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We should not compare our batting to India's. Our batting approach needs to match the players that we have.
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India (271/5) defeat New Zealand (225) by 46 runs in final T20I to win series 4-1
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We should not compare our batting to India's. Our batting approach needs to match the players that we have.
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If you don’t, you’ll continue to post below par or middling scores like 160-170 and rely on your bowlers to bail you out - what happens if one or two have an off day? 190 and higher is a par score these days and you have to select players who can get you there. T20 is no longer Babar’s and Rizwan’s game anymore.
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Babar even by his own standard regressed massively. May be his own standard was not so far off from international standards 3 or 4 years back. Now international standard has gone way up
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I think India is an exception, anywhere else in the world you can score 200 plus and expect to win the match comfortably on majority of occasions.
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Successful 200 run chase since 2024
In West Indies - 3 times
In NZ - 2 times
In SA - 2 times
In India - 1 time
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Hahah... So lean period for a good sample... Ofcourse teams could have some respite if they are easily scoring 230 plus... Infact missing 300 by bare margins
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The factor is not Indian pitches. It is India.
Other teams are not scoring 230 plus in India.
India has scored 230 plus outside India as well.
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Only once that happened in India was chased by India. Before 2024 not many 200s happened in India. Only with a new line up India makes a lot of 200 plus totals. For heavensake they made 287/1 at the wanderers.
Honed at PP and inspired by X years since India won an ICC trophy blah blah blah...selective data sampling that's an art here
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Honed at PP and inspired by X years since India won an ICC trophy blah blah blah...selective data sampling that's an art here
There is a no better place to chase a bare 200 target anywhere in the world than India these days.... especially in the conditions that we just witnessed...otherwise just look eastward what happened to Aussies today
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There is a difference between under-prepared wickets and true wicket. 19 overs of spin never happen anywhere in the world. May be Bangladesh.
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Ok fine argument, but where does 250 become a joke or regular occurrence?
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It became a regular occurrence after india started infusing youngsters. When obviously two of the greatest white ball players Rohit and Kohli were around these were not common scores.
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Cricket as a sport is going to a point of no return when it comes to test cricket... Test cricket will probably be around for another 10 years Max if lucky... Sad state of affairs...
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Thing is no one apart from India has chased 200 in India.
And Bangladesh is eastward.
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No, I vividly remember Australia has done that
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Against a full strength India team? I think not.
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Date | Venue | Target | Score Achieved | Result | Key Performers |
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Nov 28, 2023 | Guwahati, India | 223 | 225/5 (20.0) | Won by 5 wickets | Glenn Maxwell (104* off 48) |
Sep 20, 2022 | Mohali, India | 209 | 211/6 (19.2) | Won by 4 wickets |
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I'm pretty sure none of these were full strength.
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That was B team. Ruturaj made 123 in 54 balls. Prasidh krishna rarely plays for T20. He conceded 28 runs or something in 19th over ot maxwell. INdia was going to win it easily then that happened.
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Harshal Patel lolol
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Don't remind me of tha tnightmare. He should have stuck in USA working in a store. You know he was working in a pakistani guy's perfume store. Should have continued with that.Lolol....2 times IPL purple cap winner
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Lolol....2 times IPL purple cap winner
These sanghis think cricket world revolves around IPL.
Who cares about IPL?
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This is exactly what I mean when I say "you see cricket through the lens of Misbah".
What you're basically saying is we don't have the best players so let's go back to the 2000s/2010s where anchors were a thing in T20 cricket.
This is exactly what Misbah did when he came up with Babar/Rizwan opening combo in T20s. This is the same guy who ended his T20I career with a strike rate of 110, which was fractionally over a run a ball. That's terrible, even for someone who played T20I cricket when it was in it's infancy.
Also there's another flaw with your reasoning. There are lesser teams than Pakistan (Sri Lanka, Scotland, Ireland and etc), who bat far more aggressively than Pakistan in the shortest format because they adhere to the modern demands of T20 cricket.
My advice to you think outside of Misbah/Babar/Rizwan. Even if you don't like or rate guys like Sahibzada Farhan, Salman Agha, Usman Khan and etc. Just give them a chance.
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Anyway, I think Final score would look something like this.
Good job, India! wow. As a Pakistani, I definitely envy their team. Everyone is a match-winner. Ishan Kishan should never have been dropped; he has a double century to his name and is extremely dangerous. Sanju is probably very talented but clearly he is the weak link and now he is replaced by Ishan. How do you run through this batting lineup even if you get Sharma out cheaply?
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These sanghis think cricket world revolves around IPL.
Who cares about IPL?
Enough people to make it the 13th richest sporting league in the world by revenue, despite being just 17 years in existence till date.
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