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Can India become the world’s third superpower? It faces huge challenges in 2025​

In an exclusive interview with The Independent in September, Tony Blair made a bold claim – that India will rise to become a global superpower by 2050. “By the middle of this century, you’re going to have three superpowers – America, China, and you’re going to have India. All other countries are going to be small in comparison,” the former prime minister said.

India’s own prime minister, Narendra Modi, has set out similar aspirations, saying India will achieve “developed” status by 2047. He also vowed to make his country “the third largest economic superpower” by the end of his third term, though he made that pledge before a disappointing set of election results that saw him lose his outright majority in June 2024.

Most projections for India’s future strength are based on two simple facts – that it has now surpassed China to become the most populous country in the world, and its $3 trillion economy, already the fifth-largest, is growing at a faster rate than any other major nation.

Beyond simple economics, India’s importance has also risen geopolitically; courted by the US as a counterweight to China in the Asia-Pacific yet able to maintain strong ties to Russia at the same time, it has carved out a niche that could prove a model for other Global South nations. But does diplomatic independence equate to superpower status – or is it the ability to project power abroad that defines American and Chinese dominance?

India surpassed the UK as the world’s fifth-largest economy in 2023, and analysts at Morgan Stanley agree with Modi in predicting it will overtake Japan and Germany to reach third position by 2027.

Yet in a test to Modi’s ambitious plans, India’s economy is experiencing its slowest growth in the last two years, dampening the economic outlook for the full financial year. GDP grew at just 5.4 per cent in the July-September quarter, well below the Reserve Bank of India’s forecast of 7 per cent. Economists say there are signs that the expansion of the Indian economy is losing momentum.

These high GDP growth figures also appear inconsistent with other economic indicators such as employment rates, private consumption and export performance. Consumer expenditure accounts for about 60 per cent of India’s GDP but has been badly affected by a slowdown in urban spending due to food inflation and sluggish real wage growth.

India’s goods exports, typically the main driver of a country’s economic growth, are also flatlining. In the 12 months leading up to August 2024, India’s total goods trade was valued at $1.1 trillion – the same level as it was two years ago.

And then there is the question of whether GDP growth really translates to improved outcomes for the population as a whole. It will be hard for India to claim superpower status for as long as it remains classified as a lower-middle-income country, a designation it has held since 2007, based on its per capita income of around $2,400 (£1,885). The World Bank estimates that it would take another 75 years for India’s average to reach even a quarter of the US.

In its 2024 report World Inequality Lab found that the current golden age of Indian billionaires has led to a dramatic surge in income inequality, placing India among the most unequal countries globally, surpassing the US, Brazil, and South Africa.

According to the economists behind the study, including renowned French economist Thomas Piketty, the income gap between India’s rich and poor has grown so vast that, by some metrics, income distribution in India was more equitable during British colonial rule than it is today.

Piketty, who was in Delhi for a conference in December, said India “should be active in taxing the rich” in order to distribute wealth better. But there are no signs that the eradication of economic inequality is a policy objective for Modi, who has been accused of maintaining close ties with the country’s billionaires and favouring the biggest business magnates with lucrative infrastructure projects, an allegation denied by the ruling BJP.

Former diplomat Shyam Saran, at a recent Chatham House discussion, argued that India undoubtedly has great potential based on its population, economic scale, and significant pool of scientific and technical talent.

“As far as India’s macro impact over the global landscape is concerned, it is certainly expanding, but in terms of the domestic metrics of development, I think those are changing very slowly. So, on the one hand, India is, in terms of GDP, today the fifth largest economy. But its ranking in the Human Development Index is abysmal, at 122 out of 191 countries, and progress has been very slow.” He says these contradictions have to be taken into account when looking at the possibility of India being the next superpower.

China’s economy, once a growth powerhouse, has struggled to regain its pre-pandemic momentum following three years of strict lockdowns. In the last quarter, China’s economy grew at 4.7 per cent, just below its government’s target of 5 per cent, reflecting broader challenges in sustaining its pre-pandemic pace.

Alicia Garcia-Herrero, chief economist for the Asia-Pacific at investment bank Natixis in Hong Kong, tells The Independent that India’s economy needs to grow around 6 per cent each year to become as large as China by 2050 while China’s growth rate will be decelerating up to 1 per cent from 2035 onwards.

“India will [then] be the size of China by 2050. But is this feasible?” she asks, highlighting the “slightly more worrisome” fall in Indian growth in the third quarter. “The forecast of 7 per cent growth for 2024 already seems quite impossible for India,” she adds.

Garcia-Herrero says it is now clear that India will outpace China in terms of growth for many years to come.

“However, the challenges of becoming a superpower are significant. Technology and infrastructure are the main areas, but it’s broader than just that – it involves building a mature society with well-functioning institutions that are not overly influenced by the political party in power.”

Perhaps the clearest indicator of the inconsistency in India’s growth story is the deepening jobs crisis for educated young people, seen as one of the reasons many voters turned away from the BJP in the last election.

The share of educated youths among all unemployed people increased from 54.2 per cent in 2000 to 65.7 per cent in 2022 according to the latest figures by the International Labour Organization. It points to a situation where India, a country with an average age of just 29 years, is failing to utilise what is often described as its demographic dividend.

And there has been no significant rise in real wages in India since 2014, according to numbers computed by noted developmental economist Jean Dreze.

It’s not just the economy where India sees China as its closest competitor. Beijing has emerged as one of the major challenges for India under Modi, with security concerns outweighing economic considerations with its biggest trade partner.

Brutal hand-to-hand combat and high-altitude skirmishes between the armies of the two countries in their shared Himalayan border region since 2020 have led to deaths and injuries on both sides. The two nuclear powers have since mobilised tens of thousands of troops, backed by artillery, tanks, and fighter jets, along their de facto border.

A significant breakthrough came after almost three years of stalemate in October when Beijing and Delhi announced they had reached a deal to disengage from the friction points in the Himalayan border, suggesting a thaw in relations. Two days later, Modi and Xi Jinping were pictured shaking hands and exchanging smiles following their first bilateral meeting in five years. Yet the latest reports suggest there has still been no withdrawal of troops in the region by either side.

India’s refusal to back down in the years-long standoff reflects a general growth in confidence, one that has also seen New Delhi emboldened to tackle individuals who it sees as its enemies – even if they are based abroad. This approach was exemplified when defence minister Rajnath Singh, asked about extrajudicial killings in Pakistan that India had previously denied involvement in, finally declared: “We will go to Pakistan and kill” those who threaten India’s peace.

The Indian government is also accused of orchestrating targeted killings of those involved in a Sikh separatist movement abroad, in both the US and Canada. While the government has denied these allegations, it has vowed to defeat the pro-Khalistan movement internationally, having effectively quashed it at home.

“India has emerged more confident and more present under Modi’s leadership on the global stage, as Delhi has led itself with confidence and assertiveness that I think has really stood out and that has led to a number of favourable outcomes for India’s interests”, says Michael Kugelman, director of the Wilson Centre’s South Asia Institute.

“And that entails strengthened relations with the US as well as partnership with a number of regions and countries on unprecedented levels,” he adds.

In 2023, India became the chair of the G20 summit and hosted the biggest diplomatic event in the country in years. Modi presented India as the “Vishwaguru” or global teacher, and the government was accused of making a meal out of what was merely a rotating G20 presidency.

“India’s star shines a bit brighter on the global stage due to its relatively successful leadership of the G20. India’s ability to get leaders to agree on a statement that included a reference to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, despite the issue being very divisive globally, was a notable achievement,” says Rick Rossow, director of US-India policy studies at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

“However, these achievements may not translate into tangible benefits like increased investment or development aid for India. The focus on global leadership under Modi’s tenure, while notable, is perceived by some as flashy rather than substantive.”

“So, at the end of the day, leadership in the G20 makes it feel like India is taking its role as a major power, but when you think about what other countries actually want from a major power, India still doesn’t have a lot of capacity to deliver, whether it’s aid, outbound investment, trade, that kind of thing.”

To solidify India’s status as a net security provider, Rossow says India needs to continue building out its power projection capabilities, accelerate the production of its second domestic carrier, and get more fourth-generation, maybe even fifth-generation fighter aircraft inducted into the air force and navy.

“I think there’s still a lot more that India can do and will do as the country continues to grow economically and in population,” says Rossow.


 
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Edit: Just read the article some extremely good points and agree with most of the French guys’s suggestion.
 
It is inevitable. The country has the perfect mix of population, talent, area to be a prominent power in the world.

Although that’s not to be confused with being a high income country. We are most likely falling into a middle income trap and that’s a separate debate. For that neither is US #1 in per capita income, although they’re right up there.

Bharat’s future is middle income economy, lots of billionaires and many trillionaires, top 3 in size of economy and military
 
It is inevitable. The country has the perfect mix of population, talent, area to be a prominent power in the world.

Although that’s not to be confused with being a high income country. We are most likely falling into a middle income trap and that’s a separate debate. For that neither is US #1 in per capita income, although they’re right up there.

Bharat’s future is middle income economy, lots of billionaires and many trillionaires, top 3 in size of economy and military
The article is not what you seem it is, it has valid critic of the Indian economic model esp that of income inequality and educated unemployment increase from 2000 to 2022.

We need a balance, the increase in entrepreneurship is there but systems are still not in place.

US might not have highest per capita income but its the place people flock to who know if they work hard they will reach higher levels compared to their country.
 
It is inevitable. The country has the perfect mix of population, talent, area to be a prominent power in the world.

Although that’s not to be confused with being a high income country. We are most likely falling into a middle income trap and that’s a separate debate. For that neither is US #1 in per capita income, although they’re right up there.

Bharat’s future is middle income economy, lots of billionaires and many trillionaires, top 3 in size of economy and military

Lol. You've misunderstood the article.
 
From the article:
“I think there’s still a lot more that India can do and will do as the country continues to grow economically and in population,”

I personally share this opinion but I do think a change is needed in GOI, either the BJP guard needs to get it’s non-billionaire backed leadership in or Congress needs to get Gandhis out, so they can come in.
 
Haha in which terms military, economic or development wise? How? Poverty is still not eradicated in India and in military terms they are still far behind Russia and China. Economically yes they’ve improved but there’s no plan to compete with China.
 
Haha in which terms military, economic or development wise? How? Poverty is still not eradicated in India and in military terms they are still far behind Russia and China. Economically yes they’ve improved but there’s no plan to compete with China.
No one can compete with China except US, the very reason China can compete with US is because of US itself- Nixon etc.
 
If the posters read the article and not the headline you will recognise it says India needs to do better if it aims to be a superpower by 2050 and the hurdles to that “aim”.
 
For that the economy has to become $10 Trillion first. The GDP Percapita has to triple or Quadruple.

Right now, India's per capita is about $2,300. Not significantly different from Pakistan which stands at $1,400.

India's GDP per capita has to increase to $10,000 to be on par with other Asia Pacific nations whose GDP per capita on average is around $9,000.

India also has to stop relying on Russia and US for its military infra and weapons. It has to invest heavily in domestic industries and build the infra structure. Not going to be easy. But they are on path to get there. Will take at least 15-20 yrs IMO.
 
In all honestly I stopped reading after the words Tony Blair. He is a devilish human being.
lol I don’t blame you but they put his name for that very reason, that his words can’t be taken seriously.

He was good for India though, but now that I see back he was trying to recruit all Indian software guys for his corporate buddies.
 
No one can compete with China except US, the very reason China can compete with US is because of US itself- Nixon etc.
India is becoming a superpower only in third class Bollywood movies. I regret watching Singham Returns. I wasted two hours of my life. It was clear what agenda India is trying to push into the minds of the youth. This artificial image will shatter once people realize the truth and India will have already fallen far from its supposed dominance.
 
India is becoming a superpower only in third class Bollywood movies. I regret watching Singham Returns. I wasted two hours of my life. It was clear what agenda India is trying to push into the minds of the youth. This artificial image will shatter once people realize the truth and India will have already fallen far from its supposed dominance.
It is on track. Not there yet.

We are a minimum 2 decades away from it.
 
It is on track. Not there yet.

We are a minimum 2 decades away from it.
That’s exactly what I’m saying that it’s all just illusion. In reality it’s all artificial. India is decades behind developed countries when it comes to technology development and sustainable progress.
 
That’s exactly what I’m saying that it’s all just illusion. In reality it’s all artificial. India is decades behind developed countries when it comes to technology development and sustainable progress.
US is behind Japan in sustainable progress.. those are weird words just saying.
 
India is becoming a superpower only in third class Bollywood movies. I regret watching Singham Returns. I wasted two hours of my life. It was clear what agenda India is trying to push into the minds of the youth. This artificial image will shatter once people realize the truth and India will have already fallen far from its supposed dominance.
Did it become a hit , no.
Did Pushpa 2 become a blockbuster , yes.
Only hit movies propaganda gets counted.
 
US is behind Japan in sustainable progress.. those are weird words just saying.
Yes that means Japan is also miles ahead of India. I’ll consider India a developed country when your city Bihar will be like Tokyo and your entire country is as safe as the UAE.
 
Yes that means Japan is also miles ahead of India. I’ll consider India a developed country when your city Bihar will be like Tokyo and your entire country is as safe as the UAE.
You could had just said it’s not possible.
As in that logic neither is China , yet you keep saying China is.
China does many atrocities on it’s population, so its not a super power?
 
You could had just said it’s not possible.
As in that logic neither is China , yet you keep saying China is.
China does many atrocities on it’s population, so its not a super power?
So are you telling me it’s okay to commit atrocities and still claim to be a superpower?

What are the criteria for being called a superpower? In my opinion they are:

1. Military power
2. Technology
3. Sustainable development
4. Economy
5. Employment

Tell me honestly where does India stand in these areas compared to Japan? Except for military India is nowhere near Japan let alone China.
 
And yes if India is becoming a superpower as claimed by the so called godi media then why do millions of Indians migrate to developed countries? They are becoming a population burden around the world. Why don’t they stay in their socalled superpower country instead? Lol
 
And yes if India is becoming a superpower as claimed by the so called godi media then why do millions of Indians migrate to developed countries? They are becoming a population burden around the world. Why don’t they stay in their socalled superpower country instead? Lol
That is because they are developing nation and not a super power yet. Duh!!

You don't see Brits or French trying to enter US in large numbers like people from poor and developing world. The nations that are already doing well do not have citizens trying their luck in developed nations.
 
That is because they are developing nation and not a super power yet. Duh!!

You don't see Brits or French trying to enter US in large numbers like people from poor and developing world. The nations that are already doing well do not have citizens trying their luck in developed nations.
Finally sanity prevails.
 
Finally sanity prevails.
Other than ultra nationalists in India, no one remotely considers India a developed nation and a super power. I always maintained that India with its massive population is not going anywhere at least for the next decade or so. Population is still growing though it is decelerating at good pace. It takes time for the massive population train to come to a halt.

As I said, India is 15-20 yrs away from being considered a developed nation and a super power. Which means 2040-2050. Long way away. But it is on track and the track is not an easy one. Many things can go wrong and there will be many plots by foreign elements to derail it. Only time will tell.
 
So are you telling me it’s okay to commit atrocities and still claim to be a superpower?

What are the criteria for being called a superpower? In my opinion they are:

1. Military power
2. Technology
3. Sustainable development
4. Economy
5. Employment

Tell me honestly where does India stand in these areas compared to Japan? Except for military India is nowhere near Japan let alone China.
The only super powers now are US and China based on what most people say, not Japan.

Japan is awesome but not really a super power, also don’t get lost in your thought process, majority Indians criticise GOI policies that hurdle their ambition that’s the reason there are improvement in entrepreneurship and quality of graduates , digital economy etc.

Also China is nowhere near Japan except Military in many of those points you mentioned, they take out genocides every two decades or so.

Also Japan is bad in military as they have been restricted , if they had no restriction they would beat China in that, the only reason I’m saying that is because you seem to think China is better in Japan in those stuff.
 
Other than ultra nationalists in India, no one remotely considers India a developed nation and a super power. I always maintained that India with its massive population is not going anywhere at least for the next decade or so. Population is still growing though it is decelerating at good pace. It takes time for the massive population train to come to a halt.

As I said, India is 15-20 yrs away from being considered a developed nation and a super power. Which means 2040-2050. Long way away. But it is on track and the track is not an easy one. Many things can go wrong and there will be many plots by foreign elements to derail it. Only time will tell.
Their point is India has done no improvement since 1991, from whatever I read or gone exponentially down since 2014.
I could be wrong but that’s what it seems to be.
 
And yes if India is becoming a superpower as claimed by the so called godi media then why do millions of Indians migrate to developed countries? They are becoming a population burden around the world. Why don’t they stay in their socalled superpower country instead? Lol

Exactly.

If India is becoming a superpower, why are Indians leaving India in big numbers? That's a dead giveaway.
 
I needed a good laugh and this thread was it.

Dream on.

India will NEVER be a superpower. Superpowers do not exhibit brain drains. The majority of Indians are fleeing this so called upcoming superpower. Indians rather be subservient to the white-man in the West than stay in India, with it, relinquish their Indian identity.

This talk of India being a superpower is all propaganda, and to prove it, just go ask the Indians who are desperate to flee India, why they are leaving an upcoming superpower - cos its all blag.
 
Super powaa in cooking khiyali palao.... Delusional bunch, massive poverty hunger, toilet crisis, hunger crisis, population crisis, unemployment crisis, corruption, income disparity, few rich getting richer while majority awam trying to run away in the first beat to many Muslim countries or West or any timbaktu place. Condition of that third world country is all visible in hundreds of posted videos with filth l, unhygiene and poverty all apparent. Santanatan sanghi Hindudva radicals delusional comments here sure make for a good laugh
 
Super powaa in cooking khiyali palao.... Delusional bunch, massive poverty hunger, toilet crisis, hunger crisis, population crisis, unemployment crisis, corruption, income disparity, few rich getting richer while majority awam trying to run away in the first beat to many Muslim countries or West or any timbaktu place. Condition of that third world country is all visible in hundreds of posted videos with filth l, unhygiene and poverty all apparent. Santanatan sanghi Hindudva radicals delusional comments here sure make for a good laugh
You will become your display pic if you start reacting to everything online , just saying. Have a good weekend.
 
You will become your display pic if you start reacting to everything online , just saying. Have a good weekend.

It's a pic of one of the best bowlers ever produced by the game we all love in subcontinent. I have had this pic since 2007, been on and off here and I am still all sane and sure have seen Hindudva posters becoming more and more delusional with time. If anything I laugh more now at them and sure more face-palm moments with their idiotic comical delusions and also their deeply rooted islamophobia is quite sickening to read
 
It's a pic of one of the best bowlers ever produced by the game we all love in subcontinent. I have had this pic since 2007, been on and off here and I am still all sane and sure have seen Hindudva posters becoming more and more delusional with time. If anything I laugh more now at them and sure more face-palm moments with their idiotic comical delusions and also their deeply rooted islamophobia is quite sickening to read
I was lurking from 2011-2014, been here since then , I have noticed all predictions on Indian Economic and people by Pakistanis as well , that has been equally delusional.

Guess truth is in the middle.
 
We will not let it happen.

@sweep_shot @KingLiton you cover your side and I will cover ours.

Any Chinese lurker here please pay heed to this message too and ensure we keep an eye on Indians aspirations.

@chinaman00 I'm not sure if you are Chinese but tag you just in case.

Not a Chinese, but India won’t become a superpower in the next 300-years. India faces too many structural and scientific challenges to become even an Asian superpower. Don’t fall for the Hindu nationalist propaganda.
 
I did not realize the high levels of internal conflict in India until I saw this. Does this mean India is bound to break up soon?

 
Fantasy doesn't cost you a dime, but it sure has the ability to bring a smile on your face.
 
I did not realize the high levels of internal conflict in India until I saw this. Does this mean India is bound to break up soon?

On the contrary, it shows how strong Ind is despite its enormous diversity, multiple languages and cultures. A more apt name would be United States of Ind because it is more like EU than a single nation. A strong vibrant secular democracy. Is it perfect ? Surely no. But the fundamentals are strong unlike its neighbors except China.
 
@Savak

Brother I always believe it’s not about how powerful you get but about what you can do with such influence. Whether you use it for the good or use it to dominate others.

It doesn’t matter to me if we are #4,3,2 or 1 but I hope we are able to play a positive role in the human progress story. That’s most important.
 
India’s own prime minister, Narendra Modi, has set out similar aspirations, saying India will achieve “developed” status by 2047.

LOL. I highly doubt this. They seem too busy with Mughals and cows. :inti

China is likely going to be a genuine superpower (they are one already).
 
Too many hurdles and India is still decades away from it.
First and foremost, India needs a stable government at the center. India has to execute everything to perfection to become world no.3 by 2050. Even then, the standard of living will still be mediocre compared to other developed countries.
 
LOL. I highly doubt this. They seem too busy with Mughals and cows. :inti

China is likely going to be a genuine superpower (they are one already).
Mughals and cows are political stunt. They will not stop India from modernizing. Each new generation is embracing modernity and are fully aware of things happening around the world. Even kids from smaller cities and towns.
 
Manmohan Singh once said in around 2006 that India will be a developed nation by 2020.
India like China is in a very weird place, aka it's inevitable that they'll become a super power, but at the same time their forever stuck in the developing country phase. It's very difficult to get a capita > 11,000 in a country with over 1B people.

But power wise they will have the same influence as China eventually. It's inevitable. Atm they are behind.

Besides aus, USA, Canada and other countries would want India to succeed as despite coming forward it is an untapped market. If I wasa business owner and was seeking to expand globally, India is the first thing that comes to mind due to the 1B market while China is a genuine pain in the @ss towards anyone international.
 
India like China is in a very weird place, aka it's inevitable that they'll become a super power, but at the same time their forever stuck in the developing country phase. It's very difficult to get a capita > 11,000 in a country with over 1B people.

But power wise they will have the same influence as China eventually. It's inevitable. Atm they are behind.

Besides aus, USA, Canada and other countries would want India to succeed as despite coming forward it is an untapped market. If I wasa business owner and was seeking to expand globally, India is the first thing that comes to mind due to the 1B market while China is a genuine pain in the @ss towards anyone international.

We are going to be stuck in a middle income trap until we and Pakistan and China resolve our issues in which case we could transform in 100-200 years to high income countries
 
We are going to be stuck in a middle income trap until we and Pakistan and China resolve our issues in which case we could transform in 100-200 years to high income countries
China has no issues or ongoing conflicts with India and Pakistan in a traditional sense.

What you're not understanding is that the Chinese goverment are unwilling to cooperate with any nation period.

Infact if it wasn't for the western allies (continent of America, European Union, Commonwealth) they would have instantly invaded Taiwan and Hong Kong and reclaimed their throne.

They do not wish to cooperate. They made life hell of most foreign companies like banning Google and all their products, Microsoft and all their products, preventing Amazon for opening up a physical office only opening up a virtual office, and even Banning tiktok since China uses the original version of tiktok called dyojin and the international version called tiktok is banned. Canva, Atlassin and Affinity aka 3 Aussie companies are also banned.

Then language wise, these people don't even wish to learn English to communicate. Western Translators who decided to learn mandarin have to be present during meetings international political talks cause these people don't want to learn.

Their universities are Chinese speaking 😭😭.

Then you have the fact they are the world's hardest country to legally immigrate to as even marriage to a Chinese citizen means zilch, these guys are more stubborn then UAE. Their only friendly to Hong Kong and Taiwan for immigration but that's due to manipulation of rejoining them eventually.

Then trade wise these guys impose more tariffs then any other country. USA is just now getting a shocker cause trump is insane but for China it's been a norm 🤣.

Then they are even more stubborn then Russia, to this date they remain a communist nation and are completly against democracy and freedom of speech.

From which angle do you see these guys cooperating with India or Pakistan in any capacity other then simply saying "Their their boys we are friends 🫠"

Language wise, Immigration wise, Trade wise, resources wise, and heck even association wise they are against the entire planet.

Unlike USA, Australia, UK that will still help other nations assuming it serves their own self interests, China won't even do that.

You could offer China 500 trillion dollars to do something, and they still won't do it. That's how stubborn they are.
 
We are going to be stuck in a middle income trap until we and Pakistan and China resolve our issues in which case we could transform in 100-200 years to high income countries
Also why are you so concerned with forming relations with China and Pakistan?

India forming a relationship with Pakistan (assuming it's a proper relationship and not a racism war type nonsense), doesn't benefit anyone except Pakistan. Pakistan has nothing to offer India?

If anything it damages India more. The reason why India doesn't allow Pakistan in IPL isn't entirely due to terrorism. Yes India believes Pakistan is a terrorist country but they are not that stupid that they will witness Australia travel to Pakistan and delusional believe it's unsafe.

The true reason they don't allow it is because they will have to pay for extra security irrespective of whether Pakistan attacks or not. Same case with them travelling to Pakistan, Bcci isn't going to just leave it to Pakistani officials to protect their players.

They would have pay heaps and loads of cash to authorise and entire fleet of soldiers to protect their players for a match.

and these are just 11 to 15 players. Imagine how much debt they would be in if they extended it to 220M people?

They don't have to worry about other countries except USA. If let's say Australia forms a terrorist group and sends it to India, America will end Australia right their and end.

They have to worry about usa but then again every country does, so that's unavoidable but usa deapite being a shady isn't a killer blood hungry nation.

but the west isn't going to do anything shpuld Pakistan attack, and if India fights back, then the west will pull out since they'll view both countries as unsafe.

No way would India take the risk of jeopardising their relationship with the west, and paying so much for 220M people on the off-chance that some nutcase comes along and causes another commotion.

India has everything to lose in this fight.

As for China, forget about it. If it wasn't for USA, they'd be marching onto invade any Asian territory that has Chinese, Malaysian or true Asian faces. Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia and Taiwan would be a part of China if the west didn't keep these guys in line.
 
China has no issues or ongoing conflicts with India and Pakistan in a traditional sense.

What you're not understanding is that the Chinese goverment are unwilling to cooperate with any nation period.

Infact if it wasn't for the western allies (continent of America, European Union, Commonwealth) they would have instantly invaded Taiwan and Hong Kong and reclaimed their throne.

They do not wish to cooperate. They made life hell of most foreign companies like banning Google and all their products, Microsoft and all their products, preventing Amazon for opening up a physical office only opening up a virtual office, and even Banning tiktok since China uses the original version of tiktok called dyojin and the international version called tiktok is banned. Canva, Atlassin and Affinity aka 3 Aussie companies are also banned.

Then language wise, these people don't even wish to learn English to communicate. Western Translators who decided to learn mandarin have to be present during meetings international political talks cause these people don't want to learn.

Their universities are Chinese speaking 😭😭.

Then you have the fact they are the world's hardest country to legally immigrate to as even marriage to a Chinese citizen means zilch, these guys are more stubborn then UAE. Their only friendly to Hong Kong and Taiwan for immigration but that's due to manipulation of rejoining them eventually.

Then trade wise these guys impose more tariffs then any other country. USA is just now getting a shocker cause trump is insane but for China it's been a norm 🤣.

Then they are even more stubborn then Russia, to this date they remain a communist nation and are completly against democracy and freedom of speech.

From which angle do you see these guys cooperating with India or Pakistan in any capacity other then simply saying "Their their boys we are friends 🫠"

Language wise, Immigration wise, Trade wise, resources wise, and heck even association wise they are against the entire planet.

Unlike USA, Australia, UK that will still help other nations assuming it serves their own self interests, China won't even do that.

You could offer China 500 trillion dollars to do something, and they still won't do it. That's how stubborn they are.
Two reasons. They are a very proud culture with a long history and have made amazing technological contributions which we take for granted: Gun powder/explosives, petroleum/fossil fuel, pasta and more.

Gun boat diplomacy by the brits and then in their introduction of Opium into china to wreck their society.

Bascially their are pretty pissed at the baakgwai and have been for a long time.
 
Two reasons. They are a very proud culture with a long history and have made amazing technological contributions which we take for granted: Gun powder/explosives, petroleum/fossil fuel, pasta and more.

Gun boat diplomacy by the brits and then in their introduction of Opium into china to wreck their society.

Bascially their are pretty pissed at the baakgwai and have been for a long time.
It's not just that. Their also a country that can stand on its own 2 feet.

The biggest issue with USA is that while it's a powerful country, they still have to share resources in order to survive.

If the west stops sharing resources, then every economy will take a hit. Yes USA will be less impacted, Australia and Canada will definitely suffer more and UK will just collapse altogether.

The whole reason trump introduced his 5M dollars golden Green card rule was to end the 10T debt that USA is currently having.

However that's not the case with China, for example China's thorium resources allows them to power their nation for the next 60,000 years.

If anything the west has caused them more problems, they keep interfering and destroying their society, otherwise if all countries stop sharing resources, China is the only country that will be unaffected. They'll be fine for 60,000 years lol.
 
It's not just that. Their also a country that can stand on its own 2 feet.

The biggest issue with USA is that while it's a powerful country, they still have to share resources in order to survive.

If the west stops sharing resources, then every economy will take a hit. Yes USA will be less impacted, Australia and Canada will definitely suffer more and UK will just collapse altogether.

The whole reason trump introduced his 5M dollars golden Green card rule was to end the 10T debt that USA is currently having.

However that's not the case with China, for example China's thorium resources allows them to power their nation for the next 60,000 years.

If anything the west has caused them more problems, they keep interfering and destroying their society, otherwise if all countries stop sharing resources, China is the only country that will be unaffected. They'll be fine for 60,000 years lol.

Going by what Trump is going ahead with, World economy can shrink by as much as 50% in the coming decade.
Trump and other nationalists will still remain in power.
China will not be able to manage the prosperity it has gained. There is lot of leverage in the economy that will have a cascading impact on everything else. An invasion of Taiwan is not out of the question.
Rulers will shift blame towards "videshi taakatein" and since economies will be getting decoupled, declaring wars will be easier.
 
Going by what Trump is going ahead with, World economy can shrink by as much as 50% in the coming decade.
Trump and other nationalists will still remain in power.
China will not be able to manage the prosperity it has gained. There is lot of leverage in the economy that will have a cascading impact on everything else. An invasion of Taiwan is not out of the question.
Rulers will shift blame towards "videshi taakatein" and since economies will be getting decoupled, declaring wars will be easier.
Naw, It'll depend on the country.

Australia, NZ will remain unaffected.

Main players will be China, USA and by extension Mexico and Canda and UK.

Don't see why Germany, France, Italy would be affected.
 
Mughals and cows are political stunt. They will not stop India from modernizing. Each new generation is embracing modernity and are fully aware of things happening around the world. Even kids from smaller cities and towns.

Why would they need such political stunts? Ask yourself that question. Nations which are modernising and bringing their civilians a better lifestyle which is akin to first world modern countries like UAE, Turkey or Malaysia don't need to whip up religious hatred. Their living standards speak for themselves.
 
Why would they need such political stunts? Ask yourself that question. Nations which are modernising and bringing their civilians a better lifestyle which is akin to first world modern countries like UAE, Turkey or Malaysia don't need to whip up religious hatred. Their living standards speak for themselves.

Because those countries don't have a rogue minority that lives by medieval rules and eulogize medieval vermins like Aurangzeb, Babar,Tippu etc. Trying to deal with such medieval demography using 1st world civilized norms is suicidal.
 
Why would they need such political stunts? Ask yourself that question. Nations which are modernising and bringing their civilians a better lifestyle which is akin to first world modern countries like UAE, Turkey or Malaysia don't need to whip up religious hatred. Their living standards speak for themselves.
How do you think every political party gets votes in India?
Congress plays caste politics.
Dravidian parties play language politics
Some smaller parties like Samajwadi Party, MIM play Muslim card.
BJP plays Hindu card.
Some Dalit parties outright plays their own politics demanding votes from Dalits and Tribals.

India is a fractured society. Every dog tries to get its pie by biting into its favorite part. BJP stays in power because it is pro-Hindu and Hindus are the largest voting block. So any other party that demands votes based on caste or minorities automatically become secular because they hide under the umbrella of Dalit, Low caste, minority rights and protection. India will not progress at accelerated pace unless people put their identity behind and work for the country's development and self improvement. As long as they hide behind their identity, they will forever remain backward and think their dirty streets are actually awesome.
Its not just India that suffers from this BS. Many countries that are multi racial and multi religious also suffer from it. Everyone tries to hide behind their identity and work for their own community even if it is detrimental to the larger society and country.
 
Because those countries don't have a rogue minority that lives by medieval rules and eulogize medieval vermins like Aurangzeb, Babar,Tippu etc. Trying to deal with such medieval demography using 1st world civilized norms is suicidal.

Muslims are really a huge problem in India, this seems to be what you are saying. What a shame for the wonderful Hindus, I hope you find some solution for this.
 
Muslims are really a huge problem in India, this seems to be what you are saying. What a shame for the wonderful Hindus, I hope you find some solution for this.

absolutely !! Just look at how much time and resources are needed to deal with this medieval nonsense. For example the Ram Mandir episode was in courts for 45 yrs ( I am only counting the years since independence and not the decades that were spent prior to 1947 ) before Hindus correctly took matters in their hand and demolished the abominable mosque that stood squarely on a Temple with the help of pillars from the demolished original temple in plain sight. And if that wasn't sobering they have now doubled down on the two remaining holy sites that have the exact same problem of rogue muslims encroaching what are well known sacred hindu sites.

This is why there can never be any peace or meaningful fast paced progress in India.
 
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