India bans Chinese apps including TikTok and PUBG in “digital strike”

You are right. :inti


Weren't you the one who was jumping up and down in asking Govt/BCCI to prove their patriotism by banning Chinese products? So why are you whinning still? Or is it a case of taking opposing view anything govt does?
 
I am pretty sure most of the indian soldiers who died didn't even know 3 apps from these 59 banned apps but this has been used as a revenge for their sacrifice. What a waste of life.
 
Well a lot of people are reacting in a very dramatic way, somehow I hoped Gen Z is better than us Millenials...hopefully they can figure it out and not have mental health issues after the ban of tiktok.

I remember when Youtube changed its algorithm many famous youtubers lost their livelihood a very "Uber-ish" situation.

I wonder if people underestimate this digital gig economy..
 
Well a lot of people are reacting in a very dramatic way, somehow I hoped Gen Z is better than us Millenials...hopefully they can figure it out and not have mental health issues after the ban of tiktok.

I remember when Youtube changed its algorithm many famous youtubers lost their livelihood a very "Uber-ish" situation.

I wonder if people underestimate this digital gig economy..

Lol some of them had 3-5 million followers. They don't know what to do with their lives now. Relying on youtube or tik tok money isn't going to work forever. :inti
 
Since Monday evening, Geet's inbox has been overflowing with messages from anxious followers from all over India.

Geet, who goes by her first name only, says she was taken aback when India banned TikTok and dozens more Chinese-made apps because it said they were a danger to the country.

After all, the former lawyer is now one of India's many TikTok stars, teaching "American English", and giving relationship advice and pep talks to more than 10 million followers on her three channels.

Every day, for the past year, Geet has uploaded 15 videos to her accounts, each usually 20 seconds long. Shooting on her phone and a professional camera, she records up to 120 videos a day to make sure that her larder is never bare. The rest of the week she is busy scripting and editing her videos.

"I was completely taken off guard when the news arrived. I mean, this is my life now. It's my full-time job," she told me.

Her followers are distraught. "How can I learn English any more?" one asked. "Who will motivate me now?" another wrote.

Fuelled by cheap data and a young population, TikTok has picked up some 200 million users in three years in India. The popular mobile app features snappy, shareable videos, often catering to teens and other young people. Using filters, sounds, music and hashtags, young Indians upload songs, dances, pranks, comedy skits, career tips, challenges, language and yoga lessons.

These co-exist with some videos which have featured hate speech, misogyny and casual violence. In some instances, users have been killed or injured trying to record risky stunts, and police have even tracked and arrested gangsters flaunting their lifestyles on the app.

The largely 15-second videos - the app allows videos up to one minute - offer a snapshot into the life and times of young Indians, bristling with ambition and frustration.

"It's endlessly fascinating. A lot of underrepresented people have found a platform here. People with alternative sexualities are expressing themselves freely. Women are asserting themselves. There's a lot of very creative people on the platform," says Amit Varma, a writer and podcaster, who teaches a course on TikTok.

Geet, for example, never dreamt of a life on TikTok. Born in India and raised in Seattle, she studied engineering and worked in a law firm before moving to the Indian capital, Delhi, with her parents to do social work. She says she worked with slum children and high-risk youth until opening a TikTok account in February last year. "TikTok is an extension of what I used to do. Now with a single video message I can reach out to many more people and try to help them," she said.

Most of her clients are very young and aspirational, she says. Many want to learn "American English": one of her popular channels with more than six million followers tries to do that, using Hindi language instructions.

A viral video on this channel shows Geet telling her followers what assorted footwear in her home are called in English: flip flops, loafers, slippers, flats, high heels.

In another, she corrects her mother's pronunciation of words like breakfast, dessert, food, vegetables and pears, using her thick American accent. Another video is about "seven ways to say happy birthday".

"All this is supposed to be snappy, fun and educative," she says.

Her two other channels offer relationship advice and motivational chats to the young, often based on the questions her followers send to her inbox. "The most common question I get is how to cope with a break-up. The next is what to do if my partner is not giving me time. Married folks talk about marital strife and domestic violence."

TikTok, Geet says, has changed the lives of a lot of people she knows. Advertisers woo users who have amassed massive followings. "Many of my friends depend on the app as their primary source of income," she says. "For me, I am just happy if people recognise my work."

An Uber driver in Delhi recognised her once and asked to record a video on his mobile phone giving some advice to his son "who was not studying hard". Another time in a shopping complex, she was accosted by an executive who asked her: "Aren't you the girl who teaches English on TikTok?"

Geet says the app has changed her life. At 10, she suffered a spinal cord injury and has been a wheelchair user since. "It is a very equalising platform. You see a lot of differently abled people on TikTok who have been accepted," she says.

The lockdown to prevent the spread of the coronavirus has been a stressful time for her and her followers. Before the lockdown began in late March, she joined her brother along with her parents in Seattle from where she continues to make videos. To keep her followers engaged, she often streams live and makes videos with games and puzzles. "It's a difficult time," she says.

It got a little more difficult on Monday evening. Geet went live on her channels to placate her anxious followers.

"Don't worry. Don't lose courage. Let's wait. We think the issue will be resolved and we will meet again. Don't lose hope and don't do anything drastic."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53232075
 
Should be banned around the world tbh. There are huge issues with that app.
But who is going to leak Sheikh rashid 's private videos?

Where will we get our constant, never ending supply of cheap til tok "celebrities"
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India packs a 2nd power punch as PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> deletes his own Weibo account. <br><br>Join Rahul Shivshankar on INDIA UPFRONT at 8:25 PM. <a href="https://t.co/S4n1j8g6k4">pic.twitter.com/S4n1j8g6k4</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1278339073883725827?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India packs a 2nd power punch as PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> deletes his own Weibo account. <br><br>Join Rahul Shivshankar on INDIA UPFRONT at 8:25 PM. <a href="https://t.co/S4n1j8g6k4">pic.twitter.com/S4n1j8g6k4</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1278339073883725827?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lol, power punch. The bigot and his illiterate bhakts.
 
So just because he deleted his weibo account, it's a power punch? It's equivalent to the 'blow' he gave to Xi when he didn't wish him his birthday last month.
 
So just because he deleted his weibo account, it's a power punch? It's equivalent to the 'blow' he gave to Xi when he didn't wish him his birthday last month.

Looks like it wasn't all smooth sailing.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-isn-t-easy/story-rL3DYMNPd88Ez5BlYXznRO.html

New Delhi had initially tried to delete PM Modi’s account but it turned out that the Chinese social media platform had a “complex procedure” for VIP accounts, people familiar with the development said.

The government has initiated the process for deletion of the account. “For reasons best known to the Chinese, there was great delay in granting this basic permission,” a government functionary said.
 
I know for a few people here it’s tough to understand how diplomacy or trade or politics work because they live in some medieval fantasy land but “selective” diplomacy is not a unique concept. Ban what hurts China more and leave what hurts India alone. It’s not rocket science and it is not hypocrisy. That’s the way economies and regimes have worked since time immemorial.

Now if China feels this is uncalled for then the ball is in their court to pull funding from Indian companies they are heavily invested in.

Do people really lack common sense?
 
Weibo and Tik Tok ban in response to 20 soldiers killed, shows how much their lives are worth. Chinese army must be laughing.
 
I know for a few people here it’s tough to understand how diplomacy or trade or politics work because they live in some medieval fantasy land but “selective” diplomacy is not a unique concept. Ban what hurts China more and leave what hurts India alone. It’s not rocket science and it is not hypocrisy. That’s the way economies and regimes have worked since time immemorial.

Now if China feels this is uncalled for then the ball is in their court to pull funding from Indian companies they are heavily invested in.

Do people really lack common sense?

20 lives = weibo and tik tok ban?

If India has the coronas it would have retaliated via armed force not this geeky gay response. :dhoni
 
20 lives = weibo and tik tok ban?

If India has the coronas it would have retaliated via armed force not this geeky gay response. :dhoni

I know you have been told fighting with the sword is the only macho thing but world has changed since then. There are plenty of ways to fight a war in 2020, some 500+ years since it was cool to ride a horse and swing a sword.

You seem to have a misguided understanding of what is gay or straight.
 
I know you have been told fighting with the sword is the only macho thing but world has changed since then. There are plenty of ways to fight a war in 2020, some 500+ years since it was cool to ride a horse and swing a sword.

You seem to have a misguided understanding of what is gay or straight.

The world has changed :)))

Your army would love to do the same to the Chinese but you simply cant. Come on Pakistan taught you a lesson , China is on another level.

Please ban Chinese mobiles too. :)
 
The world has changed :)))

Your army would love to do the same to the Chinese but you simply cant. Come on Pakistan taught you a lesson , China is on another level.

Please ban Chinese mobiles too. :)

Flash news: to answer your first point. unfortunately it has. I do miss a lot of things from medieval times as well. I mean I would have loved to have this conversation with you through a human messenger or a pigeon (I am sure they are still used in Pakistan) but we have to use this evil haraam phone on the internet which is filled with a lot of haraam but at times fun things.
 
Flash news: to answer your first point. unfortunately it has. I do miss a lot of things from medieval times as well. I mean I would have loved to have this conversation with you through a human messenger or a pigeon (I am sure they are still used in Pakistan) but we have to use this evil haraam phone on the internet which is filled with a lot of haraam but at times fun things.

Dont worry about haraam , worry about halal methods.

If Chinese kill 100 Indian troops next, India will ban Bruce Lee films. :)))
 
Dont worry about haraam , worry about halal methods.

If Chinese kill 100 Indian troops next, India will ban Bruce Lee films. :)))

So you still believe that there was 0 casualty from Chinese side. May be that’s not a good thing because the surplus soldiers left alive will be used in feeding Chinese Muslims pork and alcohol. Then again who cares right ? (Sarcasm)
 
So you still believe that there was 0 casualty from Chinese side. May be that’s not a good thing because the surplus soldiers left alive will be used in feeding Chinese Muslims pork and alcohol. Then again who cares right ? (Sarcasm)

No answer? Ill ask again, If Chinese take out 100 Indian soldiers in this new world of yours, India will ban Chinese food and chopstix? :))

More Indians were killed, you took the brunt of the beating, a hiding as we say in the UK.
 
I know you have been told fighting with the sword is the only macho thing but world has changed since then. There are plenty of ways to fight a war in 2020, some 500+ years since it was cool to ride a horse and swing a sword.

You seem to have a misguided understanding of what is gay or straight.

World has changed in one year? From surgical strikes to banning apps as a revenge? :inti
 
No answer? Ill ask again, If Chinese take out 100 Indian soldiers in this new world of yours, India will ban Chinese food and chopstix? :))

More Indians were killed, you took the brunt of the beating, a hiding as we say in the UK.

Message is pretty clear for all our enemies. If our enemy is 1/4th or 1/10th our size we will attack them with surgical strikes and if our enemy is bigger than us we will attack them with digital strikes. :genius :inti
 

lol harsh, so many Indians eat noodles. Kung Fu Panda will be happy, more for him. :inzi

Message is pretty clear for all our enemies. If our enemy is 1/4th or 1/10th our size we will attack them with surgical strikes and if our enemy is bigger than us we will attack them with digital strikes. :genius :inti

Nepal will face a strong backlash then. :inti
 
So China kills 20 indian soliders and captures indian territory and india retaliates by banning Chinese mobile apps :)))

Must be the first such retaliation by any country, bravo india.
 
So you still believe that there was 0 casualty from Chinese side. May be that’s not a good thing because the surplus soldiers left alive will be used in feeding Chinese Muslims pork and alcohol. Then again who cares right ? (Sarcasm)

Phir wohi, khissyani Billi khumba noche

Seeing is believing, the whole world saw Abhinandan slapped and dragged around, whole world saw Body bags of indian soldiers arriving from Laddakh and other prisoners of war released from Chinese custody.

In return all India has is Arnab Goswami show and delusional Internet trolls barking at everyone who doesn’t want to believe in their version of story.
 
I know for a few people here it’s tough to understand how diplomacy or trade or politics work because they live in some medieval fantasy land but “selective” diplomacy is not a unique concept. Ban what hurts China more and leave what hurts India alone. It’s not rocket science and it is not hypocrisy. That’s the way economies and regimes have worked since time immemorial.

Now if China feels this is uncalled for then the ball is in their court to pull funding from Indian companies they are heavily invested in.

Do people really lack common sense?

Yes only you have common sense. Therefore:

Care to explain:
- Why are the indians limiting the ban to these apps only, why not boycott everything that’s made in China?
- Why not exert pressure through those CEOs and the lobbyists in Washington DC?
- Why not ask your traditional ally Russia to jump in?
- Why not expel the Chinese ambassador?
- Why not just retaliate with some able bodies soldiers this time to re-claim the lost territory? (Or are there none)
 
The people going gaga over banning these apps to "punish/ slap/ hurt" China must have pretty low self esteem because its not an achievment of any sort.
 
World has changed in one year? From surgical strikes to banning apps as a revenge? :inti

Firstly, lets keep aside the debate if Surgical strikes happened or not. Whatever the case maybe, they were neither against the common man of Pakistan or neither was it a direct declaration of war on Pakistan army or its government.

The common theme was “Jihadis/ terrorist” camps were targeted/destroyed. Read a paper or pick up a book once in a while.

Now on paper is this any different from American Marines killing OBL on Pakistan soil. was that a war on Pak army/ Pak government?

Now if you believe that OBL was an angel or if the above really happened that’s once again is a different debate.

Coming to this scenario. This was an act of war by China because they entered our territory with an expansionist mindset.

Now should we or can we fight China? I honestly don’t know our capabilities.

That’s for the government and army to figure out along with a 1000 other caveats that could arise due to world diplomacy etc . Is it not?

Now Could this be a gimmick from the government?

Sure, Viewing from the outside it could be a possibility.

Next, will they put their own economy at risk by risking their own companies that might have Chinese investment?
I don’t think they are that dumb. I don’t know what you think about the Modi’s cabinet but I am sure there are 100’s of super smart people with way higher iq than you and me working under them.

I mean you can appreciate Indian education system at least that much right?

Now do you think the government is under public pressure to show something and could this have been the best possible scenario?

Absolutely, Public Pressure part is a no brainer.

Coming to the 2nd part ,I can’t say with absolute confidence If this is the best possible scenario but do you think this could have been among the best available options? If not what do you think should or could have been the other options?

Finally, does this have 0 impact on China or is this totally pointless?

Firstly, Chinese culture when it comes to trade is ruthless. Try bargaining in China town if you ever get a chance to visit one. They wouldn’t like to lose out on $1 leave alone at a time TikTok was going to be the hottest IPO releasing on the US stock market while most of its active user base probably comes from India.

I am surprised I have to explain all this to a fellow Indian or (since I am no longer Indian because I live in the US according to you) or as a fellow Indian origin guy who lived 60% of my life there.

This isn’t about Modi or Congress. can we at-least think for ourselves first before we blindly get into the political rhetoric.
 
Phir wohi, khissyani Billi khumba noche

Seeing is believing, the whole world saw Abhinandan slapped and dragged around, whole world saw Body bags of indian soldiers arriving from Laddakh and other prisoners of war released from Chinese custody.

That's because we're not cowards like a few other banana republics and communist propaganda states who have to hide casualties to save face that too by giving pathetic excuses like "to not spoil the public mood, tHiS iS a nObEl gEsTuRe" etc.

And when did the Indian army give any statement about the prisoners of war. It's funny really.....

Indian media says 43 Chinese soldiers died according to sources -

"Nah. Indian media are lying. They're trying to save face bla bla bla."

Indian media says 10 POWs came back according to sources.

Wow. That must be the ultimate truth of all time. Let's jump on that.

:))

The mental gymnastics here just amuse me.
 
New Delhi: Union Minister Ravi Shankar Prasad has said India's surprise move to ban 59 Chinese apps days after a violent face-off between Indian and Chinese soldiers in eastern Ladakh was a "digital strike".

"We banned Chinese apps to protect data of countrymen; it was a digital strike," Mr Prasad said at a BJP rally in West Bengal today, news agency Press Trust of India reported.

"India is for peace, but if somebody casts an evil eye we will give a befitting reply," the Law, Communications, Electronics and Information Technology Minister said, echoing a similar statement that Prime Minister Narendra Modi made last week on the India-China border tension.

A section of the media had called India move's to ban the Chinese apps, including the wildly popular TikTok, a "digital airstrike" in allusion to India bombing a camp of the terror group Jaish-e-Mohammed in Pakistan's Balakot in February last year.

Apart from TikTok, the other 58 apps with Chinese links blocked by the government include WeChat and UC Browser. The Indian government's TikTok account MyGov, which had 1.1 million followers, has been disabled.

Sina Weibo, China's answer to Twitter, has deleted Prime Minister Narendra Modi's account at the request of the Indian embassy. Two posts could still not be deleted because they featured PM Modi's photos with Chinese President Xi Jinping. The Chinese app cannot delete photos of their President easily, people with direct knowledge of the matter told NDTV.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/blo...-news-agency-pti-2255725?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
TikTok CEO's Message To India Employees After Government Blocks App

New Delhi: The CEO of TikTok has written a letter to employees in India of the Chinese video-sharing app that was among 59 apps banned by the Indian government, amid a huge economic backlash against China following the June 15 clashes in eastern Ladakh's Galwan Valley in which 20 soldiers laid down their lives for India.

"At TikTok, our efforts are guided by our commitment to democratizing the internet. To a large extent, we believe we have been successful in this effort… However, we stay resolved and committed to our mission, and are working with stakeholders to address their concerns. TikTok continues to comply with all data privacy and security requirements under Indian law and places the highest importance on user privacy and integrity," Kevin Mayer, TikTok chief executive and the chief operations officer of ByteDance, which owns the video-sharing app, said in a post on the company website.

In the post titled "A message to our employees in India", Mr Mayer said, "Since 2018, we have worked hard to ensure that over 200 million users in India are able to express their joy and creativity, celebrate self-expression, and share experiences with a growing global community."

"Our employees are our biggest strength, and their well-being is our topmost priority. We have also assured more than 2,000 strong workforce that we will do everything in our power to restore the positive experiences and opportunities that they can be proud of," the TikTok CEO said, amid concerns over job security of its employees in India.

"We have been heartened and encouraged by your love and support for our platform, and promise to live up to the trust and faith you have showed in us. We look forward to continue playing an active role in the mainframe of Digital India," Mr Mayer said.

"TikTok has enabled hundreds of millions of users to enjoy the creative works of artists, storytellers, educators and performers from across the country who have forged new avenues of livelihood improvement. While sharing their skills and talents on a global stage, these performers, artists and entertainers have received opportunities for brand promotions and associations that were once considered the exclusive domain of film stars and sports celebrities. Today, it is a staple and reality for TikTok users even in remote cities, towns and villages across the country," Mr Mayer said.

Apart from TikTok, the other 58 apps with Chinese links blocked by the government include WeChat and UC Browser. Sources said inputs from intelligence agencies suggested that the apps have been violating the terms of usage, compromising users privacy, and being used as spyware or malware. Within minutes of the announcement, the Indian government's TikTok account MyGov, which had 1.1 million followers, was disabled.

The move also comes a day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi said India has given a "befitting response" to China. He also spoke of the countrywide call for boycott of Chinese goods, juxtaposing it against the government's "Atma Nirbhar Bharat" campaign. "We will buy local and be vocal for local and this will help India become stronger," he said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tik...employees-after-government-blocks-app-2255067
 
China hopes India corrects actions against Chinese firms immediately

China's commerce ministry said on Thursday that it hopes India would correct its discriminatory actions against Chinese companies immediately after India banned Chinese mobile apps amid a border crisis between the two countries.

China has not adopted any restrictive or discriminatory measures against Indian products and services, Ministry of Commerce spokesman Gao Feng told reporters in an online briefing, adding that India's actions are in violation of World Trade Organisation rules.

Earlier this week, India banned 59 Chinese mobile apps, including the wildly popular TikTok and WeChat, citing national security and privacy concerns just weeks after a deadly Himalayan border clash between the nuclear-armed neighbours.

An estimated 120 million Indians were TikTok users before the ban.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1566560/c...cts-actions-against-chinese-firms-immediately
 
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Even after this our trader mentality doesn't improve then it never will but not sure what we can even do.
 
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Even after this our trader mentality doesn't improve then it never will but not sure what we can even do.

Whatever is good in the country is because of the trader mentality. Otherwise too many jazbaatis who can't see the bigger picture.
 
Geetha Sridhar never used to enter her kitchen in Mumbai without her smartphone. The 54-year-old homemaker used to post dozens of short videos daily on the Chinese video app TikTok, mostly of herself cooking traditional recipes.

With one million TikTok followers, she earned an average of 50,000 rupees ($662) a month from companies who paid her to use their products.

For thousands of Indian content creators like Sridhar, TikTok was a window into fame and fortune. But on Tuesday, the app, owned by China's ByteDance, went blank on phones across India after the government banned it along with 58 other Chinese-origin apps which it considered a threat to national sovereignty.

The move came weeks after a deadly skirmish between Indian and Chinese soldiers along the disputed Himalayan border.

"TikTok made me strong and confident. I started wearing Western clothes, dancing on the streets ... I am disappointed," Sridhar said.

TikTok was a sensation in India. With more than 600 million downloads, India accounted for 30 percent of its two billion downloads worldwide. ByteDance planned to invest $1bn in India, its top growth market where it employs 2,000 people.

Jokes, dance clips
Unlike Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, TikTok found resonance in India's hinterland as well as its cities, thanks to its less elaborate user interface, background music options and various special effects.

Users - who ranged from top Bollywood stars to people in remote villages who became mini-celebrities - posted a wide variety of content, though jokes, dance clips and videos related to India's thriving movie industry dominated the platform.

Vishal Pandey, 22, had nearly 17 million followers on TikTok and used the platform to regularly post videos - everything from dancing to short humorous acting sketches. His popularity on the platform had helped him secure acting offers for some movies, he said.

"TikTok opened so many doors for me. Instead of having to line up outside auditions, I got calls from casting agents saying 'Can you please work in our web series'," Pandey said.

"Right now, there is absolutely no app that can compare to TikTok. None," he added.

After India imposed the ban but just before the app went blank, many TikTok users posted videos expressing their displeasure. Some told their followers to track their future posts on YouTube or Instagram.

Indian video-creation apps like Roposo, described on Google's app store as "India's own video app", and another named Chingari are likely to see a popularity surge after the TikTok ban.

But some users say they will continue to miss TikTok.

Indian student Siri Challa, 23, had only recently started posting videos of her mother and herself dancing to catchy songs on TikTok. In less than three months, she garnered one million followers and a promotion deal with a beauty brand.

"I'm going to miss it, but I guess it is time to move on," Challa said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/...ators-earnings-prospects-200701161927186.html
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I suspect this comment might well be the most effective & motivating rallying cry that India Inc. has ever received. Thank you for the provocation. We will rise to the occasion...���� <a href="https://t.co/LZbQhS8xVW">https://t.co/LZbQhS8xVW</a></p>— anand mahindra (@anandmahindra) <a href="https://twitter.com/anandmahindra/status/1277939258322370560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Even after this our trader mentality doesn't improve then it never will but not sure what we can even do.
It's a low blow, but factually said. No wonder, our universities are so low in international rankings.
 
Speaking of rankings, this stand will take us nowhere.

https://theprint.in/india/education...tive-for-india-times-higher-education/451052/

This takes the cake especially coming from no less than our HRD minister.

However, international rankings such as THE and QS have come in for criticism from the Government of India, with Human Resource Development Minister Ramesh Pokhriyal ‘Nishank’ saying they lay too much emphasis on perception.

“Times and QS ranking downgrade our institutions on the basis of perception, I do not agree with that. Our institutions are doing a lot of good research, we cannot be judged only on the basis of perception,” he had said, while releasing India’s own institutional rankings, NIRF.
 
Will we ever get an sane and educated HRD minister under these illiterate sanghis?
 
Social media app TikTok has distanced itself from Beijing after India banned 59 Chinese apps in the country, according to a correspondence seen by the Reuters news agency.

In a letter to the Indian government dated June 28 and seen by Reuters on Friday, TikTok Chief Executive Kevin Mayer said the Chinese government has never requested user data, nor would the company turn it over if asked.

TikTok, which is not available in China, is owned by China's ByteDance but has sought to distance itself from its Chinese roots to appeal to a global audience.

Along with 58 other Chinese apps, including Tencent Holdings Ltd's WeChat and Alibaba Group Holding Ltd's UC Browser, it was banned in India this week following a border clash with China.


Teen uses TikTok to raise awareness on Uighurs
"I can confirm that the Chinese government has never made a request to us for the TikTok data of Indian users," Mayer wrote, adding that data for Indian users is stored in servers in Singapore.


"If we do ever receive such a request in the future, we would not comply."

The letter was sent in advance of a likely meeting next week between the company and the Indian government, one source familiar with the matter told Reuters.

Ban unlikely to be lifted
One government source told Reuters this week the ban was unlikely to be revoked soon.

Lawyers have said a legal challenge was unlikely to be successful, given India has cited national security concerns for the ban.

The ban, which upset India's growing legion of TikTok stars, has also given a lift to local rivals such as Roposo, which added 22 million new users in the 48 hours after the ban took effect.

TikTok has committed to spend $1bn in the region.


Since its launch in 2017, it has become one of the fastest-growing social media apps. India was its largest market by user base, followed by the United States.

In the letter, Mayer played up the company's investment in the region, highlighting more than 3,500 direct and indirect employees and content available in 14 languages.

"The privacy of our users, and the security and sovereignty of India, are of utmost importance to us," Mayer wrote. "We have already announced our plans to build a data centre in India."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...g-response-india-app-ban-200704070431391.html
 
I am expecting Jio to come up with alternatives of these apps now. JioMeet will be the first one.

Won't be surprised if all this was done by Modi to help his friend Mukesh Ambani. Ofcourse indians won't mind Reliance sharing their data with advertisers to spam their inbox and phones because it will be by an Indian company. :inti
 
Has anyone seen the interface of JioMeet? It has almost exactly same look as Zoom. Copied and pasted.
 
India’s trade deficit with China dips to $48.66 billion in FY20

India’s trade deficit with China fell to $48.66 billion in 2019-20 on account of the decline in imports from the neighbouring country, according to government data.

Exports to China in the last financial year stood at $16.6 billion, while imports aggregated at $65.26 billion, the data showed. The trade deficit stood at $53.56 billion in 2018-19 and $63 billion in 2017-18.

https://www.thehindu.com/business/E...s-to-4866-billion-in-fy20/article31973598.ece

Looks like ban on chinese products and imports is already showing good results. However, we must not be satisfied until this deficit changes into surplus.

Good to see Chinese FDI has dipped to $163.78 million in 2019-20 from $229 million in the previous fiscal.
 
Tik Tok should be banned in the whole world to save the young generation from dumbing down.
 
You can't ban apps in this world. People will find ways to use them through alternaive way. By the way I laughed a lot when I heard about Digital Surgical Strike.
 
TikTok has said it will quit Hong Kong after China imposed a new security law on the city.

"In light of recent events, we've decided to stop operations of the TikTok app in Hong Kong," a spokesman told the BBC.

The company's exit from the city will come "within days," according to the Reuters news agency.

Facebook and Twitter said this week they were "pausing" co-operation with Hong Kong police over user information.

The short-form video app was launched by China-based ByteDance for users outside mainland China as part of a strategy to grow its global audience.

The tech company operates a similar short video sharing app in China called Douyin.

TikTok, now run by former Walt Disney executive Kevin Mayer, has said in the past that the app's user data is not stored in China.

The company has also said previously that it would not comply with any Chinese government requests to censor content or give access to its users' data, nor has it ever been asked to do so.

However, the controversial national security law in Hong Kong has given Chinese authorities sweeping new powers, raising concerns about data privacy.

The legislation punishes what China describes broadly as secession, subversion, terrorism and collusion with foreign forces, with up to life in prison.

Critics say it erodes Hong Kong's freedoms as a semi-autonomous region, including freedom of speech.

Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter, Google and Telegram have all announced this week that they are also making changes to their operations in Hong Kong after the new security law came into force last week.

The tech firms have said they are not processing data requests from the Hong Kong police while they assess the ongoing political changes in the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53317015
 
Nobody can beat us in copying and pasting. :inti

Zoom isn't the pioneer, long before zoom, teams, skype, webex and many more had video conferencing facilities, free or on trial basis. MSN, Yahoo always offered chat even when whatsapp founders were in their schools.

With mobile first approach and the need to work toghether across the geography and all Dominoes to function toghether, there's an evolution happened.

Zoom bettered the communication model. Jio followed the path. What is the problem? UI/UX? The bubbles representing categories aren't the one used million times by the developers, widely available in places like iconfinder?

The icicing on the cake will happen, if it happens, when Zoom loses its pick valuation and Jiomeet just by reach and network infuses billion+ dollars from new and existing investors.
 
Zoom isn't the pioneer, long before zoom, teams, skype, webex and many more had video conferencing facilities, free or on trial basis. MSN, Yahoo always offered chat even when whatsapp founders were in their schools.

With mobile first approach and the need to work toghether across the geography and all Dominoes to function toghether, there's an evolution happened.

Zoom bettered the communication model. Jio followed the path. What is the problem? UI/UX? The bubbles representing categories aren't the one used million times by the developers, widely available in places like iconfinder?

The icicing on the cake will happen, if it happens, when Zoom loses its pick valuation and Jiomeet just by reach and network infuses billion+ dollars from new and existing investors.

Yes you are right .. I have been using zoom for few years even before pandemic since we deal with them at work . The creators of zoom worked at webex before they went their separate ways and started zoom. In fact the initial funding came from an Indian American called Iyar who was co founder of webex before being acquired by Cisco. zoom has its roots from webex.
Although jiomeet is very similar to zoom but it’s backend , quality of service and user base that will be differential factor not some UIs.if it’s user friendly that’s enough
 
Yes you are right .. I have been using zoom for few years even before pandemic since we deal with them at work . The creators of zoom worked at webex before they went their separate ways and started zoom. In fact the initial funding came from an Indian American called Iyar who was co founder of webex before being acquired by Cisco. zoom has its roots from webex.
Although jiomeet is very similar to zoom but it’s backend , quality of service and user base that will be differential factor not some UIs.if it’s user friendly that’s enough

There are two types of people in the world.

1. Who tries to find a solution for a problem.

2. Who always complaints no matter what.

If Jio meet and zoom shares same code branch, zoom will sue Jio.
 
There are two types of people in the world.

1. Who tries to find a solution for a problem.

2. Who always complaints no matter what.

If Jio meet and zoom shares same code branch, zoom will sue Jio.

Zoom is not open source. And if their code branch is for everyone to see it’s even a bigger issue for zoom LoL ..
 
Apparently, Gujarat has signed three major MoUs in the last five years involving Rs 43,000-crore investment, which includes an industrial park for Chinese SMEs (small and medium enterprises).

Business has not stopped in the last 20 days and cargo flights continue to operate between the two countries.
 
Now beat this. So banning these apps was yet another jumla, bigot's home state still has flourishing business with the Chinese firms.

Lol, what a lame duck dispensation we have.
 
Now beat this. So banning these apps was yet another jumla, bigot's home state still has flourishing business with the Chinese firms.

Lol, what a lame duck dispensation we have.

Lol Modi knows the IQ level of his bhakhts. Nobody will dare to question that. If they do they will be asked to move to Pakistan. :viru
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: TikTok will exit the Hong Kong market within days, a spokesman told Reuters as other technology companies including Facebook have suspended processing government requests for user data in the region <a href="https://t.co/PwQ4ujCz10">https://t.co/PwQ4ujCz10</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/DEER_ECHO_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DEER_ECHO_</a> <a href="https://t.co/EawMRwIs2b">pic.twitter.com/EawMRwIs2b</a></p>— Reuters Tech News (@ReutersTech) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReutersTech/status/1280362181889069056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Zoom is not open source. And if their code branch is for everyone to see it’s even a bigger issue for zoom LoL ..

Closed source doesn't mean you can't decrypt. It just means do you see enough benefits in the effort and the outcome.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: TikTok will exit the Hong Kong market within days, a spokesman told Reuters as other technology companies including Facebook have suspended processing government requests for user data in the region <a href="https://t.co/PwQ4ujCz10">https://t.co/PwQ4ujCz10</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/DEER_ECHO_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DEER_ECHO_</a> <a href="https://t.co/EawMRwIs2b">pic.twitter.com/EawMRwIs2b</a></p>— Reuters Tech News (@ReutersTech) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReutersTech/status/1280362181889069056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I am pretty sure they will make a comeback into Indian market once again. Didn't Tik Tok donate Rs 100 crores something to PM Cares fund? Have we returned their money yet? :inti
 
Closed source doesn't mean you can't decrypt. It just means do you see enough benefits in the effort and the outcome.

It’s not decrypt you reverse engineer it. Understand the difference. I was referring to your same code branch statement. there are no code branches of zoom lying out there in www so that others can get sued by using it. Wierd
China does all sorts of reverse engineer and clone every technology, and this has been happening from decades.
 
I am pretty sure they will make a comeback into Indian market once again. Didn't Tik Tok donate Rs 100 crores something to PM Cares fund? Have we returned their money yet? :inti

It’s called donation not a loan. Have you ever done any donation in any scale to your local society or may be an orphanage?. Looks like you only about debts and loans.
 
Trump Says He’s Considering a Ban on TikTok in the U.S.

President Donald Trump said his administration is considering banning the short video app TikTok in the U.S. as one possible way to retaliate against China over its handling of the coronavirus.

Trump’s comments on Tuesday came one day after Secretary of State Michael Pompeo said officials were looking at barring the app, whose parent company is China’s ByteDance Ltd.

“It’s something we’re looking at, yes,” Trump said when asked in an interview with Gray Television’s Greta Van Susteren about Pompeo’s remarks. “It’s a big business. Look, what happened with China with this virus, what they’ve done to this country and to the entire world is disgraceful.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...reatens-to-ban-social-app?utm_source=url_link
 
It’s called donation not a loan. Have you ever done any donation in any scale to your local society or may be an orphanage?. Looks like you only about debts and loans.
Oh here comes the personal remark. Now don't complain if I give it back. Do you want me to disclose what I donate here in order to ask a question lol?

Anyway I was expecting a reply like that from one of the hypocrites like you. Yeah it was a donation but TikTok isn't asking its money back.

Isn't it our 'farz' to throw that money back on to their face because their country killed our soldiers? It's called self respect which I don't think people with a 'bhukkad' mentality can ever understand. :inti
 
Chinese app ban: India asks court to stymie potential challenge

NEW DELHI: India's government has petitioned a state court to stop any of the Chinese companies whose 59 apps it recently banned from obtaining an injunction to block the order, according to two sources and the legal filing.

India last month outlawed dozens of Chinese apps including ByteDance's popular video-sharing app TikTok, Alibaba's UC Browser and Tencent's messaging app WeChat, saying they posed a "threat to sovereignty and integrity".

Chinese firms have faced hostility since a border clash that killed 20 Indian soldiers, with Delhi intensifying scrutiny of Chinese imports and any funding from China.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the filing said the government had presented a so-called caveat in the High Court of the western state of Rajasthan, suggesting it expects one or more of the companies to challenge the Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology's ban.

Such caveats are typically filed to prevent a ruling in favour of companies without hearing the government, Indian lawyers said. The filing, which one of the sources said was presented on Friday, has not previously been reported.

"Let nothing be done till the applicants (government) are heard in the matter," said the court filing signed by Additional Solicitor General of India Rajdeepak Rastogi.

GUARDING CYBER SPACE

The order to ban the apps was passed to safeguard "the interests of Indian mobile and Internet users and ensure safety and sovereignty of Indian Cyber Space," said the filing, which was seen by Reuters.

It was not immediately clear why the government approached the court in Rajasthan and whether there were plans to file similar petitions elsewhere.

India's IT ministry and the Chinese Embassy in New Delhi did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Indian courts do not comment on cases.

Previously, China has expressed strong concern about the ban, which could hurt expansion plans and cost jobs, and pointed out it will violate World Trade Organization (WTO) rules.

None of the Chinese companies has yet mounted a legal challenge, with industry sources saying they were waiting for further clarity from the Indian government.

India's IT ministry recently asked the companies associated with the 59 apps to answer a detailed questionnaire within three weeks on their business structure and data storage practices, the industry sources told Reuters.

The decision to ban the apps has jolted companies like ByteDance, which counted on India as an important growth market for TikTok and had plans to invest $1 billion in the country.
https://www.brecorder.com/news/4000...ndia-asks-court-to-stymie-potential-challenge
 
Oh here comes the personal remark. Now don't complain if I give it back. Do you want me to disclose what I donate here in order to ask a question lol?

Anyway I was expecting a reply like that from one of the hypocrites like you. Yeah it was a donation but TikTok isn't asking its money back.

Isn't it our 'farz' to throw that money back on to their face because their country killed our soldiers? It's called self respect which I don't think people with a 'bhukkad' mentality can ever understand. :inti

LoL who asked you the details of donation. Go and report to authorities in your country . A simple no or yes is answer . dont over complicate simple things. The donation by organisations incl TikTok was done for a different reason ie. fight covid. Ur suggestion of throwing the money back makes no sense.
 
LoL who asked you the details of donation. Go and report to authorities in your country . A simple no or yes is answer . dont over complicate simple things. The donation by organisations incl TikTok was done for a different reason ie. fight covid. Ur suggestion of throwing the money back makes no sense.

But why should I even answer in 'yes' or 'no' to a troll like you? Who are you lol? Me donating has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Coming back to giving money back to tiktok. As I said earlier, it's all about self respect which people with 'bhukkad' mentality won't understand. We want to ban chinese apps and hurt them but will gladly accept donation from one of their companies. Hypocrisy at it's best. :inti
 
But why should I even answer in 'yes' or 'no' to a troll like you? Who are you lol? Me donating has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Coming back to giving money back to tiktok. As I said earlier, it's all about self respect which people with 'bhukkad' mentality won't understand. We want to ban chinese apps and hurt them but will gladly accept donation from one of their companies. Hypocrisy at it's best. :inti

what China do is hypocrisy. they want trade and technological knowledge from other countries. And then threaten those same countries. anyway many countries have started closing the doors on them technologically and they are resorting to desperate cyberattacks
Anyway apps are banned and China has retreated back to their holes, so I will just leave this thread to rot LoL
 
When India banned TikTok, it closed a window to the wider world that provided fun, fame and even a bit of fortune for many women outside the big cities.

The government outlawed the video-sharing platform, and 58 other mostly Chinese apps, this month, citing data security fears.

TikTok is also reportedly under greater scrutiny elsewhere including in the United States, Pakistan and Australia.

'Before TikTok, I didn't have confidence'
Married soon after she completed college, 27-year-old stay-at-home mother Mamta Verma lives in a small town in Madhya Pradesh state.

One day, her daughter got her to install TikTok on her phone to watch the zany videos uploaded from across what used to be the app's biggest international market.

Instagram and YouTube are for "the big people", Verma told AFP news agency by phone, but TikTok she liked.

She started to record and upload videos of her own. "I started with five likes on my first video. That was a big boost for me," Verma said.

Soon, she had more than a million followers and was earning about 4,000 rupees ($50) per video with her slick robot dance routines shot at home.

"It's not a lot, but my earnings from TikTok helped in running the house and also in managing finances for the new house. You know even 10 rupees is a huge amount for us," she said.

But it was about more than just the money.

"Before TikTok, I didn't have the confidence to talk to people. I would just do my work and, as a stay-at-home wife, I never made eye contact with people or even spoke much," Verma said.

'Glass ceiling-breaker'
Speaking a vast number of languages and dialects, approximately 70 percent of India's 1.3 billion people live in rural areas, a world away from big cities such as Mumbai and New Delhi.

Amitabh Kumar from Social Media Matters, a group encouraging "social media for social change", said for many of these people, TikTok was a "glass ceiling-breaker".

"Instead of Bollywood and rich people, finally there was a chance for common people to create something in 15 seconds which makes you laugh or cry or think or engage," he told AFP.

Its tools were simple to use for those who do not speak or read English or Hindi, and the app worked well on low-speed internet.

"Twitter cracked the short-form storytelling in text - with 140 and then 280 [characters]. I think TikTok did it with 15 seconds," he added.

And it reminded the urban dwellers of India's vast diversity and chasmic differences in wealth.

"What we, people sitting in Delhi, probably judged and made fun of was high-class entertainment for a lot of people who never got a chance to express themselves," he said.

"Here was, for the first time, a space that rural India was enjoying."

Another TikTok star was Rupali Manoj Bhandole, 29, a housewife and mother who left school at 14 and lives in a small town in Maharashtra state that gets piped water for an hour a day and endures frequent power cuts.

She would upload videos of herself poking fun at her weak economic status - and soon amassed 300,000 followers.

"A person who works with a Marathi TV show called me a star... I can't tell you how happy I felt," she told AFP. "I only studied until Class 9. I'm not a big person."

Bhandole said she wept when TikTok was banned.

Archana Arvind Dhormise hopes the benefits she derived from the platform will last.

The 35-year-old from Pimpalgaon in Maharashtra seldom left home for fear of censure from her conservative family and neighbours.

But then the home beautician became the "Rani Mukherji of TikTok" - a reference to a famous Bollywood actress - dancing and miming to famous songs, and gaining 75,000 fans.

She won a local competition for one of her TikTok videos. Now she has landed a part in a short film.

"I had never in my life gone up on stage and spoken or even initiated a conversation without having a million thoughts in my head," Dhormise told AFP.

"But being on TikTok and seeing all the love I was getting gave me the confidence to keep that going, and also be confident in the real world."

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...00722050205038.html?__twitter_impression=true
 
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