India sends back 50 Pakistani students after threats by extremists

[pakistan cricket fan]

LAHORE: Fifty Pakistani students, along with their teachers, on an exchange programme to India were sent back to Lahore on Tuesday after they received threats from extremist organisations.

According to Indian media reports, the students who reached India on May 1, were sent back home within a day, after threats were made to the host NGO for inviting the students.

Reportedly, the NGO has been advised by Indian government officials that the time is unfavourable for the exchange programme.

The students were threatened by Hindu nationalist Shiv Sena, after ties between the two countries deteriorated.

The students were a part of the cultural exchange programme and on a five-day visit to India. The students after the intimidation from extremists were terrified and remained inside their rooms.

They reached Wagah border safely today.

A student spoke to Geo News, narrating the ordeal the students went through.

“We were having dinner when commotion was raised and our in-charge said announced that we were to head to Pakistan tomorrow, everyone was surprised because we were scheduled to go to Agra to see the Taj Mahal tomorrow… We truly panicked after the announcement,” she said.

Tensions between two countries flared again on Tuesday when India accused Pakistan of killing and mutilating the bodies of two Indian soldiers across the Line of Control.

Pakistan Army had categorically rejected Indian Army’s accusations of killing two members of an Indian army patrol near LoC.

“Pakistan Army did not commit any ceasefire violation on the line of control or a BAT action in the Buttal sector (Indian Krishna Ghatti Sector) as alleged by India. Indian blame of mutilating Indian soldiers' bodies are also false”, an Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) statement had said.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/140390-India-sends-back-50-Pakistani-students-after-threats-by-extremists

 

[Rafa]

A Nation controlled by extremists where a few foreign students are unsafe.

 

[bleaf27]

A Nation controlled by extremists where a few foreign students are unsafe.

You don't have much sense in you. With tensions on the rise and recent killings of the Indian soldiers by the Pak army - it is in the better interest of the children for their safety to return. The concern is their own safety which shouldn't be jeapordized

 

[Hornbill]

"The ministry advised the NGO that it was not an appropriate time for such exchanges after we learnt that the children had crossed over to India on May 1,” foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1330832/pakistani-students-forced-to-shorten-india-visit

No reports about threat issued by any extremist group.

 

[Major]

You don't have much sense in you. With tensions on the rise and recent killings of the Indian soldiers by the Pak army - it is in the better interest of the children for their safety to return. The concern is their own safety which shouldn't be jeapordized

so you are saying that India cant even provide security to the people live in the country?

Thats how messed up the country is?

 

[Major]

Its terrible to destroy a students future like this, and shameful by those idiots who defend this

 

[JaDed]

Its terrible to destroy a students future like this, and shameful by those idiots who defend this

5 day visit,not a semester or anything but yes terrible but isn't it better be safe than sorry in a way admitting the standalone extremist situation as well sadly media or opposition won't question it.

 

[IAJ]

The biggest problem and difference here is that In India they look at every pakistani as extremist whereas the opposite isn't the case in Pak.
If some Indians students had come to Pakistan I doubt they would have been threatned, people would say they are innocent and just moved on. Only threats could have come from indians pretending to be pakistanis.

 

[Zak_Fan]

A Nation controlled by extremists where a few foreign students are unsafe.

It isn't Pakistanis who suffer from Shiv Sena wrath, but Indians who have to face massive protests and at times vandalism.

 

[Zak_Fan]

It is sad that people don't even want a bunch of Pakistani kids in India, don't want Cricket with Pakistan.. but at the same time, Indian government has granted Pakistan "The most favored nation" title.

About time we show some consistency on the matter or we are the ones who will end up looking like fools.

 

[CricketCartoons]

It is sad that people don't even want a bunch of Pakistani kids in India, don't want Cricket with Pakistan.. but at the same time, Indian government has granted Pakistan "The most favored nation" title.

About time we show some consistency on the matter or we are the ones who will end up looking like fools.

What does Most favored Nation mean? What are the special benefits extended compared to other nations?

 

[Zak_Fan]

What does Most favored Nation mean? What are the special benefits extended compared to other nations?

Dunno, probably some trade benefits. [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] tends to know this stuff, he could explain.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Dunno, probably some trade benefits. [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] tends to know this stuff, he could explain.

So you used this term in your argument without knowing what it means. OK.

 

[Zak_Fan]

So you used this term in your argument without knowing what it means. OK.

Yes, my argument needed it to be taken in a literal sense.

 

[troodon]

Good decision.

Better to be safe than sorry. All it takes is one idiot to vent his anger on the innocent students.

Tensions seem to be at its absolute worst between both countries. From Kashmir issue to the recent mutilation incident.. Its a safe decision.

 

[bleaf27]

so you are saying that India cant even provide security to the people live in the country?

Thats how messed up the country is?

I wish you did some reading prior to preaching your hate agenda.
The students from Pakistan were on a 5 day trip to an NGO - they do not live in India . It was a student exchange program by the NGO to invite the Pakistani children over for this trip.
With the tensions on the rise, and recent killing of two Indian soldiers , It was best to cancel the rest of the trip. This isn't an ego issue but safety of children whether Indian or Pakistani is the primary concern.
Learn to read about a topic before commenting on everything you see with a fixed agenda

 

[czar]

Send for their own good

 

[sshakir411]

You don't have much sense in you. With tensions on the rise and recent killings of the Indian soldiers by the Pak army - it is in the better interest of the children for their safety to return. The concern is their own safety which shouldn't be jeapordized

there's no proof Indian soldiers were killed by Pak army. It's all speculation...would be smart of you to be factual first before you question smartness of others.

 

[bleaf27]

there's no proof Indian soldiers were killed by Pak army. It's all speculation...would be smart of you to be factual first before you question smartness of others.

It isn't speculation. The Indian army has given an official statement including the pre-emptive firing and the area where the soldiers were ambushed. You do not want to agree to it ? That's fine. but do not call something a speculation just because you may not agree to it. Indian Army isn't speculating .

 

[sshakir411]

It isn't speculation. The Indian army has given an official statement including the pre-emptive firing and the area where the soldiers were ambushed. You do not want to agree to it ? That's fine. but do not call something a speculation just because you may not agree to it. Indian Army isn't speculating .

lol, so where's the proof it was done by Pakistan Army like you claimed? Indian Army official statement is hardly evidence...if official statements are considered proof then please lets also consider statements by Pakistanis as solid and sufficient evidence.

 

[bleaf27]

lol, so where's the proof it was done by Pakistan Army like you claimed? Indian Army official statement is hardly evidence...if official statements are considered proof then please lets also consider statements by Pakistanis as solid and sufficient evidence.

The Indian army wouldn't give me the information so I had presented the same pieces that have been shared by them and you might have come across yourself. I'll just highlight the key points
1) Covering fire provided by the Pak Army.
2) Blood trail across LOC

Now you may not consider them as evidence which is fine. But Abdul Basit has been given the information so let's leave it at that . With history of attacks between the nations and Indian covert ops and rise in tensions - there is quite sufficient basis to it. There is no other army involved except Indian and Pak army which makes it quite far from a mere speculation

 

[sshakir411]

The Indian army wouldn't give me the information so I had presented the same pieces that have been shared by them and you might have come across yourself. I'll just highlight the key points
1) Covering fire provided by the Pak Army.
2) Blood trail across LOC

Now you may not consider them as evidence which is fine. But Abdul Basit has been given the information so let's leave it at that . With history of attacks between the nations and Indian covert ops and rise in tensions - there is quite sufficient basis to it. There is no other army involved except Indian and Pak army which makes it quite far from a mere speculation

As expected, this is far from evidence.

 

[bleaf27]

As expected, this is far from evidence.

But that's your opinion. What was given to Abdul Basit, we both aren't aware but considering this is a shared border only between these two nations - it is not a mere speculation - that's my opinion

 

[sshakir411]

But that's your opinion. What was given to Abdul Basit, we both aren't aware but considering this is a shared border only between these two nations - it is not a mere speculation - that's my opinion

do you know how ridiculous you sound? Firing and blood along the LOC might be evidence in Indian courts but no where else. Please, you're stating your opinion and getting hurt when others are doing the same.

 

[bleaf27]

do you know how ridiculous you sound? Firing and blood along the LOC might be evidence in Indian courts but no where else. Please, you're stating your opinion and getting hurt when others are doing the same.

I am certainly not hurt but using words like "speculation" are quite invalid or your failure to understand its meaning. I am weighing in my opinion just like yours however I refrain from using unnecessary words around.
Secondly, that's not ridiculous at all. So I am guessing a blatant trail of blood observed is not an evidence ? So in any investigation in any country, regardless of a homicide/suicide/kidnapping/terrorist activity - a trail of blood is not considered a piece of evidence ?

 

[sshakir411]

I am certainly not hurt but using words like "speculation" are quite invalid or your failure to understand its meaning. I am weighing in my opinion just like yours however I refrain from using unnecessary words around.
Secondly, that's not ridiculous at all. So I am guessing a blatant trail of blood observed is not an evidence ? So in any investigation in any country, regardless of a homicide/suicide/kidnapping/terrorist activity - a trail of blood is not considered a piece of evidence ?

it is speculation from your side...as you have admitted you have no clue what was included in the evidence yet you stated beyond doubt that Pakistan Army killed Indian soldiers. Then you follow it up with a trail of blood and firing as your reasons to pin this on Pakistan. You must be seriously manipulated by the stuff you see on tv...the trail of blood would only have significance if the bodies were found right next to it..otherwise i can shoot a gun in the air and leave some red liquid on the street...you can consider what you want...it's hardly proof of anything.

 

[bleaf27]

it is speculation from your side...as you have admitted you have no clue what was included in the evidence yet you stated beyond doubt that Pakistan Army killed Indian soldiers. Then you follow it up with a trail of blood and firing as your reasons to pin this on Pakistan. You must be seriously manipulated by the stuff you see on tv...the trail of blood would only have significance if the bodies were found right next to it..otherwise i can shoot a gun in the air and leave some red liquid on the street...you can consider what you want...it's hardly proof of anything.

Doubt does not equal speculation, firstly.
Secondly, Indian Army stand is quite clear that they have evidence which they have provided. If Pakistani army denies it they can say there is no evidence. But do not claim that Indian Army/Govt is speculating because they aren't.
So do you have evidence there was no blood trail ? Or the bodies were not next to it?

 

[big_gamer007]

Why give visas in the first place? BJP is in alliance with shiv sena, BJP is ruling in centre, the embassy grants them visa on behest of government and then an ally of government issues threats to the children?

Why don't they take it up with their alliance partner and ask them not to give visa to any Pakistani?? You know why? Because it won't make newspaper headlines..

Sub continent politics is vile and courageless..

 

[English August]

Who approves such silly trips when the relationship between the two countries is in such state?

 

[PakLFC]

Good things all around. These RSS nutcases could openly attack innocent students to avenge the supposed killing of their soldiers.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Which idiot sanctioned the visas in the first place?

 

[OutKast]

Better to be safe than sorry. These extremist loonies might stoop to any level, even attacking students.

 

[enkidu_]

They shouldn't even have been on the perfumed holy soil of Bharat to begin with.

 

[czar]

I won't mind if all diplomatic relations with Pakistan are suspended for as long as things remain heated between the two countries.

 

[MenInG]

I won't mind if all diplomatic relations with Pakistan are suspended for as long as things remain heated between the two countries.

And how do you expect things to cool down without diplomacy?