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India [268/7] defeat West Indies [143] to win by a comfortable margin of 125 runs in the World Cup

If Dhoni can hit 6 4 6 of last over...why can he not do it for a couple of overs, more earlier in his innings and then bat his tuk tuk rest of the time ...atleast that will get him run a ball 50 or 60.

Kedar Jadhav needs to go and Dhoni needs to bat at 4. Mgmt should ask Dhoni play his usual innings at SR of 75 or 80 at 4, but instead of Kedar Jadhav get in Pant an X factor player.
Dhoni at no 4 followed by 3 hitters (Pandya,Pant, Vijay) will take pressure of Dhoni and he will get more confident and score run a ball 50s..something needed at no 4 for this Indian top heavy team.
Pretty sure I have seen Vijay also hit cleanly in few India A games I saw in the past, when he is not in pressure. The no 4 spot is also putting Vijay in pressure and he has had to subdue his natural hitting instincts in order to try build an innings at 4 and so he seems to be failing.Vijays bowling is reasonably good enough to let him slip in 3 to 5 overs along with Pandyas 5- 6 overs and both combined can be 5th bowler.

But if India is seriously wants to win cup it better plug its weakness before someone exposes in SF or final.

I just criticize Dhoni to troll BvB :)) , but frankly there is no doubt ,Dhoni has to be in the team....definitely for his wicket keeping and advisory role. Just get the feeling that as an
accumulator/stabiliser at 4 he just needs to improve his running between the wickets slightly which is hampering him becoming the reliable Dhoni of the past.With Dhoni as 4, Pandya,Pant and Vijay can also then freely try to target 25 ball 40s scores ... knowing Dhoni is around to tuk tuk in case of collapse. Dhoni can happily play slow and stable knowing these 3 exist to take up accelarationrole. With Dhoni as stabiliser, even if one of the three (PantPandyaVijai) has a good day with the bat and score a quickfire 50 -60...more often than not India will reach good score they can defend.

So to summarize, Dhoni is needed for his experience but his weakness running between wickets needs to improve , Vijay & Pandya need to be in team for thier 3D :)) capabilities and Pant just because he can go ballisitc on his day (X factor). As a result KJadhav is only person who will unfortunately loose out from playing 11.
 
Napa said:
True... his S/R should at least be 100. His only excuse is that given India's long tail, he had to bat risk-free in his early innings.

I do agree that he has slowed down considerably. Would be wonderful if the team could win this WC for him like they won it for Tendulkar in 2011.
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He is losing it now, and that is the reason he was not able to accelerate, and this inning was not exactly risk-free; he was dropped, and there was a missed stumping chance.
 
Mp812 said:
If Dhoni can hit 6 4 6 of last over...why can he not do it for a couple of overs, more earlier in his innings and then bat his tuk tuk rest of the time ...atleast that will get him run a ball 50 or 60.

Kedar Jadhav needs to go and Dhoni needs to bat at 4. Mgmt should ask Dhoni play his usual innings at SR of 75 or 80 at 4, but instead of Kedar Jadhav get in Pant an X factor player.
Dhoni at no 4 followed by 3 hitters (Pandya,Pant, Vijay) will take pressure of Dhoni and he will get more confident and score run a ball 50s..something needed at no 4 for this Indian top heavy team.
Pretty sure I have seen Vijay also hit cleanly in few India A games I saw in the past, when he is not in pressure. The no 4 spot is also putting Vijay in pressure and he has had to subdue his natural hitting instincts in order to try build an innings at 4 and so he seems to be failing.Vijays bowling is reasonably good enough to let him slip in 3 to 5 overs along with Pandyas 5- 6 overs and both combined can be 5th bowler.

But if India is seriously wants to win cup it better plug its weakness before someone exposes in SF or final.

I just criticize Dhoni to troll BvB :)) , but frankly there is no doubt ,Dhoni has to be in the team....definitely for his wicket keeping and advisory role. Just get the feeling that as an
accumulator/stabiliser at 4 he just needs to improve his running between the wickets slightly which is hampering him becoming the reliable Dhoni of the past.With Dhoni as 4, Pandya,Pant and Vijay can also then freely try to target 25 ball 40s scores ... knowing Dhoni is around to tuk tuk in case of collapse. Dhoni can happily play slow and stable knowing these 3 exist to take up accelarationrole. With Dhoni as stabiliser, even if one of the three (PantPandyaVijai) has a good day with the bat and score a quickfire 50 -60...more often than not India will reach good score they can defend.

So to summarize, Dhoni is needed for his experience but his weakness running between wickets needs to improve , Vijay & Pandya need to be in team for thier 3D :)) capabilities and Pant just because he can go ballisitc on his day (X factor). As a result KJadhav is only person who will unfortunately loose out from playing 11.
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You should print this post on a paper and wipe your tears. :inti
 
dhump said:
He is losing it now, and that is the reason he was not able to accelerate, and this inning was not exactly risk-free; he was dropped, and there was a missed stumping chance.
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That missed stump chance...dhoni was half way down the crease..with some of his awarness to me it seemed like Mohammed amir no ball moment
 
These T20 players only have two gears either total dead bat or full hell to leather. Nothing inbetween. I was hoping WI win today so that India takes England game seriously and play with hunger because England is wounded and will be crazy desperate. If they win by chillaxing today India will also take England game easy.
 
i still feel there's no young player that has set the WC on fire....i felt it will be archer....but he's middling-some hot some cold....so it will be either pant or Mo hasnain or thomas(wi), pak's SSA was sensational against nz....i hope we play pant and pak plays mo hasnain....will be good to see the young ones...
 
I think once Bhuvi is fit we should bring him in for Shankar, he has batting skills and can be utilized.. and his new ball and death over bowing in Eng is good..
 
I hope they don't rest Shami against ENG on Sunday! Heck it will be a dream sight to see Shami, Bhuvi and Bumrah opening the bowling spell for us!
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
i still feel there's no young player that has set the WC on fire....i felt it will be archer....but he's middling-some hot some cold....so it will be either pant or Mo hasnain or thomas(wi), pak's SSA was sensational against nz....i hope we play pant and pak plays mo hasnain....will be good to see the young ones...
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Forget pant ,now that india is nearing semis he wont get a chance poor lad
 
Syed1 said:
These T20 players only have two gears either total dead bat or full hell to leather. Nothing inbetween. I was hoping WI win today so that India takes England game seriously and play with hunger because England is wounded and will be crazy desperate. If they win by chillaxing today India will also take England game easy.
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If India lose today then India also play immense under pressure where our batting can collapse.
 
Shami is amazing bowler. Hope we play all 3 fast bowlers after Bhuvi returns from injury and drop Shankar
 
Syed1 said:
These T20 players only have two gears either total dead bat or full hell to leather. Nothing inbetween. I was hoping WI win today so that India takes England game seriously and play with hunger because England is wounded and will be crazy desperate. If they win by chillaxing today India will also take England game easy.
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You guys were unlucky that ind-nz and Pak-SL were washed out. Else it would have been Pakistan on 8 and NZ on 10.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Shami is amazing bowler. Hope we play all 3 fast bowlers after Bhuvi returns from injury and drop Shankar
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Posted the same above.. radical thinking is required..do we have the balls to do it, plus Bhuvi has batting skills same as Shankar
 
ak619 said:
Apparently runs in the last over only goes in Dhoni's name and not in the team's name.

Gotcha!
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Create a crisis.

Solve it (atleast statistically).

Become a hero.

Another day, he could have got out after a slow knock and put India in a bigger hole.

Getcha?
 
DeadlyYorker said:
No way ,we need kucha and pandya in squad at all cost
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We can play 6 bowlers.

Shankar is useless anyways bhuvi might be a better batsman than Shankar. And I want dhoni to come at 4. He takes so long to settle in these days so he can get settle in at 4 and accelerate earlier because there will be more wickets left if he comes in at 4.
 
seeing the way Shami has been dominating Bumrah, I won't be suprised if they replace Burmah with Bhuvi in the coming matches.
 
Bhuvi getting injured could be a blessing in disguise for India. Without that happening, Shami may not have had a chance to play. Now when Bhuvi is back, we should keep playing Shami and drop one of Jadhav or Shankar.
 
JaDed said:
That is very annoying and i think that too, like BJP 2019 only they can solve economy lol
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How can people defend today's Dhoni knock is beyond me really.

Ok he made it up in the end but everyday this won't happen.

And it's not like he's in prime form where he can surely make it up most of the times.
 
Napa said:
Bhuvi getting injured could be a blessing in disguise for India. Without that happening, Shami may not have had a chance to play. Now when Bhuvi is back, we should keep playing Shami and drop one of Jadhav or Shankar.
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Why do we need so many bowlers. Our bowling is fine.
Only change needed is Pant in place of Shankar/Jadhav
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
How can people defend today's Dhoni knock is beyond me really.

Ok he made it up in the end but everyday this won't happen.

And it's not like he's in prime form where he can surely make it up most of the times.
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Dhoni fans are like bh@kts, they can't tolerate criticism.
 
And just like that...with this 7 overs of great bowling by Bhumrah and Shami...268 now seems 298.
 
JaDed said:
Posted the same above.. radical thinking is required..do we have the balls to do it, plus Bhuvi has batting skills same as Shankar
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Shankar is useless anyways dhoni needs to play at 4 he is too slow to bat at 5 or 6. So bhuvi can be #7. Batting looks thin on paper but it's already very thin.
 
big_gamer007 said:
We can play 6 bowlers.

Shankar is useless anyways bhuvi might be a better batsman than Shankar. And I want dhoni to come at 4. He takes so long to settle in these days so he can get settle in at 4 and accelerate earlier because there will be more wickets left if he comes in at 4.
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No we cant play six bowlers because we are not happy with shankars batting so we cant agree with bhuvis batting , bowling is good as it is,what you are suggesting is thickeing the already strong wall and not filling a big hole in it
 
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