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* Fixture: India vs Australia, 1st ODI
* Venue: Optus Stadium, Perth, Australia
* Date: Sunday, October 19

Key Storylines & Team News
India: The Dawn of a New Era
* New Captaincy: The series officially begins the ODI captaincy era of Shubman Gill, who takes over from Rohit Sharma. The team will be looking to start its long-term preparation for the 2027 ODI World Cup.
* The Return of Veterans: Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma return to the ODI fold after a break following the Champions Trophy triumph. Their experience will be crucial, and all eyes will be on how they perform under the new skipper. Rohit will play solely as an opener.
* Injuries/Absences: India will be without key all-rounder Hardik Pandya (due to injury) and premier pacer Jasprit Bumrah (rested as part of workload management).

* Squad Opportunities: The absence of key players opens the door for young talents and fringe players like Nitish Kumar Reddy (expected to replace Pandya) and pace bowlers like Harshit Rana and Prasidh Krishna.
Australia: Missing Key Personnel
* Captaincy: All-rounder Mitchell Marsh will captain the team in the absence of the injured full-time skipper, Pat Cummins.
* Other Absences: Australia is also missing a few key players. Wicketkeeper Josh Inglis is ruled out, Alex Carey is playing domestic cricket, and star leg-spinner Adam Zampa is unavailable for family reasons.
* Team Balance: The home side's batting lineup might look slightly inexperienced, especially with the retirement of Steve Smith from ODIs earlier this year. Their focus will be on their formidable pace attack, led by Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood.

Venue & Pitch Report
* Venue Characteristics: Optus Stadium in Perth is renowned for its pace and bounce. This will be a significant test for the Indian batsmen, especially those returning to Australian conditions.
* History: India has never played an ODI at Perth Stadium before, while Australia has not had much success in their limited outings at the venue.
* Prediction: Expect a fast, true wicket that should favor the fast bowlers, offering them good carry. A competitive total would likely be around the 280-300 mark, though the pitch can certainly support high scores.

Match Prediction
This promises to be an exciting clash between two world-class teams. India comes in with strong recent form and the momentum of a new captaincy era, but will be tested by the pacy Perth pitch. Australia, despite missing their captain and a few other regulars, always presents a stiff challenge at home, especially with their pace attack. The team that handles the pace and bounce of the Perth pitch better is likely to take a 1-0 lead in the three-match series.
 
Some snippets:

India missing Bumrah, Pant and Hardik Pandya

Australia missing Cummins, Inglis and Zampa (Besides some players who recently retired)

It's a new stadium, where India defeated Australia last year, with Jaiswal and Kohli scoring century.
 
India playing eleven

Rohit
Gill
👑
Iyer
KL ( Wk)
Nitish Reddy
Axar Patel
Kuldeep
Siraj
Arshdeep
Harshit Rana

This team lack batting depth without HARDIK

:kp
 
1. Rohit
2. Gill
3. Virat
4. Shreyas
5. Rahul
6. Reddy
7. Washington/Jurel
8. Axar
9. Kuldeep
10. Siraj
11. Arshdeep
 
Both Australia and India are cut above everyone in ODIs even with missing players. It is the quality of the Cricket that I am excited about. After watching some real low quality Asia cup this will be a breath of fresh air.
 
1. Head
2. Marsh
3. Short
4. Green
5. Renshaw
6. Owen
7. Phillippe
8. Connolly
9. Starc
10. Hazelwood
11. Bartlett/Kunhemann
 
Both Australia and India are cut above everyone in ODIs even with missing players. It is the quality of the Cricket that I am excited about. After watching some real low quality Asia cup this will be a breath of fresh air.
India-Sri Lanka super 4 match was exciting, even Oman for some time were in business against us.
 
India-Sri Lanka super 4 match was exciting, even Oman for some time were in business against us.
9 for 33 collapse lol it was a horrible Asia cup with sluggish pitch. India played well below par with not much challenge. They were experimenting with bowling and batting order right through the Asia cup
 
1. Head
2. Marsh
3. Short
4. Green
5. Renshaw
6. Owen
7. Phillippe
8. Connolly
9. Starc
10. Hazelwood
11. Bartlett/Kunhemann
Some new names there. But likes of Short and Renshaw are around from a while and hasn’t had much success. Joshua Phillipe opened batting for RCB (2020-23) but didn’t impressed.
 
Last time I went to Perth was for a wwe event. I'm thinking I should travel to watch one game. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. Likely I won't.
 
Renshaw is being looked as a Labuschagne replacement.

Connolly is an all-rounder left arm spinner, can hit big, probably Maxwell role for him.

Owen is Symonds like big hitter, wonder why Tim David hasn't been selected.
Connelly sucks. I hate him. The rest are 🔥 selections
 
It was match of the year. Styles should have been Cena's last opponent.

Coming back to this match, with rain around looks like a seaming wicket.
Last wwe comment and after that I'll take it to timepass.

Match of the year was probably cena vs Cody at Summerslam.

Yes the story and build up was absolutely awful due to the botched heel run and they ended it early but the match itself was 🔥.

Cena vs Aj have great chemistry but the match focused too much on nostalgia with finishers upon finishers of other superstars and that emotional Bray wyat send off bit they were trying to hard to get into emotional feels.

Theirs also the fact that this match literally exists out of spite. It wasn't on the cards. Cena even performed moves of Kevin ownes, Randy Orton, and Edge ahainst sami zayn cause he knew that he would never face them again.

The reason this match happened cause Cena got frustrated with Wwe lying about him from claims such as

1) I want brock to come back and work with him.

2) I Wanted the heel turn

3) I had full creative control on storytelling.

He called them out on twitter and demanded a match with Aj.

That's why this match exists otherwise og plans weren't for cena to wrestle at Crown jewel, onoy make an appearance to hype up Survivor Series.
 
India ODI unit needs revision. Let us face it. Rohit and Kohli are occupying two key positions. You can't plug and play any player and expect similar output. Jaiswal replacing Rohit will be reasonably straight forward though. But no.3 spot in ODI is similar to no.4 spot in Tests. Your best has to own that spot. Iyer is more a no.4 spot player. Rahul is no 5 now. India has to groom someone who can play risk free and long innings at no.3
 
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India ODI unit needs revision. Let us face it
. But no.3 spot in ODI is similar to no.4 spot in Tests. Your best has to own that spot. Iyer is more a no.4 spot player. Rahul is no
5 now. India has to groom someone who can play risk free and long innings at no.3
As per agarkar, tilak is preferred for 3. So kohli will have to compete with him. But tilak had a abysmal series last time against sa in odi series. I hope he improved with his strike rotation issues. There were multiple net practice videos and cricinfo reports suggesting rohit was looking quite rusty and struggling with balls outside off.gambhir will cut him off in 2 odis if he doesn't perform. It was completely foolish of rohit to be not battle ready in this circumstances
 
Injury forces Australia into squad change for India ODIs

Cameron Green to miss the India ODIs due to injury, with top-order batter Marnus Labuschagne named as his replacement.

Australia have been dealt a massive blow with all-rounder Cameron Green ruled out their upcoming three-match ODI series against India.

Green experienced low grade side soreness at training this week and will miss the series that commences in Perth on Sunday, with in-form batter Marnus Labuschagne called up as his replacement.

Australia's Cameron Green nearly gave away his wicket while also losing his bat, but England missed the chance despite four fielders converging in on the catch.

Labuschagne had initially been left out of the squad, but the right-hander earns a reprieve on the back of some good scores at domestic level.

Green's latest injury is a blow to Australia, given he only just returned to the bowling crease after a long battle with a back injury and is coming off a brilliant innings of 118* in his most recent ODI appearance for his country.

The setback is only considered minor and Green is expected to return at domestic level later this month ahead of the first Ashes Test against England next month according to a Cricket Australia spokesperson.

"Green will complete a short period of rehabilitation and is tracking to return to play in round three of the Sheffield Shield to continue his preparation for the Ashes," the spokesperson confirmed.

Australia squad: Mitchell Marsh (c), Xavier Bartlett, Cooper Connolly, Ben Dwarshuis, Nathan Ellis, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Matthew Kuhnemann, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Owen, Josh Philippe, Matthew Renshaw, Matthew Short, Mitchell Starc. Games two and three only: Adam Zampa, Alex Carey, Josh Inglis

ICC
 
India misses batting depth if they do not play Washington or Jurel as Prasidh & Harshit can't bat.
Jurel is impossible. We can't do 4 bowlers + Reddy.

I'm assuming we'll sacrifice depth. We cannot go with less than 3 quicks. Only other option is to sacrifice Kuldeep which we're unlikely to do. Otherwise the lineup more or less writes itself.
 
There's always swing at Perth. Ball swings more there than anywhere else in Australia
I was going to disagree but theirs no point cause I'll jinx that too.

If I say it'll be a flat pitch, then we are bound to get a swingy mamba. So sure brother. I agree.

Sadly SA isn't here to save me this time :qdkcheeky
 
Jurel is impossible. We can't do 4 bowlers + Reddy.

I'm assuming we'll sacrifice depth. We cannot go with less than 3 quicks. Only other option is to sacrifice Kuldeep which we're unlikely to do. Otherwise the lineup more or less writes itself.
Thinking about gg obsession till 8.

6 reddy
7 axar
8 washi
9 kuldeep
10 & 11 arshdeep/siraj/rana
 
Thinking about gg obsession till 8.

6 reddy
7 axar
8 washi
9 kuldeep
10 & 11 arshdeep/siraj/rana
Just playing 2 quicks in Perth seems off. If we had Hardik, I'd be okay with Reddy and Hardik sharing 12 overs. leaving 18 for the Axar + Kuldeep. Perth has changed but it's still a pretty hard unforgiving pitch for spinners before Day 4. In the first test, Sundar was the only spinner we played I think.
 
Just playing 2 quicks in Perth seems off. If we had Hardik, I'd be okay with Reddy and Hardik sharing 12 overs. leaving 18 for the Axar + Kuldeep. Perth has changed but it's still a pretty hard unforgiving pitch for spinners before Day 4. In the first test, Sundar was the only spinner we played I think.
In 2016 perth odi against ind, aus have chased 320 odd with out breaking sweat i think.so if the pitch is not as spicy as test matches or gg doesn't believe roko, he may opt for batting till 8.last bgt selection circus happened due to roko. Yesterday ,cricinfo mentioned rohit was struggling in the nets .now its all about gut feel from management i guess .Apart from starc and Josh, no quality pacers too .green is out of odis now.
 
Jurel is impossible. We can't do 4 bowlers + Reddy.

I'm assuming we'll sacrifice depth. We cannot go with less than 3 quicks. Only other option is to sacrifice Kuldeep which we're unlikely to do. Otherwise the lineup more or less writes itself.
Ideally, it should have been something like 4 bowlers + Reddy + Parag .

India needs to get comfortable playing with a batting heavy balance even in this format.
 
In SENA, a fourth seamer is better. I'd pick another fast bowler over Kuldeep.
Kuldeep should be real good addition in Perth with that bounce.warne had a great success. I hope he plays.Moreover Aussies such as Marshall, head etc are ftbs.They are good to negate bounce but not equipped technically to handle top quality wrist spin.
 
Kuldeep should be real good addition in Perth with that bounce.warne had a great success. I hope he plays.Moreover Aussies such as Marshall, head etc are ftbs.They are good to negate bounce but not equipped technically to handle top quality wrist spin.
I'm leaning towards that. Swap Kuldeep for Sundar and we bat down to 8. It seems a pity given how effective he's been but I'm not sure how much value Kuldeep will add in Perth.

Imo, India need to focus on pace and batting depth, considering it's in South Africa. We historically have been over reliant on spin and it doesn't work even on Indian pitches in ODIs.


Combination should either be 6 batsmen + 1 allrounder + 4 bowlers with one of the batsmen doubling up as 6th bowler (Parag is ideal for this combination)

OR

5 batsmen + 3 allrounders + 3 bowlers

We should have 4 seaming options in any XI

They have to pick the squad of 15 with these considerations in mind imo
 
Jurel is impossible. We can't do 4 bowlers + Reddy.

I'm assuming we'll sacrifice depth. We cannot go with less than 3 quicks. Only other option is to sacrifice Kuldeep which we're unlikely to do. Otherwise the lineup more or less writes itself.
No i don't think Gambhir will sacrifice batting depth, the batting depth has helped India in winning the T20 World Cup 2024, Champions Trophy 2025 & recently Asia Cup 2025. They will give it a go in first 2 ODIs to see if this template works out in pace bowling conditions.
 
Injury forces Australia into squad change for India ODIs

Cameron Green to miss the India ODIs due to injury, with top-order batter Marnus Labuschagne named as his replacement.

Australia have been dealt a massive blow with all-rounder Cameron Green ruled out their upcoming three-match ODI series against India.

Green experienced low grade side soreness at training this week and will miss the series that commences in Perth on Sunday, with in-form batter Marnus Labuschagne called up as his replacement.

Australia's Cameron Green nearly gave away his wicket while also losing his bat, but England missed the chance despite four fielders converging in on the catch.

Labuschagne had initially been left out of the squad, but the right-hander earns a reprieve on the back of some good scores at domestic level.

Green's latest injury is a blow to Australia, given he only just returned to the bowling crease after a long battle with a back injury and is coming off a brilliant innings of 118* in his most recent ODI appearance for his country.

The setback is only considered minor and Green is expected to return at domestic level later this month ahead of the first Ashes Test against England next month according to a Cricket Australia spokesperson.

"Green will complete a short period of rehabilitation and is tracking to return to play in round three of the Sheffield Shield to continue his preparation for the Ashes," the spokesperson confirmed.

Australia squad: Mitchell Marsh (c), Xavier Bartlett, Cooper Connolly, Ben Dwarshuis, Nathan Ellis, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Matthew Kuhnemann, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Owen, Josh Philippe, Matthew Renshaw, Matthew Short, Mitchell Starc. Games two and three only: Adam Zampa, Alex Carey, Josh Inglis

ICC
Good to see Labuschagne back in form & team.
 
5 batsmen + 3 allrounders + 3 bowlers

We should have 4 seaming options in any XI

They have to pick the squad of 15 with these considerations in mind imo
I think this may be possible if pandya at 6 and nitish at 7.washi/axar at 8. Kuldeep at 9. We need kuldeep and bumrah as strike bowlers.If nitish can pick up himself in 2 years time, it should be very good for us. If Tilak comes in place of kohli, its one more option too.
 
Imo, India need to focus on pace and batting depth, considering it's in South Africa. We historically have been over reliant on spin and it doesn't work even on Indian pitches in ODIs.


Combination should either be 6 batsmen + 1 allrounder + 4 bowlers with one of the batsmen doubling up as 6th bowler (Parag is ideal for this combination)

OR

5 batsmen + 3 allrounders + 3 bowlers

We should have 4 seaming options in any XI

They have to pick the squad of 15 with these considerations in mind imo
6 batter combination only works if you count Axar as a full bowler which he's more than.

Parag is good in theory but he's barely bowling even for India A. They gave him maybe a couple of overs in the rest ODI series against Australia A.

5+3+3 is the best

3 allrounders chosen from Hardik, Nitesh, Axar and Sundar depending on health and conditions.

3 quicks.
 
6 batter combination only works if you count Axar as a full bowler which he's more than.

Parag is good in theory but he's barely bowling even for India A. They gave him maybe a couple of overs in the rest ODI series against Australia A.

5+3+3 is the best

3 allrounders chosen from Hardik, Nitesh, Axar and Sundar depending on health and conditions.

3 quicks.
The problem with that combination is I'm not sure if Hardik will be anywhere near as good as he was in 2019 or even 2023. Im tempted to play 3 full fast bowlers unless Hardik is at his very best with the ball

India, and Indian fans, need to forget about looking for a quality 6th bowler. It's not that important .

Literally no other team does it. We should always pick the better batsman imo.
 
Now that Rohit is no longer the captain, Gill as a captain & no.1 ranked batsmen in the ODI format should do Rohit's role at the top. Will Gill be able to do what Rohit has been doing since Jan-Feb 2023?
 
The problem with that combination is I'm not sure if Hardik will be anywhere near as good as he was in 2019 or even 2023. Im tempted to play 3 full fast bowlers unless Hardik is at his very best with the ball

India, and Indian fans, need to forget about looking for a quality 6th bowler. It's not that important .

Literally no other team does it. We should always pick the better batsman imo.
If one of 5 bowlers is having a bad day, there has to be a 6th bowling option especially in ODI & T20I.
 
Just playing 2 quicks in Perth seems off. If we had Hardik, I'd be okay with Reddy and Hardik sharing 12 overs. leaving 18 for the Axar + Kuldeep. Perth has changed but it's still a pretty hard unforgiving pitch for spinners before Day 4. In the first test, Sundar was the only spinner we played I think.

Hardik is more reliable than reddy with the ball.
 
Hardik is more reliable than reddy with the ball.
Of course. Hardik has 10 years of wiliness in the IPL and at the highest international level to call on.

On the other hand, Reddy is young but has looked useful in Australia and England when he's bowled. He's our main hope as a seam bowling allrounder for the future and the Indian selectors are fully committed to investing in him.

Between them, I'd be comfortable trusting the third seamer role. Without Hardik though, it's tough to imagine it working. We'll need a third seamer even if we have to drop a star like Kuldeep.
 
Of course. Hardik has 10 years of wiliness in the IPL and at the highest international level to call on.

On the other hand, Reddy is young but has looked useful in Australia and England when he's bowled. He's our main hope as a seam bowling allrounder for the future and the Indian selectors are fully committed to investing in him.

Between them, I'd be comfortable trusting the third seamer role. Without Hardik though, it's tough to imagine it working. We'll need a third seamer even if we have to drop a star like Kuldeep.
Redy can not be a Test all rounder. His bowling is not that level.
Playing him as a third seamer in white ball is also not safe , so India will have play 3 seamers. With three seamers India bowling will be potent.
 
Interesting India are invited for early summer, let's see ODIs in Australia are always good to watch
 
Redy can not be a Test all rounder. His bowling is not that level.
Playing him as a third seamer in white ball is also not safe , so India will have play 3 seamers. With three seamers India bowling will be potent.
Because of Axar and Sundar when needed, we're okay on allrounders for most pitches. Reddy needs to be good enough to be a fourth seamer on pitches that need it while maintaining a 35 average. I think he's shown enough promise for that.

Can he be eventually good enough to be a third seamer on pitches where we want 2 spinners? Tough to say yet in ODIs but his T20 bowling figures are not promising.
 
Because of Axar and Sundar when needed, we're okay on allrounders for most pitches. Reddy needs to be good enough to be a fourth seamer on pitches that need it while maintaining a 35 average. I think he's shown enough promise for that.

Can he be eventually good enough to be a third seamer on pitches where we want 2 spinners? Tough to say yet in ODIs but his T20 bowling figures are not promising.

Being fourth bowler means India will go with three other seamers. And in that case India may not play specialist spinner.
 
Australia in tourble tbh in the first ODI.. Green was in good form, Inglis was also doing fine and Zampa is their main spinner for some time and all these guys are not available... Cummins also not there... India can win the game and I think INdia is good enough to even win the series here.
 
Australia in tourble tbh in the first ODI.. Green was in good form, Inglis was also doing fine and Zampa is their main spinner for some time and all these guys are not available... Cummins also not there... India can win the game and I think INdia is good enough to even win the series here.
India has no Siraj, Shami, Bumrah, Pandya. It is a totally rookie unit that is going to be bowling in pace friendly conditions. Practically no bowling. If Australia loses to this side they should be embarrassed of htemselves.
 
India has no Siraj, Shami, Bumrah, Pandya. It is a totally rookie unit that is going to be bowling in pace friendly conditions. Practically no bowling. If Australia loses to this side they should be embarrassed of htemselves.
Siraj is in the ODI team, you can add Pant to the list of missing Indian players in the squad.
 
Being fourth bowler means India will go with three other seamers. And in that case India may not play specialist spinner.
Depends on the pitch obviously. India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies & UAE, we don't need a third seamer. Even a pitch or two in Australia.

England, Australia, South Africa & New Zealand, we do. That's why Pandya has been so critical to the balance of our side. He could fill the role in a pinch.

If Reddy can't eventually step up (we have 2-3 years of Pandya yet so it's not urgent), it'll be a tough bullet to bite but we'll have to give up Kuldeep on some pitches. There's no shortage of spin bowling all-rounders to fill in the overs but that middle over wicket taking threat will be a big miss.
 
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