What's new

India, Pakistan in same group for Asia Cup 2023 as ACC announces Calendar for 2023/24

MenInG

PakPassion Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Runs
217,928

==

Arch-rivals India and Pakistan are in the same group for the Asia Cup 2023, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) president Jay Shah confirmed on Thursday. Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary and Asian Cricket Council (ACC) president Jay Shah on Thursday announced the cricket calendar of the council for 2023 and 2024 and a pathway structure for qualification to the Men's and Women's Asia Cup.

"Presenting the @ACCMedia1 pathway structure & cricket calendars for 2023 & 2024! This signals our unparalleled efforts & passion to take this game to new heights. With cricketers across countries gearing up for spectacular performances, it promises to be a good time for cricket!," tweeted Shah.

As per the new calendar, 2023 will start off with Men's Challengers Cup, a ten-team fifty-over tournament. This tournament will feature 10 teams, out of which eight are Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Bhutan, China, Myanmar, Maldives, Thailand and Iran. Two teams are yet to be named. There will be two groups of five teams each. A total of 23 matches will be played.

In March, a Men's Under-16 Regional tournament will be held. The tournament will feature eight teams, region-wise.

The winners and runners-up of the aforementioned Men's Challengers Cup will qualify for Men's Premier Cup, a 50-over tournament. This competition will be played in April and will span 24 matches. There will be ten teams divided in two groups of five matches. The teams confirmed for the tournament are, UAE, Nepal, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia.

In June, a Women's T20 Emerging Teams Asia Cup will be held. It will feature eight teams, divided in groups of two each. One group will feature India A, Pakistan A, Thailand and Hong Kong. The other group will have teams like Sri Lanka A, Bangladesh A, UAE, Malaysia.

Next up will be Men's Emerging Teams Asia Cup, a 50-over tournament. The top-three teams of the tournament will qualify for this tournament. This competition will have eight teams, divided in two groups of four each. The first group will feature India A, Pakistan A, Sri Lanka A and Qualifier 1. The other group will have Afghanistan A, Bangladesh A and Qualifier 2 and 3. This tournament will have 15 matches.

In August, a Men's L2 Coaching Course and a Curators Workshop will be held.

The men's Asia Cup, the main tournament of ACC, will be held in September. It will feature six teams, divided in two groups of three teams. India, Pakistan and Qualifier 1 (the winner of Men's Premier Cup) is in one group while Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are in the other. A total of 13 matches will be held in the tournament.

In October, November, and December, one tournament each for Men's Under 19 Cricket will be held. A Challengers Cup will kick off things for Under-19 cricketers in October. The tournament will feature 10 matches and will be divided in group of five each. In the first group will be Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Bhutan, China and a Qualifier. The other group will have Myanmar, Maldives, Thailand, Iran and Qualifer 2.

Men's Under-19 Premier Cup will be held in November, which will feature ten teams. The first group will feature UAE, Kuwait, Nepal, Qatar and Qualifier 1. The next group will have Oman, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia and a second qualifier. It will feature the winner of the Challengers Cup.

In December will be held the Men's Asia Cup at the under-19 level, featuring the winner, runner up and a third-place finish team from Premier Cup. Teams confirmed for this tournament are, India, Pakistan in Group 1 along with two qualifiers and Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan final qualifier in Group 2.

The year 2024 will start off with Men's T20 Challenger Cup in February and the Women's T20 Challenger Cup in March. In men's tournament will feature Asian cricket's associate teams ranking from 14 to 23, while associate teams ranked from nine to 18 will be in the women's tournament.

Winner and runner-up of this tournament will be qualifying for Men's and Women's T20 Premier Cup, to be held in April and May respectively. The men's tournament will have 10 teams, all associate teams ranking from 6-13 along with qualifiers. The women's tournament will have six teams, featuring associate teams ranked from five to eight and two qualifiers.

In August, a Men's L3 coaching course and A Curators Workshop will be held.

In September and October, Women's T20 Asia Cup and Men's Under-19 Asia Cup will be held. The top two teams of the Women's Premier Cup will join the T20 Asia Cup. It will have 16 matches and six teams, divided in two groups of three each. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh will be in one group while the other will have Sri Lanka and two qualifiers.

The Men's Under-19 Asia Cup in October will have eight teams. In one group will be India, Pakistan, Qualifer 1 and 2 and the other group will have Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Qualifier 3.

The Men's T20 Emerging Teams Asia Cup will be held in December after an Umpires Workshop in November. This tournament will feature top three teams from the Under-19 Premier Cup and overall eight teams, divided in two groups of four teams. India A, Pakistan A, Sri Lanka A and Qualifier 1. The other group will feature Bangladesh A, Afghanistan A and Qualifier 2 and 3.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
What a surprise.
Jay Shah doesn't want to play in Pakistan but wants to play Pakistan as many times as possible in Asia Cup.
 
What a surprise to see us in the same group AGAIN. Surprise surprise surprise.
 
Guess Modi ji should be reprimanding Jay Shah for continually forcing India to play cricket with an evil nation like Pakistan.
 
The hypocrisy. I dont even understand how the total number of matches of Asia Cup is 13. 6 teams play each other once means 5 plus super 4 matches will be 3. Shouldn't the total be 9 matches?
 
What a surprise.
Jay Shah doesn't want to play in Pakistan but wants to play Pakistan as many times as possible in Asia Cup.

Paisa bolta hai.

This is a pattern repeated again and again.
 
What a surprise.
Jay Shah doesn't want to play in Pakistan but wants to play Pakistan as many times as possible in Asia Cup.



BCCI doesn't take a dime from the ACC. Other boards do.So it doesn't matter financially for BCCI.
 
I think India should go to Pakistan to Play Asia cup .UAE is such a dull place to play cricket and in Pakistan we can see lots of hype due to india touring after so many year .
 
The hypocrisy. I dont even understand how the total number of matches of Asia Cup is 13. 6 teams play each other once means 5 plus super 4 matches will be 3. Shouldn't the total be 9 matches?

In a round-robin, if n teams are playing one match each against the other teams,
the number of matches = (n x n -1) / 2.

In the first round, there are two groups with 3 teams each. With n =3,

number of matches in group 1 = (3 x 2)/2 = 3
number of matches in group 2 = (3 x 2)/2 = 3

In the super 4: n = 4
number of matches = (4 x 3) /2 = 6

Final: 1 match

Total number of matches in the tournament = 3 + 3 + 6 + 1 = 13
 
What a surprise.
Jay Shah doesn't want to play in Pakistan but wants to play Pakistan as many times as possible in Asia Cup.

I can understand it when ICC puts India and Pakistan in the same group and BCCI say they can't control it, but I don't get it when the two teams are in the same group when Jay Shah is heading up the ACC.

I thought BCCI didn't want to play against Pakistan.
 
BCCI doesn't take a dime from the ACC. Other boards do.So it doesn't matter financially for BCCI.

If it is such a bad business deal for BCCI, why does it keep losing money by associating with these farcical ICC's and ACC's? Why not resign from all leagues and just commercialize cricket independently? We keep on hearing "millions and billions" from the Indian fans, and then the stories of BCCI's benevolence from the same delusional fans. They conveniently ignore a very simple fact: these billions are worth zero if other boards are not on board.
 

Media Advisory

January 6th, 2023

Asian Cricket Council responds to PCB Chairman’s social media comments

The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) on Thursday announced the ACC Calendar 2023-24 and the pathway structure.

It has come to our knowledge that PCB Chairman Mr. Najam Sethi has made a comment on the ACC President unilaterally taking the decision on finalising the calendar and announcing the same. The ACC wants to clarify that it has followed established due process. The calendar was approved by its Development Committee and Finance & Marketing Committee in a meeting held on December 13th, 2022.

The calendar was then communicated to all the participating members individually, including Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), via an email dated December 22nd, 2022. While responses were received from certain Member Boards, no comments or suggested modifications were received from PCB.

In view of the above, Mr. Sethi’s comments on a social media platform are baseless and are vehemently denied by the ACC.

Asia Cricket Council

https://asiancricket.org/asian-cricket-council-responds-to-pcb-chairmans-social-media-comments/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Interesting that the format of releases by ACC and BCCI are the same :D


ACC

sggvgCR.png



BCCI

bHmDp07.png
 
If it is such a bad business deal for BCCI, why does it keep losing money by associating with these farcical ICC's and ACC's? Why not resign from all leagues and just commercialize cricket independently? We keep on hearing "millions and billions" from the Indian fans, and then the stories of BCCI's benevolence from the same delusional fans. They conveniently ignore a very simple fact: these billions are worth zero if other boards are not on board.


India doesn't need money from the ACC, but particiates so that money csn be used by other nations. India does take its share from ICC.

Why will the other boards not on board? India tours are perhaps one of the few tours that make profits for the boards.

What's delusional about BCCI's benevolence? A number of board's have said how BCCI has helped them.
 
Najam Sethi is deliberately trying to pick a fight here and trying to be a fake revolutionary. What the ACC has said can be easily verified from other boards.
 
Najam Sethi is another clown like Ramiz Raja

Why can't we have young and dynamic leaders leading PCB
 
India doesn't need money from the ACC, but particiates so that money csn be used by other nations. India does take its share from ICC.

Why will the other boards not on board? India tours are perhaps one of the few tours that make profits for the boards.

What's delusional about BCCI's benevolence? A number of board's have said how BCCI has helped them.

Why is India happy to help the PCB via playing them in the asia cup?
 
Jay Shah is incompetent and there due to nepotism. He is not young and dynamic
This.

He just appears to be good because of moolah BCCI has at its command. However, if we see the state of Indian cricket, it has only gone from good to worse under him.

He owes everything he has in his life to motabhai.
 
Why is India happy to help the PCB via playing them in the asia cup?
Followers are funny. They not only defend their political masters till their last breath but also their incompetent kids, no matter what!
 
Najam Sethi in an interview

"Obviously, we want to host Asia Cup in Pakistan since all the top international teams are now touring Pakistan. England, Australia, New Zealand and West Indies have all visited Pakistan which shows that there is no issue now"

“There is no security issue, which was their [India] stance previously. But then Pakistan also had security issues but we still went and played in India during the World Cup [in 2016]."

“We are not requesting because it’s our right that India should come and play in Pakistan. Indian team also got a lot of love from Pakistani crowd when they played last time here in Lahore. Disputes between nations will continue but cricket must go on.”

“We will cross that bridge when we come to it. We will consult the government, if they say it’s okay then it’s okay. If they say no, it’s no,"
 
Followers are funny. They not only defend their political masters till their last breath but also their incompetent kids, no matter what!

It seems that there is a lack of clear reasoning behind India's decision to play Pakistan in International Cricket Council (ICC) events, but not in bilateral matches. On one hand, India has claimed that they will not play Pakistan in bilateral matches because it benefits Pakistan financially. However, they have also stated that they are willing to play Pakistan in ICC events, because they are forced to do so and risk losing points and this negatively affects India. This inconsistency becomes even more confusing when we consider that India has significant influence in the Asian Cricket Council (ACC), yet Pakistan and India are still drawn to play each other in the group stages.

To add to the confusion, Indian posters claim that the ICC and ACC are completely different organizations and is not an ICC event which is fair enough. However, it is strange that India and Pakistan are drawn together in ACC events and that some posters claim their decision to play Pakistan in ACC events is an act of benevolence. This directly contradicts their earlier reasoning that they avoid playing Pakistan in bilateral matches because of the financial benefits it brings to Pakistan.

Overall, the logic behind India's decision to play Pakistan in certain cricket events but not others is quite loose and difficult to understand. As a Pakistani, it would be helpful to have a definitive answer to this issue.
 
It seems that there is a lack of clear reasoning behind India's decision to play Pakistan in International Cricket Council (ICC) events, but not in bilateral matches. On one hand, India has claimed that they will not play Pakistan in bilateral matches because it benefits Pakistan financially. However, they have also stated that they are willing to play Pakistan in ICC events, because they are forced to do so and risk losing points and this negatively affects India. This inconsistency becomes even more confusing when we consider that India has significant influence in the Asian Cricket Council (ACC), yet Pakistan and India are still drawn to play each other in the group stages.

To add to the confusion, Indian posters claim that the ICC and ACC are completely different organizations and is not an ICC event which is fair enough. However, it is strange that India and Pakistan are drawn together in ACC events and that some posters claim their decision to play Pakistan in ACC events is an act of benevolence. This directly contradicts their earlier reasoning that they avoid playing Pakistan in bilateral matches because of the financial benefits it brings to Pakistan.

Overall, the logic behind India's decision to play Pakistan in certain cricket events but not others is quite loose and difficult to understand. As a Pakistani, it would be helpful to have a definitive answer to this issue.
Only thing I want to add here as an Indian fan is that its hypocrisy of highest order on part of BCCI (read regime) to play Pakistan in ICC championships but not in bilateral series and I'll be honest with you, its really frustrating.

As for this ACC saga, even a layman and his dog can see that Jay Shah is acting as BCCI henchman rather than ACC chief.
 
It seems that there is a lack of clear reasoning behind India's decision to play Pakistan in International Cricket Council (ICC) events, but not in bilateral matches. On one hand, India has claimed that they will not play Pakistan in bilateral matches because it benefits Pakistan financially. However, they have also stated that they are willing to play Pakistan in ICC events, because they are forced to do so and risk losing points and this negatively affects India. This inconsistency becomes even more confusing when we consider that India has significant influence in the Asian Cricket Council (ACC), yet Pakistan and India are still drawn to play each other in the group stages.

To add to the confusion, Indian posters claim that the ICC and ACC are completely different organizations and is not an ICC event which is fair enough. However, it is strange that India and Pakistan are drawn together in ACC events and that some posters claim their decision to play Pakistan in ACC events is an act of benevolence. This directly contradicts their earlier reasoning that they avoid playing Pakistan in bilateral matches because of the financial benefits it brings to Pakistan.

Overall, the logic behind India's decision to play Pakistan in certain cricket events but not others is quite loose and difficult to understand. As a Pakistani, it would be helpful to have a definitive answer to this issue.

India's reasoning is clear, we do what benefits us.

Why will affect other nations in our issues with Pakistan? What Pakistan gets out of ICC in its entire cycle is fraction of what it will make if it hosts India regularly. So PCB is significantly affected financially by not hosting India.

So BCCI can affect PCB without affecting other boards.
 
Unfortunately opposition is so incompetent in India, not a single person can articulate the double standards in elevating Jay Shah to his current role even if when does not have any administrative experience not sporting experience. If Congress is right accused of dynastic politics suppressing merit, then how is this any different.
 
India's reasoning is clear, we do what benefits us.

Why will affect other nations in our issues with Pakistan? What Pakistan gets out of ICC in its entire cycle is fraction of what it will make if it hosts India regularly. So PCB is significantly affected financially by not hosting India.

So BCCI can affect PCB without affecting other boards.
So basically you are saying BCCI rigs the asia cup draw as charity to Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan?
 
Unfortunately opposition is so incompetent in India, not a single person can articulate the double standards in elevating Jay Shah to his current role even if when does not have any administrative experience not sporting experience. If Congress is right accused of dynastic politics suppressing merit, then how is this any different.

Jay Shah ran the GCA for 6 years..He was one of the key men supervising the construction of the Ahmedabad stadium.
 
Media Advisory

January 6th, 2023

Asian Cricket Council responds to PCB Chairman’s social media comments

The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) on Thursday announced the ACC Calendar 2023-24 and the pathway structure.

It has come to our knowledge that PCB Chairman Mr. Najam Sethi has made a comment on the ACC President unilaterally taking the decision on finalising the calendar and announcing the same. The ACC wants to clarify that it has followed established due process. The calendar was approved by its Development Committee and Finance & Marketing Committee in a meeting held on December 13th, 2022.

The calendar was then communicated to all the participating members individually, including Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), via an email dated December 22nd, 2022. While responses were received from certain Member Boards, no comments or suggested modifications were received from PCB.

In view of the above, Mr. Sethi’s comments on a social media platform are baseless and are vehemently denied by the ACC.

Asia Cricket Council

https://asiancricket.org/asian-cricket-council-responds-to-pcb-chairmans-social-media-comments/

PCB replies

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/ACCMedia1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ACCMedia1</a> for confirming these were unilateral decisions announced by ACC President as DevCom & MarCom recommendations need to be approved by ACC Board, which, as far as we know, has neither met since 13 Dec 2022 nor granted approvals through circular resolution <a href="https://t.co/XwTvQnVWZD">https://t.co/XwTvQnVWZD</a></p>— PCB Media (@TheRealPCBMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCBMedia/status/1611386113486360576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
This is poor from ACC if decision has been taken unilaterally and PCB was not consulted. Prior to announcing the schedule, every member board must be taken into confidence. I can understand the frustration from PCB/Najam Shetty. This is what happena when incompetent people like Jay Shah runs the show.
 
And I hope you know why he got that responsibility in first place.

The same reason Shashank Manohar got Vidarbha, Pawar got Mumbai, Rupa Gurunath got Tamilnadu, Ranjib Biswal got Odisha, Avisek Dalmia and Snehashish Ganguly got Bengal, Jyotiraditya Scindia got Madhya Pradesh.

The same reason why Jagmohan Dalmiya got his chance to be in the CAB.

What's your point?
 
There used to be a time when Pakistan-India group games used to be based on lottery or something.

In modern times, they seem to put them in the same group on purpose. They try to milk as much cash as possible.
 
Last edited:
Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi intends to have a chat with Jay Shah regarding his country's Asia Cup hosting rights if the BCCI secretary decides to attend the opening ceremony of the International League T20 on Thursday.

"Najam will be using this opportunity to work on relations with the ACC members and ensure that the Asia Cup is held as scheduled in Pakistan in September this year.

Basically, Najam is also going as he has been conveyed that there is strong possibility of BCCI boss Jay Shah also being in attendance," a PCB source told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

However, there is no confirmation on part of BCCI whether its top boss or any of the other office-bearers will attend the opening ceremony.

Also, the other big question remains, even if Shah attends the event in his capacity as ACC president and BCCI secretary, would he like to entertain the PCB chairman for an informal chat on the sidelines? Shah, in his capacity as ACC chairman, had stated last year that Asia Cup will be shifted out of Pakistan and the erstwhile PCB chief Ramiz Raja had then issued a counter-threat that his country will pull out of World Cup in India.

Recently, Sethi made a sarcastic dig at Shah after the ACC chairman had released the two-year itinerary, which the PCB chief alleged was not discussed with his board.

The ACC had strongly come out in its president's defence as they released a press statement that clarified that PCB didn't get back with its preferred recommendation after The Emirates Cricket Board has invited the head of all big cricket boards and Sethi will be in attendance during the opening day where he wants to speak to his other ACC colleagues in order to garner support for Pakistan retaining its hosting rights for the ODI Asia Cup in September.

"Sethi believes that there is a need for the PCB to have better relations with the ACC members whose support is necessary if the Asia Cup is to be held in Pakistan.

"Having been a former ACC chairman, Najam will be giving out assurances to all members that Pakistan is completely safe and secure to host the regional event and all teams including India must send their teams," he said.

The PCB source said there was a feeling in the board that former chairman Ramiz had gone overboard with his threats to the ACC and BCCI and the PCB needed to first ensure it is able to host the Asia Cup and the 2025 Champions Trophy.

"If Shah does come to Dubai, it will also allow Sethi to meet him in person or other BCCI officials on the sidelines and discuss the issue of India sending its team to Pakistan for the Asia Cup."

The source said Sethi would also drop in at the ICC headquarters and meet top officials to discuss the hosting of the 2025 Champions Trophy in Pakistan as well as the World Cup being held in India this year.

Sethi's decision to accept the ECB invitation is significant as the PCB had a bitter fall out with the former during Ramiz's tenure after the former chairman had publicly discouraged Pakistani players from participating in the league.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...ah-attends-ilt20-opener-in-dubai-2536812.html
 
The chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Najam Sethi, met with ACC representatives in the United Arab Emirates and plans to speak with Jay Shah, the ACC's president and the BCCI's secretary, about the Asia Cup 2023. The information from the sources indicated that Sethi is entirely focused on preventing Pakistan from not hosting the 2023 edition of the competition. The event will take place at a neutral site, according to Jay Shah's statement from the previous year.

"Najam Sethi came here for the opening ceremony of the International League T20 (ILT20, a T20 league by Emirates Cricket Board). He met with ACC officials and expressed his wish to meet ACC president Jay Shah in February for a discussion over Asia Cup 2023," a source told ANI.

https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-pakistans-hosting-asia-cup-2023-2562375.html
 
The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) has accepted Pakistan Cricket Board’s request to hold an executive board meeting on February 4 in Bahrain to discuss this year’s Asia Cup and India’s participation in the tournament in neighbouring country. PCB chairman Najam Sethi told media in Lahore on Monday that during his recent visit to Dubai, he had succeeded in convincing the ACC members to hold the board meeting. “It is a major development that the ACC the board will meet on 4th February in Bahrain and matters relating to the Asia Cup will be discussed,” he said.

The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) has accepted Pakistan Cricket Board’s request to hold an executive board meeting on February 4 in Bahrain to discuss this year’s Asia Cup and India’s participation in the tournament in neighbouring country. PCB chairman Najam Sethi told media in Lahore on Monday that during his recent visit to Dubai, he had succeeded in convincing the ACC members to hold the board meeting. “It is a major development that the ACC the board will meet on 4th February in Bahrain and matters relating to the Asia Cup will be discussed,” he said.

“There will also be a ICC meeting in March and I don’t want to go public with what negotiations I had with ACC members in Dubai or what I plan to do, argue or discuss at the coming meetings. But yes definitely India and Pakistan cricket relations are important.” The PCB was upset last year when the ACC president Jay Shah said that the Indian team would not travel to Pakistan for the Asia Cup and the event would be relocated elsewhere, like it had happened in 2018.

The PCB, led at that time by Ramiz Raja, had shot back by threatening that if India didn’t come to Pakistan then it would also not sent its team for the ODI World Cup be held in India later this year.

Ramiz later also threatened that Pakistan could also consider withdrawing from the Asia Cup.

Sethi agreed that cricket matters between India and Pakistan need some clarity so that ACC and the ICC events are not affected. “Hosting the Asia Cup this year is very important and India sending its team is a big issue because it will obviously have repercussions on the Champions Trophy being held in Pakistan in 2025,” he said.

https://www.india.com/sports/asian-...t-month-pakistan-cricket-board-chief-5866337/
 
Wasim Akram:

"It all depends on the governments of both the nations. If they permit then vo bhi idhar aayenge aur hum bhi udhar jayenge. Uske liye bade tarike se baat krni padti hai, ye koi mohalle ki cricket nahi hai ki vo nahi aayenge to hum nahi jayenge. Ye pata nahi kaunse bacche bacche aa k cricket chala rahe hai Pakistan m (If the government permits, then India will come to Pakistan, and we’ll also go there. For all that to happen, you have to talk nicely. It’s not street cricket; you can’t say that if they won't come, we will also not go. Don’t know what kind of kids are running Pakistan cricket these days)"
 
Back
Top