India vs New Zealand | Semi Final 1, World Cup | Old Trafford | 9th Jul, 2019 | New Zealand Innings

[Jeetlodil]

So the rain is forecast for about 2 hours ish..
It is 2pm local time at the moment -
Depending on when play is resumed it might easier for India if the target is revised?

If only 2 hours, I dont think overs will be lost. Always easier to chase if DLS comes in

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

meanwhile floodlights are on....rain forecast for 2 hours...this will be tricky for us...

 

[AdamM97]

Even 1 wicket early will put a lot of pressure on India.

Take Rohit and Kohli out and you’ve done your job. Having said that, it’s going to be hard for NZ to do that.

 

[Jeetlodil]

Indian batting is good but even Kane struggled. So it may be difficult out there.

 

[sada90]

pathetic batting display from kiwis ..

 

[jnaveen1980]

good point....u gotta unsettle by doing somehting different...i guess Jazz boom is good enough to notice and react...buyt yeah....it will make him think diffrerently....

Delivery point of Bumrah is far ahead of lot of other pace bowlers. His 140k will be quicker than Starc's 140k for a batsman. Because his release point is further down. You think Kohli didn't do that in the IPL? No he couldn't smash him around. Only two guys who hit Bumrah around were Pant and Dinesh Karthik. You need to be an exceptional puller to do that.

 

[cricketfan11]

If only 2 hours, I dont think overs will be lost. Always easier to chase if DLS comes in

If the match is shortened and target revised it will be easier to chase.
Rohit Sharma will just smash it around the park

 

[Green Patriot]

Yes I know he is smart and knows his game
Hence I said better to try and shuffle around a bit or bat outside crease, in the event he launches a full toss instead
What is the point of just defending it....they need runs so better to take a risk and get out rather than just blocking everything for a dot

True that and even if their ploy isnt very successful it can always unsettle the bowler and he might lose his nerves.After all its a WC semifinal and there is always pressure.
Besides they do have 5 wickets left.No need to preserve them.Go all out an hit it and get to the best you can.

 

[Mercurial]

How is the weather forecast? Anyone in the stadium?

 

[Tapeballcricket]

How is the weather forecast? Anyone in the stadium?

Not looking good for a while. I am one mile away from the stadium.

 

[Chokli]

It's going to rain the rest of the night

 

[Aman]

We need to get out there and finish our innings..

D/L will kill us.

 

[Mercurial]

Not looking good for a while. I am one mile away from the stadium.

Ok, thank you.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Watch KL Rahul bat like a sheep today.

 

[cricketfan11]

Not looking good for a while. I am one mile away from the stadium.

Probably assume there won't be any progress for at least 2 hours if not more.
Just checked the weather forecast and there is a 56% or more chance of rain until 6pm.
So at this stage looks like a revised target and easier for India...

 

[CanadianG00se]

Bumrah is quick and unplayable in the death overs.
But, despite the pace, I wonder if NZ batsmen will consider batting outside the crease or shuffling back and forth between overs to unsettle him.
I know easier said than done but it might be the only way to convert a potential yorker into a full toss.

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho

 

[Indiafan]

Indian batting is good but even Kane struggled. So it may be difficult out there.

Rain may help the ball come to the bat better

 

[rhony]

KP raising good point here. Why didn't NZ unleash Boult on a fresh pitch

 

[Firebat]

We need to get out there and finish our innings..

D/L will kill us.

Thought you went to sleep?

 

[rhony]

Rain may help the ball come to the bat better

The same reason why NZ was able to score 50 in the last 5. It's bad luck for them to have to walk out and break that momentum

 

[watchman99]

India batting is too strong
Deadly openers.. world No.1, greatest babysitter, greatest finisher, nidahas champion, Kapil Dev II,

how can NZ stop this?

 

[Mercurial]

Decision of a tied SF or Final on the basis of Super Over has to be the most illogical and nonsensical thing ever in Cricket. You decide a tied 50 over game on the basis of Super Over? What a joke.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I haven’t seen a game yet. But heard that pitch is pretty terrible for Semi. I wonder if England would have got this pitch how would the entire English team and media would be crying. I don’t want ICC purposely create flat pancakes for their matches and undercooked pitches for other teams.

 

[watchman99]

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho

Batters should learn some dance moves!

 

[Indiafan]

Decision of a tied SF or Final on the basis of Super Over has to be the most illogical and nonsensical thing ever in Cricket. You decide a tied 50 over game on the basis of Super Over? What a joke.

what would you suggest?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Bhai kehna kya chahte ho

Yorker sir yorker

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

will be easier to chase with wet outfield.

 

[Indiafan]

It's going to rain the rest of the night

2 hours is the prediction

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

250 would be difficult to chase here.

 

[arunpsm]

Methinks KW & darzee have put on a fighting total already...

 

[rhony]

250 would be difficult to chase here.

Ball won't swing or turn with the wet ball. Pitch gets faster. The question again. Why did NZ choose to bat

 

[Mercurial]

what would you suggest?

Make it a 10 overs contest, at least, may be. I am not quite sure though. Super Over makes sense in T20I cricket, but not in ODI cricket.

 

[Mercurial]

There must be a way to crack Bumrah. The guy gets away in almost every match.

 

[jnaveen1980]

237 in 46 overs when they are 211/5 in 46 overs? what a farce of a target. I am not even sure they will get to 237 in 50 overs.

 

[Tapeballcricket]

Probably assume there won't be any progress for at least 2 hours if not more.
Just checked the weather forecast and there is a 56% or more chance of rain until 6pm.
So at this stage looks like a revised target and easier for India...

What happens if the match doesn't continue at all today? whats the cut off time, and do they start from scratch tomorrow?

 

[RamLakhan]

Make it a 10 overs contest, at least, may be. I am not quite sure though. Super Over makes sense in T20I cricket, but not in ODI cricket.

The points in the league stage/NRR/Head-to-head and other parameters which I think they have is fair enough to decide the winner. No need of super over or 10 overs!

 

[watchman99]

What happens if the match doesn't continue at all today? whats the cut off time, and do they start from scratch tomorrow?

Continue from current situation

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Watch KL Rahul bat like a sheep today.

70 ball 40 maybe.

 

[Deewana]

There must be a way to crack Bumrah. The guy gets away in almost every match.

He has a unique action, people think his yorkers make him difficult but the thing is that because of his action he gets some nasty bounce from good length that makes him deceptive
remember umer akmal of all people smashing him clt20 for lahore vs Mumbai

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

What happens if the match doesn't continue at all today? whats the cut off time, and do they start from scratch tomorrow?

I dont know the exact rules, cutoff points etc....but i doubt if they play tommorow it will be from 0/0,,,,it will be from where the game left off....like india vs england 1999 wc final match of group stages....

 

[AdamM97]

He has a unique action, people think his yorkers make him difficult but the thing is that because of his action he gets some nasty bounce from good length that makes him deceptive
remember umer akmal of all people smashing him clt20 for lahore vs Mumbai

Don’t underestimate the beast

 

[GLORY OF '92]

These are perfect NZ conditions. Get to 240 and get Rohit and Kohli out. Tough to do but possible

 

[jnaveen1980]

He has a unique action, people think his yorkers make him difficult but the thing is that because of his action he gets some nasty bounce from good length that makes him deceptive
remember umer akmal of all people smashing him clt20 for lahore vs Mumbai

He was a skinny kid back then. Now has worked out and has great core strength.

 

[rhony]

Great new ball bowling, spin bowling and slow bowling by Indians. Truly one of the best bowling lineup. Fielding let India down a bit in this game so far.

 

[jnaveen1980]

These are perfect NZ conditions. Get to 240 and get Rohit and Kohli out. Tough to do but possible

Kohli and Rohit are needed only for gigantic chases. For small totals pretty much every other player has the ability to do.

 

[rhony]

I dont know the exact rules, cutoff points etc....but i doubt if they play tommorow it will be from 0/0,,,,it will be from where the game left off....like india vs england 1999 wc final match of group stages....

It will continue from today. If it rains out tomorrow as well, I dia will go to the final as they had more points in the group

 

[MRSN]

If it keeps raining for one more hour it will help NZ immensely

 

[cricketfan11]

So the rules seem to be....
They will try to finish the game today even if India gets 20 overs to bat, in which case the target is 148
Otherwise the game will be continued tomorrow from where it ended today.

 

[jnaveen1980]

148 in 20 overs is unfair on a rained in a wet ground. Ball won't travel.

 

[cricketfan11]

If it keeps raining for one more hour it will help NZ immensely

How will it help?
The shorter the duration the more the chasing side is boosted.
Rohit Sharma will definitely prefer if this is changed to a T2o style contest.

 

[rhony]

148 in 20 overs is unfair on a rained in a wet ground. Ball won't travel.

Boult will only bowl 4 overs. 148 is nothing in 20 overs

 

[jagatk]

If it keeps raining for one more hour it will help NZ immensely

Why? The outfield will take a pounding, you can say bye bye to any spin.

 

[Jeetlodil]

NZ will fancy bowling in these conditions, whatever the target. If India go through on some luck, thoroughly deserved

 

[jnaveen1980]

Boult will only bowl 4 overs. 148 is nothing in 20 overs

Rohit will take time, Rahul will take time. That is how their ODI game has been in this world up. How can they suddenly switch to T20 mode. IT could prove to be risky.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

So the rules seem to be....
They will try to finish the game today even if India gets 20 overs to bat, in which case the target is 148
Otherwise the game will be continued tomorrow from where it ended today.

Whaaa....i hope its not a shortened 148 in 20 shootout thats unfair to our efforts in the first half....i hope we come back tommorow...if need be.....*&^%# the rain....go away...

 

[cricketfan11]

Why? The outfield will take a pounding, you can say bye bye to any spin.

I think in this WC the ball did spin a few times when there was a wet outfield, the ball can grip on surface
Might also cause uneven bounce or might keep low.
But this is countered by bowlers finding it difficult to grip a wet ball or generally a wet outfield making it hard to field etc

Regardless , 140 odd in 20 overs will not be a problem for India

 

[jnaveen1980]

At no point NZ made 148 in 20 overs. They are 211 in 46 overs. Which means 63 in 26 overs? Seriously? This is ridiculous. Their last 5 wickets are not worth many runs.

 

[Mueez]

Boult will only bowl 4 overs. 148 is nothing in 20 overs

This is unfair for India...

 

[AdamM97]

Grandpa Dhoni will make sure India gets 125 in 20 overs.

 

[Tapeballcricket]

Atleast no one can critisize if India are through with 20 overs play, or two rained off days. They have really showed what a joke this NZ club level team is and the fact that it would NEVER have beaten India in a non rained off game, whether batting first or second.

And Did I mention the rained off group game?

 

[husmukh]

Meanwhile Ravi Shastri looks like he's not refused too many 2nd helpings of vada pao, poona misal or pitla baath ....or even yorkshire pudding and warwick sauce in recent times....

pune pithla bhaat

 

[jnaveen1980]

At most 20 overs should have a target like 120. 148 is actually quiet a decent target in T20. Defendable.

 

[cricketfan11]

At no point NZ made 148 in 20 overs. They are 211 in 46 overs. Which means 63 in 26 overs? Seriously? This is ridiculous. Their last 5 wickets are not worth many runs.

Yes, the side chasing has to accelerate, you can it is unfair but they have the benefit of not having to plan for 50 overs.
The batsmen can take risks more freely and the wicket does not have as high a price.
Plus knowing how Rohit Sharma and Kohli like to go after the bowling on these small grounds it should not be a problem.

If the match is reduced I would open with left arm spin alongside Boult.

 

[Mp812]

pune pithla bhaat

kane mama vada pav or ruia ka misal pav

 

[rhony]

This is unfair for India...

They scored 50 in the last 5. The pitch has eased with a bit of rain. India is coming off IPL and the same to tuk tuk Rahul and co can score fast. 148 on a wet pith is easier than 240 on a dry pitch

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

kane mama vada pav or ruia ka misal pav

Kunj vihari's vada pav with pistachio lassi's ....outside thane station....tabahi hai...

 

[MRSN]

At most 20 overs should have a target like 120. 148 is actually quiet a decent target in T20. Defendable.

148 on this pitch will be tough

 

[Jeetlodil]

India will have to be ahead of DLS all the time. Key is to not lose too many wickets early

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

At most 20 overs should have a target like 120. 148 is actually quiet a decent target in T20. Defendable.

if that happens...it gives me the heebie jeebies....it will be difficult...semis and all....NZ aint pushovers...at least inthat situation....bolt, fergie santner et all will be a handful

 

[rhony]

Tbh, NZ had a lot of luck already. Overcast conditions, won the toss, couple of drops, couple of umpire calls. Lol they've been given an olive branch all throughout and India still dominated them so far

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes, the side chasing has to accelerate, you can it is unfair but they have the benefit of not having to plan for 50 overs.
The batsmen can take risks more freely and the wicket does not have as high a price.
Plus knowing how Rohit Sharma and Kohli like to go after the bowling on these small grounds it should not be a problem.

If the match is reduced I would open with left arm spin alongside Boult.

No team will go at 8 an over in the first 20 except may be England on a dry flat pitch. Not this pitch.

 

[DeadBall]

We need to get out there and finish our innings..

D/L will kill us.

Actually if you don't bat and it's a 46 over chase, DLS will give you 26 extra runs.

 

[MRSN]

NZ need rain to stay for 2 hours more. 237 in 46 they will take from 170 in 42 overs position.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You cannot come swinging your bat on a pitch like this that too against guys like Boult.

 

[MRSN]

Actually if you don't bat and it's a 46 over chase, DLS will give you 26 extra runs.

Exactly

 

[marlonbrowndo]

DLS will favour NZ here

 

[cricketfan11]

This may be too early to predict but considering the rain affects the match for say another hour or two- it will take time to take covers off, inspect and reinstate the game.
I also don't think they will want the game to go much beyond 8 or 9 pm ....so there is a chance this will be a 20 over chase... or thereabouts..

 

[jnaveen1980]

It will be a farce if NZ flukes their way into the final lol. That might just happen. 211 in 46 overs they were literally crawling with 27 overs worth of dot balls.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Hope the match gets completely washed out.

 

[volcyz]

NZ played like bunch of cowards