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India, New Zealand and England are going through their Golden Era, but how long will it last?

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Never have we seen an Indian team with this good fast bowling
Never ever has England been this good in ODI and may even win their maiden WC.
Similarly NZ team is also very good with many world-class players graduating from bits and pieces cricketers earlier.
Sa is still ok.
Australia, Pakistan,Sl have regressed badly.At this moment Australia and Pak are in similar State.
Thoughts on this new world cricket order
 
Never have we seen an Indian team with this good fast bowling
Never ever has England been this good in ODI and may even win their maiden WC.
Similarly NZ team is also very good with many world-class players graduating from bits and pieces cricketers earlier.
Sa is still ok.
Australia, Pakistan,Sl have regressed badly.At this moment Australia and Pak are in similar State.
Thoughts on this new world cricket order

My question is that how long will this last? India's case this could be for a long time. Not sure about New Zealand or England.
 
England’s test batting is its weakest in history. The top order are continually being bailed out by six through nine.

The ODI bowling is pedestrian and will not win the WC. Not that I care. The Ashes are the big prize this year.
 
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Even ignoring my bias, I think India's golden run can last for at least another 5 years. Shaw, Gill, Kohli, Pujara, Bumrah, etc should be able to keep India at #1 for a long time.
 
Far from a golden period yet for India. But it's an exciting time simply for the anticipation value of newcomers like Shaw, Gill and Pant taking Indian cricket forward.

No comments on Engerland and Enzed.

Sri Lanka has a lot of very skilled batsmen and spinners coming through. They will get better. No surprise if they reach Semis come the WC'19.
 
No,only NZ is going through their golden phase.
England has finally left its orthodoxy behind and embraced limited overs batting(something pak still hasn't done) and invested heavily(they have 2nd largest resources after bcci) which is paying off.They were always good in tests.


Indian fast bowling is here to stay.Change is after 2011 8-0 debacle,change in ranji pitches which forced teams to get good opening fast bowlers or be bullied,new fitness and strength regimen under kohli,IPL requiring domestic fast bowlers.India always had batsmen and infact our batting right now is nothing special,just about par - certainly not comparable to the golden generation.
 
As long as they keep discarding tried and tested failures India can hang around for a while as many of them are youngsters. Ofcourse it depends on several factors like form, injury and other external factors. England definitely has a lot of depth that can paper over any crack they have. New zealand also got depth. Kane is a brilliant captain. Probably the best among the three.
 
India is cricket's power house right now. With a robust domestic structure and a large population to feed it they should remain one of the top sides for years to come.
 
England’s test batting is its weakest in history. The top order are continually being bailed out by six through nine.

The ODI bowling is pedestrian and will not win the WC. Not that I care. The Ashes are the big prize this year.
I agree.

I only care about Tests.

I could not care less if we lose every game at the World Cup so long as we beat the Aussies in The Ashes.
 
Never have we seen an Indian team with this good fast bowling
Never ever has England been this good in ODI and may even win their maiden WC.
Similarly NZ team is also very good with many world-class players graduating from bits and pieces cricketers earlier.
Sa is still ok.
Australia, Pakistan,Sl have regressed badly.At this moment Australia and Pak are in similar State.
Thoughts on this new world cricket order

India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.
 
India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.

The best Indian side in my time was the 1986 mob who beat England. Excellent batting and decent bowling. Five of their batters would walk into the current India.
 
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India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.

It's funny to see this chest thumping from Indians. They claim they have the best team after Lloyd's Windies and Waugh's Aussies yet they lost to South Africa and a weak English side (by an Englishman's own admission). It can be down to the fact that India perhaps have never seen this kind of success. Let them enjoy while they can.
 
This is actually a transition period for India, nowhere near golden period. Shaw, Gill, Agarwal and Pant playing together could well mark the start of a golden era.
 
Indian golden period is not started yet. We are still in the transition period and the start of the Test championship will begin our true reign.
 
I prefer our 2007-11 run, starting with the England tour (under Dravid's captaincy) and ending with the 2011 WC. Present team will enter its golden phase after 2-3 years when Shaw, Gill, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Mayank, Pant and a better young crop of quicks and fast bowling A/Rs enter the picture permanently. I just hope BCCI doesn't give up on test cricket by then.
 
I guess England will thump Aussies like there's no tomorrow in Ashes. Aussie batting is in shambles without their batting leaders and even with them in the team, the rest of the batting looks rather weak. How much I would give for Pakistan to tour Australia at this moment!

Yes but Smith will be back for the Ashes.
 
India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.

Something tells me your entire "knowledge" about cricket comes from statsguru.
 
It's funny to see this chest thumping from Indians. They claim they have the best team after Lloyd's Windies and Waugh's Aussies yet they lost to South Africa and a weak English side (by an Englishman's own admission). It can be down to the fact that India perhaps have never seen this kind of success. Let them enjoy while they can.

Show me one post confirming this.
 
English limited overs talent pool is great imo. I don't think they should have any problem till next two decades.
 
I dont think any Indian called this the golden ages and what not. Its not even the best team India can put out currently forget about historical teams.
 
Yes but Smith will be back for the Ashes.

Smith definitely will add a lot of value to their batting. In fact, others like Marsh brothers, Khawaja will rally around Smith and score runs but I think England's allround strength is too tough for Aussies to handle. I predict a 4-1 thrashing to Aussies with Smith winning a game single handedly at Lord's or Oval where the ball doesn't move massively.
 
I am not sure if this is indeed the golden era for India, because teams in golden era - WI of 80s, Australia of 2000s - and then to a lesser degree - England of late 2000s and SA under Graeme Smith - ended up winning a lot of away test series, which India hasn't yet. England won Ashes in Australia, defeated India, SA and Lanka in away series. Similarly, SA won insane amount of away matches and series under Smith. Had India won even one of the away series against Eng or SA, then I would have called it the golden era. Unfortunately, it didn't.
 
India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.

No sane Indian would call it a golden era. I am sure indians are far more matured and less delusional than Pakistan fans who consider an era where they won 4 away test matches over 10 years under Imran 'defensive' Khan and call it their golden era.
 
LOL no Indian is calling it a Golden period but India's performance in Australia is causing some serious heartburn to people whose substandard team is being toyed by SA.:P

Youngsters in Team India have less than 10 test each so it could be the beginning of one.
 
India lost a record SEVEN away Tests in 2018.

They have beaten the weakest Aussie batting line-up for a hundred years. But they can’t call this a Golden Age after being massacred in England and losing the South Africa series inside 7 days.

Aww...so sad. I understand your feelings

Must be really hard to bear this.
 
It's funny to see this chest thumping from Indians. They claim they have the best team after Lloyd's Windies and Waugh's Aussies yet they lost to South Africa and a weak English side (by an Englishman's own admission). It can be down to the fact that India perhaps have never seen this kind of success. Let them enjoy while they can.

I would just say three things.

1. No Indian ever claimed that we are some ATG team.

2. If this England team (that too at home) is weak, then I'd like to know what adjective you'd use for few other teams and you know who I am referring to.

3. Don't be this sour.
 
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