India has now a better W/L ratio in ODI cricket compared to Pakistan

[Mr. Cricket]

96 WC you got knocked out in QF
2003 WC you got knocked out in group stage itself
2007 : The T20 WC Final ... did you forget that??
2011: You got knocked out in SF
2014: T20 got knocked out in group stage itself
2016: T20 got knocked out in group stage itself

You have been knocked and spanked by India so often in ICC tournaments that your memory has gone fuzzy

Lol you hit the right spot. We humiliated them in WC . Some people post without fact to make mockery of themselves.

 

[Tridibans_16]

Surprise the gap is still not huge we can be back to top .

On the contrary pakistan have better w/L ratio than india in test the format alot of indian fans care since india become number 1 in test.

Well the reason is that India was minnow level in 1980s to 2001 in tests. We won like 4 tests and lost 20 away from home.

Since ganguly took over, we are the best tesm in terms of w/l across formats and winning trophies. SA has better w/l but is yet to win anything of global importance.

Consider this, after winning a test in England in 1985, we next won a test in SENAW countries in 2001. Beat that. 16 years without a single test win in Aus/ SA/ Eng/ NZ/ WI.

Since 2001, we have won 16 tests in the same countries and won series in ENG (2007), AUS (2018), NZ (2009), WI (2006, 2011, 2016). Only in SA we haven't won (drew 1-1 in 2010). Not to mention we have lost JUST 2 series at home. That is a stellar record to say the least.

 

[Tridibans_16]

Exactly! Out of those 11 victories, how many resulted in Pakistan being knocked out or India winning the WC? Its even funnier because in those 11, they also count the 92 victory ) And they have the nerve to talk about 'meaningful' victories.

You crazy bro? Or are you a 16 year old

Its like 30 years we have been knocking you out of World Cups (be it 50overs or 20 overs). You just won a CT (ot even a T20 World cup) and is going gaga over it.

1996 knocked your ATG team in QF.
2003 Knocked you out in Group stages.
2007 Beat you in WORLD CUP Final
2011 Knocked you out in SF.

That is proper ownage right there. You can keep all the Panmasala/ Pan bahar/ Toothpaste cups in Sharjah/ UAE, I will take 11-0 in world cups anyday of the week.

 

[leg-side-flick]

To be honest, I think Indians are slowly but surely moving to football and who knows maybe in another ten years, we may have football overtaking cricket locally.... Although we might still have a lot of players for cricket but the talent pool will reduce substantially

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Losing to Pak in the final, SA and England test and beating the weakest Aus team in history is a golden era?

India have played 50+ more matches in this time and have just edged ahead by a fraction.

I have no doubt in a decade Pakistan will be ahead again because Indians produce a decent bowler once in a blue moon.

Golden era don't mean the team wont lose any matches. The standout team of a particular era is called the team having a golden era. India is no doubt the stand out team at present. Pakistan never was a standout team in any generation and was always unpredictable. Hence their trophy cabinet/achievements were so less even during 80s-90s.

India has not edged a fraction but have grounded Pakistan cricket to the dust. The h2h record in this decade in 11-5 in India favor. Not only h2h but Indian team/BCCI has left Pak cricket in every possible angle.

On your last para, we have to wait and see what happens in 1 decade. I like you (fake) optimism but signs are not great.

 

[BlackShadow]

A better team overall. More World Cups, more trophies, so about time stats showed that.

 

[saeed5646]

Golden era don't mean the team wont lose any matches. The standout team of a particular era is called the team having a golden era. India is no doubt the stand out team at present. Pakistan never was a standout team in any generation and was always unpredictable. Hence their trophy cabinet/achievements were so less even during 80s-90s.

India has not edged a fraction but have grounded Pakistan cricket to the dust. The h2h record in this decade in 11-5 in India favor. Not only h2h but Indian team/BCCI has left Pak cricket in every possible angle.

On your last para, we have to wait and see what happens in 1 decade. I like you (fake) optimism but signs are not great.

Matter of one decent year for pak odi team to back to top at better than india w.r.t w/L

No comments about test formatW/L ratio .if pakistan play next 100 test and win only 14 out of them they will then match current india w/L ratio ☺.if you can have 30 years of medicorty in cricket we can bear atleast 5 years.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Matter of one decent year for pak odi team to back to top at better than india w.r.t w/L

No comments about test formatW/L ratio .if pakistan play next 100 test and win only 14 out of them they will then match current india w/L ratio ☺.if you can have 30 years of medicorty in cricket we can bear atleast 5 years.

I don’t think you understand how ratios work.

If Pakistan play 100 tests and win only 14 that means they must have lost 60-70 at least which adds to the denominator making Pakistan have a w/l ratio below Sri Lanka etc.

And Pakistan odi team hasn’t had a decent year in Odis in the last 15-20 years. The w/l ratio will only grow wider and wider.

 

[saeed5646]

I don’t think you understand how ratios work.

If Pakistan play 100 tests and win only 14 that means they must have lost 60-70 at least which adds to the denominator making Pakistan have a w/l ratio below Sri Lanka etc.

And Pakistan odi team hasn’t had a decent year in Odis in the last 15-20 years. The w/l ratio will only grow wider and wider.

Mine might be wrong but you are also wrong current difference of W/L in odis is 0.5 so why would it take 20 years to our come that?

 

[Ab Fan]

There is some stat about World Cups in there I'm sure....

Yes and yet SA are no. 1 in terms of W/L. My odi ranking would overall be: -

Australia
India
WI
Pak/SA
SL
Eng
NZ

 

[warcry]

i see that now w/l ratio is only relevant when india has a better w/l ratio than pakistan
we will always have a better head 2 head anyway .

 

[Ab Fan]

i see that now w/l ratio is only relevant when india has a better w/l ratio than pakistan
we will always have a better head 2 head anyway .

It's not about that. India have won 2 WCs as well.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Mine might be wrong but you are also wrong current difference of W/L in odis is 0.5 so why would it take 20 years to our come that?

For the past 15-20 years Pakistan’s wl ratio has been declining as they have become a poorer team. India’s has been rising until they surpassed. If current trajectories continue which it will due to reasons of economy/systems Pakistan will never catch up.

 

[saeed5646]

For the past 15-20 years Pakistan’s wl ratio has been declining as they have become a poorer team. India’s has been rising until they surpassed. If current trajectories continue which it will due to reasons of economy/systems Pakistan will never catch up.

Creating a thread on 0.5 lead on w/L is bad idea .you have good idea about india and future where they will but i suggest you should not predict about pakistan cricket that too on 15 to 20 years where alot can change .For the starter if cricket play regularly in pakistan from next 5 years it will change alot of fortune for us and we might be back to top 3 in cricket .there are several other example which with the time might improve

 

[GLORY OF '92]

This!

Modern sports are not really sports, they are industries. The players are professionals, and the managers are professionals. For India there is no going back to the 1990s when the nepotism of Raj Singh Dungarpur ruled the day. Indian cricket will keep getting better and there will be ten more Bumrahs, Shaws and Agarwals ready to break into the team.

Let's see. This is just a good period for India. Pakistan will come back and so will Australia and WI. Watch out and don't get arrogant.

 

[Napa]

Let's see. This is just a good period for India. Pakistan will come back and so will Australia and WI. Watch out and don't get arrogant.

Saying that success is due to a change in culture is not really being arrogant. The same is true for Pakistan, if you want your team to improve, change the culture and you will have much better results.

 

[Mr. Cricket]

i see that now w/l ratio is only relevant when india has a better w/l ratio than pakistan
we will always have a better head 2 head anyway .

Only biggest stage matter and you know the record 11-0

 

[warcry]

Only biggest stage matter and you know the record 11-0

what is this 11-0 ? and how did you come up with that particular statistic?

 

[Tridibans_16]

what is this 11-0 ? and how did you come up with that particular statistic?

All matches on the biggest stage of cricket... World Cups (50 overs and 20 overs)

 

[Arsalan Pro]

So, India finally has better Win/Loss ratio than us in 1/3 formats of cricket which could also be temporary for next few days depending upon the Ind vs NZ series and Pak vs SA 5th ODI. Let's see how much time it takes for them to overcome us in Tests and T20Is.

 

[dragon751]

To be honest, I think Indians are slowly but surely moving to football and who knows maybe in another ten years, we may have football overtaking cricket locally.... Although we might still have a lot of players for cricket but the talent pool will reduce substantially

more like 30 years before that happens is my guess .... but i do hope it happens

 

[dragon751]

Creating a thread on 0.5 lead on w/L is bad idea .you have good idea about india and future where they will but i suggest you should not predict about pakistan cricket that too on 15 to 20 years where alot can change .For the starter if cricket play regularly in pakistan from next 5 years it will change alot of fortune for us and we might be back to top 3 in cricket .there are several other example which with the time might improve

i dont buy this argument that not having intl cricket played in pak is affecting the popularity and hence the quality of pak players ..... it is the most popular sport in pak by a huge margin, every kid in pak wants to be a cricketer .... if talented they get into the local youth/club/regional teams and progress as per the pathway available in the country ....... there is simply no competition to cricket in pak .... imho what you do lack is a structure to nuture that talent to deliver consistently at the intl level and this has been so since the days of imran khan and before .....used to be the case in india till 20 years ago too , but there now exists a structure to train and nurture talent and the money to support players to take up cricket as a profession , therin lies the difference bet pak and ind today ....... if pak is able to develop a structure similar to ind/eng/Aus they will be able to deliver the results the fans crave for

 

[warcry]

All matches on the biggest stage of cricket... World Cups (50 overs and 20 overs)

pffft. there are several incorrect assumptions made

1) implying that world cups are the biggest stage of cricket .

i consider bilateral test series the pinnacle of cricket

2) implying that 50 overs and 20 overs results can be added

20 overs a side is not even half that of a one day game

3) implying all games carry equal weightage.

does a final have equal weight-age to that of an inconsequential group fixture

4) implying i give 2 hoots about pakistan's performance against india.

due to political issues, there a no bilaterals between the two sides. therefore india is not really a team to be bothered about as there are no matches coming up in our schedule.

besides, we do not need to beat india to win the world cup, that is a misconception. All that is needed to to scrape through into the semis and fluke a couple of wins. whoever we meet in the knockout games is not a problem.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Tests 2-3 years
T20Is super close anyways. Prolly higher if you exclude zim etc

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Tests 2-3 years
T20Is super close anyways. Prolly higher if you exclude zim etc

Not going to happen, India has 18 Test matches in World Test Championship till 2021 and some more if they can arrange series out of this competition. Even if India wins 18/18 Test matches and Pakistan keep playing the same way, India won't overtake them. Anyway India is never going to win all their matches in any case and It will take atleast 5 years and that is if they keep playing well which is not certain at all.

In T20Is, Pakistan is a superior team and the best team without much doubt. It's not our fault that India loses to Zimbabwe.

 

[warcry]

Tests 2-3 years
T20Is super close anyways. Prolly higher if you exclude zim etc

there is only 1 way pakistan can face india in a test, and that is the final for the world test championship.
and pakistan would win because pakistan always wins at Lords and Oval, and the final is at Lords.

simple.

 

[geraltofrivia]

India doesn’t lose to Zimbabwe. They just don’t play against them. Pak arranges a lot of series vs weaker teams and boosts their victories.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Golden era don't mean the team wont lose any matches. The standout team of a particular era is called the team having a golden era. India is no doubt the stand out team at present. Pakistan never was a standout team in any generation and was always unpredictable. Hence their trophy cabinet/achievements were so less even during 80s-90s.

India has not edged a fraction but have grounded Pakistan cricket to the dust. The h2h record in this decade in 11-5 in India favor. Not only h2h but Indian team/BCCI has left Pak cricket in every possible angle.

On your last para, we have to wait and see what happens in 1 decade. I like you (fake) optimism but signs are not great.

Golden era in sport is referred to when teams are winning almost on every occasion. In the last 18 months, India have lost the big series and big matches. If this is your Golden era, you are not very ambitious but I'm glad to know you feel happy.

 

[urnotserious]

Talent stocks can dry up regardless of the state of the economy. India excelling in all sports can be good and bad both, future generations will have other options. Look at Australia right now, billion dollar tv rights deal but is no longer producing quality batsmen

No longer producing quality batsmen? They only lost to the best team in the world, they're still treating Lanka like Lanka. And would treat Pakistan like a red headed step child if were they even invited.

 

[saeed5646]

India doesn’t lose to Zimbabwe. They just don’t play against them. Pak arranges a lot of series vs weaker teams and boosts their victories.

Oh really your team do visit zim just like pakistan .2013,2015,2016

 

[saeed5646]

No longer producing quality batsmen? They only lost to the best team in the world, they're still treating Lanka like Lanka. And would treat Pakistan like a red headed step child if were they even invited.

Beating number 7 rank is not acheivment that too at home if they were that good team would not have lost test series against us in uae.If newzealand,Sa do tour aus right now they will expose their brittle batting badly and won easily

 

[geraltofrivia]

Beating number 7 rank is not acheivment that too at home if they were that good team would not have lost test series against us in uae.If newzealand,Sa do tour aus right now they will expose their brittle batting badly and won easily

You are the no 7 team.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Golden era in sport is referred to when teams are winning almost on every occasion. In the last 18 months, India have lost the big series and big matches. If this is your Golden era, you are not very ambitious but I'm glad to know you feel happy.

Come back when Pakistan win a match in Australia, let alone a series.

 

[saeed5646]

You are the no 7 team.

i am talking about pak.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Come back when Pakistan win a match in Australia, let alone a series.

Pakisttan played against Warner and Smith. India didn't which is why they won.

India is not dominating test cricket or ODI cricket or T20 but it's your Golden Era. Funny people

 

[Birdman]

Pakisttan played against Warner and Smith. India didn't which is why they won.

India is not dominating test cricket or ODI cricket or T20 but it's your Golden Era. Funny people

And Kohli was on two legs when batting and Bumrah was not bowling with his eyes blindfolded.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Pakisttan played against Warner and Smith. India didn't which is why they won.

India is not dominating test cricket or ODI cricket or T20 but it's your Golden Era. Funny people

India IS dominating test cricket. No 1 for more than 2 years now and looks to extend for a while. Only team to be in top 2 in all 3 formats.

I know India's success hurts but guess what, as India becomes richer and richer, the gap will become wider and wider and it will hurt even more.

 

[KingKhanWC]

India IS dominating test cricket. No 1 for more than 2 years now and looks to extend for a while. Only team to be in top 2 in all 3 formats.

I know India's success hurts but guess what, as India becomes richer and richer, the gap will become wider and wider and it will hurt even more.

You lost 4-1 to England just 6 months ago. What kind of domination is this?

 

[Rahul1]

You lost 4-1 to England just 6 months ago. What kind of domination is this?

Of course. England is the only country which matters. Silly me.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Of course. England is the only country which matters. Silly me.

Lost 2-1 to South Africa 12 months ago. My bad, total domination by India in tests

 

[Snowflake]

You crazy bro? Or are you a 16 year old

Its like 30 years we have been knocking you out of World Cups (be it 50overs or 20 overs). You just won a CT (ot even a T20 World cup) and is going gaga over it.

1996 knocked your ATG team in QF.
2003 Knocked you out in Group stages.
2007 Beat you in WORLD CUP Final
2011 Knocked you out in SF.

That is proper ownage right there. You can keep all the Panmasala/ Pan bahar/ Toothpaste cups in Sharjah/ UAE, I will take 11-0 in world cups anyday of the week.

Considering your comprehension skills, I wouldn't really go with the age jibe if I were you. Anyhow, let's break down your own post so that the point I was trying to make is easier for you to understand.

You have been 'knocking us out' of the World Cups for 30 years?! And yet you only have 4 freakin matches to list? Is that all that you have to show for in THIRTY years?

Also, for all the "knocking out that you have done" over THIRTY years, one would assume that your WC tally would be way higher than ours, right? 3 WC titles for India and 2 WC titles for Pakistan? Can it get any closer? That is what I meant when I said that the 11-0 number is misleading, as in a WC, the eventual result matter and not just H2H.

Lastly, I'll keep the cups in Sharjah, and you can keep the WC victories like that of 1992 and 1999

 

[Mamoon]

If they win the World Cup, they will overtake West Indies as the second greatest ODI team ever. They are already #2 as a cricket national overall.

 

[Tridibans_16]

Considering your comprehension skills, I wouldn't really go with the age jibe if I were you. Anyhow, let's break down your own post so that the point I was trying to make is easier for you to understand.

You have been 'knocking us out' of the World Cups for 30 years?! And yet you only have 4 freakin matches to list? Is that all that you have to show for in THIRTY years?

Also, for all the "knocking out that you have done" over THIRTY years, one would assume that your WC tally would be way higher than ours, right? 3 WC titles for India and 2 WC titles for Pakistan? Can it get any closer? That is what I meant when I said that the 11-0 number is misleading, as in a WC, the eventual result matter and not just H2H.

Lastly, I'll keep the cups in Sharjah, and you can keep the WC victories like that of 1992 and 1999

Considering this is a cricket forum, for starters, I don't need comprehension classes from you.

Secondly, we have FOUR all time classic incidences of knocking you out of World Cups. Hence the significance, genius. If that had been 30 instances in 30 years, how on earth will that count for any importance? You do understand that in 30 years, there will be 8 world cups or so only, right?

So you mean, in 6 instances we met with you in World Cups (in 50 overs), we knocked you out 4 times and you are worried that we managed only "4 times". Lols and not 10 or so times


It seems you are really a teenager in terms of understanding this game.

By the way, let me phrase it in a way you will comprehend "better", we have freaking beaten you 11 TIMES (yes 11 freaking times ) in 30 years in world cups. Now go figure.

 

[Snowflake]

If they win the World Cup, they will overtake West Indies as the second greatest ODI team ever. They are already #2 as a cricket national overall.

Absolutely not. Still far behind Australia which has been in the finals 7 times with 5 titles. Also, out of those 5 titles, 4 titles were back to back (except for in 2011) which shows how consistently dominant they were. India has a lot of catching up to do. No need to get all excited just yet.

 

[Mamoon]

Absolutely not. Still far behind Australia which has been in the finals 7 times with 5 titles. Also, out of those 5 titles, 4 titles were back to back (except for in 2011) which shows how consistently dominant they were. India has a lot of catching up to do. No need to get all excited just yet.

That is why I said #2. Australia are far ahead as the undisputed #1.

 

[Chokli]

If they win the World Cup, they will overtake West Indies as the second greatest ODI team ever. They are already #2 as a cricket national overall.

they might even win the 2023 WC since it's in India

 

[Snowflake]

Considering this is a cricket forum, for starters, I don't need comprehension classes from you.

Secondly, we have FOUR all time classic incidences of knocking you out of World Cups. Hence the significance, genius. If that had been 30 instances in 30 years, how on earth will that count for any importance? You do understand that in 30 years, there will be 8 world cups or so only, right?

So you mean, in 6 instances we met with you in World Cups (in 50 overs), we knocked you out 4 times and you are worried that we managed only "4 times". Lols and not 10 or so times


It seems you are really a teenager in terms of understanding this game.

By the way, let me phrase it in a way you will comprehend "better", we have freaking beaten you 11 TIMES (yes 11 freaking times ) in 30 years in world cups. Now go figure.

This is gold! Your post only reaffirms my original point. 4-0, instead of 11-0, is more accurate depiction of your superior WC record against Pakistan due to the significance that you so eloquently put. So, there you go ) Glad you finally saw the light.

Oh and you first tell me not lecture you on comprehension as this is a forum and then try to do the same at the end of your post?

I really did a number on you! lol

 

[Mamoon]

they might even win the 2023 WC since it's in India

True. Indian fans will be bitterly disappointed if they don't win at least one of the next two World Cups. A golden opportunity to win back to back trophies and be one behind Australia in terms of overall World Cups.

 

[Snowflake]

That is why I said #2. Australia are far ahead as the undisputed #1.

Ah! My apologies.

 

[Chokli]

True. Indian fans will be bitterly disappointed if they don't win at least one of the next two World Cups. A golden opportunity to win back to back trophies and be one behind Australia in terms of overall World Cups.

i agree, other than england there isn't a team that can challenge them

still feel new zealand blew a great opportunity last world cup..

 

[Snowflake]

Considering this is a cricket forum, for starters, I don't need comprehension classes from you.

Secondly, we have FOUR all time classic incidences of knocking you out of World Cups. Hence the significance, genius. If that had been 30 instances in 30 years, how on earth will that count for any importance? You do understand that in 30 years, there will be 8 world cups or so only, right?

So you mean, in 6 instances we met with you in World Cups (in 50 overs), we knocked you out 4 times and you are worried that we managed only "4 times". Lols and not 10 or so times


It seems you are really a teenager in terms of understanding this game.

By the way, let me phrase it in a way you will comprehend "better", we have freaking beaten you 11 TIMES (yes 11 freaking times ) in 30 years in world cups. Now go figure.

Also, it's 3 KOs in the 50 over WC, not 4. Or was there another WC in the THIRTY years that I missed?

Yikes! That record looks a lot less flattering now

 

[Tridibans_16]

This is gold! Your post only reaffirms my original point. 4-0, instead of 11-0, is more accurate depiction of your superior WC record against Pakistan due to the significance that you so eloquently put. So, there you go ) Glad you finally saw the light.

Oh and you first tell me not lecture you on comprehension as this is a forum and then try to do the same at the end of your post?

I really did a number on you! lol

I understand your pain buddy. Its like failing in the same exam 11 times, over 30 years, and still not a single passing marks to show!

Chill dude. You guys still have all the toothpase cups or pan masala trophies in Sharjah/ UAE. And yes, how to forget that CT 2017 final. Yayy!!!

We poor souls are happy with 11 wins at the biggest stage of all! You do know those tournaments are called "WORLD CUP" for a reason, right?

 

[Tridibans_16]

Also, it's 3 KOs in the 50 over WC, not 4. Or was there another WC in the THIRTY years that I missed?

Yikes! That record looks a lot less flattering now

Oh yes I forgot, the other one was the FINAL of a world cup, World T20 2007. Atleast you will know the importance, as Pakistan is the so called no.1 T20 side now,

 

[Snowflake]

I understand your pain buddy. Its like failing in the same exam 11 times, over 30 years, and still not a single passing marks to show!

Chill dude. You guys still have all the toothpase cups or pan masala trophies in Sharjah/ UAE. And yes, how to forget that CT 2017 final. Yayy!!!

We poor souls are happy with 11 wins at the biggest stage of all! You do know those tournaments are called "WORLD CUP" for a reason, right?

Back to square one, are we?

Now that is game, set and match!

 

[Tridibans_16]

i agree, other than england there isn't a team that can challenge them

still feel new zealand blew a great opportunity last world cup..

We are not winning this world cup brother, our middle order is as bad as it gets. Karthik, Rayadu and Dhoni. Well you can imagine chasing 340 on the English pitches.

At best, we will be lucky to be a Finalist.

 

[Tridibans_16]

Back to square one, are we?

Now that is game, set and match!

Congrats brother.

Still it is 11-0. Enjoy!

 

[Snowflake]

Congrats brother.

Still it is 11-0. Enjoy!

Thank you! It does feel good to guide you to the light.

Oh, it totally is. Did I ever say it wasn't?

 

[Chokli]

We are not winning this world cup brother, our middle order is as bad as it gets. Karthik, Rayadu and Dhoni. Well you can imagine chasing 340 on the English pitches.

At best, we will be lucky to be a Finalist.

any team that concedes 340 in the final won't be winning chasing.

there is just too much pressure.

but india and england are a level above the rest

 

[mystical man]

If they win the World Cup, they will overtake West Indies as the second greatest ODI team ever. They are already #2 as a cricket national overall.

This is too much and there is a long way for Team India to go if they were matching the Aussies of the 2000's....

 

[geraltofrivia]

You lost 4-1 to England just 6 months ago. What kind of domination is this?

The same kind Australia had losing in India 2001 and Ashes 2005.

 

[Usman]

Upsets do happen is sports.

Yes, the Indian fans were very upset )

I can see that that hurt still hasn't gone away.

 

[Hyperion66]

Yes, the Indian fans were very upset )

I can see that that hurt still hasn't gone away.

Of course we were upset to have been defeated by a team far below our level. We learned from that and moved on which is evident by our performance since then. India is expected to beat Pakistan 8/9 out 10 times, for us it's just another day in the office. For you it was your biggest achievement since that t20 wc, it is quite understandable why you keep playing that broken record and will continue to do so in the future. I am perfectly okay with that, after all BD still celebrate their 2007 win over us so why shouldn't you?

 

[jadaja]

Much Like India beat Pakistan in in the B&H Finals 1985, back when Pakistan has it's 'Lion' Imran Khan in the team, and we were borderline minnows

BTW, India vs Pak matches in WC is all about pride and prestige. It's pretty much irrelevant what both the 2 teams do after their matches against each other are done. But the memories, and humiliations are remembered forever.

Anyways, Pakistan's superior record in head to head encounters in numerous meaningless ODI matches against India are of utmost importance. But India's victories against Pakistan in WC tournaments hold little value

Who said India was minnow in 1985, they won 1983 world cup beating greatest odi side not once but twice. Won test series in England 2-0, should have won in Australia in 1985 test series if not for rain when only 50 runs were needed with 10 wickets.

The only side they could not compete was WI.

 

[Bilal7]

Pakistan 73 - 54 India

Game. Set. Match.

OP clearly did not think this one through.

 

[Bilal7]

The same kind Australia had losing in India 2001 and Ashes 2005.

These delusions of grandeur are sad. Those losses happend over the course of five years. India lost to England and South Africa consecutively and would have definitely lost to Australia if they had their two best batsmen.

They also have a ****-poor away record before and after the 2018-19 season so come on back down to earth, k?

Once you do that, you'll also realize that they haven't won an ICC trophy in years. That won't change this year or next either.

 

[Suleiman]

These delusions of grandeur are sad. Those losses happend over the course of five years. India lost to England and South Africa consecutively and would have definitely lost to Australia if they had their two best batsmen.

They also have a ****-poor away record before and after the 2018-19 season so come on back down to earth, k?

Once you do that, you'll also realize that they haven't won an ICC trophy in years. That won't change this year or next either.

Man you must tell yourself such nonsense to rest easy huh? They are 2 time world cup winners and just beat Aus in Aus regardless of what lies you want to tell yourself to better digest it, take it easy champ.

 

[bilal3021]

Congrats to team India and the Indian fans..


*It's taken around 5 decades to get to this point.
*Competing with a country with a population gap so big that you can work it our yourselves.
*Still head to head the team in front is the one that doesn't have a better structure/organisation/funds then team India who finally managed to have a better W/L ratio.

I wonder how long this would've taken if we had a bit more population to choose from or our cricket was run by people who knew and cared for the sport rather then themselves.

None the less achievement is an achievement and i congratulate our neighbours for this.

 

[latecut]

Congrats to team India and the Indian fans..


*It's taken around 5 decades to get to this point.
*Competing with a country with a population gap so big that you can work it our yourselves.
*Still head to head the team in front is the one that doesn't have a better structure/organisation/funds then team India who finally managed to have a better W/L ratio.

I wonder how long this would've taken if we had a bit more population to choose from or our cricket was run by people who knew and cared for the sport rather then themselves.

None the less achievement is an achievement and i congratulate our neighbours for this.

India is the most populous nation to play cricket. Going by that logic, Pakistan is the second most populous cricket playing nation in the world.

Now, start asking the same questions about Pakistan cricket that you are asking about Indian cricket.

One question from my side is:- If India with its population contributes the highest amount of money to ICC coffers then why Pakistan with the second highest population among cricket playing nations does not contribute the second highest amount of money to ICC ?

 

[bilal3021]

India is the most populous nation to play cricket. Going by that logic, Pakistan is the second most populous cricket playing nation in the world.

Now, start asking the same questions about Pakistan cricket that you are asking about Indian cricket.

One question from my side is:- If India with its population contributes the highest amount of money to ICC coffers then why Pakistan with the second highest population among cricket playing nations does not contribute the second highest amount of money to ICC ?

Missed the pint completely but that’s ok
Put in simple terms a country with such a big population is still struggling to take over their much smaller neighbour in head to head clashes and now we have people celebrating a better w/l ratio which has taken nearly 5 decades to ach.

 

[latecut]

Missed the pint completely but that’s ok
Put in simple terms a country with such a big population is still struggling to take over their much smaller neighbour in head to head clashes and now we have people celebrating a better w/l ratio which has taken nearly 5 decades to ach.

Some people may be celebrating it, but not all. As far as I am concerned, doing well in a sport like cricket which is played seriously in just ten countries is not an achievement.

Doing well in global sports is an achievement. Some Indians have done well in global sports like Tennis, badminton, chess etc. Some Indians have begun to win medals in Olympics. That to me is a far greater achievement than winning matches and tournaments in cricket which is a minor sports in the world. If it seems like a major sport to you then just wait till Indians stop following this game and move on to other more global sports. I am sure it will happen within the next two decades.

 

[NoBallZombie]

You can keep wishing, but the reality is different. The current Indian team is not a fluke. It is the result of a domestic cricket system that identifies and nurtures talent. There are batsmen like Agarwal, Pant and Gill waiting for their turn. We need a couple more bowlers like Bumrah and it will happen soon. You can keep waiting for the "rot" to start.

**cough** not wishful thinking at all mate. It is all common sense which you have failed to see. The rot has started and as I said, India peaked way too early for the world cup. A winning streak broken on home ground and nowhere to hide with excuses like "It was India's X, Y, Z team".

 

[Technics 1210]

11-0 in WC the biggest event.

This is a misleading statement.

It is actually 6-0 to India in the World Cup.

The World T20 is not a World Cup.

 

[nextover666666]

Guys who cares about records with India their overrated and can't bowl we need to care about records and winning matches Agaisnt good teams like South Africa new zealand and England