India should ban Pakistanis from all industries until relations improve: Gautam Gambhir

[Hitman]

In the wake of rising ceasefire violations by Pakistan, veteran Indian batsman Gautam Gambhir opined that conditional boycott would not be enough for improving India-Pakistan relations.

In an interview to ANI, Gambhir noted that rather than just focusing on ending cricketing ties between the two nations, India should ban Pakistanis from all industries, including music and film industries.

"Merely boycotting cricketing ties with Pakistan will not help. If a ban is imposed, it should be in all sectors, be it films, music or any other. Nobody from Pakistan should be provided an opportunity to perform in India unless the relations between the two neighbours improve," he said.

Furthermore, the cricketer stressed on the need for the Indian government to take more stringent measures against Pakistan on account of the rising ceasefire violations along the border.

"In the recent past, we have initiated talks with Pakistan on many occasions, but no substantial outcome has been achieved. Every country has its own level of patience and importance. First thing, of course, is to talk; but if that doesn't work, one has to take strict action. There is no point in politicising the matter," said Gambhir.

This isn't the first time the ace batsman is voicing his view on the matter.

In October 2016, Gambhir had said that India should not have any ties with Pakistan until cross-border terrorism stops, adding that there is a need to back soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the nation.

On a related note, the Indian opener in April last year had pledged to bear the educational expenses of the children of the 25 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel who were killed in an attack by Maoists in Chhattisgarh's Sukma last year. He had also donated the prize money he achieved on being named 'Man of the Match' at an Indian Premier League 2017 (IPL) match to the kin of the slain security personnel.

In this regard, Gambhir urged that it was the responsibility of each citizen to contribute their share to the families of those who sacrifice their lives for the country.

Link: http://www.republicworld.com/sports...s-from-all-industries-until-relations-improve

 

[CricketCartoons]

Patriotism is the last refuge of the righteous and the upright. More power to such people.

 

[big_gamer007]

Gambhir Has always been consistent in his views and if you come to think about it his views are 100% correct..

 

[MenInG]

Gambhir Has always been consistent in his views and if you come to think about it his views are 100% correct..

Even fools can have consistent views. Mental asylums are full of such people.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Gambhir Has always been consistent in his views and if you come to think about it his views are 100% correct..

relations will only go worse if whatever remaining interaction is stopped. so his views are not correct, although he is entitled to them. If he is really sincere in what he wants then he should bark against his government, instead of trying to be relevant by riding the patriotic gravy train.

 

[jaywcric]

Why? Is there anything wrong with his views? Its not as offensive as saying parosis have smaller hearts.

 

[JaDed]

Which won't happen,because such businesses probably benefit traders aka BJP support! Doesn't make sense not to have cricket match but trade happening via borders silently.

 

[MenInG]

Why? Is there anything wrong with his views? Its not as offensive as saying parosis have smaller hearts.

Problem with his (and people like him) is that they will never let relations normalize between Pak and India.

 

[jaywcric]

Does People like 'him' include Shahid Afridi?
Because it was Shahid Afridi who gave this statement about Indians.

 

[MenInG]

Does People like 'him' include Shahid Afridi?
Because it was Shahid Afridi who gave this statement about Indians.

possibly but Afridi has also made many statements about importance of getting along. Can you find one from GG?

 

[Varun]

Believe it or not, a few hotheads on either side of the border can actually help India - Pakistan relations improve through reverse psychology if you think about it.

Gambhir is our candidate. Who's yours?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Which won't happen,because such businesses probably benefit traders aka BJP support! Doesn't make sense not to have cricket match but trade happening via borders silently.

if traders can make bjp to carry on trade with pakistan, the cricket fans should learn from them and force bjp to resume cricket. Unless you think cricket fans dont want any cricket and bjp is given them what they want.

 

[jaywcric]

possibly but Afridi has also made many statements about importance of getting along. Can you find one from GG?

Maybe that's because cricketing relations between two countries is more beneficial to a single country. Now that he is 38 and there are no benefits, we won't be seeing such statements from him.
Besides, its great that there are no bilateral series anymore. Builds hype and make ICC fixtures more exciting.

 

[gani999]

How many Pakistanis still work in Bollywood or other Indian industries? I doubt there are any left.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Gambhir really needs to shut up. The guy isn't good enough for cricket as seen when he resigned from captaincy and is going to play "for free". Trying to be smart and intellectual with these political statements but keeps spouting nonsense. People like him are the reason that the fickle public buys into this "Pakistanis shouldn't be allowed in India" nonsense. This man isn't good for cricket nor is he good for politics.

 

[shortbread]

Gambhir really needs to shut up. The guy isn't good enough for cricket as seen when he resigned from captaincy and is going to play "for free". Trying to be smart and intellectual with these political statements but keeps spouting nonsense. People like him are the reason that the fickle public buys into this "Pakistanis shouldn't be allowed in India" nonsense. This man isn't good for cricket nor is he good for politics.

All people like him wants to achieve with such statements is to seem relevant when they are really not. He's finished as a cricketer so making random comments against people who has nothing to do with him, keeps this gut in the spotlight. Spewing hatred is very easy!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Which won't happen,because such businesses probably benefit traders aka BJP support! Doesn't make sense not to have cricket match but trade happening via borders silently.

Trade is decreasing and its a very small part of overall trade. Stopping it will mean WTO issues.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Gambhir really needs to shut up. The guy isn't good enough for cricket as seen when he resigned from captaincy and is going to play "for free". Trying to be smart and intellectual with these political statements but keeps spouting nonsense. People like him are the reason that the fickle public buys into this "Pakistanis shouldn't be allowed in India" nonsense. This man isn't good for cricket nor is he good for politics.

Why should he shut up? His country he can give his views. You are free to disagree.

If Afridi can give his views, If Hasan Ali can do his antics why should Gambhir shut up?

Atleast he puts his money where his nationalistic mouth is and sponsors the education of the children of martyrs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

All people like him wants to achieve with such statements is to seem relevant when they are really not. He's finished as a cricketer so making random comments against people who has nothing to do with him, keeps this gut in the spotlight. Spewing hatred is very easy!

You decided his relevance in India? How?

 

[cricketjoshila]

How many Pakistanis still work in Bollywood or other Indian industries? I doubt there are any left.

There no big actors but singers still work i think.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Why should he shut up? His country he can give his views. You are free to disagree.

If Afridi can give his views, If Hasan Ali can do his antics why should Gambhir shut up?

Atleast he puts his money where his nationalistic mouth is and sponsors the education of the children of martyrs.

Difference is Hasan Ali and Afridi aren't spreading anti-India sentiment and feeding into the negativity and hatred between the 2 countries. Just because it's his country doesn't mean he needs to feed these thoughts into the minds of the public. People like him sadly have influence in India and he has a responsibility towards his nation and the public. What he is effectively saying is if a person is from Pakistan, then he/she has no place in India because of the political situation between the countries. I fail to see why individuals have to suffer because of the actions of their government. Just because my government isn't on good terms with a certain nation doesn't mean I should be blacklisted from a whole nation. Normal people in Pakistan don't represent their government, nor are they liable for the decisions of the politicians. Why should they be involved in such nonsense?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Difference is Hasan Ali and Afridi aren't spreading anti-India sentiment and feeding into the negativity and hatred between the 2 countries. Just because it's his country doesn't mean he needs to feed these thoughts into the minds of the public. People like him sadly have influence in India and he has a responsibility towards his nation and the public. What he is effectively saying is if a person is from Pakistan, then he/she has no place in India because of the political situation between the countries. I fail to see why individuals have to suffer because of the actions of their government. Just because my government isn't on good terms with a certain nation doesn't mean I should be blacklisted from a whole nation. Normal people in Pakistan don't represent their government, nor are they liable for the decisions of the politicians. Why should they be involved in such nonsense?

Afridi was not fanning anti india sentiments by talking about chotay dil and supporting secessionism in India?

And Hasan Ali was spreading love by making provocative gestures towards Indian armed forces in the midst of a military parade?

Its his views about how he wants his country to engage with Pakistan. You may not like it. You may disagree but thats how he feels.

And i am in doubt that many feel the same way after statements of Afridi or Sohail Tanvir etc who made money in India and then had a lot of not so good things to say about it. While they are free to say whatever they want in Pakistan, there is no reason to allow them to make money from India.

A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose. Would i be wrong to say that majority of pakistanis support the kashmiri separatists in J and K? Would i be wrong to say that the terrorists in J and K are referred to as freedom fighters? God knows how many Indians have died defending their land againist these terrorists. How many more will die? You think Indians take kindly to the Pakistani support for Kashmiri secessionism?

 

[King-Misbah]

Afridi was not fanning anti india sentiments by talking about chotay dil and supporting secessionism in India?

And Hasan Ali was spreading love by making provocative gestures towards Indian armed forces in the midst of a military parade?

Its his views about how he wants his country to engage with Pakistan. You may not like it. You may disagree but thats how he feels.

And i am in doubt that many feel the same way after statements of Afridi or Sohail Tanvir etc who made money in India and then had a lot of not so good things to say about it. While they are free to say whatever they want in Pakistan, there is no reason to allow them to make money from India.

A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose. Would i be wrong to say that majority of pakistanis support the kashmiri separatists in J and K? Would i be wrong to say that the terrorists in J and K are referred to as freedom fighters? God knows how many Indians have died defending their land againist these terrorists. How many more will die? You think Indians take kindly to the Pakistani support for Kashmiri secessionism?

Get your Indian shades off. Indian army are the ones that are occupying Kashmiris and killing them. How many more will your govt and army kill? Love how Indians act all naive and innoncent.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Get your Indian shades off. Indian army are the ones that are occupying Kashmiris and killing them. How many more will your govt and army kill? Love how Indians act all naive and innoncent.

Then why do you want Pakistanis to come to India?

This the reason GG said what he said.

 

[King-Misbah]

Then why do you want Pakistanis to come to India?

This the reason GG said what he said.

I don't want Pakistanis in India. There is a lot of opportunity to excel in Pakistan and in other countries.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Afridi was not fanning anti india sentiments by talking about chotay dil and supporting secessionism in India?

And Hasan Ali was spreading love by making provocative gestures towards Indian armed forces in the midst of a military parade?

Its his views about how he wants his country to engage with Pakistan. You may not like it. You may disagree but thats how he feels.

And i am in doubt that many feel the same way after statements of Afridi or Sohail Tanvir etc who made money in India and then had a lot of not so good things to say about it. While they are free to say whatever they want in Pakistan, there is no reason to allow them to make money from India.

A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose. Would i be wrong to say that majority of pakistanis support the kashmiri separatists in J and K? Would i be wrong to say that the terrorists in J and K are referred to as freedom fighters? God knows how many Indians have died defending their land againist these terrorists. How many more will die? You think Indians take kindly to the Pakistani support for Kashmiri secessionism?

For every "chotay-dil" comment that Afridi has made, he has also said things like "Got more love in India than Pakistan". This shows that the guy doesn't hold a strong anti-India sentiment like Gambhir does. He can be indecisive, but that's definitely not the same as using hate-speech to stay in the limelight.

What Hasan did was blown way out of proportion. It was the classic celebration he does after picking up a wicket. Only reason he did it was to please the crowd. Absolutely harmless and the Indian media has nit-picked that whole instance and added it's own twist to it.

Just because players played in the IPL doesn't mean they can't say negative things about India. They were signed up by teams on cricketing merit, not based on their political ideologies and stance on the Pak-India matter. That's how it should be.

You say "A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose", but I can make an equally compelling case of governments infuencing the public to begin with rather than the government doing something the people won't oppose. How am I to blame for what my government is doing? As far as I know, I'm not being consulted in any political matters, nor do i have any say in what will happen in the future. All normal people do is go about their lives. Not everyone supports the actions and decisions of their government.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

"In the recent past, we have initiated talks with Pakistan on many occasions, but no substantial outcome has been achieved. Every country has its own level of patience and importance. First thing, of course, is to talk; but if that doesn't work, one has to take strict action. There is no point in politicising the matter," said Gambhir.

Really? When did this happen? My impression has always been that it is Pakistan which has more to gain from good relations, Indians have always stressed that they are doing very well anyway so it suits them to make things difficult for Pakistan. Just take IPL as one example.

 

[kaayal]

For every "chotay-dil" comment that Afridi has made, he has also said things like "Got more love in India than Pakistan". This shows that the guy doesn't hold a strong anti-India sentiment like Gambhir does. He can be indecisive, but that's definitely not the same as using hate-speech to stay in the limelight.

What Hasan did was blown way out of proportion. It was the classic celebration he does after picking up a wicket. Only reason he did it was to please the crowd. Absolutely harmless and the Indian media has nit-picked that whole instance and added it's own twist to it.

Just because players played in the IPL doesn't mean they can't say negative things about India. They were signed up by teams on cricketing merit, not based on their political ideologies and stance on the Pak-India matter. That's how it should be.

You say "A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose", but I can make an equally compelling case of governments infuencing the public to begin with rather than the government doing something the people won't oppose. How am I to blame for what my government is doing? As far as I know, I'm not being consulted in any political matters, nor do i have any say in what will happen in the future. All normal people do is go about their lives. Not everyone supports the actions and decisions of their government.

What Hassan did was really really distasteful. See many here don't know who he is and what's his celebration is like but these stupid antics like mimicing an explotion etc reflects badly on Pakistan and it's cricket team. For making the crowd happy, you can't just cross the line of decency.

On topic, Gambhir should tone down his nationalism and concentrate on his cricket. DD is on the bottom of the point table. He should work on where he can actually make some change, not this dirty politics.

 

[Waseem]

Yaar can someone please send this midget to border as volunteer, frustrated little loser!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What Hassan did was really really distasteful. See many here don't know who he is and what's his celebration is like but these stupid antics like mimicing an explotion etc reflects badly on Pakistan and it's cricket team. For making the crowd happy, you can't just cross the line of decency.

On topic, Gambhir should tone down his nationalism and concentrate on his cricket. DD is on the bottom of the point table. He should work on where he can actually make some change, not this dirty politics.

If they don't know who he is, why make such a big deal out of it? It was because he is well known that Indians kicked up such a fuss in my opinion. You can't tell me that Indians don't know about world cricket, Hasan Ali has been a key performer on the international stage for the past year.

 

[90MPH]

Firstly he talks like there are tons of Pakistanis in India.

Who is he trying to fool ?? There has been virtually no Cricket relations between the 2 countries in the last decade.

Secondly in case he didn’t know even movie stars were banned from his Bollywood industry because of the ridiculous Indian media machine was baying for their blood - only in India.

Now if he wants to ban medical patients any other small businessmen as well then he can lobby his right wing fanatical government to do so, if that sooths his ultra nationalism.

Nothing is going to improve with this Modi government and it’s fanatical supporting media base. If Gambhir wants to break even last minimum remaining relations I couldn’t care less.

 

[jaywcric]

If they don't know who he is, why make such a big deal out of it? It was because he is well known that Indians kicked up such a fuss in my opinion. You can't tell me that Indians don't know about world cricket, Hasan Ali has been a key performer on the international stage for the past year.

Sadly we really don't know him before this incident. He has played very few matches against India to make an impact on our minds. He is no Shoaib Akhtar, Shoaib Malik or Afridi who are very well known in India. But now we know him very well, a man who had behaved like a monkey on the border to show his antics and taunts Indian army.
Congratulations to Hasan Ali.

 

[kaayal]

If they don't know who he is, why make such a big deal out of it? It was because he is well known that Indians kicked up such a fuss in my opinion. You can't tell me that Indians don't know about world cricket, Hasan Ali has been a key performer on the international stage for the past year.

There is no need to know who he is because the news channel will tell you that this is a Pakistani international cricketer. Being in this forum i know who he is and how talented he is. Not everyone in India knows what happens in Pakistan cricket. Most of the casual fans here are only into India matches and IPL. That's how it is.

 

[Bewal Express]

Ind think that a few PK's missing IPL or not being some awful Bollywood film must hurt PK. Well it doesnt, and if it makes them happy to totally cut trade- wellgo ahead. Ind cant do anything to PK. On the other hand if Kashmiris are given independence from both, both countries can concentrate on tackling the real issue of poverty.

 

[Hermoine Green]

For the first time i can agree with him.

Screw all this.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Trade is decreasing and its a very small part of overall trade. Stopping it will mean WTO issues.

There will be no WTO issues. WTO dictates on rules of how to trade not forcing parties to trade where they don't want to. No one is stopping India from finding markets for its imports and exports to replace Pakistan.

Trade between the countries is approx 4 billion USD, and pakistan has a massive deficit..... which explains why India doesn't want it to stop.

If the midget is going to harp on about stopping stopping cricketing and other ties.....trade should be first!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Firstly he talks like there are tons of Pakistanis in India.

Who is he trying to fool ?? There has been virtually no Cricket relations between the 2 countries in the last decade.

Secondly in case he didn’t know even movie stars were banned from his Bollywood industry because of the ridiculous Indian media machine was baying for their blood - only in India.

Now if he wants to ban medical patients any other small businessmen as well then he can lobby his right wing fanatical government to do so, if that sooths his ultra nationalism.

Nothing is going to improve with this Modi government and it’s fanatical supporting media base. If Gambhir wants to break even last minimum remaining relations I couldn’t care less.

What was your reaction to Hasan Ali's action and Afridi's tweet?

 

[kaayal]

Many millions did know him because he was man of the tournament and he also decimated your team in the ICC world tournament last year - you know the one on June 18th. The one India was supposed to win easily but got smashed up badly.

Now it’s easily knowable many millions (probably hundreds) watched that final in your country and you can keep saying “but but we don’t know who he is” if it helps you sleep better but he was bowler of the tournament by a mile and he backed it up in the final.

You can criticise him if you so wish (there are more lunatic monkeys in the Indian side who don’t know what class is) on other things outside Cricket but saying he’s a nobody you are fooling no one here.

I can assure you most indians switched off their tv when things went out of our hand in the CT final 2017. After that they are seeing Hassan Ali only now.

Tbh i guess people will recognize Fakhar Zaman more than Hassan because of his brutal knock in that final.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I can assure you most indians switched off their tv when things went out of our hand in the CT final 2017. After that they are seeing Hassan Ali only now.

Tbh i guess people will recognize Fakhar Zaman more than Hassan because of his brutal knock in that final.

So what you are telling us is that most Indians watch only India and that too when India is going well. They didn't watch the Sri Lanka, South Africa and semi final match against England.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There will be no WTO issues. WTO dictates on rules of how to trade not forcing parties to trade where they don't want to. No one is stopping India from finding markets for its imports and exports to replace Pakistan.

Trade between the countries is approx 4 billion USD, and pakistan has a massive deficit..... which explains why India doesn't want it to stop.

If the midget is going to harp on about stopping stopping cricketing and other ties.....trade should be first!

You cannot ban one country to trade with you. Unless you can prove they are involved in illict activities.

Total trade was $2bn.

India's total trade is $758bn

Its miniscule.

Any physical description of Afridi after his tweet or Hasan Ali after his antics?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yaar can someone please send this midget to border as volunteer, frustrated little loser!

Did you say this to Afridi's tweet as well?

 

[Pakistanian]

Did you say this to Afridi's tweet as well?

Afridi didn't say anything against Indians, he just spoke about a humanitarian issue.

 

[Loralai]

Unhelpful rhetoric from a known attention seeker.

 

[cricketjoshila]

For every "chotay-dil" comment that Afridi has made, he has also said things like "Got more love in India than Pakistan". This shows that the guy doesn't hold a strong anti-India sentiment like Gambhir does. He can be indecisive, but that's definitely not the same as using hate-speech to stay in the limelight.

What Hasan did was blown way out of proportion. It was the classic celebration he does after picking up a wicket. Only reason he did it was to please the crowd. Absolutely harmless and the Indian media has nit-picked that whole instance and added it's own twist to it.

Just because players played in the IPL doesn't mean they can't say negative things about India. They were signed up by teams on cricketing merit, not based on their political ideologies and stance on the Pak-India matter. That's how it should be.

You say "A govt will not do something that majority of its people will oppose", but I can make an equally compelling case of governments infuencing the public to begin with rather than the government doing something the people won't oppose. How am I to blame for what my government is doing? As far as I know, I'm not being consulted in any political matters, nor do i have any say in what will happen in the future. All normal people do is go about their lives. Not everyone supports the actions and decisions of their government.

Afridi has just supported secessionist movement in India. He can say whatever he likes after that to cover up, but its pretty obvious.

Hasan Ali did those gestures towars Indian armed force. Pretty obvious he wanted to send a jingoistic message.

GG has his views, if Afridi can have why not GG?

Any Pakistani can have any view about India, thats his freedom. He shouldnot be allowed to make money in India thats what GG says. Pretty sure plenty of Indians will agree to it.

I asked a simple question, In your opinion do majority of Pakistanis support secession of Kashmir from India? Do they consider people like Burhan Wani freedom fighters?

 

[kaayal]

So what you are telling us is that most Indians watch only India and that too when India is going well. They didn't watch the Sri Lanka, South Africa and semi final match against England.

I am talking about the casual fans which majority here are. They are passionate about cricket only when the Indian team is playing. Or if the results of other match will affect our probability of going forward in the competition, then they will watch it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Afridi isn't a midget and he didn't say anything against Indians, he just spoke about a humanitarian issue.

Gambhir is a WC a WT20 and a ICC Test mace winner, that puts him much higher than Afridi ever will.

Afridi called a Indian territory occupied territory. He supported secessionism in India dont know what is more againist India.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Did anyone expect anything else from him?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Sadly we really don't know him before this incident. He has played very few matches against India to make an impact on our minds. He is no Shoaib Akhtar, Shoaib Malik or Afridi who are very well known in India. But now we know him very well, a man who had behaved like a monkey on the border to show his antics and taunts Indian army.
Congratulations to Hasan Ali.

In that case it is quite important that he did these actions, now he will be well known to a bigger Indian audience and they will follow his cricket exploits more keenly hoping to see him fail. Nothing is as damaging to an international star as ignorance and lack of recognition, this will be a big step towards making Ali a star in India.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

You cannot ban one country to trade with you. Unless you can prove they are involved in illict activities.

Total trade was $2bn.

India's total trade is $758bn

Its miniscule.

Any physical description of Afridi after his tweet or Hasan Ali after his antics?

Once again, you are just fudging.... the WTO does not prevent you from finding new markets.

Also the informal trade, illegal (through the porous border) and that routed via gulf states between the two is considerably more. One Indian think tank puts the number at $10 billion including formal and informal and its 70-30 in favour of India.

Your traders have all the control, can simply say .... nah, we are not going to buy or sell stuff to pakistan . Job done. Rather than jumping up and down on the back of bcci and Bollywood, why doesnt GG lobby and emotionally blackmail the traders.... if anything, be consistent on the issue.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Governments don't just fall from Mars. Its the same people who you claim to be innocent vote for these Governments. And in Pakistans case these Governments and Military combined have initiated 4 full scale Wars against India. And the root cause of all this that no-one wants to address : Religion. There isnt a single major religion that Islam has not had a conflict with worldwide. Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism. You have major issues with EVERY single major religion in the world. Do you realize that the entire rest of the world being wrong is simply absurd ?

On that logic..... there isn't a single religion in the world that Christianity hasn't been in conflict with...

 

[Tusker]

On that logic..... there isn't a single religion in the world that Christianity hasn't been in conflict with...

Iam talking modern world not middle ages.

 

[Asim_khan]

Iam talking modern world not middle ages.

Islam isn't a country as far as I'm aware, so it can't possibly be at war with anyone

 

[OoparCut]

Its funny how those who criticize Gambhir's opinion for being anti-peace, a big chunk of the same lot need more "evidence" to prosecute the likes of Masood Azhar and Hafeez Saeed.

Can't have it both ways. Its called hypocrisy.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A small minded man display his little views.

No pun intended

 

[cricketjoshila]

Once again, you are just fudging.... the WTO does not prevent you from finding new markets.

Also the informal trade, illegal (through the porous border) and that routed via gulf states between the two is considerably more. One Indian think tank puts the number at $10 billion including formal and informal and its 70-30 in favour of India.

Your traders have all the control, can simply say .... nah, we are not going to buy or sell stuff to pakistan . Job done. Rather than jumping up and down on the back of bcci and Bollywood, why doesnt GG lobby and emotionally blackmail the traders.... if anything, be consistent on the issue.

Ofcourss India can find new markets considerinh how small the trade is. But that will not stop Pakistan from selling its stuff in India. So if Pakistan will sell why not us?

FYI trade is falling.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Gambhir is giving his opinion. He have right too opinion like Afridid did and every one on this forum. We can agree or disagree with Gambhir but cant take away his right to opinion.

 

[MenInG]

Its funny how those who criticize Gambhir's opinion for being anti-peace, a big chunk of the same lot need more "evidence" to prosecute the likes of Masood Azhar and Hafeez Saeed.

Can't have it both ways. Its called hypocrisy.

What's the connection? People are angry about war rubbish being spouted by this man - that's all. The other issue is a legal one.

 

[Rahul1]

I think he takes things way too seriously, he needs to chill.

 

[troodon]

Why is everything that Gambhir says becomes News? By now people should know what Gambhir's views about Pakistan are. So why is this even news? Its not a new revelation.

What X, Y or Z says is their views. Similar to what What Afridi said recently. It does not mean anything.

 

[mankuTimma]

What's the connection? People are angry about war rubbish being spouted by this man - that's all. The other issue is a legal one.

Gambhir just used words and his words doesn’t even affect any Pakistanis but Masood Azhar & Hafeez saeeds are terrorists.

 

[CanadianG00se]

What's the connection? People are angry about war rubbish being spouted by this man - that's all. The other issue is a legal one.

How is he spouting War rubbish? All he said is there should be ban on movement of people till relations improve. How do you find War in it?

Bashing Gambhir for speaking his mind is well known.

 

[MenInG]

How is he spouting War rubbish? All he said is there should be ban on movement of people till relations improve. How do you find War in it?

Bashing Gambhir for speaking his mind is well known.

He'd rather have war then peace, its quite clear.

Bashing Gambhir for talking rubbish is well justified.

 

[MenInG]

Gambhir just used words and his words doesn’t even affect any Pakistanis but Masood Azhar & Hafeez saeeds are terrorists.

So are many others in Indian govt and armed forces. Ask people living in IOK.

 

[CanadianG00se]

He'd rather have war then peace, its quite clear.

Bashing Gambhir for talking rubbish is well justified.

I think you're reading too much in between. He isnt supporting war, just urging minimum or no movement of people till relationship improves which is already happening.

For oridinary citizens getting into each others country is borderline impossible right now.

 

[sshakir411]

What are these talks that were initiated by India? Please list them for me...not Modi coming to meet Sharif for a private party..official talks led by the state? Please someone list them for us so we know Gambhir knows what he's talking about

 

[mankuTimma]

So are many others in Indian govt and armed forces. Ask people living in IOK.

If I ask Kashimiri Pandits will I get same answer?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Ofcourss India can find new markets considerinh how small the trade is. But that will not stop Pakistan from selling its stuff in India. So if Pakistan will sell why not us?

FYI trade is falling.

seriously, how daft are you? Pakistan is not going to catapult it's good over the border. Go to your trade associations and blackmail their members in not to buy stuff from pakistan and buy and sell it elsewhere.... especially as the trade is small as you said. So what's stopping you guys?..... just do it already. don't say WTO.

Till then, the little one ( happy [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] ? and all those ignoring the trade are hypocrites.

 

[UP]

Why is this guy so bitter all the time?

 

[Waseem]

Did you say this to Afridi's tweet as well?

Afridi has been childish at times on cricket field but comes across much more mature off the field, i can totally understand why you take offence to his tweets about Kashmir but Kashmiris themselves love it and support him and it's purely on humanitarian basis. He never disrespected Indians and recently was admired by Indians for his great gesture.

Gambhir on the other hand is a hateful loser who has NEVER said a positive word about Pakistan, hopefully one day he doesn't blow himself on Pakistani border with such extreme hatred. Classless midget!

 

[CricketCartoons]

seriously, how daft are you? Pakistan is not going to catapult it's good over the border. Go to your trade associations and blackmail their members in not to buy stuff from pakistan and buy and sell it elsewhere.... especially as the trade is small as you said. So what's stopping you guys?..... just do it already. don't say WTO.

Till then, the little one ( happy [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] ? and all those ignoring the trade are hypocrites.

Pakistani mangoes should be banned from being imported, as its seeds are a threat to the native flora and can cause biological damage. With their large size and urdu labels, they stick out like a sore throat in the local market where I live and the arabs coming for medical tourism prefer to buy those mangoes thinking they are halaal certified.

 

[Madplayer]

Gambhir , "oh i have been removed from Delhi captaincy! Looks like the effect of my poisonous rants is over. Time to spit more venom against Pakistanis."

 

[cricketjoshila]

What are these talks that were initiated by India? Please list them for me...not Modi coming to meet Sharif for a private party..official talks led by the state? Please someone list them for us so we know Gambhir knows what he's talking about

Vajpayee 1999.

Modi didnot come for a pvt visit.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Afridi has been childish at times on cricket field but comes across much more mature off the field, i can totally understand why you take offence to his tweets about Kashmir but Kashmiris themselves love it and support him and it's purely on humanitarian basis. He never disrespected Indians and recently was admired by Indians for his great gesture.

Gambhir on the other hand is a hateful loser who has NEVER said a positive word about Pakistan, hopefully one day he doesn't blow himself on Pakistani border with such extreme hatred. Classless midget!

What makes you think Indians do not like what Gambhir is saying?

By the posts on this forum its very clear that Pakistanis by large support a secessionist movement in India and consider someone like Burhan Wani a hero. If thats the truth why should such people be allowed to make money in India?

Atleast Gambhir didnot go to work in Pakistan and then bad mouthed Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

seriously, how daft are you? Pakistan is not going to catapult it's good over the border. Go to your trade associations and blackmail their members in not to buy stuff from pakistan and buy and sell it elsewhere.... especially as the trade is small as you said. So what's stopping you guys?..... just do it already. don't say WTO.

Till then, the little one ( happy [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] ? and all those ignoring the trade are hypocrites.

Blackmail people? What is this? Banana republic?
Is america able to stop manufacturing being shifted to China?

Trade is already falling.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Afridi supporting secessionism in India is humanitarian.

Gambhir wanting a ban on Pakistanis working in India is a problem.

The hypocrisy. Lol.

 

[OoparCut]

What's the connection? People are angry about war rubbish being spouted by this man - that's all. The other issue is a legal one.

The war rubbish is being spouted precisely because of the other issue. The "other issue" has been spilling Indian blood for 30 years. I really don't know why sensible Pakistanis fail to see the connection. Peace can't happen if we keep pretending that the history of the last 30 years doesn't exist. And don't address it.
I say this as someone who strongly wishes to see peace between our countries.

And by the way, no matter how loud you shout, arresting/kidnapping a glorified messenger boy named Kulbhushan doesn't create any false equivalence.

 

[sshakir411]

Vajpayee going to Lahore and signing the Lahore declaration. Everyone knows how the PakMil reacted to the that threat of peace disrupting its mafia feudal empire.

Vajpayee 1999.

Modi didnot come for a pvt visit.

So we had to go back to 99. What about all the progress made with Pakistan during the Mush era? I guess it doesn't count when Pak Military actually tried finding a solution with India. Also Modi did not come on an official state visit...there was no official follow up nor were there any talks between diplomats from both sides.

 

[OoparCut]

So we had to go back to 99. What about all the progress made with Pakistan during the Mush era? I guess it doesn't count when Pak Military actually tried finding a solution with India. Also Modi did not come on an official state visit...there was no official follow up nor were there any talks between diplomats from both sides.

Check your time-line. In this current version of reality, the "progress" of the Mush era was derailed by gruesome murders of hundreds of innocent citizens in my city. By an organization that is now being "mainstreamed" by your Military.

Indian government should not take part in any NAUTANKI of peace talks with the toothless "leaders" of Pakistan. Not until the actual leaders make changes to their "non-state actor" policy. And stop protecting murderers of innocents.

Any honest Pakistani who wants peace between India and Pakistan should be advocating for a change in Pakistani policy. I remember reading a Pakistani politician was quoted last year after a visit to France "Hafiz Saeed ne kaun se andey diye hai, ki we have to keep protecting him?"

 

[mankuTimma]

So we had to go back to 99. What about all the progress made with Pakistan during the Mush era? I guess it doesn't count when Pak Military actually tried finding a solution with India. Also Modi did not come on an official state visit...there was no official follow up nor were there any talks between diplomats from both sides.

That 99 backstab created huge trust deficiancy.Seeing what happened to a statesman like Vajpayee made sure every other Indian leader to be ultra defensive when dealing with Pakistan.

 

[sshakir411]

Check your time-line. In this current version of reality, the "progress" of the Mush era was derailed by gruesome murders of hundreds of innocent citizens in my city. By an organization that is now being "mainstreamed" by your Military.

Indian government should not take part in any NAUTANKI of peace talks with the toothless "leaders" of Pakistan. Not until the actual leaders make changes to their "non-state actor" policy. And stop protecting murderers of innocents.

Any honest Pakistani who wants peace between India and Pakistan should be advocating for a change in Pakistani policy. I remember reading a Pakistani politician was quoted last year after a visit to France "Hafiz Saeed ne kaun se andey diye hai, ki we have to keep protecting him?"

Here we go with your daily tirade. Check your time line...Musharraf was not in power when Mumbai happened.

It's funny how you don't call it progress when Pakistan Military proved Indians wrong and worked on finding a solution because it doesn't fit your narrative of 'Pak Military is the bogey man'.

You had to go back to 99 for one friggin example of when India initiated anything (so much for crying out loud about always wanting peace)....but overlooked 2003 when the Chief of Pakistan Army broke all protocol and reached out to Vajpayee leading to the best relations both countries have seen with each other in recent history.