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Sachin Tendulkar, the former India captain, said a well-balanced Indian team goes into the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019 as the favourites and also singled out hosts England as toughest contenders.

India have been in good form in one-day international cricket over the past 12 months, winning ODI series against South Africa, the Windies, Australia and New Zealand, and these victories put them in the hot seat as one of the favourties to win the World Cup in England and Wales this year.

"I have gone on record saying that we have a perfect balance in the team where we will be competitive in any part of the world or on any surface," Tendulkar told PTI.

"It’s all about getting the early momentum. My judgement on the toughest contenders would be England, while New Zealand would be the dark horse," he said. "I know New Zealand have struggled in this series but it’s a good unit, one needs to be on their toes."

As for the defending champions Australia, they are expected to be boosted by the return of Steve Smith and David Warner, who complete their 12-month bans imposed by Cricket Australia on 29 March, and Tendulkar believes the return of the two key players will make Australia "formidable".

"I think Australia at full strength will be a formidable side. With Smith and David Warner back in the team and their other bowlers coming back into the ODI squad, it will be a competitive side," Tendulkar said.

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When Sachin says it - he means it
 
Not that I care about what Tendulkar has to say but I think it's great that no one is mentioning Pakistan as being a favourite or having any chances in this world cup... It's the perfect situation for us, no pressure plus we play better as the underdog.

Forget India, England, Australia etc etc.. The teams to watch out for will be the Windies and Pakistan.
It would not be a big surprise if either of these two teams ends up winning it.
 
Putting a lot of faith in these oldies in the middle order. This thread might be bumped again and again and again :)
 
While the Indian fans might have a point about the team being long in the tooth, youth alone cannot win you a cup as tough as a world cup. Don't believe me? Just refer to the last WC squad where our boys couldn't deliver when the pressure increased in the SF.

So having just young players wouldn't give you the results and it is the same with older players too. A team can plan for most scenarios, but needs players to use those bits of wisdom gained to perform at the right stage and perhaps the team management feels that we lacked a bit of experience in our last campaign and that is why you see players who are around for a long time (this time around).

We need to wait and see how this pans out. Of course there is a huge un-quantifiable called luck as well. Whether we like it or not it is too late to make any changes now and we will have to live with that and back the team that would be picked which is not going to be too different from what we see today. Let us hope the management is right.
 
All it takes is one bad game when it matters....
 
Not that I care about what Tendulkar has to say but I think it's great that no one is mentioning Pakistan as being a favourite or having any chances in this world cup... It's the perfect situation for us, no pressure plus we play better as the underdog.

Forget India, England, Australia etc etc.. The teams to watch out for will be the Windies and Pakistan.
It would not be a big surprise if either of these two teams ends up winning it.

When was the last time an underdog or a mediocre team won the world cup? 2015, 2011, the other Australia world cups, etc were all won by teams that were the best or the second best in the world at that time.
 
Bump able thread.

Not really, since the 2000's we have gone into most tournaments as one of the favorites, you would be hard pressed to find tournaments where we weren't expected to have a chance of winning in last 20 years.
 
And? What's that got to do with India being favorites, which they factually are together with England.

It would have been strange thread if you had 50 replies where everyone writes: «yes they are favourites»

Being favourites doen’t mean you will win the WC. And this tag only put more preassure on you. Chamchi nal samjawan tennu?
 
It would have been strange thread if you had 50 replies where everyone writes: «yes they are favourites»

Being favourites doen’t mean you will win the WC. And this tag only put more preassure on you. Chamchi nal samjawan tennu?

Lmao, why did you assume I care for everyone agreeing with Sachin? And who even suggested that being favorites means you win the tournament? Yes, nobody did.

And why would Sachin care if it puts more pressure or not. It would be different if Kohli were to make that comment. You think all Indian ex cricketers would somehow adopt some omerta code where nobody agrees India are favorites because it would put pressure on Team India?

Lol, what a strange guy.
 
SRT is on spot here.

India has 3 potential match-winners who can win games with individual performances alone. Sharma, VK and Bumrah!

And it gets scarier if you consider Dhawan, MSD and the new spinners.

They are the team to beat.

For them to lose this world cup, they must have a collective bad day and the opposition must deliver with 1 ATG performance.

And as I said in some other post: only a team like Pak can perform like that. So if we play against them in an eliminator, we might edge it.

So it, indeed, is India's world cup to lose :srt
 
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7 players in this Indian team can make a difference with a spark of brilliance. Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal, Pandya. They have the X factor and have the ability to turn games. Other than England which has assembled the most aggressive batting lineup in history, there are not many that can challenge this Indian team. All the Indian players are used to playing big games, finals and India generally is a very well managed team in the tournaments. They perform well under pressure and know their game and strategies very well. They are the hot favorites and anything less than winning the WC will be a disappointment for this India team.
 
And? What's that got to do with India being favorites, which they factually are together with England.

Not just Tendulkar. Even Bookies website have India as favorites. This is mostly due to others being inferior collectively.
 
Not that I care about what Tendulkar has to say but I think it's great that no one is mentioning Pakistan as being a favourite or having any chances in this world cup... It's the perfect situation for us, no pressure plus we play better as the underdog.

Forget India, England, Australia etc etc.. The teams to watch out for will be the Windies and Pakistan.
It would not be a big surprise if either of these two teams ends up winning it.

India and England are not going to underestimate PCT again :)
 
We are a complicated lot; we hate it if you call us favorites and we hate if you don’t mention as dark horses.
Me, I am just here for the camera shots panning across to the ambhani/tendulkar corporate suites when we beat India once a decade
 
We are a complicated lot; we hate it if you call us favorites and we hate if you don’t mention as dark horses.
Me, I am just here for the camera shots panning across to the ambhani/tendulkar corporate suites when we beat India once a decade

Pakistan is not a favorite. They are not a dark horse either. As CT champions, they are a genuine contender. Other contenders are NZ and AUS.

England, India are favorites. West Indies is the dark horse. SA, BD will spoil the party of a few teams. Afghans will compete. Sri Lankans will roll over.
 
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We are a complicated lot; we hate it if you call us favorites and we hate if you don’t mention as dark horses.
Me, I am just here for the camera shots panning across to the ambhani/tendulkar corporate suites when we beat India once a decade

What he says is correct though. India are definitely one fo the favorites. World no.2. Pummelled SA/NZ in their own home turf. Won Asia cup. Reached CT final. Beat OZ in OZ. Lost only in England that too with a second string bowling team.Also they have the best middle order control with ball. World no.1 batsman world no.1 bowler world no.2 batsman. world no.4 bowler. world no.6 bowler. But they have Rayudu, Dhoni in the middle hehe. We are being a touch pessimistic because Indian middle order is not reliable.
 
Pakistan is not a favorite. They are not a dark horse either. As CT champions, they are a genuine contender. Other contenders are NZ and AUS.

England, India are favorites. West Indies is the dark horse. BD will spoil the party of a few teams. Afghans will compete. Sri Lankans will roll over.

can you also cover the sports, the weather, and the stock exchange as well?
 
What he says is correct though. India are definitely one fo the favorites. World no.2. Pummelled SA/NZ in their own home turf. Won Asia cup. Reached CT final. Beat OZ in OZ. Lost only in England that too with a second string bowling team.Also they have the best middle order control with ball. World no.1 batsman world no.1 bowler world no.2 batsman. world no.4 bowler. world no.6 bowler. But they have Rayudu, Dhoni in the middle hehe. We are being a touch pessimistic because Indian middle order is not reliable.

no disagreement with the truth of the argument. probably needs a little more finesse for wiggle room. Of course that finesse doesnt mean putting Pakistan in there.
 
India and England are not going to underestimate PCT again :)

I don't know why but I have a sneaky feeling that Windies may cause a huge upset.
They are a tournament team (especially in T20's) and you would righting them off at your own peril.

I already have Pakistan down for a loss against them in the round robin stages...
 
I don't know why but I have a sneaky feeling that Windies may cause a huge upset.
They are a tournament team (especially in T20's) and you would righting them off at your own peril.

I already have Pakistan down for a loss against them in the round robin stages...

West Indies will be a problem for pakistan; they will not score many but there bowlers will do the job. similar to what happened in the last world cup
 
On paper I suppose we are. Since 2016 , we have been the best ODI team going around in terms of consistent results. Even England can't boast of such a record. Rankings-wise we are the only team who are close to England. It's

India/England
SA/NZ
PAK/OZ
WI/BD

with significant gap between these pairs of teams. But we all know that the reality is that the world cup brings out the best in OZ, worst in RSA etc. so it's hard to predict.
 
West Indies will be a problem for pakistan; they will not score many but there bowlers will do the job. similar to what happened in the last world cup

Last world cup, Windies scored 300 against Pakistan. They can be a very explosive unit who can do well in the right conditions. Problem for PAK is that they will face windies on a fresh Trent bridge wicket with short boundary .... If the likes of hetmyer and hope really click, they will be a handful .
 
Last world cup, Windies scored 300 against Pakistan. They can be a very explosive unit who can do well in the right conditions. Problem for PAK is that they will face windies on a fresh Trent bridge wicket with short boundary .... If the likes of hetmyer and hope really click, they will be a handful .

No. i mean how they bowled. i dont see them getting 300 here...the spinners will tie them down. I expect them to defend a score because of their bowling
 
It'll be a fascinating battle between England and India, to top the group stage. I expect one of them to be knocked out in the semi-finals though.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't see Australia doing well. They are playing in England, where their recent record has been rubbish.

NZ and SA to make it through to the semis, with Pakistan as the dark horse.
 
So what to understand at the end of 50 posts. India is not in faviorates and WI or Pak have more chance to win. Or India is one of favourites. My mind says go with Sachin understanding. But then lot many posters here who are more knowledgeable think otherwise.
 
It'll be a fascinating battle between England and India, to top the group stage. I expect one of them to be knocked out in the semi-finals though.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't see Australia doing well. They are playing in England, where their recent record has been rubbish.

NZ and SA to make it through to the semis, with Pakistan as the dark horse.

Habit of seeing Australia getting to the final and winning it makes us think Australia is always a favorite regardless of their form.
 
Ind just ahead of Eng. India have an ATG in their team and a great bowler in Bumrah, England don't a single top notch OdI bowler. Both have hitters but England have more but hitters can wilt under pressure. History shows that in most recent WC's either SL or NZ make the SF so don't be surprised if they pull a surprise. The only two teams I don't see winning the WC are PK and SA.
 
England for me.

The World Cup is in early summer and the ball may well swing and seam. India's batsmen can't play the moving ball barring Kolhi.
 
ODI cricket is always unpredictable. Being favorites mean jack. All you need is one bad match in the knock out stage. West Indies lost to India twice in the 83' WC, West Indies lost to Kenya in the 96' WC, Pak lost to BD in the 99' WC, both India and Pakistan were knocked out in the preliminary stages of the 07' WC.

Nothing can be said about ODI cricket.
 
ODI cricket is always unpredictable. Being favorites mean jack. All you need is one bad match in the knock out stage. West Indies lost to India twice in the 83' WC, West Indies lost to Kenya in the 96' WC, Pak lost to BD in the 99' WC, both India and Pakistan were knocked out in the preliminary stages of the 07' WC.

Nothing can be said about ODI cricket.

1987/1996 two worlds cups where India were overwhelming favorites besides 2011. All happened in Asia. India disappointed twice in the semis before winning one.
 
Few interesting patterns

1999 - OZ vs Asian team - Asian team lost
2003 - OZ vs Asian team - Asian team lost
2007 - OZ vs Asian team - Asian team lost
2011 - Asian team vs Asian team
2015 - Oceania team vs Ocenia team

2019 - ?? - ??
 
Assumption is England can play the moving ball lol

If you're going by the test match in the Windies, it was test cricket which have different wickets to ODI pitches in England. The issue is the weather in the UK in June may be cool, windy with clouds. England are used to these conditions more thany any other team.
 
If you're going by the test match in the Windies, it was test cricket which have different wickets to ODI pitches in England. The issue is the weather in the UK in June may be cool, windy with clouds. England are used to these conditions more thany any other team.

Used to swinging ball is a hyperbole. There isn't a single team in the WC that can face the swinging ball with ease. England have another weakness on slower, turning pitches. If the conditions are tough, the best bowling teams have a chance. Thats India, Australia, SA and to a certain extent NZ, Pak.
 
If you're going by the test match in the Windies, it was test cricket which have different wickets to ODI pitches in England. The issue is the weather in the UK in June may be cool, windy with clouds. England are used to these conditions more thany any other team.

Dude. Every goddamn team is suspectible to swing. Not long England was 27/9 against Boult, Pakistan shoult out for 74 in NZ, 81 in WI. Things can pearshaped for every single team. You are suggesting as if only India has issues against moving balls. There are many teams that have issue again short ball, some have issues against wrist spin, some have issues against pace. England used to? So in swinging conditions England will come out trumps against Boult?
 
Used to swinging ball is a hyperbole. There isn't a single team in the WC that can face the swinging ball with ease. England have another weakness on slower, turning pitches. If the conditions are tough, the best bowling teams have a chance. Thats India, Australia, SA and to a certain extent NZ, Pak.

Exactly they have a bunch of hacks like Hale, Jason Roy to swing through the line. They are going to be great against swinging ball? lol
 
Clearly the favourites. Have the best bowling attack and an ATG top three with a decent middle order. It would be a shock if they don't make it to the Semi Finals.
 
Not really, since the 2000's we have gone into most tournaments as one of the favorites, you would be hard pressed to find tournaments where we weren't expected to have a chance of winning in last 20 years.

2015 world cup.
Just look at the odds.
Sa, nz aus were all favourites above u.
 
2015 world cup.
Just look at the odds.
Sa, nz aus were all favourites above u.

Even in the CWC 2007 aus, eng and Pak were favourites above india. Believe it or not.
Pak were 3rd in the odi ranking and india were 7th.
I'm looking at odds btw so i'm not being biased.
 
2015 world cup.
Just look at the odds.
Sa, nz aus were all favourites above u.

India was the winner of the 2013 CT and were one of the favorites to win 2015 WC. It was Pak media that thought India werent favorites based on India's series in AUS before the world cup. India dominated everyone and eventually lost to AUS in the SF.
 
Even in the CWC 2007 aus, eng and Pak were favourites above india. Believe it or not.
Pak were 3rd in the odi ranking and india were 7th.
I'm looking at odds btw so i'm not being biased.

Dhoni was red hot before this WC. India had a solid batting lineup and whenever you have someone called Sachin in your team, you are always favorites.
 
India clearly has issues with the moving ball in swinging conditions and teams will exploit this weakness in full swing. This coupled with a weak middle order consisting of old man dhoni, fat boy jhadav and a hack like hackadu wont be winning too many games. Last time Pakistan was running circles around this team in England for ct17.

My bet is a final with England and Australia and Nz being the possible dark horse. Sachin is just being nice and obviously he can’t be negative about the Indian team.
 
We are a complicated lot; we hate it if you call us favorites and we hate if you don’t mention as dark horses.
Me, I am just here for the camera shots panning across to the ambhani/tendulkar corporate suites when we beat India once a decade

once in 2-3 years if you were being honest/pedantic :P
 
Not that I care about what Tendulkar has to say but I think it's great that no one is mentioning Pakistan as being a favourite or having any chances in this world cup... It's the perfect situation for us, no pressure plus we play better as the underdog.

Forget India, England, Australia etc etc.. The teams to watch out for will be the Windies and Pakistan.
It would not be a big surprise if either of these two teams ends up winning it.

Immy, i am not sure how you suppose the relative obscurity of being an outsider has ever helped anyone overcome a skill or talent gap over a consistent period of time.

When was the last time Zimbabwe made it past the group stages while enjoying the relative stress less status of underdogs? Would you bestow the same likelihood of an upset on Sri Lanka? Or Bangladesh? Both teams that are underdogs and qualitatively better prepared than Pakistan?

The 1992 World Cup was not won by Pakistan because they were underdogs. It was won because they were the most skilled team to reach the semi finals and a quirk of the system robbed south africa of a final berth.
 
India clearly has issues with the moving ball in swinging conditions and teams will exploit this weakness in full swing. This coupled with a weak middle order consisting of old man dhoni, fat boy jhadav and a hack like hackadu wont be winning too many games. Last time Pakistan was running circles around this team in England for ct17.

My bet is a final with England and Australia and Nz being the possible dark horse. Sachin is just being nice and obviously he can’t be negative about the Indian team.
well then its a good thing that the most skilled bowlers who can move the ball around prodigiously are all going to be bowlers indian batsmen wont be facing... outside the nets that is.
 
Tendulkar is Indian cricket's Mickey Arthur.

Both need to let results do the talking.
 
I would say India are second favourites after England.
 
Tendulkar is Indian cricket's Mickey Arthur.

Both need to let results do the talking.

There is no comparison here. He is stating the fact. I would like to find a single expert who will not say India are the favourites. England and India are the top contenders for the title. They may not win it in the end but they are the two favourites by a long distance at the moment.
 
There is no comparison here. He is stating the fact. I would like to find a single expert who will not say India are the favourites. England and India are the top contenders for the title. They may not win it in the end but they are the two favourites by a long distance at the moment.

England are the favourites. 33% vs 25% for India as per the bookies when I last checked.

Second favorite is not what Tendulkar said.
 
England are the favourites. 33% vs 25% for India as per the bookies when I last checked.

Second favorite is not what Tendulkar said.

So bookies decide what individuals should think? Sachin Tendulkar feels that India are the favourites and there will be lots of others who will think that as well. It's their opinion. You may choose not to agree and that is your opinion. When I say someone is the favourite, I don't look at the odds offered by the bookies to state my opinion, in fact I don't even look at the odds.
 
So bookies decide what individuals should think? Sachin Tendulkar feels that India are the favourites and there will be lots of others who will think that as well. It's their opinion. You may choose not to agree and that is your opinion. When I say someone is the favourite, I don't look at the odds offered by the bookies to state my opinion, in fact I don't even look at the odds.

In your previous post you said "he is stating the fact", now you say it's opinion.
 
So bookies decide what individuals should think? Sachin Tendulkar feels that India are the favourites and there will be lots of others who will think that as well. It's their opinion. You may choose not to agree and that is your opinion. When I say someone is the favourite, I don't look at the odds offered by the bookies to state my opinion, in fact I don't even look at the odds.

They are not the favourites and that's factual.


Tendulkar may think they are but then he should let the results do the talking, as I said.
 
In your previous post you said "he is stating the fact", now you say it's opinion.

It is a fact that India is one of the favourites, he considers them to be the number 1 favourites, that is his opinion. The fact of the matter is that India along with England are the top contenders for the World Cup. Who is number 1 or number 2 is individual opinion, bookies don't determine how people rank.
 
Let’s say Ind makes it to SF or Finals. And Mr Kohli wins the toss and elects to chase against Eng or Aus or Pak. I wonder if Sachin still backs Ind to lift the trophy
 
They are not the favourites and that's factual.


Tendulkar may think they are but then he should let the results do the talking, as I said.

Why should he? Is he still playing for India? He is a former player who answered a question posed to him.
 
It is a fact that India is one of the favourites, he considers them to be the number 1 favourites, that is his opinion. The fact of the matter is that India along with England are the top contenders for the World Cup. Who is number 1 or number 2 is individual opinion, bookies don't determine how people rank.

I don't think you understand how odds work.

Betting odds, just like any other financial market, are the fairest reflection of what the average opinion is.
 
Not that I care about what Tendulkar has to say but I think it's great that no one is mentioning Pakistan as being a favourite or having any chances in this world cup... It's the perfect situation for us, no pressure plus we play better as the underdog.

Forget India, England, Australia etc etc.. The teams to watch out for will be the Windies and Pakistan.
It would not be a big surprise if either of these two teams ends up winning it.


It will not be a surprise, but it will be a fluke and it has happened before.
 
I don't think you understand how odds work.

Betting odds, just like any other financial market, are the fairest reflection of what the average opinion is.

I know how it works but that does not mean that someone cannot have an opinion different to that. No need to make it a huge deal. The problem with people is that we cannot take someone's opinion as his and start bringing unnecessary logic into the conversation to say how this person's opinion is poor.

He does say that both England and India are contenders for the title but places India slightly ahead. Don't understand what is wrong in that.
 
The way I see it, here are the odds to win the WC at the moment:

1) India
Strenghts: insane top 3, terrific bowling attack, world class fielding unit
Weaknesses: middle order batting

2) England
Strengths: bat all the way down to #10, could score 500
Weaknesses: toothless bowling attack, little championship pedigree

3) New Zealand
Strenghts: well balanced side not lacking anything major, terrific fielding
Weaknesses: no championship pedigree

4) South Africa:
Strength: solid bowling attack, explosive middle order batting
Weaknesses: game's biggest chokers

5) Australia
Strengths: terrific pace attack, championship pedigree
Weaknesses: Batting is Smith/Warner dependent, lacks a spinner

6t) Pakistan
Strengths: underdog factor, Ramadan tournament, decent seamers
Weaknesses: prone to batting collapses, Sarfraz's captaincy

6t) Bangladesh
Strengths: solid top order batting
Weaknesses: experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

8) Afghanistan
Strengths: world class spin attack
Weaknesses: everything else

9) West Indies
Strengths: big hitting capabilities, some talent in the middle order
Weaknesses: erratic bowling attack, not enough quality batsmen

10) Sri Lanka
Strengths: ???
Weaknesses: too many to list
 
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This is how I think the final group stage standings will end up (note: exact combination of wins and losses may not add up):

1) England 8-1
2) India 7-2
3) New Zealand 5-4
4) Australia 5-4
5) South Africa 5-4
6) Pakistan 4-5
7) Bangladesh 4-5
8) Afghanistan 3-6
9) West Indies 2-7
10) Sri Lanka 1-8
 
This is how I think the final group stage standings will end up (note: exact combination of wins and losses may not add up):

1) England 8-1
2) India 7-2
3) New Zealand 5-4
4) Australia 5-4
5) South Africa 5-4
6) Pakistan 4-5
7) Bangladesh 4-5
8) Afghanistan 3-6
9) West Indies 2-7
10) Sri Lanka 1-8

You are forgetting rain ..
 
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