India should ban Pakistanis from all industries until relations improve: Gautam Gambhir

[sshakir411]

That 99 backstab created huge trust deficiancy.Seeing what happened to a statesman like Vajpayee made sure every other Indian leader to be ultra defensive when dealing with Pakistan.

The same Vajpayee was shaking hands with the chief of Pakistan Army in 2002...so there goes your theory

 

[cricketjoshila]

So we had to go back to 99. What about all the progress made with Pakistan during the Mush era? I guess it doesn't count when Pak Military actually tried finding a solution with India. Also Modi did not come on an official state visit...there was no official follow up nor were there any talks between diplomats from both sides.

What progress in Mush era? India was stupid to have engaged in thay era when terror attacks in India became frequent ultimately culminating in 26/11.

Follow up? Within couple of weeks we had pathankot attacks. What follow up after tgat?

Within months of Lahore we had Kargil.


Thanks but we have had enough of engagements. Until Pakistan decides not to poke its nose in India, any engagements are futile.

 

[OoparCut]

The same Vajpayee was shaking hands with the chief of Pakistan Army in 2002...so there goes your theory

India and its government have consistently tried to make peace with Pakistan. Problem is that Pakistan Army doesn't want to make peace unless it can "win" in Kashmir. And India won't make peace if it "loses" in Kashmir. So the deadlock remains.

 

[sshakir411]

Its funny how your twisted version of history forgets incidents like the Jaish attack on India's parliament in 2001. And the Chief of Pakistan army was arm-twisted into making a commitment that "nothing will happen across the line of control" by his Amreeki overlords. A commitment that has since been broken by PakMil.

Prove it buddy or this is just another Indian theory.

 

[sshakir411]

What progress in Mush era? India was stupid to have engaged in thay era when terror attacks in India became frequent ultimately culminating in 26/11.

Follow up? Within couple of weeks we had pathankot attacks. What follow up after tgat?

Within months of Lahore we had Kargil.


Thanks but we have had enough of engagements. Until Pakistan decides not to poke its nose in India, any engagements are futile.

What were the terrorist attacks in India from 2003-2007?

 

[cricketjoshila]

The same Vajpayee was shaking hands with the chief of Pakistan Army in 2002...so there goes your theory

Yes and Mussharaff left the Agra Summit in a huff after he was told that until Pakistan stops supporting terrorism in India, India will not give any assurances

 

[mankuTimma]

The same Vajpayee was shaking hands with the chief of Pakistan Army in 2002...so there goes your theory

That’s a second attempt from him but by then even he knows it’s lost cause.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Governments don't just fall from Mars. Its the same people who you claim to be innocent vote for these Governments. And in Pakistans case these Governments and Military combined have initiated 4 full scale Wars against India. And the root cause of all this that no-one wants to address : Religion. There isnt a single major religion that Islam has not had a conflict with worldwide. Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism. You have major issues with EVERY single major religion in the world. Do you realize that the entire rest of the world being wrong is simply absurd ?

You're talking about Jews who were expelled from every country they entered for 2000 years, hence the Jewish Question

 

[sshakir411]

So because we had 4 years where the terror machine was shut down, the previous 15 years, or the 10 years after that don't matter? And the preacher who held public rallies, with his minions giving on-stage performances of how his holy warriors attacked and killed Indians at the Red Fort, is now allowed to re-invent himself as a charity driven Islamic Santa Claus?

funny...Pakistan held up it's part of the deal only to be disappointed and snaked by Indians in Afghanistan

 

[sshakir411]

That’s a second attempt from him but by then even he knows it’s lost cause.

I think Pakistan has known that since the 80s about dealing with Indians

 

[OoparCut]

funny...Pakistan held up it's part of the deal only to be disappointed and snaked by Indians in Afghanistan

Oh yes, building dams, roads and the Afghan Parliament building by Indians is really SNAKY.

 

[OoparCut]

I think Pakistan has known that since the 80s about dealing with Indians

Respectfully, Pakistan knows f-all about dealing with Indians. They aren't allowed to do so by their zamindari feudal lords in uniform.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What were the terrorist attacks in India from 2003-2007?

January 27, 2003 2003 Mumbai bombing

March 13, 2003 2003 Mumbai train bombing
July 28, 2003 2003 Mumbai bus bombing

August 25, 2003 Mumbai Bombing

Jan 02, 2004 Jammu railway station attack
August

July 5, 2005 2005 Ram Janmabhoomi attack Ayodhya

July 28, 2005 2005 Jaunpur train bombing

October 29, 2005 2005 Delhi bombings: Three powerful serial blasts in New Delhi at different places


March 7, 2006 2006 Varanasi bombings: Three synchronized terrorist attacks in Varanasi in Shri Sankatmochan Mandir and Varanasi Cantonment Railway Station


July 11, 2006 2006 Mumbai train bombings: Series of 7 train bombing during the evening rush hour in Mumbai Mumbai

August 25, 2007 August 2007 Hyderabad bombings - Two blasts in Hyderabad's Lumbini park and Gokul Chat. Hyderabad

November 24, 2007 A series of near-simultaneous explosions at courthouse complexes in the cities of Lucknow, Varanasi, and Faizabad

January 1, 2008 Terror attack on CRPF camp in Rampur, Uttar Pradesh by Lashkar-e-Taiba,Uttar Pradesh

May 13, 2008 Jaipur bombings: 9 bomb blasts along 6 areas in Jaipur Jaipur

July 25, 2008 2008 Bangalore serial blasts: 8 low intensity bomb blasts in Bangalore

July 26, 2008 2008 Ahmedabad bombings: 17 serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad

September 13, 2008 13 September 2008 Delhi bombings: 5 bomb blasts in Delhi markets

September 27, 2008 27 September 2008 Delhi bombing: Bombings at Mehrauli area, 2 bomb blasts in Delhi flower market Delhi

November 26, 2008 2008 Mumbai attacks


This is a list i had copied few years ago and posted on PP. Its not at all exhaustive. There will more.

 

[cricketjoshila]

funny...Pakistan held up it's part of the deal only to be disappointed and snaked by Indians in Afghanistan

Pakistan has kept its part of deal? Lol.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Year 2555:
Pakistani and Indians still fighting (led by people like Gambhir) while a significant number of people still suffer.

RIP sanity.

 

[mankuTimma]

BJP should give a ticket to Gambhir in next elections.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is Ghambir a member of the RSS?

Afridi doesn't hate India, he was speaking up for people who are suffering.

Hasan Ali was having banta, a bit of fun, a laugh.

Indians esp supporters of the right wing parties are way too sensitive and Ghambir looks like a frightened little man. I would ignore this clown.

 

[Adijazz1706]

BJP should give a ticket to Gambhir in next elections.

True, they need a boost

 

[mankuTimma]

Is Ghambir a member of the RSS?

Afridi doesn't hate India, he was speaking up for people who are suffering.

Hasan Ali was having banta, a bit of fun, a laugh.

Indians esp supporters of the right wing parties are way too sensitive and Ghambir looks like a frightened little man. I would ignore this clown.

How do you know Gambhir is not speaking up for people who suffering?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Is Ghambir a member of the RSS?

Afridi doesn't hate India, he was speaking up for people who are suffering.

Hasan Ali was having banta, a bit of fun, a laugh.

Indians esp supporters of the right wing parties are way too sensitive and Ghambir looks like a frightened little man. I would ignore this clown.

What Pakistanis do is fun, What Indians do is hate.

Afridi supports secessionism in India.

If i go by views on PP, majority of Pakistanis support secessionism of Kashmir from India. Well why should they be given an oppurtunity to earn money in India?

 

[Poutine]

I wonder if the Pakistani media would cover Gambhir for days and if we would see Pakistani celebrities comment in this? Probably not.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because he is simply too stupid to have any intellectual opinions on such subjects.

All the intelligence lies with the likes of Afridi. Lol. You are in no position to judge anyones intelligence.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What Pakistanis do is fun, What Indians do is hate.

Afridi supports secessionism in India.

If i go by views on PP, majority of Pakistanis support secessionism of Kashmir from India. Well why should they be given an oppurtunity to earn money in India?

Where have I said Pakistanis should be given an opportunity to work in India? If you want my opinion, no self respecting Pakistani would go to India to feed his/her family. There are many other options out there.

My point was Ghambir cant be taken seriously because he spews hate no different to Shiv Sena, RSS or extremist BJP members. He has not made any intelligent points regarding how both nations can improve relations.

 

[KingKhanWC]

All the intelligence lies with the likes of Afridi. Lol. You are in no position to judge anyones intelligence.

Care to clarify?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Where have I said Pakistanis should be given an opportunity to work in India? If you want my opinion, no self respecting Pakistani would go to India to feed his/her family. There are many other options out there.

My point was Ghambir cant be taken seriously because he spews hate no different to Shiv Sena, RSS or extremist BJP members. He has not made any intelligent points regarding how both nations can improve relations.

Why should Gambhir make points that you want him to make? The sense of entitlement you guys have is astonishing.

 

[Pakistanian]

The only people crying a some pakistanis on this thread because Gambhir asked for a ban on employment of Pakistanis.

Afridi supports secessionism in India. Thats what he is.

Breathe. Chill out. You always sound like you're having a panic attack lol.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Breathe. Chill out. You always sound like you're having a panic attack lol.

Some posters on this thread are having a collective panic attack.

 

[Pakistanian]

Some posters on this thread are having a collective panic attack.

Panicking together is better than panicking alone

 

[mankuTimma]

Afridi many times has called for better relations with India, this is more intelligent than a extermist Hindu spouting hatred. Hasan was having fun which is more intelligent than crying.

Afridi have different opinions on different days,he is never consistent and I doubt he even know what he is talking.As per his recent opinion about Kashmir he supports secessionism.

As far as Hasan is considered he is so dumb should learn from Azhar Ali how to act like a sport person.

 

[Poutine]

Some posters on this thread are having a collective panic attack.

Yeah man some random posters on an Internet forum are posting about this. But this pales in comparison to how your media and celebrities reacted to Afirdi's comment. Now that was a full blown panic attack.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why should Gambhir make points that you want him to make? The sense of entitlement you guys have is astonishing.

Again where have I suggested this? Of course he can say what he likes and we are merely commenting because there is a thread regarding his comments. You seem to read/see things which are not there.

The only people crying a some pakistanis on this thread because Gambhir asked for a ban on employment of Pakistanis.

Afridi supports secessionism in India. Thats what he is.

So do most of Kashmiris.

 

[mankuTimma]

Yeah man some random posters on an Internet forum are posting about this. But this pales in comparison to how your media and celebrities reacted to Afirdi's comment. Now that was a full blown panic attack.

We have 100 times more media than you have.

 

[Poutine]

We have 100 times more media than you have.

Sure but Pakistan has a lot of news channels as well. But as of now I don't think any has give any coverage to Gambhir's comment.

IIRC some Indian talk shows , even had entire sgements/episodes dedicated to Afridi.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Again where have I suggested this? Of course he can say what he likes and we are merely commenting because there is a thread regarding his comments. You seem to read/see things which are not there.



So do most of Kashmiris.

Posters posting that Gambhir is war mongering and not about peace. Why should he talk about things posters here want? Why should he support people who want secessionism in India?

What makes you think Gambhir isnt speaking what most Indians want (

And you dont even know what most kashmiris want.

 

[mankuTimma]

Sure but Pakistan has a lot of news channels as well. But as of now I don't think any has give any coverage to Gambhir's comment.

IIRC some Indian talk shows , even had entire sgements/episodes dedicated to Afridi.

We have more regional language channels than overall channels in Pakistan still you rarely hear about Pakistan any day

Regarding Gambhir comment it’s just asking govt to stay neutral while Afridi made a secessionist comment which obviously gets more coverage.if tomorrow Gambhir make a statement saying free Baluchistan even your media goes crazy.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Posters posting that Gambhir is war mongering and not about peace. Why should he talk about things posters here want? Why should he support people who want secessionism in India?

What makes you think Gambhir isnt speaking what most Indians want (

And you dont even know what most kashmiris want.

lol. Nobody expects Ghambir to talk any sense on here.

Please tell me what DO most Kashmiri's want? They want to be part of Jai Hind?

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol. Nobody expects Ghambir to talk any sense on here.

Please tell me what DO most Kashmiri's want? They want to be part of Jai Hind?

When Afridi supports armed secessionist movement in India thats great. When Gambhir wants those people to be banned from India its not sense.

Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[KingKhanWC]

When Afridi supports armed secessionist movement in India thats great. When Gambhir wants those people to be banned from India its not sense.

Talk about hypocrisy.

Afridi only supports the wishes of the majority of Kashmiri's in the land. Ghambir is only spewing hatred. Not the same.

Again. What do the majority of those in Kashmir want? You seem to think you know but are not answering?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Afridi only supports the wishes of the majority of Kashmiri's in the land. Ghambir is only spewing hatred. Not the same.

Again. What do the majority of those in Kashmir want? You seem to think you know but are not answering?

You are speaking for majority of Kashmiris i am not.

Gambhir may be only saying what majority of Indians want. You think Indians think kindly of people who are supporting a armed secessionist movement in India?

 

[Pakistanian]

You are speaking for majority of Kashmiris i am not.

Gambhir may be only saying what majority of Indians want. You think Indians think kindly of people who are supporting a armed secessionist movement in India?

It's the morally right thing to do. Didn't Indians support an armed Bengali secessionist movement?

 

[KingKhanWC]

You are speaking for majority of Kashmiris i am not.

Gambhir may be only saying what majority of Indians want. You think Indians think kindly of people who are supporting a armed secessionist movement in India?

Honestly I think you may need a break supporting India day in day out as you're not making any sense.

Ok let's make it simple. Please answer Yes or No.

Are you saying what Ghambir has said is what the majority of Indians believe?

In your view do the majority of people in Kashmir want to live under Indian rule?

 

[mankuTimma]

Honestly I think you may need a break supporting India day in day out as you're not making any sense.

Ok let's make it simple. Please answer Yes or No.

Are you saying what Ghambir has said is what the majority of Indians believe?

In your view do the majority of people in Kashmir want to live under Indian rule?

Majority of Indians believe we don’t have to do any deal with Pakistan,just stay away from each other.

Regarding Kashmir after Pandits were brutally thrown out but difficult to believe in any consensus.

 

[ZenBowman]

Problem with his (and people like him) is that they will never let relations normalize between Pak and India.

This.

Gambhir is a lunatic. How will relations improve if you don't even allow basic commercial exchange?

This is John-Bolton level logic.

 

[ZenBowman]

If i go by views on PP, majority of Pakistanis support secessionism of Kashmir from India.

Yes, so? People are entitled to their own views. If someone is funding armed militancy, bar them from the country. If they aren't, let them believe what they will.

Well why should they be given an oppurtunity to earn money in India?

There are plenty of Indians that have views I find objectionable (20% of Indians still practice caste discrimination according to surveys). We cannot just ban people we disagree with, it creates a closed and fragile society.

 

[Slim]

Napoleon complex strikes back.

This guy has some serious mental issues. I guess now the foot is on the other foot, BCCI is going to be happy and not throw a hissy fit about it.

 

[PakLFC]

Ban Pak from everything, no one cares. I don't see Pak crying about it. Question is why does India not go ahead with these cheap threats? How wrong are they if they think cheap forms of blackmail will make us obey them and talk their language. Bollywood and Cricket ban's have got them nowhere, the options are running out.

 

[Slim]

When Afridi supports armed secessionist movement in India thats great. When Gambhir wants those people to be banned from India its not sense.

Talk about hypocrisy.

I have seen you repeat the word "secession" in the whole thread.

You might want to check its meaning:

secession
sɪˈsɛʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state.
"the republics want secession from the union"
synonyms: withdrawal, break, breakaway, separation, severance, schism, apostasy, leaving, quitting, split, splitting, disaffiliation, resignation, pulling out, dropping out, desertion, defection
"the republic's secession from the Soviet Union"
historical
the withdrawal of eleven southern states from the US Union in 1860, leading to the Civil War.
singular proper noun: Secession; noun: the Secession
variant of Sezession.
noun: the Secession

Kashmir is a disputed region, therefore there is no such secession when JK is not even part of India. All Afridi talked about was talking against voilent conduct by the terrorist indian army.

Saffron propoganda doesnt works on non-indians.

 

[Tusker]

You're talking about Jews who were expelled from every country they entered for 2000 years, hence the Jewish Question

I don't recall any other Non-Islamic country from which they were expelled with the sole exception of Nazi-Germany. Anyhow the point is about modern world ... do Jews have open conflicts with any other community today ?

 

[FreakCricket]

This low class excuse for a human should keep his mouth shut, his comments regarding Shahid Khan afridi shows his peasant mentality.

 

[moghul]

We need more people like Ghambir to improve the relations

 

[Bilal7]

What an idiot. I don't know what happened with his in the IPL but apparently he had to step down as skipper and has been a complete failure which made a great read this morning.

Easily the most disliked Indian cricketer for me. Iskey andar hamesha sey keera tha.

 

[Bilal7]

I don't recall any other Non-Islamic country from which they were expelled with the sole exception of Nazi-Germany. Anyhow the point is about modern world ... do Jews have open conflicts with any other community today ?

Well, Hinduism is a minor religion that is based in one country and has never had an influence on the world. Ditto with Buddhism.

Islam spans continents; nearly two people out of seven are Muslims. Of course it's going to come into contact with a lot more people than some minor belief system.

As for your rubbish allegations, Jews, Hindus and Christians have actually enjoyed far more rights, safety and prosperity under Muslim empires than vice versa. Take a history class or two and learn about Jerusalem under Muslim control, Muslim Spain, Mughal rule (from unbiased sources), Ottoman Empire and of course the early years of Islam.

 

[Hitman]

Even fools can have consistent views. Mental asylums are full of such people.

Let me have a hearty laugh )

 

[mankuTimma]

Well, Hinduism is a minor religion that is based in one country and has never had an influence on the world. Ditto with Buddhism.

Islam spans continents; nearly two people out of seven are Muslims. Of course it's going to come into contact with a lot more people than some minor belief system.

As for your rubbish allegations, Jews, Hindus and Christians have actually enjoyed far more rights, safety and prosperity under Muslim empires than vice versa. Take a history class or two and learn about Jerusalem under Muslim control, Muslim Spain, Mughal rule (from unbiased sources), Ottoman Empire and of course the early years of Islam.

That’s why in every country where Muslims are minorities having severe problems..be its India/Myanmar/SL/Philliphines

 

[Bilal7]

That’s why in every country where Muslims are minorities having severe problems..be its India/Myanmar/SL/Philliphines

Yes, perhaps said countries should start being a bit more tolerant and not assault children, burn entire villages and commit ethnic cleansing.

Or are you suggesting that the problem here somehow lies with the poor victims?

 

[www787]

I thought India had already banned Pakistani from every Industry.

Trump is about to send back 60,000 Indians back to India.

 

[mankuTimma]

Yes, perhaps said countries should start being a bit more tolerant and not assault children, burn entire villages and commit ethnic cleansing.

Or are you suggesting that the problem here somehow lies with the poor victims?

May be one country or two we can blame Majorities but in every country only one religion people getting attacked means may be root cause is something different.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Poor from Gambhir.

 

[90MPH]

What was your reaction to Hasan Ali's action and Afridi's tweet?

Lol.

When has Afridi war mongered like Gambhir ??

When Has Afridi asked to stop trading wth India or asked All Indians to be kicked out of Pak ??

There is a world of difference between Afridi and Gambhir.

All Afridi said was to give Kashmiris some human rights (only his tweet proved correct weeks later with the rape of 8year old girl participated and even defended by BJP government - that was just one example).

Gambhir not only comes across as a bitter loser on the field, he becomes 10 times worse off it as a bitter human. Was he never told that if he’s got nothing good to say then don’t say it ?

 

[mankuTimma]

Lol.

When has Afridi war mongered like Gambhir ??

When Has Afridi asked to stop trading wth India or asked All Indians to be kicked out of Pak ??

There is a world of difference between Afridi and Gambhir.

All Afridi said was to give Kashmiris some human rights (only his tweet proved correct weeks later with the rape of 8year old girl participated and even defended by BJP government - that was just one example).

Gambhir not only comes across as a bitter loser on the field, he becomes 10 times worse off it as a bitter human. Was he never told that if he’s got nothing good to say then don’t say it ?

Afridi also said Kashmir should be independent that’s against sovereignty of India.When did Gambhir said anything about breaking Paksitan?

 

[Slim]

Afridi also said Kashmir should be independent that’s against sovereignty of India.When did Gambhir said anything about breaking Paksitan?

Kashmir is not part of India, its a disputed area. Please learn the difference before you try to defend GG

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's the morally right thing to do. Didn't Indians support an armed Bengali secessionist movement?

No. They replied to act of aggression called OP Chegiz Khan.

Those who think its morally right to support a armed secessionist movement in India shouldnot come here to earn money.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I have seen you repeat the word "secession" in the whole thread.

You might want to check its meaning:

secession
sɪˈsɛʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state.
"the republics want secession from the union"
synonyms: withdrawal, break, breakaway, separation, severance, schism, apostasy, leaving, quitting, split, splitting, disaffiliation, resignation, pulling out, dropping out, desertion, defection
"the republic's secession from the Soviet Union"
historical
the withdrawal of eleven southern states from the US Union in 1860, leading to the Civil War.
singular proper noun: Secession; noun: the Secession
variant of Sezession.
noun: the Secession

Kashmir is a disputed region, therefore there is no such secession when JK is not even part of India. All Afridi talked about was talking against voilent conduct by the terrorist indian army.

Saffron propoganda doesnt works on non-indians.

For India J and K is Indian territory. Pakistan can disagree but we havent cared for that view for 70yrs wont care for it now or ever.

Pakistanis can believe whatever they want, just dont come to India to make money. Thats what GG is saying.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol.

When has Afridi war mongered like Gambhir ??

When Has Afridi asked to stop trading wth India or asked All Indians to be kicked out of Pak ??

There is a world of difference between Afridi and Gambhir.

All Afridi said was to give Kashmiris some human rights (only his tweet proved correct weeks later with the rape of 8year old girl participated and even defended by BJP government - that was just one example).

Gambhir not only comes across as a bitter loser on the field, he becomes 10 times worse off it as a bitter human. Was he never told that if he’s got nothing good to say then don’t say it ?

Gambhir said what needs to be done to people like Afridi if they want to come to India.

You support secessionism in India, you are not allowed to come here and earn money.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kashmir is not part of India, its a disputed area. Please learn the difference before you try to defend GG

That is Pakistan's belief.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Honestly I think you may need a break supporting India day in day out as you're not making any sense.

Ok let's make it simple. Please answer Yes or No.

Are you saying what Ghambir has said is what the majority of Indians believe?

In your view do the majority of people in Kashmir want to live under Indian rule?

Yes, majority of Indians do share the same view as him. Most of us dont want to anything to do with Pakistan. No war No fake peace No Backstabbing No communication. Live and Let Live.

 

[MenInG]

Yes, majority of Indians do share the same view as him. Most of us dont want to anything to do with Pakistan. No war No fake peace No Backstabbing No communication. Live and Let Live.

Hello!?

Most of us dont want to anything to do with Pakistan. No war No fake peace No Backstabbing No communication. Live and Let Live.

Exactly what are you doing on these forums then?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Hello!?

Most of us dont want to anything to do with Pakistan. No war No fake peace No Backstabbing No communication. Live and Let Live.

Exactly what are you doing on these forums then?

You cant make someone change their opinion can you? Me being on PP or not wont change the reality though.

 

[Majid Khan]

Indeed, nothing will really change as along as such people are around in the sub continent with this typical jingoistic and simplistic mindset which believes : (1) All EVIL lies on the other side of the border, all GOOD lies on our side, (2) They are always WRONG even when they might be right and we are of course always RIGHT even when we happen to be wrong. (3) Everything is their fault, they are the AGGRESSORS, we are the innocent VICTIMS , and (4) only solution for peace is they stop all the wrongdoing they listen to us and accept our terms, and then and ONLY then there can be peace, until then no we won't even talk.

Salute to this great and truly wonderful mindset

 

[desirous of desire]

Indians are supporting Gambhir's views on a Pakistani forumn.Quiet ironic

 

[Thomaskutty]

Gambhir is a rational person and if people don't like his opinion, they can respectfully disagree instead of commenting on how vertically challenged he is.

It's certainly not as controversial as Afridi calling for civil war in India.

 

[Slim]

For India J and K is Indian territory. Pakistan can disagree but we havent cared for that view for 70yrs wont care for it now or ever.

Pakistanis can believe whatever they want, just dont come to India to make money. Thats what GG is saying.

That is Pakistan's belief.

Its not Pakistan belief, it is an internationally recognized political issue. United Nations and rest of the world alongwith Pakistan recognizes it as a disputed region. So does your own state by the way as IOK is not part of Indian federation.

 

[Tusker]

Indeed, nothing will really change as along as such people are around in the sub continent with this typical jingoistic and simplistic mindset which believes : (1) All EVIL lies on the other side of the border, all GOOD lies on our side, (2) They are always WRONG even when they might be right and we are of course always RIGHT even when we happen to be wrong. (3) Everything is their fault, they are the AGGRESSORS, we are the innocent VICTIMS , and (4) only solution for peace is they stop all the wrongdoing they listen to us and accept our terms, and then and ONLY then there can be peace, until then no we won't even talk.

Salute to this great and truly wonderful mindset

I present to you 4 Wars initiated by Pakistan against India .... just incase facts are allowed in this. So who is the Jingo ?

 

[Muddaser]

That's the worlds belief.

 

[Muddaser]

That is Pakistan's belief.

That's the worlds belief.

 

[Muddaser]

Lol.

To all those Indians agreeing with Gambhir.

When you leaving Pakpassion?

 

[shaz619]

I don't think India and Pakistan can ever have a positive relationship much like Palestine and Israel, although the latter are more hostile because here and there you still see friendships between the former.

 

[mankuTimma]

That's the worlds belief.

Which world?

 

[Tusker]

Well, Hinduism is a minor religion that is based in one country and has never had an influence on the world. Ditto with Buddhism.

Islam spans continents; nearly two people out of seven are Muslims. Of course it's going to come into contact with a lot more people than some minor belief system.

[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=142736]English August[/MENTION] @crcketjoshila

We learn new things everyday on PP ... Hinduism and Buddhism are Minor religions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_by_country

So thats more than 1.5 billion people on the planet practicing a "Minor" religions.

So in your parallel World Jews are just nonexistant than given that their population is practically insignificant ( Just 14 Million) ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

As for your rubbish allegations, Jews, Hindus and Christians have actually enjoyed far more rights, safety and prosperity under Muslim empires than vice versa. Take a history class or two and learn about Jerusalem under Muslim control, Muslim Spain, Mughal rule (from unbiased sources), Ottoman Empire and of course the early years of Islam.

Ohhh yeah ? Why dont you tell us how the Hindu + Buddhist population now stands at less than 2% in what is now in the current day called as Pakistan + Afghanistan region which was 100% Non-Islamic before about 8th Century AD and also one of the most prosperous regions in the World ? Where did they all go if they were so well protected and thriving under the great Muslim empires ?

And just for giggles what is this supposedly unbiased source that you talk about Mughals ?

 

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We learn new things everyday on PP ... Hinduism and Buddhism are Minor religions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_by_country

So thats more than 1.5 billion people on the planet practicing a "Minor" religions.

So in your parallel World Jews are just nonexistant than given that their population is practically insignificant ( Just 14 Million) ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country




Ohhh yeah ? Why dont you tell us how the Hindu + Buddhist population now stands at less than 2% in what is now in the current day called as Pakistan + Afghanistan region which was 100% Non-Islamic before about 8th Century AD and also one of the most prosperous regions in the World ? Where did they all go if they were so well protected and thriving under the great Muslim empires ?

And just for giggles what is this supposedly unbiased source that you talk about Mughals ?

Generally speaking, in Muslim empires the non-believers could be safe if they accepted their subordinate position. As the Ottoman Çandarlı Kara Halil Hayreddin Pasha wrote "The conquered are slaves of the conquerors, to whom their goods, their women, and their children belong as lawful possession".

The Mughal Empire gets a lot of attention because it is the most recent Indian empire, but in terms of history it was rather unimportant lasting for only 180 years. In comparison the Chola Empire lasted almost 1,600 years.