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India supports a sovereign and independent Palestine, says Indian PM Narendra Modi

Ahhh the typo move. Totally imploded last time you claimed a typo.

Hehehe.

:)


So it is not a typo then from your part ? a double negative = you agree to my position and accept defeat. Ok. As i said, this is the closest the likes of you can come to admitting defeat, so be it.
 
So it is not a typo then from your part ? a double negative = you agree to my position and accept defeat. Ok. As i said, this is the closest the likes of you can come to admitting defeat, so be it.

I have to say, your grasp of English is poor. I don’t just meant language, but punctuation too.

There is no gap between *!* and *?* when ending a word.

Incorrect : So it is not a typo then from your part ?
Correct : So it is not a typo then from your part?

It's all about the smaller details.

But please carry on. I’m in tears of laughter. Still cannot get over how a Religious state is secular.
 
I have to say, your grasp of English is poor. I don’t just meant language, but punctuation too.

There is no gap between *!* and *?* when ending a word.

First improve your understanding of basic terminologies before you go to syntax. As i have already proven, you claimed you cited something, then you claimed you didnt claim citation. Stop running away and answer that point.

But please carry on. I’m in tears of laughter. Still cannot get over how a Religious state is secular.


Because they are not a religious state. 'Jew' is not just a religious term to Jews, its also a racial term.

Now the whole board is laughing at you.
 
First improve your understanding of basic terminologies before you go to syntax. As i have already proven, you claimed you cited something, then you claimed you didnt claim citation. Stop running away and answer that point.

Because they are not a religious state. 'Jew' is not just a religious term to Jews, its also a racial term.

Now the whole board is laughing at you.

I should also point out, that when saying *I*, is it uppercase, not lower case.

Incorrect : As i have already proven, you claimed you cited something.
Correct : As I have already proven, you claimed you cited something.

I will not even mention the lack of apostrophes!

I never claimed I cited something. Cite me up where I stated this. I dare you. I claimed I mentioned the principle. No wait, you are playing the insulating game again.
 
I should also point out, that when saying *I*, is it uppercase, not lower case.

Incorrect : As i have already proven, you claimed you cited something.
Correct : As I have already proven, you claimed you cited something.

I will not even mention the lack of apostrophes!

I never claimed I cited something. Cite me up where I stated this. I dare you. I claimed I mentioned the principle. No wait, you are playing the insulating game again.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...Indian-PM-Narendra-Modi&p=9607701#post9607701


Your own words: " I already cited the name of the principle on which Israeli citizenship is granted and marriages recognised."

Post 59, this very thread.


You claim to've cited, then you claim to've never claimed to've cited.


As for the last bolded word, you mean 'insinuating'. As i said, punctuation comes after basic comprehension- kindly improve your's.
 
Yup. consistent with what I have said, I mentioned the principle.

:)

You said you cited. Now you are saying you didn't cite.

Your challenge was fulfilled - you asked me to cite you where you said you cited something. Post 59. This very thread. You claimed to've cited something.

Again, improve your comprehension. 'Mention' is not 'cited/citation'. You cited nothing and got found out when you claimed you cited something. No need to lie.

You've been caught lying yet again. As i said, child, its okay to admit your errors and move on instead of trying to hide them.
 
yet again, empty claims with zero evidence.
I have already provided the Israeli government link that shows you don't have to be jewish to immigrate to Israel.

There is such a thing called Secular Jewish nation, because Jews officially consider themselves to be both a race and a religion. So under that definition, there can be a secular jewish nation, just like there can be a secular Belgian (a race of people) nation.

We can disagree on facts or information but why shy away from your personal opinion?

I will ask again..

If a Jewish man marries a non-Jewish woman from abroad, their children will not be Jews and thus wont be able to marry in Israel. There is no civil marriage law in Israel, it has to be done via a religous method.

Do you agree with this?
 
We can disagree on facts or information but why shy away from your personal opinion?

I will ask again..

If a Jewish man marries a non-Jewish woman from abroad, their children will not be Jews and thus wont be able to marry in Israel. There is no civil marriage law in Israel, it has to be done via a religous method.

Do you agree with this?

What do you mean 'do you agree with this' ? do i agree with this principle ? Or do i agree with the factuality of your statement ?

Because the answer is no to both of them.

Please provide evidence that their children won't be considered Jews.
 
Anyways, back to the thread topic.

I wonder, has there been a Pakistani that has been awarded the highest honor by Palestinian Authority ?
 
As for the last bolded word, you mean 'insinuating'. As i said, punctuation comes after basic comprehension- kindly improve your's.

*your's* when it should be *yours*

*i* when it should be *I*

You have the gall to tell me to improve my punctuation?

Suffice to say, I have learned my lesson with you. You are not what you say you are, just a pretender. You just like to post opposing stuff for the sake of it.

However, I will give credit here it is due, you have been a barrel of laughs.

(I still cannot get over how a Religious state can be secular.)
 
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You said you cited. Now you are saying you didn't cite.

Your challenge was fulfilled - you asked me to cite you where you said you cited something. Post 59. This very thread. You claimed to've cited something.

Again, improve your comprehension. 'Mention' is not 'cited/citation'. You cited nothing and got found out when you claimed you cited something. No need to lie.

You've been caught lying yet again. As i said, child, its okay to admit your errors and move on instead of trying to hide them.

You only fulfilled 10% of the challenge.

So long Captain Citation! No hard feelings. :)
 
*your's* when it should be *yours*

*i* when it should be *I*

You have the gall to tell me to improve my punctuation?

No, read again. I said kindly improve your comprehension. You used the word 'cited', then claimed you didn't say you 'cited'. Blatant lie. Proven.
Oh - the most basic punctuation, is the full-stop. Use it before you lecture others on punctuation.

Suffice to say, I have learned my lesson with you. You are not what you say you are, just a pretender. You just like to pose opposing stuff for the sake of it.

You mean you are overwhelmed by my citations and reasoned position, while being unable to justify any of your (baseless) opinions. Ok.

However, I will give credit here it is due, you have been a barrel of laughs.

(I still cannot get over how a Religious state can be secular.)

if you could read better, you'd see this has been answered already twice.


No harm in admitting you made an error- you claimed you cited, then backtracked. C'mon now. You are better than this.
 
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What do you mean 'do you agree with this' ? do i agree with this principle ? Or do i agree with the factuality of your statement ?

Because the answer is no to both of them.

Please provide evidence that their children won't be considered Jews.

Have you had a brain freeze? You are an atheist who is opposed to religion in the state. On this basis do you oppose the FACT there is no civil marriage in Israel for Jews and also a child of a non-Jewish woman cannot get married in Israel? Yes or No will do.
 
*your's* when it should be *yours*

*i* when it should be *I*

You have the gall to tell me to improve my punctuation?

Suffice to say, I have learned my lesson with you. You are not what you say you are, just a pretender. You just like to post opposing stuff for the sake of it.

However, I will give credit here it is due, you have been a barrel of laughs.

(I still cannot get over how a Religious state can be secular.)

He's a hardcore atheist who is a true supporter of secularism but thinks the BJP and Israel are great. He's has shown his hypocrisy and foolishness, like no other poster I've ever come across.
 
Have you had a brain freeze? You are an atheist who is opposed to religion in the state. On this basis do you oppose the FACT there is no civil marriage in Israel for Jews and also a child of a non-Jewish woman cannot get married in Israel? Yes or No will do.

I have no reason to believe what you are claiming is a FACT. Can you substantiate your claim with Israeli government evidence please ?

Also, opposing the policies of a state, does not mean i am going to object to the existence of the said state.
i dislike Pakistan as a state. because its a religous hell-hole. That doesn't mean i want Pakistan to cease existing, it means i want Paksitan to become secular.
 
He's a hardcore atheist who is a true supporter of secularism but thinks the BJP and Israel are great. He's has shown his hypocrisy and foolishness, like no other poster I've ever come across.

Please show me where i used the word 'great' in association with israel or BJP.
 
thats your opinion.

So why are you running away from the fact that you claimed you cited something, then tried to backtrack when busted for it ???

No. In your eyes a citation is a link to a source or an article. I made it clear I cited the name of a principle [which you quoted thus proving me correct. So when you claimed I cited something, you were basically saying I cited a link. Which I didn’t. You then resorted to a pedantic technicality, thank God it was not a typo.

There's no backtrack, just your inability to stick with what you have said. You can appreciate how someone responding to you can be confused, because you never stick to your opinion. You shuffle from one post to another.

In the process you have anointed yourself in praise calling yourself a scientist who has exceptional citation skills. Even if this notion is granted, you do not read your citation, let alone understand them.

It would be more fun (and educational dare I say), if you were consistent in your views.

Anyway, Like I said, no hard feelings. I have learned my lesson.
 
I have no reason to believe what you are claiming is a FACT. Can you substantiate your claim with Israeli government evidence please ?

Also, opposing the policies of a state, does not mean i am going to object to the existence of the said state.
i dislike Pakistan as a state. because its a religous hell-hole. That doesn't mean i want Pakistan to cease existing, it means i want Paksitan to become secular.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-is-there-no-civil-marriage-in-israel/

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-why-interfaith-marriage-is-on-the-rise-1.5250507

As a secular atheist, do you also condemn Israel for not allowing Gays to marry?

Do you agree a Jew can marry abroad and bring his/her spouse over but an Arab Israeli cannot do the same if he/she marries from the West Bank?

Go ahead make your views on Israel, loud and clear please. You seem to be shying away.
 
Please show me where i used the word 'great' in association with israel or BJP.

I was giving my opinion on what you think and didnt suggest you used the word great.

Again go ahead, make it clear what you think of both nations and their governments.
 
No. In your eyes a citation is a link to a source or an article. I made it clear I cited the name of a principle [which you quoted thus proving me correct. So when you claimed I cited something, you were basically saying I cited a link. Which I didn’t. You then resorted to a pedantic technicality, thank God it was not a typo.

Sorry. You are wrong.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/citation?s=t

definitions 1-4 are inapplicable in this context. Definitions 5-7 are applicable.

Dictionary defines citation as :
"
5.
the act of citing or quoting a reference to an authority or a precedent.
6.
a passage cited; quotation.
Synonyms: excerpt, passage, extract, quote.
7.
Also, cite. a quotation showing a particular word or phrase in context."

Ergo, you claimed citation. yet you failed to present any reference for it to qualify as a citation.
Ergo, your claim is dismissed as false.

As i said, kindly improve your English.


There's no backtrack, just your inability to stick with what you have said. You can appreciate how someone responding to you can be confused, because you never stick to your opinion. You shuffle from one post to another.

Post # 59: You claim you cited.
post # 86: You claim you never claimed citation.

Sounds like backtracking to me.

In the process you have anointed yourself in praise calling yourself a scientist who has exceptional citation skills. Even if this notion is granted, you do not read your citation, let alone understand them.

It would be more fun (and educational dare I say), if you were consistent in your views.

Anyway, Like I said, no hard feelings. I have learned my lesson.

I hope the lesson you've learnt, is not to pass off your ** opinions as facts and present citation when asked to do so.
 
I was giving my opinion on what you think and didnt suggest you used the word great.

Again go ahead, make it clear what you think of both nations and their governments.

better than both your nation of origin and mine and their respective governments.
 
Have you had a brain freeze? You are an atheist who is opposed to religion in the state. On this basis do you oppose the FACT there is no civil marriage in Israel for Jews and also a child of a non-Jewish woman cannot get married in Israel? Yes or No will do.

Bhai, I have understood his psychology. The reason he accepts a Jewish state (despite this acceptance contradicting his personal views and beliefs) is because Israel stands against everything Pakistan stands for. Not just at a national and political level, but at a religious level too. I expect him to praise Judaism even though it is from the same strand of Monotheism, which includes Islam. (I am sure he will verify this from Google).

This is why the only evidence, anecdotal, he has, is a *friend*.

He is unaware that Donald Trump’s Daughter, Ivanka, had to convert to Judaism in order to marry a Jew, and renamed herself, Yael Kushner, before she decided to settle in Israel through Citizenship.

Alas! His friend knows better.
 

These are not government sources. I asked you to provide official substantiation, not newspaper clippings with no reference.

As a secular atheist, do you also condemn Israel for not allowing Gays to marry?

Yep.

Do you agree a Jew can marry abroad and bring his/her spouse over but an Arab Israeli cannot do the same if he/she marries from the West Bank?

Please provide evidence for said claim. Again, government sources only.

Go ahead make your views on Israel, loud and clear please. You seem to be shying away.

I consider the nation of Israel, right now, has a right to exist. They are a bit behind the times to the western world, but far more liberal and civilized than their immediate neighborhood.
 
better than both your nation of origin and mine and their respective governments.

Speak for Bangladesh not for Pakistan. You've never been there and hopefully never will.


You've been found out, a secular atheist who supports the Jewish state and a right hing Hindutva government. You've spent your whole Saturday only to make a fool of yourself.
 
If it helps you sleep better at night, then sure.

I guess this is the closest you are going to come to admitting error, despite being proven wrong by citation from dictionary. I hope you are learning on how citation works.

Let's stick to topic. Let's get serious and see how much you are really up for debate.

As soon as you can admit your errors, we can move forward, child.
 
Speak for Bangladesh not for Pakistan. You've never been there and hopefully never will.


You've been found out, a secular atheist who supports the Jewish state and a right hing Hindutva government. You've spent your whole Saturday only to make a fool of yourself.

You've admitted in this very thread that the bolded part is your opinion, unsubstantiated from anything I have said.

So your opinion is irrelevant to what i actually said. I said i don't really have a problem with BJP. That is a far cry from supporting the BJP.
As for Israel- i have specifically stated that i support their right to exist.
 
These are not government sources. I asked you to provide official substantiation, not newspaper clippings with no reference.

lol, This is Israeli media. Why do you think they are lying? :)


I consider the nation of Israel, right now, has a right to exist. They are a bit behind the times to the western world, but far more liberal and civilized than their immediate neighborhood.

Occupying land, sea and air is liberal in your world? Black Jews are discriminated, is liberal in your view? Using chemical weapons is liberal?
 
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You've admitted in this very thread that the bolded part is your opinion, unsubstantiated from anything I have said.

So your opinion is irrelevant to what i actually said. I said i don't really have a problem with BJP. That is a far cry from supporting the BJP.
As for Israel- i have specifically stated that i support their right to exist.

Your own posts prove this. I've never come across a secular atheist who agrees with religious extremists, you are a first. :)
 
Your own posts prove this. I've never come across a secular atheist who agrees with religious extremists, you are a first. :)

Thats coz i don't consider them religous extremists.
My own posts prove no such thing, since as i said, saying 'i dont have a problem' does not equate 'i support them'.
 
I thought as much.

You just are not ready. You are just toying with posters.

In the words of Trump, you are FAKE NEWS!

Sorry, but did you miss the post where i proved you wrong re: your definition of citation ???

You cannot fight the dictionary and win, child. As i said, be a better man, admit you made an error and move forward.
 
Sorry, but did you miss the post where i proved you wrong re: your definition of citation ???

You cannot fight the dictionary and win, child. As i said, be a better man, admit you made an error and move forward.

Stop wasting my time. You are not fit for debate.

See yah!
 
Your own posts prove this. I've never come across a secular atheist who agrees with religious extremists, you are a first. :)

Absolutely.

He defended BJP on this forum which means he is supportive of them. In the same way he is defending Jews by supporting a Jewish state.

Bharatiya Janata Party is a right-wing party nationalist party with is based on a fascist ideology, Hindutva. He fails to realise that extremism is always, 100%, associated with Right-wing politics.
 
Stop wasting my time. You are not fit for debate.

See yah!

Says the man who cannot cite when asked, cannot admit an error when proven wrong, cannot even accept that he mis-spoke when directly quoted from two seperate instances.

You keep saying 'see yah' but keep failing to live up to those words. Basic lack of self discipline i suppose.
 
You keep saying 'see yah' but keep failing to live up to those words. Basic lack of self discipline i suppose.

More lies.

I only said *'see yah* once. Another challenge. Cite me up and show me another instance where I said *see yah*. I double dog dare you. You failed both challenges today, 3rd time lucky?

You need help.
 
More lies.

I only said *'see yah* once. Another challenge. Cite me up and show me another instance where I said *see yah*. I double dog dare you. You failed both challenges today, 3rd time lucky?

You need help.

I have already proven you false in this thread, something you ran away from without addressing the post-quote # 104.
We can all see, you are too small a man to admit your mistakes when pointed out.
So until you can admit your first mistakes, its pointless to try and address your later mistakes.

Baby steps, child. Baby steps !!!

PS: The only person needing help, is the one who cannot admit a mistake, even when proven to've made a mistake !!
 
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lol, This is Israeli media. Why do you think they are lying? :)
Don't care for media. Care for official sources on official policy. Pretty simple standard.

Occupying land, sea and air is liberal in your world? Black Jews are discriminated, is liberal in your view? Using chemical weapons is liberal?

Again, as i said, far more liberal than anything in their immediate neighborhood.
I made a relativistic statement, not an absolute statement.
 
I have already proven you false in this thread, something you ran away from without addressing the post-quote # 104.
We can all see, you are too small a man to admit your mistakes when pointed out.
So until you can admit your first mistakes, its pointless to try and address your later mistakes.

Baby steps, child. Baby steps !!!

Meaning you cannot.

You have been reduced to repeating the same hymns. Such is the power of the truth.

Forget *See yah*, I'm done with you.
 
Meaning you cannot.

You have been reduced to repeating the same hymns. Such is the power of the truth.

Forget *See yah*, I'm done with you.

As i said, the evidence of you lying, lies exposed in this very thread.
The fact that you've been unable to substantiate your position and have consistently shifted the burden of proof from the claimant, to the skeptic, is also for all to see.

Maybe one day,when you grow up, you will be fit enough to debate older gents like myself.
 
Modi can’t and will not support Palestinian state, to Israel, Palestine doesn’t exist and try to make sure it remaining part will seized to exist as Palestine, Modi will not go against Israel.
 
What does that even mean ?

Basically ye the Delhi sultanate was a Muslim from Afghanistan called Gauri who battered the rajputs and died and his Mamluk slave called Qutb took over tings and the rest is history

If Modi can get Ramallah to become independent he could be the next Don King
 
All the American Pakistani Punjabis I know hate their paindoo roots from Pakistan and like to call themselves ethnic Amriki. [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

These type of expats are a bunch of low life losers. Worst type of people there are
 
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