India has overtaken Pakistan in producing fast bowlers

[apollo]

In my view, India is currently the only nation which is producing quality fast bowlers.

I'm very impressed with young Bumra. Others like Barinder Saran and Mohit Sharma are also 140 km/h quickies. Plus, Yaduv and Aron and Shami are also good exponents of reverse swing and Ishant has over 200 test wickets which no Pakistani fast bowler has achieved since Waqar Younis. These bowlers are way ahead of any young Aussie bowlers like Boland, Richardson, etc and S. Africans like Abott and Rabada.

India has clearly overtaken Pakistan as the land of talented young fast bowlers. Current Pakistani bowlers are not threatning compared to Yadav or Shami. Who can forget the bouncer to Broad, the reverse swing against South Africa. That's the reason why Australia and other top nations prepare flat tracks against India, they know India has a quality attack.

In the comming years India will have a deadly pace attack which will help them in dominating world cricket.

 

[JaDed]

In my view, India is currently the only nation which is producing quality fast bowlers.

Thoda jaida Hogaya.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Even Bangladesh has overtaken Pakistan currently.

But it is nothing to be proud of. It only highlights how much Pakistani bowling standards have fallen.

 

[shah_1]

Anwar Ali being picked for national side tells a lot about Pakistan current state.

 

[apollo]

Thoda jaida Hogaya.

What is so special in other bowlers like Boland, Richardson, Hastings, Abott, Lakmal, Anwar Ali, etc?

 

[Junaids]

In my view, India is currently the only nation which is producing quality fast bowlers.

I'm very impressed with young Bumra. Others like Barinder Saran and Mohit Sharma are also 140 km/h quickies. Plus, Yaduv and Aron and Shami are also good exponents of reverse swing and Ishant has over 200 test wickets which no Pakistani fast bowler has achieved since Waqar Younis. These bowlers are way ahead of any young Aussie bowlers like Boland, Richardson, etc and S. Africans like Abott and Rabada.

India has clearly overtaken Pakistan as the land of talented young fast bowlers. Current Pakistani bowlers are not threatning compared to Yadav or Shami. Who can forget the bouncer to Broad, the reverse swing against South Africa. That's the reason why Australia and other top nations prepare flat tracks against India, they know India has a quality attack.

In the comming years India will have a deadly pace attack which will help them in dominating world cricket.

I can't agree with this.

I'm the first to acknowledge the Indian batsmen, and even Ashwin.

But India's quicks were hopeless in Tests in Australia a year ago, actually beyond hopeless.

Umesh Yadav has had one spell of surprising reverse swing, in the final session of a Test that South Africa was close to saving. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the Indians probably did to that ball what the 1990s Pakistanis used to do.

If I had to order Asian quicks according to whom I would want to bowl for me in Tests, my list would be:

1 Mohammad Amir
2 Mohammad Asif
3 Wahab Riaz
4 Rahat Ali
5 Mohammad Irfan
6 Umesh Yadav
7 Junaid Khan
8 Ehsan Adil
9 Imran Khan
10 Zia-ul-Haq

Nine Pakistanis, one Indian, no Sri Lankans, no Bangladeshis.

 

[Syed1]

Comeback and talk when you have a bowler like Amir.

 

[joly]

India surpassed Pakistan long time ago, old news,however there are other teams ahead of India, thoda zyaada ho gya lol

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Troll thread.

And not a good one at that.

 

[dauntless]

Lol at mohit ,sran they are equal to anwar

 

[Zak_Fan]

Comeback and talk when you have a bowler like Amir.

He is one of you bhaijaan.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Well, it's not Indian bowling standard has risen up, it's because Pakistan bowling standard has fallen to the worst

 

[JaDed]

I can't agree with this.

I'm the first to acknowledge the Indian batsmen, and even Ashwin.

But India's quicks were hopeless in Tests in Australia a year ago, actually beyond hopeless.

Umesh Yadav has had one spell of surprising reverse swing, in the final session of a Test that South Africa was close to saving. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the Indians probably did to that ball what the 1990s Pakistanis used to do.

If I had to order Asian quicks according to whom I would want to bowl for me in Tests, my list would be:

1 Mohammad Amir
2 Mohammad Asif
3 Wahab Riaz
4 Rahat Ali
5 Mohammad Irfan
6 Umesh Yadav
7 Junaid Khan
8 Ehsan Adil
9 Imran Khan
10 Zia-ul-Haq

Nine Pakistanis, one Indian, no Sri Lankans, no Bangladeshis.

Junaid,Ehsan,Imran,Zia over Ishant shows your bias and Zia really????

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Hahahaha.

Newcomer(OP) enters with a bang.

 

[Balthazar]

Well this is nothing new, since I started watching Cricket Indian bowlers always had more success compared to Pakistani bowlers. More than Pakistan's bowling, I am shocked how their batting has regressed big time.

 

[Itachi]

Comeback and talk when you have a bowler like Amir.

I agree. Had amir was indian, he would have been banned from playing any type of cricket.

So no.... We can't have a bowler like amir.

 

[street cricketer]

With the afridi thread, I thought he was an Indian. Now I'm sure he's a Pakistani, albeit being an over enthusiastic afridi fan.

 

[Indian_Supporter]

Nope...never. Pakistani bowling is much stronger than India. Probably in spin department India is ahead but in seam attack there is no doubt Pak is much superior.

Amongst Asia, if I have to rate bowling attacks it will be as follows:

1)Pakistan - Overall best bowling attack. Though i would love to see a right arm seamer for variety. Seems like Asif will be back so that will help the cause. Else Sohail Khan can be fit in.

2)India - Not much ahead of BD but I would rate them as 2nd due to better spinners.

3)BD - Very close to India. Top seam attack but lack good spinners. They need decent spinners to close test matches at home.

4)SL - Very poor bar Prasad. He is the only good bowler, sorry to say. Herath and Malinga both downhill and Kulasekara never impressed me.

Top 10 seam bowlers from Asia:

1)Amir
2)Mustafizur
3)Wahab
4)Prasad
5)Ishant
6)Irfan
7)Shami
8)Rubel
9)Malinga
10)Yadav

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[Indian_Supporter]

I can't agree with this.

I'm the first to acknowledge the Indian batsmen, and even Ashwin.

But India's quicks were hopeless in Tests in Australia a year ago, actually beyond hopeless.

Umesh Yadav has had one spell of surprising reverse swing, in the final session of a Test that South Africa was close to saving. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the Indians probably did to that ball what the 1990s Pakistanis used to do.

If I had to order Asian quicks according to whom I would want to bowl for me in Tests, my list would be:

1 Mohammad Amir
2 Mohammad Asif
3 Wahab Riaz
4 Rahat Ali
5 Mohammad Irfan
6 Umesh Yadav
7 Junaid Khan
8 Ehsan Adil
9 Imran Khan
10 Zia-ul-Haq

Nine Pakistanis, one Indian, no Sri Lankans, no Bangladeshis.

Very poor and biased list sorry to say.

Asif is your no.2 Asian bowler without playing a single game for 5 years. Mustafizur with an avg of below 18 in all formats does not feature in your list but Zia ul Haq and Junaid Khan is there. Also Ehsan Adil is better than Ishant and Prasad?

Even Pakistani posters will not agree. You might want to re think your cricketing sense

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[apollo]

Which Pakistani bowler apart from Asif knows how to seam a new ball or anyone who can bowl late swing?

 

[Syed1]

Which Pakistani bowler apart from Asif knows how to seam a new ball or anyone who can bowl late swing?

Er... Amir and Irfan

 

[BigBoy123]

Lol..Mohit Saran better than Burma ?
Let's compare top 3 Indian fast bowlers with Pakistani fast bowler and have the result
1)Amir > Shami (Haven't Played for an year almost injury might spoil his career)
2) Wahab = Yadav (Both spray Guns both can win u an odd match not more)
3) Irfan > Ishant (Both tall fast bowlers , Irfan has lost less Matches for Pak than Ishant has for India)

Pakistan still has a better bowlers than India..Saran Bhuv Mohit are just mediocre

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[waleed88]

I can't agree with this.

I'm the first to acknowledge the Indian batsmen, and even Ashwin.

But India's quicks were hopeless in Tests in Australia a year ago, actually beyond hopeless.

Umesh Yadav has had one spell of surprising reverse swing, in the final session of a Test that South Africa was close to saving. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the Indians probably did to that ball what the 1990s Pakistanis used to do.

If I had to order Asian quicks according to whom I would want to bowl for me in Tests, my list would be:

1 Mohammad Amir
2 Mohammad Asif
3 Wahab Riaz
4 Rahat Ali
5 Mohammad Irfan
6 Umesh Yadav
7 Junaid Khan
8 Ehsan Adil
9 Imran Khan
10 Zia-ul-Haq

Nine Pakistanis, one Indian, no Sri Lankans, no Bangladeshis.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is normally a fantastic poster. But lately he has been overrating the spot fixing trio to no end. Almost every post ends up being out them and the tour to England where they will fulfill their lost glory.

 

[dashing_man]

a couple T20s and indian new bowlers consisting of Al Amin 2.0 and Ishant Sharma brother along with have overtaken Pakistan's Imran Khan and Anwar Ali

 

[Hamza78]

India not even close yet we are bad fielding side and India is good fielding side and 4-1 said hello

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistan's issues are as always with it's batsmen rather than the bowlers. If India has better pace bowlers then good luck to them they must be a fantastic team. I think if we had some decent batting our bowling is good enough to do the job.

 

[endymion248]

I'm very impressed with young Bumra. Others like Barinder Saran and Mohit Sharma are also 140 km/h quickies. Plus, Yaduv and Aron and Shami are also good exponents of reverse swing and Ishant has over 200 test wickets which no Pakistani fast bowler has achieved since Waqar Younis.

Indian pacers may or may not be better than Pakistani ones but this line of reasoning is questionable. Achieving 200 test wickets is not a measure of greatness when you have an average of 36, it only shows how little competition you have. Afridi has the 5th highest number of ODI wickets, doesn't make him the greatest ODI leg-spinner ever. Ishant has certainly not been a better test bowler than Akhtar or Asif. Nobody even remembers Hilton Streak from Zim who has 216 test wickets.

 

[apollo]

Indian pacers may or may not be better than Pakistani ones but this line of reasoning is questionable. Achieving 200 test wickets is not a measure of greatness when you have an average of 36, it only shows how little competition you have. Afridi has the 5th highest number of ODI wickets, doesn't make him the greatest ODI leg-spinner ever. Ishant has certainly not been a better test bowler than Akhtar or Asif. Nobody even remembers Hilton Streak from Zim who has 216 test wickets.

Don't compare Ishant with Afridi.
Afridi is a matchwinner and one of Pakistan's greatest.

Ishant is a quality bowler, took 10 wickets at Lord's and has troubled greats like Ponting. He is mostly inconsistent cau'z he is young and overambitious, but will soon turn into a potential bowler with 400 wickets.

 

[in_cutter]

Disagree.

Indian bowlers tend to start with a bang only to go down a notch.

Remember:

Irfan Pathan
Nehra
RP Singh
Munaf Patel
Ishant Sharma
Sreesanth
Now Umesh Yadav

Bumram is OK. Shami is brilliant. That's it.

 

[Seamer]

Kahan Amir kahan Ishant

 

[endymion248]

Don't compare Ishant with Afridi.
Afridi is a matchwinner and one of Pakistan's greatest.

Ishant is a quality bowler, took 10 wickets at Lord's and has troubled greats like Ponting. He is mostly inconsistent cau'z he is young and overambitious, but will soon turn into a potential bowler with 400 wickets.

If he does take 400 test wickets with his 36 average then it will be downright shameful for India. Hopefully Shami and co replace him first.

 

[jusarrived]

If he does take 400 test wickets with his 36 average then it will be downright shameful for India. Hopefully Shami and co replace him first.

I dont agree with the OP , but unlikely you will see SC bowlers take 400 wickets with a sub 28 avg in future . As good as you think Aamir is he will not average under 30 .

 

[endymion248]

I dont agree with the OP , but unlikely you will see SC bowlers take 400 wickets with a sub 28 avg in future . As good as you think Aamir is he will not average under 30 .

Test matches in Asia are not any more high scoring than they used to be. If Akhtar and Asif both managed to remain under 25, no reason it's impossible for a fast bowler of their quality, be he from India or Pakistan.

 

[jusarrived]

Test matches in Asia are not any more high scoring than they used to be. If Akhtar and Asif both managed to remain under 25, no reason it's impossible for a fast bowler of their quality, be he from India or Pakistan.

you should probably check Asifs average in Asia & Akthar was a far superior bowler & had pace to take the pitch out of the equation. . The matches in SC is low scoring only when it spins . its not just that . The bowlers workload these days is a lot more than say 10 years back , playing three different forms of cricket . its just impossible to maintain the consistency for pace bowlers these days .

 

[cricketworm]

With Irfan and Amir's return. Pak LOIs bowling is under appreciated. Pak can win lot of matches with this group. If they had indian batsmen, their bowling quality would have gotten better appreciation.

Saying that Indian bowling gets lots of flak needlessly. They get the worst appreciation among other teams.

 

[cric]

India is the only country continously letting chase over 300 runs. They are very consistent about it. Indian bowlers way ahead in this regards.

 

[endymion248]

you should probably check Asifs average in Asia & Akthar was a far superior bowler & had pace to take the pitch out of the equation. . The matches in SC is low scoring only when it spins . its not just that . The bowlers workload these days is a lot more than say 10 years back , playing three different forms of cricket . its just impossible to maintain the consistency for pace bowlers these days .

And yet, overall, he took 100 test wickets at under 25 thanks to his foreign wickets, no reason he couldn't have maintained that average over time or improved in Pakistan. And that's Asif, the least matched bowler for Asia. A bowler of their quality could definitely average under 25 over his career despite being Asian. Of course, he will have high average series, like Asif vs India, but maintaining a good ER in those and then taking advantage of when conditions are better in Asia (for example Asif destroying SL in SL) or from foreign wickets (for example Asif vs NZ), overall, the sub-25 is possible.

Now, about 400 test wickets. Yes, it's true that Asian teams don't play enough test cricket and play too much LO. Yet a bowler who starts young would definitely play enough cricket to get there. Ishant has an average of 36 and he has already 200 wickets at 27, do you really think a sub-25 bowler wouldn't get to play enough test matches to get 400 wickets? The only difference I can see is that a sub-25 bowler is more likely to be overworked in LOs while Ishant often gets dropped from LOIs squads.

All in all, provided a good bowler, no reason why the 400 number isn't reachable with a decent average.

 

[maniac007]

Burma is nothing more than lively medium pacer , he certainly ain't fast lol

 

[Finisher]

Shami- Amir

Rest of indian fast bowlers are around the same level as Bilawal Bhatti in speed and Anwar Ali in skills.

 

[Executioner]

I am pretty sure Indians will disagree because India doesn't have that kind of pace attack just yet.

It is debatable even if you say that BD has better pace bowler. In LOIs, our attack is brilliant - Taskin, Mustafiz, Al amin, Rony, Rubel, Mashrafe. But in tests our pace attack is rather untested

 

[Arham_PakFan]

What an 'appolling' thread,lol

Okay,that was a bad pun.

 

[Bhaijaan]

A pathetic thread.

Australia is he godfather of fast bowling. Please its not even close. People hype them for their batting and I say they're all idiots. Australia to me hasn't been a batting aide for years now. Their claim to fame is their never ending dope pacers.

Then you have England and RSA. They have too many good ones.



Then we are all at the same level pretty much.

 

[LastManstanding]

I can't agree with this.

I'm the first to acknowledge the Indian batsmen, and even Ashwin.

But India's quicks were hopeless in Tests in Australia a year ago, actually beyond hopeless.

Umesh Yadav has had one spell of surprising reverse swing, in the final session of a Test that South Africa was close to saving. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that the Indians probably did to that ball what the 1990s Pakistanis used to do.

If I had to order Asian quicks according to whom I would want to bowl for me in Tests, my list would be:

1 Mohammad Amir
2 Mohammad Asif
3 Wahab Riaz
4 Rahat Ali
5 Mohammad Irfan
6 Umesh Yadav
7 Junaid Khan
8 Ehsan Adil
9 Imran Khan
10 Zia-ul-Haq

Nine Pakistanis, one Indian, no Sri Lankans, no Bangladeshis.

Could have summarized it in two words. Pakistan zindabad.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Joke of a thread. We have the best Asian attack. No doub about it.

 

[aslaisnomasla]

Even Bangladesh has overtaken Pakistan currently.

But it is nothing to be proud of. It only highlights how much Pakistani bowling standards have fallen.

Like I've been saying just wait till you have a decent left hand pacer and you will make him look better than wasim akram...Pakistan bowling burns you deep down and you can't just accept it that they've been and are better .

 

[aslaisnomasla]

Which Pakistani bowler apart from Asif knows how to seam a new ball or anyone who can bowl late swing?

So rat decided to come out of the hole ..bhaag jaa iss say pelay tujhey crush karkeh maaarthoon mein ....chaddi group .

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Like I've been saying just wait till you have a decent left hand pacer and you will make him look better than wasim akram...Pakistan bowling burns you deep down and you can't just accept it that they've been and are better .

Seriously [MENTION=139678]Zak_Fan[/MENTION] in ODIs how is

Bumrah(Make no mistake, I was impressed by him)
Ishant
Yadav
Aaron/Sran

better than

Amir
Irfan
Wahab
Asif/Rahat

 

[StreetSmart]

Way over Rabada, Amir and Irfan hahahahahahahahahahahahhahah ) Please itna mat hasao dard ho raha hai pait mai has has ker

 

[Sandeep]

OP, what if Indians create a thread on how Pakistani batsmen have overtaken not just Indian, but the batsmen from the whole world? I guess that would be the answer to this thread.

 

[Sandeep]

I am pretty sure Indians will disagree because India doesn't have that kind of pace attack just yet.

It is debatable even if you say that BD has better pace bowler. In LOIs, our attack is brilliant - Taskin, Mustafiz, Al amin, Rony, Rubel, Mashrafe. But in tests our pace attack is rather untested

No offence, you never let go any opportunity to bring Bangladesh into the debate )

 

[in_cutter]

Seriously [MENTION=139678]Zak_Fan[/MENTION] in ODIs how is

Bumrah(Make no mistake, I was impressed by him)
Ishant
Yadav
Aaron/Sran

better than

Amir
Irfan
Wahab
Asif/Rahat

Too early to put Amir amongst the best yet after a long lay off. His seam position on delivery is all over the place compared to the likes of Starc & Boult. Heck even Nehra was presenting a straight seam.

Yadav is probably on par with Wahab- both are fast but have no brain. Asif has been out for a while. Irfan is brilliant.

But for OP to suggest the Ind is producing the best fast bowlers is just rubbish.

 

[Sandeep]

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is normally a fantastic poster. But lately he has been overrating the spot fixing trio to no end. Almost every post ends up being out them and the tour to England where they will fulfill their lost glory.

There you go, the fallout has begin. Amir is still a human like others. The more he plays, more will the people realize. Junaids will be heart broken when Amir fails on the dead Australian tracks later this year..

 

[90MPH]

There you go, the fallout has begin. Amir is still a human like others. The more he plays, more will the people realize. Junaids will be heart broken when Amir fails on the dead Australian tracks later this year..

He will still do better than the rubbish bowling I saw from the Indians last year, especially Ishant Sharma.

 

[Sandeep]

He will still do better than the rubbish bowling I saw from the Indians last year, especially Ishant Sharma.

Of course. I will be heart broken if fans feel happy that Amir has done better than Ishant Sharma.

 

[ethan hunt]

India didnt win a single match in newzealnd ffs , they wouldnt be able to restrict newzealand to 270 .
Sad to see the two bowling lineups being compared. Pakistan are certainly not at their best but india really ??

 

[Sandeep]

India didnt win a single match in newzealnd ffs , they wouldnt be able to restrict newzealand to 270 .
Sad to see the two bowling lineups being compared. Pakistan are certainly not at their best but india really ??

Are you really trying to buy the BS the OP is selling?

 

[Ankit007]

Lol..Mohit Saran better than Burma ?
Let's compare top 3 Indian fast bowlers with Pakistani fast bowler and have the result
1)Amir > Shami (Haven't Played for an year almost injury might spoil his career)
2) Wahab = Yadav (Both spray Guns both can win u an odd match not more)
3) Irfan > Ishant (Both tall fast bowlers , Irfan has lost less Matches for Pak than Ishant has for India)

Pakistan still has a better bowlers than India..Saran Bhuv Mohit are just mediocre

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I agree. This is reality still. Pak does have better pacers! We have better batsman and spinners

 

[Indian_Supporter]

He will still do better than the rubbish bowling I saw from the Indians last year, especially Ishant Sharma.

Yes but Indian bowlers are not benchmark isnt it? Everyone knows Indian seam bowling is rubbish and if you seek comfort Amir is bowling better than Indian counterparts good luck to you. I am sure even if you hit gym and nets, you can bowl better than likes of Yadav and Mohit

Then why Amir was hailed special? To compare with Indian bowlers?

McCleneghan out of all people bowled better than him in the recent T20 series where Amir was avging 100.

Agree it was his first tour since comeback...so we must wait and watch.

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[Ankit007]

I am pretty sure Indians will disagree because India doesn't have that kind of pace attack just yet.

It is debatable even if you say that BD has better pace bowler. In LOIs, our attack is brilliant - Taskin, Mustafiz, Al amin, Rony, Rubel, Mashrafe. But in tests our pace attack is rather untested

Agreed that our pace bowlers are still not as good as Pak yet but Ban! Seriously!! We have much better pacers than Ban.... Ban have promising but not yet tested pace bowlers. We have tested bowlers and successful as well.

 

[Indian_Supporter]

No offence, you never let go any opportunity to bring Bangladesh into the debate )

They always hype up their players and in threads which has no connection with BD anywhere, Executioner will always draw some parallel with Bangla players.

Then when someone say win a tournament like Asia cup at home and then talk, excuses always ready. We are not that good in T20. If it was ODIs we would have surely won.

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[Ar7alan]

Disagree.

Indian bowlers tend to start with a bang only to go down a notch.

Remember:

Irfan Pathan
Nehra
RP Singh
Munaf Patel
Ishant Sharma
Sreesanth
Now Umesh Yadav

Bumram is OK. Shami is brilliant. That's it.

same is the case with Pakistan batting they come with a bang
1) umer akmal
2) sohaib maqsood
3) Nasir jamshaid
4) Rizwan
5) Ahmed shehzad
and the list goes on only Harris sohail was decent and he is injury prone like shami[emoji12]

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[StreetSmart]

OP, what if Indians create a thread on how Pakistani batsmen have overtaken not just Indian, but the batsmen from the whole world? I guess that would be the answer to this thread.

Yes for that we can proudly say Pakistani Batsman now days are worse than even Bangladesh forget India man

 

[StreetSmart]

same is the case with Pakistan batting they come with a bang
1) umer akmal
2) sohaib maqsood
3) Nasir jamshaid
4) Rizwan
5) Ahmed shehzad
and the list goes on only Harris sohail was decent and he is injury prone like shami[emoji12]

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Jamshed Performed for Pakistan but dont know what happened to him after Aanay do Series

 

[Ar7alan]

Jamshed Performed for Pakistan but dont know what happened to him after Aanay do Series

yes all these players performed in one or two series then faded away with time now they are nothing more than a liability

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[Suleiman]

Sad truth. Or we are equals. Not much to differentiate between ours and Bangladeshi pacers as far as LOIS go. In tests India is ahead by a little.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Very poor and biased list sorry to say.

Asif is your no.2 Asian bowler without playing a single game for 5 years. Mustafizur with an avg of below 18 in all formats does not feature in your list but Zia ul Haq and Junaid Khan is there. Also Ehsan Adil is better than Ishant and Prasad?

Even Pakistani posters will not agree. You might want to re think your cricketing sense

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What a joke. Mohammed Shami is not even in his top 10 list.

 

[Rightarmfast]

No doubt India is producing more fast bowlers. But is India producing quality fast bowlers? I doubt. We have Ishant, Umesh, Varun and Shami. But except for Shami, the others are very hot and cold. Not consistent at all. If India can have one bowler even like Zaheer Khan or even Srinath, then we can say that we are getting better. But the present lot is not good enough.

 

[Suleiman]

This is why we need to stop focusing on what India has or is doing and focus on ourselves.

We don't have this loser mentality against Australia or South Africa, they are top LOI teams too. Accept they are ahead of us, and instead of worrying about what they have focus on our issues.

Also this idea that "we are a bowling nation should focus on bowling not batting blah blah" is the most backward thought process on this forum, more on this later after I return from my business trip Insh Allah.

 

[Sanzcool]

Stopped reading when Mohit Sharma was put as a quickie, WT********

 

[Buffet]

It's hard to compare two ordinary units.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It's hard to compare two ordinary units.

All pace bowling units besides Australia and England are ordinary right now. The gap isn't much honestly.

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[Mamoon]

SA's attack is still good with Morkel, Rabada and even Abbot and Morris are good compared to our useless pacers.

Obviously, Steyn and Philander still have to be considered even if they are injured. NZ have an excellent attack too with Boult, Milne, Southee and Henry.

1. Australia
2. England
3. NZ
4. SA


Everyone else is rubbish.

 

[apollo]

Glenn Mcgrath always speaks very highly of young Indian pacers.

 

[Ab Fan]

Poor thread.. But both are ordinary pace attack.Players like Mohit Sharma and Sran are useless. Aaron and Yadav don't have brain and are just sprayguns. Ishant Sharma is way too inconsistent but I would still take him over these names.Shami is probably the only good bowler but let's see how it goes for him in the coming time.

 

[aniket1911]

Premature thread to be honest.
We can say this if any Indian pace bowler out perform all his Pakistani peers for significant amount of time say 1 or 2 years.

 

[Syed1]

SA's attack is still good with Morkel, Rabada and even Abbot and Morris are good compared to our useless pacers.

Obviously, Steyn and Philander still have to be considered even if they are injured. NZ have an excellent attack too with Boult, Milne, Southee and Henry.

1. Australia
2. England
3. NZ
4. SA


Everyone else is rubbish.

The British empire is rising again?

 

[Syed1]

It's hard to compare two ordinary units.

Don't know about India, but atleast we don't get blunted in our own home. I'd take an ordinary bowling lineup that is able to put teams like England to the sword.

 

[BigBoy123]

Maqsood > Virat

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[Mamoon]

The British empire is rising again?

Yes, they could peak soon like they did in 2010/2011.

Root, Broad, Stokes, Finn, Taylor, Bairstow, Buttler, Morgan, Hales, Roy, Billings with Cook and Anderson still around for 2-3 years minimum. That is a lot of quality across all formats.

 

[Sachin136]

Don't know about India, but atleast we don't get blunted in our own home. I'd take an ordinary bowling lineup that is able to put teams like England to the sword.

India just beat the #1 test team 3-0.