened after. I don’t think anybody knows what happened.”
Shoaib Akhtar speaking on his social media account:
“I am not disappointed at all (by the defeat to India) because I knew what would happen. You can’t select five bowlers, the whole world is playing six bowlers… you go with two all-rounders but this is just brainless and clueless management. I am really disappointed.”
“We can’t blame the kids; The players are just as the team management is! They don’t know what to do. The intent is a different thing, they don’t have the skillsets like Rohit, Virat, and Shubman. Neither they know anything, nor the management. They have just gone to play without any clear direction. No one knows what they should do.”