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India vs West Indies | 1st Test | Ahmedabad | October 2-6 | Match Discussion

AZulfi said:
Sai Sudarshan maybe talented but he struggled in tests in England as well.

What makes selectors think that Tilak Verma cannot be successful in tests? He is not a hack. Has a good all round game. I would have given him a chance.
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India will go through the process.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
Ravi jadeja -100!
Go ya Kathiawadi Rajput swordsman!...

Must say in 2025 - tests - his batting has gone up several notches

:salute
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I think it's been said before but at home, Jadeja is a cheat code of a player.

Over the last 5 years, he has a batting average of 40 and bowling average of 20. Throw in the fielding and we're essentially playing two and half cricketers. It's tough for oppositions to line up 11 vs 12.5.

Abroad he more or less has become a high quality lower order batter who can turn his arm over. Batting average of 49. Bowling average of 41.
 
harshjoshi87 said:
Jurel should be tried at no. 3 instead of useless Sai Sudarshan.

Jurel also scored a match winning 90* in the 4th innings vs England last year at Dharamshala.
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Number 3 is a tough position to bat at. He is better suited at current position
 
Josh said:
Number 3 is a tough position to bat at. He is better suited at current position
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It's 3 or 6 though

1, 2 - Rahul, Jaiswal and 4,5 Gill, Pant are locked down. 6 won't always be available since we might choose to play the extra bowler like in this game.

I think he does seem to have the technique to bat at 3 especially at home. Away, we'll have to see.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think it's been said before but at home, Jadeja is a cheat code of a player.

Over the last 5 years, he has a batting average of 40 and bowling average of 20. Throw in the fielding and we're essentially playing two and half cricketers. It's tough for oppositions to line up 11 vs 12.5.

Abroad he more or less has become a high quality lower order batter who can turn his arm over. Batting average of 49. Bowling average of 41.
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Exactly as I said. At least 2 full players.
 
This is so bad that that I feel sorry for Windies. They should give up test cricket and focus t20.
 
RehanG said:
This is so bad that that I feel sorry for Windies. They should give up test cricket and focus t20.
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More the case that Test Cricket needs tiers. All teams outside top-5 would suffer the same fate. West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afganistan and Pakistan have no business playing top sides in Test Cricket. Will always lead to such lopsided phainta.
 
Hikaru said:
More the case that Test Cricket needs tiers. All teams outside top-5 would suffer the same fate. West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afganistan and Pakistan have no business playing top sides in Test Cricket. Will always lead to such lopsided phainta.
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Then how would they improve? There should be at-least two test match series with top teams every two years.
 
DRsohail said:
Then how would they improve? There should be at-least two test match series with top teams every two years.
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I know, that's why these things are difficult to implement. When you focus on the quality of the contest, then it does have its side-effects. But I honestly hate no-contests like this. It's hard to take records seriously when this becomes a norm.
 
India have done them a kindness by declaring and bowling again.

Finish this match in 3 days and next match in 2 days and let them rest and prepare for Bangladesh ODIs.

For West Indies cricket , automatic qualification for 2027 World Cup is more important than meaningless Test cricket.
 
DRsohail said:
Then how would they improve? There should be at-least two test match series with top teams every two years.
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Playing top teams doesnt make you improve.

How much have Bangladesh, West Indies improved despite playing so much?

Even Pakistan how much as it declined while playing test cricket.

You gain nothing from one sided embassing losses. But two division scenario will allow players to at least build some confidence playing teams at equal stature and then give them the chance to move up.

But promotion/relegation is necessary. One of the sticking points with two tier is that big 3 want to be excluded from relegation. If that's the way the two tier is going to be then it's pointless.
 
This is a good pitch for Test cricket. But sad, the quality of opposition has been simply awful.
 
West Indies' last five Tests vs India in India
Kolkata, 2013: Lost by innings & 51 runs
Mumbai WS, 2013: Lost by innings & 126 runs
Rajkot, 2018: Lost by innings & 272 runs
Hyderabad, 2018: Lost by 10 wickets
Ahmedabad, 2025: Lost by innings & 140 runs

Look at win margins for india. Absolutely dominated :kp
 
Nikhil_cric said:
BCCI should do West Indies a favour and not invite them to India for Test cricket for a long time.
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Why ?
Aus and sa Eng all play Wes indies too

And stat pad

Players need this type of series to be ready for big tests.

South Africa is dead when they tour India now.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Doesn't benefit West Indies cricket at all
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Don’t care. The just need to get better

That’s their problem.

They won a test in Australia

Also they are missing shamari jospeh
And alzarri. Maybe next game will be a better fight with those 2 playing.

If they don’t play big teams they won’t learn

Did India stop touring West Indies back in 80s and 90s when we used to get butchered ?
No
 
kron said:
Don’t care. The just need to get better

That’s their problem.

They won a test in Australia

Also they are missing shamari jospeh
And alzarri. Maybe next game will be a better fight with those 2 playing.

If they don’t play big teams they won’t learn

Did India stop touring West Indies back in 80s and 90s when we used to get butchered ?
No
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I don't think India got butchered like this did they?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I don't think India got butchered like this did they?
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We got butchered at home lmao moreso than away weirdly enough.

To this level of thrashing I guess maybe sometimes? Not often. I mean we did compete somewhat in those days.

regardless we still need to play these teams otherwise they won’t learn. Plus shamari josheph dint play so it will be interesting next game I suppose.
 
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