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India vs New Zealand | 18th Match, World Cup | Nottingham | June 13, 2019 | Match abandoned

How people can blame ICC? lol. They can't control the weather.

They can control many other things-

-Scheduling the tournament from end of June to beginning August, not end of May to beginning July.
-Reserve days
-Improving facilities for drying the ground.
 
How? They will be at 7 Points if the match is abandoned. Still have matches against England, Australia , Pakistan, WI, Sa all strong sides need to win 3 of those atleast.

Winning just two will put them at 11 and they have a way better run rate than all other teams
 
How? They will be at 7 Points if the match is abandoned. Still have matches against England, Australia , Pakistan, WI, Sa all strong sides need to win 3 of those atleast.
We probably only need 2 wins given our NRR. 2 wins and a wash out would seal a semi spot.
 
It will if they postpone all the matches for 1 or 2 weeks... Otherwise it will be pretty embarrassing and they will incur a lot of losses! OR shift it to South Africa...
 
I can only imagine what is going through the minds of the international fans who paid for tickets to watch the games. I bet they would not complain about reserve days!
 
How can you forget we rolled you over for 100 a week ago in these conditions.

In the same conditions If India had bowled first (which India declined) NZ would have rolled over for 100. You basically bank on cloudy conditions bowling first and boult clicking. India doesn't need any of that. They won a match in identical conditions without Kohli even after being at 22/4.
 
Did nz made it to semis?
They are on 7 points off 4 games
They have 5 left they need to win 3 to seal the spot
 
In the same conditions If India had bowled first (which India declined) NZ would have rolled over for 100. You basically bank on cloudy conditions bowling first and boult clicking. India doesn't need any of that. They won a match in identical conditions without Kohli even after being at 22/4.
We all saw how you do in English conditions when the ball is moving around in the CL Final. First innings or second, it doesn't matter.
 
We all saw how you do in English conditions when the ball is moving around in the CL Final. First innings or second, it doesn't matter.

Ball was definitely not moving in CT final.

PCT does not score 350+ in seaming conditions. You don't have to look far for proof for that. Just look at yesterday's highlights.

Fact of the matter is that NZ a very good team but a notch below IND in terms of class. That was also evident after the 4-1 drubbing they received earlier in the year.

NZ can beat India only under one situation - overcast/green conditions and NZ win the toss and bowl first and Boult gets quick wickets.

In every other situation it's advantage India. No question about it.
 
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This World Cup should be renamed as Rain Cup. What a disappointment it has been ! Totally unfair to every team, every fans.
 
They can control many other things-

-Scheduling the tournament from end of June to beginning August, not end of May to beginning July.
-Reserve days
-Improving facilities for drying the ground.

They've scheduled the tournament like one year ago correct me if i am wrong. You can't have accurate forecast for next year. Second thing is uk weather cycle is so unpredictable.
Reserve days for all matches is impossible in any aspect. There will be huge mess for everyone, teams, staff, hotels, broadcasters, cattering etc etc. Yes i do agree they should improve ground facilities.
 
We all saw how you do in English conditions when the ball is moving around in the CL Final. First innings or second, it doesn't matter.

You struggle in both type of conditions. Moving, non moving. That is why you lost 1-4.
 
Other way around, most Indians wont want to admit it but there was a good chance they were going to lose today.

I’ll admit it. But without worrying about the result India should look to play today as Shikhar won’t be available for the next couple of games either. The new XI needs to settle down asap. Going into that high pressure match against Pakistan with untested players is not a good thing.
 
You struggle in both type of conditions. Moving, non moving. That is why you lost 1-4.
Yeah to a team that was testing combinations lmao.

Come the WC what happen? What was it again? 90/7 :)))

CdG went right through "King" Kohli :asad1
 
In the same conditions If India had bowled first (which India declined) NZ would have rolled over for 100. You basically bank on cloudy conditions bowling first and boult clicking. India doesn't need any of that. They won a match in identical conditions without Kohli even after being at 22/4.

if that was an actual match India would have been win that game even after batting first and score only about 170s..
 
Yeah to a team that was testing combinations lmao.

Come the WC what happen? What was it again? 90/7 :)))

CdG went right through "King" Kohli :asad1

You are clutching at straws. That was a warm up game lol. NOt the real game.
 
Ball was definitely not moving in CT final.

PCT does not score 350+ in seaming conditions. You don't have to look far for proof for that. Just look at yesterday's highlights.

Fact of the matter is that NZ a very good team but a notch below IND in terms of class. That was also evident after the 4-1 drubbing they received earlier in the year.

NZ can beat India only under one situation - overcast/green conditions and NZ win the toss and bowl first and Boult gets quick wickets.

In every other situation it's advantage India. No question about it.

he is trying to troll and rile up Indian fans :). don't fall for it.. he pretty well knows NZ is an inferior team to India on most days. They can still beat us, but not consistently and certainly it is not a foregone conclusion
 
he is trying to troll and rile up Indian fans :). don't fall for it.. he pretty well knows NZ is an inferior team to India on most days. They can still beat us, but not consistently and certainly it is not a foregone conclusion

NZ was lucky to escape from Bangladesh humiliation thanks to Rahim's pathetic keeping.
 
Yeah to a team that was testing combinations lmao.

Come the WC what happen? What was it again? 90/7 :)))

CdG went right through "King" Kohli :asad1

what happens?? India beats two good team convincingly, while NZ huffed and puffed against BD...
 
You are clutching at straws. That was a warm up game lol. NOt the real game.
That game had more meaning to it than any of the JAMODI games in NZ where Kane was testing out players outside WC conditions. Literally saved all the game plans for the tournament and let India score runs all for the sake of seeing who should be going to the WC. Meanwhile you gave our players a proper look at Chalal and Yadav, giving the players in match practice and footage on how to play them.
 
Yeah to a team that was testing combinations lmao.

Come the WC what happen? What was it again? 90/7 :)))

CdG went right through "King" Kohli :asad1

when their team is so pathetic that they have to hold on to the practice match.. i pity kiwi fans..
 
when their team is so pathetic that they have to hold on to the practice match.. i pity kiwi fans..
Practice? That was the warm up to what was supposed to happen today. Thank the rain gods or you would have been rolled for another embarrassing score in 3 out of 4 of the last games against us.
 
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That game had more meaning to it than any of the JAMODI games in NZ where Kane was testing out players outside WC conditions. Literally saved all the game plans for the tournament and let India score runs all for the sake of seeing who should be going to the WC. Meanwhile you gave our players a proper look at Chalal and Yadav, giving the players practice and footage on how to play them.

He was doing a good job of practicing how to lose matches. that is what NZ needs most against any decent team :) meanwhile India were practicing on how to win matches after resting their key player which will come handy now that Dhawan is out
 
That game had more meaning to it than any of the JAMODI games in NZ where Kane was testing out players outside WC conditions. Literally saved all the game plans for the tournament and let India score runs all for the sake of seeing who should be going to the WC. Meanwhile you gave our players a proper look at Chalal and Yadav, giving the players in match practice and footage on how to play them.

If you seriously think India is going to use Bumrah only for 4 overs that too he was bowling well below his capability then you are living in an alternate world. You are chest thumping only because match is not going to happen due to rain. Let us see how far you get in this world cup.
 
If you seriously think India is going to use Bumrah only for 4 overs that too he was bowling well below his capability then you are living in an alternate world. You are chest thumping only because match is not going to happen due to rain. Let us see how far you get in this world cup.
As if he would have defended 170, the only reason you made that many in the first place is because Kane wanted the team to have a proper hit out or it would have been all out for under 100.
 
Between, It seems Umpires have been hyper active throughout the day doing multiple inspection

the Next One Scheduled in 5 min time. looks like they really want to ensure match gets underway
 
As if he would have defended 170, the only reason you made that many in the first place is because Kane wanted the team to have a proper hit out or it would have been all out for under 100.

Yes he would have lol India didn't care about winning. It is all about getting few bowlers into groove. Your performance against BD is a proof that your team is not that good as you hype like you are some world beater.
 
If you seriously think India is going to use Bumrah only for 4 overs that too he was bowling well below his capability then you are living in an alternate world. You are chest thumping only because match is not going to happen due to rain. Let us see how far you get in this world cup.

chest thumping is his coping mechanism. India is far from unbeatable champion side but certainly better than NZ on most days. Against almost all teams India will start as favorites except may be against England (slightly lower odds) and Australia (slightly higher odds).
 
Between, It seems Umpires have been hyper active throughout the day doing multiple inspection

the Next One Scheduled in 5 min time. looks like they really want to ensure match gets underway

Since it is India's match. But still not having match because of ground condition is pathetic.
 
Please Guys don’t blame the ICC regarding scheduling.

British weather just sucks, simple as that. It’s never predictable because it’s an island in the Atlantic facing weather systems in all directions.

All you can do is have the best drainage systems.
 
Seems like rain is going to rob a point from India,Nz is very lucky to get away with a point which they don't deserve..
 
Please Guys don’t blame the ICC regarding scheduling.

British weather just sucks, simple as that. It’s never predictable because it’s an island in the Atlantic facing weather systems in all directions.

All you can do is have the best drainage systems.
"All you can do is have the best drainage systems"...dont think they do....just now on air Irfan p and gauti gambo asked why donot they cover the whole outfield tarpulin/plastic....like they do in eden gardens, kolkata or even a few SL grounds....am surprised considering the amt of rain eng gets...they dont do this more often
 
Please Guys don’t blame the ICC regarding scheduling.

British weather just sucks, simple as that. It’s never predictable because it’s an island in the Atlantic facing weather systems in all directions.

All you can do is have the best drainage systems.

They can cover entire ground so when rain stop play start soon bu they not .
 
India's tough matches will be against Pak and England. If they eke out one win out of it it will be smooth sailing. Almost. BD will give some fight may even give some nervous moments. SL/Afghanistan will be wiped out.
 
What a disgraceful WC so far. No wonder its a dying game and only appeals to the sub-continent as we suck at other sports.
 
Please call off this faltu tournament now. How can anyone take this tournament seriously now? Give share cup to Eng and India.
 
New Zealand will bottle the semi-final game make no mistake about it. They have the luck factor sitting at the top. The team playing them in the semis has a sure path to the final.
 
It's a bit unfortunate to have this many wash outs in a single tournament.
 
There goes an easy NRR boost for India.

Boult is precisely the type of bowler Indians and Rahul would have loved to campaign on as prep for the real test, which is Amir and Pakistan.

I don't think India will meet New Zealand again this tournament.

From Indian perspective, the game they would have preferred washed out would be the West Indies one. It's unconventional and unpredictable teams like that that give them far more problems than teams like new zealand where the plan just makes itself - see off Boult, Ball 6th stump to Kane, let Ross choke himself out.
 
There goes an easy NRR boost for India.

Boult is precisely the type of bowler Indians and Rahul would have loved to campaign on as prep for the real test, which is Amir and Pakistan.

I don't think India will meet New Zealand again this tournament.

From Indian perspective, the game they would have preferred washed out would be the West Indies one. It's unconventional and unpredictable teams like that that give them far more problems than teams like new zealand where the plan just makes itself - see off Boult, Ball 6th stump to Kane, let Ross choke himself out.

Just because Pakistan messed it up, doesn't mean every other team will.

You just need to play deep and play 50 overs. WI runs out of gas after 20 overs. Which Pakistan failed to do.
 
Other way around, most Indians wont want to admit it but there was a good chance they were going to lose today.

Yeah we were going to lose to a side that huffed and puffed against BD and were thrashed 4-1 by our B team. Makes sense :)
 
Bad luck for India. It should have been good match for sure.

Spinners are key against new Zealand.
 
Yeah we were going to lose to a side that huffed and puffed against BD and were thrashed 4-1 by our B team. Makes sense :)

Now wait for [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] to bring out his favourite escape routes

1. NZ were testing out combinations.
2. Indian population and still only 2 WCs
3. NZ are rugby champions and other sports as well. India has only cricket.
4. Warm up match and it is apparently greater than JAMODIs
 
They showed the ground. Pathetic drainage system for a first world country. As KP pointed out key fielding areas were muddy. It could cause serious injuries to fielders. Rightfully they called off. What an awful world cup this is turning out to be.
 
Just because Pakistan messed it up, doesn't mean every other team will.

You just need to play deep and play 50 overs. WI runs out of gas after 20 overs. Which Pakistan failed to do.

Indians should be far more weary about their batting than bowling. They are pretty fearless team who would probably attack you from ball 1 and risk 36/3 but are just as capable being 70/0 in 7 overs. It feels like all results are always on when West Indies is playing and most conventional strategy books go out the window.
 
Which match actually has a good forecast? I am really interested now.

met is the most reliable one. BBC is showing less rain. If it is shortened game it will make it more even and take out India's advantage. Shortened games are always better for team batting second or the less fancied teams
 
Now wait for [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] to bring out his favourite escape routes

1. NZ were testing out combinations.
2. Indian population and still only 2 WCs
3. NZ are rugby champions and other sports as well. India has only cricket.
4. Warm up match and it is apparently greater than JAMODIs

and also that India lost to Pak in the CT final. he forgets that India are one the most successful teams in CT, which itself is a tournament on life support. I don't know how India losing to Pak, which by the way a very good performance by Pak, makes India lose to NZ
 
with this washout New Zealand has probably got one foot on the final four spot. Only a miracle can get Pakistan anywhere near final four spots.
 
How are SL matches looking? SO far they have 2 wash outs.

actually their fate is more in their hands than Pak. Just win their next 5 matches and they are in Semis without having to depend on NRR. Same with NZ. Pak will miss out even if they win all their remaining matches. NZ has to win only three out of their five matches to knock Pak out as they have a superior run rate
 
Now wait for [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] to bring out his favourite escape routes

1. NZ were testing out combinations.
2. Indian population and still only 2 WCs
3. NZ are rugby champions and other sports as well. India has only cricket.
4. Warm up match and it is apparently greater than JAMODIs

Hehe . That bilateral series thrashing in NZ came as a shock I suppose :P
 
Indians should be far more weary about their batting than bowling. They are pretty fearless team who would probably attack you from ball 1 and risk 36/3 but are just as capable being 70/0 in 7 overs. It feels like all results are always on when West Indies is playing and most conventional strategy books go out the window.

WI has rarely blown away Indians like they did with Pakistan, England. Couple of matches they skiltted out India under 200 where Kohli and Sharma didn't play. Indians are rarely troubled by pace and bounce of West Indians.

As far as their batting goes. India always manages to come back somehow against them even after frenetic cricket. That is the beauty of 50 over game. you can come back.
 
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