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India vs New Zealand | Semi Final 1, World Cup | Old Trafford | 9th Jul, 2019 | Pre Match Discussion

Which side will win the 1st semi-final of the World Cup between India and New Zealand?


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Conditions should be near perfect for swing bowling, with a lot of cloud and rain around. Temp wont reach above 18c all day. NZ will never get a better chance of having home conditions in England , in Manchester.

Batting first has been the way but NZ wont mind bowling first at 10.30 am.
 
rain forecast tomorrow....so NZ have bright chances of winning this game
 
Conditions should be near perfect for swing bowling, with a lot of cloud and rain around. Temp wont reach above 18c all day. NZ will never get a better chance of having home conditions in England , in Manchester.

Batting first has been the way but NZ wont mind bowling first at 10.30 am.


If NZ won’t mind bowling first, there’s no need to toss. Indian openers can pad up directly LOL
 
If NZ won’t mind bowling first, there’s no need to toss. Indian openers can pad up directly LOL

NZ would most likely prefer to bat but if they lose the toss they can still win the match because of what I have stated.

50 overs may be played or this match could be played over two full days, the weather in Manchester is very unpredictable when there is rain around.
 
Who's playing in the XI tomorrow for India? I don't care if it is a good headache or a bad one to have, but I don't like it.
 
NZ would most likely prefer to bat but if they lose the toss they can still win the match because of what I have stated.

50 overs may be played or this match could be played over two full days, the weather in Manchester is very unpredictable when there is rain around.

You are making predictions of India losing since start of the world cup.

India topped the table.

But don't worry, law of average will certainly make one prediction correct.
 
Dhoni`s iffy form of late and the thought that tomorrow could well be his last international match is giving me butterflies in the stomach. I don't know how I'll be able to sleep. Ever since he has quit captaincy, I never thought I'll ever go through such emotions again for the Indian team. I'm getting those spring of 2011 feelings again. Although MS did captain five more ICC tournaments afterwards, but even those events didn't quite make me nervous as much. But again, I suppose it has everything to do with this being the last time that I'm watching him play at the highest level.

Not easy for me!
 
Just voted New Zealand for the counter-jinx. Also I suddenly remembered Chris Cairns innings in one of the Champions Trophy finals. It was one of the most disappointing result for me. Similar to this WC, we were beating teams like an ATG Australia black and blue and suddenly that freakish innings happened.
 
It took until the final overs of the final group game but eventually confirmation came through that it would be India and New Zealand facing off in the first World Cup semi-final.

This will be the very first meeting between the sides in a knockout game at the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup.

The game features two of the world’s leading batsmen captaining their sides in Virat Kohli and Kane Williamson, as well as a pair of strike bowlers at the top of their game in Jasprit Bumrah and Trent Boult.

So as the teams bid for a place in Sunday’s final at Lord’s, here are some of the key talking points:

Kane v Kohli

For sheer consistency, there are few who can rival the two skippers, Virat Kohli and Kane Williamson.

The pair have been going up against one another for more than a decade, going all the way back to their team at Under-19 level.

Back in 2008, they captained their respective sides at the Under-19 World Cup, also at the semi-final stage.

That day it was India who emerged on top, with Kohli – then more of an all-rounder – dismissing Williamson who was opening the batting.

They have since gone onto become two of the most prolific run-getters in international cricket, and the backbone of their batting line-ups, combining for 99 international centuries. Could the semi-final be the occasion to make it to a hundred hundreds?

So far neither has quite produced at their best in a World Cup semi-final or final, Kohli’s 35 in the 2011 final the best either has managed across three combined semi-finals and two finals.

However, interestingly both admitted before the game that it is not Kohli, but teammate Rohit Sharma, who is currently the world’s leading ODI batsmen. The hope for New Zealand is that the combination of Sharma and Kohli does not outweigh Williamson’s contribution.

Five bowlers or six

In each of their last two matches – victories over Bangladesh and Sri Lanka – India have played five specialist bowlers who have all bowled their ten overs.

With a trio of wicket-keepers in the batting line-up, Kohli has been more reliant on his front-line bowlers to complete their full complement.

This combination has been possible because of Hardik Pandya’s development as a bowler, now becoming a very reliable option with his seam attack.

Ravindra Jadeja’s all-round abilities offer an alternative solution, were India to choose to bring in an extra all-rounder as a sixth bowling option.

The left-arm spinner did a good job in the win over Sri Lanka as part of a five-man attack, but his batting means that he could theoretically slot in at No.7 if India wanted to keep a sixth bowling option in reserve.

Batting coach Sanjay Bangar refused to commit one way or the other after the win over Sri Lanka last weekend to round out the group stage, but it is a choice which will have a large bearing on how the semi-final plays out.

The chase is on

One quick peak at the stats and it appears an obvious decision for the captain that wins the toss on Tuesday.

Five games of this World Cup have taken place at Old Trafford and five times the team that have batted first have gone on to win.

But first glances can often be deceiving, and dig a little deeper and it is clear that the Manchester surface is certainly true.

Chasing teams have come almighty close in what have been some high-scoring games in England’s north west.

Carlos Brathwaite was just a metre short of smashing the match-winning six that would have got the West Indies over the line in reply against the Black Caps.

And Alex Carey and David Warner just last weekend ensured Australia came within sight of South Africa’s impressive total of 325.

Should conditions look like they might offer something to the bowlers early on, neither captain should ignore the option of bowling first, safe in the knowledge that these Old Trafford decks have stood the test of time.

Battle of the B's

Jasprit Bumrah and Trent Boult are two of the premier white-ball bowlers in world cricket.

Both carry the chief attacking threat for their side with ball in hand and both have the versatility required to influence proceedings in all three powerplays.

Between them they have taken 32 wickets at this World Cup, Bumrah has 17 and Boult has 15, but just as impressive is how economical they are.

Both are going at under five an over and sit in the top ten for this World Cup in terms of economy rate.

But despite their versatility, they are masters of slightly different arts.

Boult has made his name as a new-ball bowler, indeed in between the last two World Cups no one took more wickets in the first powerplay than the Kiwi left-armer.

While Bumrah is the death specialist, sauntering to the crease and yet then producing devastating yorkers that former Kiwi skipper Daniel Vettori described as ‘nigh-on unplayable’ earlier this week.

Lockie Ferguson is back fit for New Zealand and Mohammed Shami had some real joy against the Black Caps earlier this year, but make no mistake about it - Boult v Bumrah is the marquee match-up.

Battling batters

Four years ago Martin Guptill was the top run-scorer at the World Cup, firing the Black Caps to within touching distance of their first-ever title.

But in 2019, the opener has struggled to find his best form after an impressive half-century in their tournament opener.

Alongside him at the top of the order Colin Munro and then Henry Nicholls are still waiting for big knocks while Ross Taylor is averaging 37 but has only two half-centuries to his name so far.

Kane Williamson’s brilliance is pretty well-established at this point, but if the Black Caps are to post a serious score and pass 300 for the first time this World Cup – then the skipper is going to need some help.

Tom Latham showed signs his best form was returning in Durham and all-rounders Colin de Grandhomme and Jimmy Neesham have both played crucial innings already this tournament.
 
I have a feeling NZ will come hard at us this time. Might see another AUS v NZ final
 
You are making predictions of India losing since start of the world cup.

India topped the table.

But don't worry, law of average will certainly make one prediction correct.

Read again, it wasnt a prediction. Im only giving information regarding conditions and how they may be helpful for the Kiwis.

India are strong favourites and losing to NZ tommrow would be a disaster for their fans inc you.
 
Don't write of New Zealand.

Latham had a bat and Neesham, De Grandhomme has had bat's too. The opening pair is the problem and Guptill has got out to some bizarre shots.

Their bowling is also good with Boult and Ferguson.

I believe Rohit peaked too early.
 
Read again, it wasnt a prediction. Im only giving information regarding conditions and how they may be helpful for the Kiwis.

India are strong favourites and losing to NZ tommrow would be a disaster for their fans inc you.
Nothing’s a disaster. Its just a game. Even you guys pummeled us in 2017 CT finals.
 
if there is a delayed start (say 3 hours), will they curtail overs or will they start with a 50 over game on the assumption that play will extend into the reserve day?
 
India vs Aus would be ideal. Both are top teams and it could go either way.

If England beat Aus, the world will be uneasy. No one wants them to win a world championship or we'll never hear the end of it.

After India, I would rather that England or NZ win the WC. Aussies have won it too many times, need something new.
 
if there is a delayed start (say 3 hours), will they curtail overs or will they start with a 50 over game on the assumption that play will extend into the reserve day?

Reserve day will only come into play if the minimum number of overs cannot be played.
 
India will win this one in my opinion. They have the bowling attack to take advantage of cloudy conditions. They also have more batters in form than NZ. Don’t know how NZ will turn around such poor from in a semi. Hoping for a close game, but don’t see it being a close game.

India take this one for me. But I really hope NZ win.
 
Good luck to both india and New Zealand in tomorrows semi final!!

Lets hope both teams play to their full potential and we get a cracking game!

May the best team win!

And hopefully, the weather doesn't spoil the match!
 
except the thing is that Kohli chose to bat in that game bc he wanted to test the waters in overcast conditions. be it a semi-final he will never do such things.
 
Conditions should be near perfect for swing bowling, with a lot of cloud and rain around. Temp wont reach above 18c all day. NZ will never get a better chance of having home conditions in England , in Manchester.

Batting first has been the way but NZ wont mind bowling first at 10.30 am.

NZ conditions these days are flat pitches
 
It will be really unfair if india don’t win tomorrow but it’s fine in cricket usually the better team wins. NZ got lucky with getting into the semis and will rightfully be pummeled by India 🇮🇳
 
It will be really unfair if india don’t win tomorrow but it’s fine in cricket usually the better team wins. NZ got lucky with getting into the semis and will rightfully be pummeled by India ����

How is it going to be unfair? NZ is not a minnow. I expect Australia vs NZ in the final.
 
Don't write of New Zealand.

Latham had a bat and Neesham, De Grandhomme has had bat's too. The opening pair is the problem and Guptill has got out to some bizarre shots.

Their bowling is also good with Boult and Ferguson.

I believe Rohit peaked too early.

His peak is still going on. Scored a hundred in last game. Only two games left and his peak may last for these two games.
 
GUPTILL against India in 2019

bowled Mohammed Shami 5 1 ODI v India Napier 23 Jan 2019 ODI # 4082
caught YS Chahal B Kumar 15 2 ODI v India Mount Maunganui 26 Jan 2019 ODI # 4085
caught KD Karthik B Kumar 13 1 ODI v India Mount Maunganui 28 Jan 2019 ODI # 4088
caught HH Pandya B Kumar 14 2 ODI v India Hamilton 31 Jan 2019 ODI # 4091
 
Nz to win with the swing boult and southee will get followed by pace and bounce of Ferguson. On swing conditions even colin de grandhomme can be dangerous.
 
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