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I have a very strong feeling before the end of Winter there will be another round.

If anyone has noticed the pattern, Modi has been pushing the envelope, slight escalation in each step, testing the limits of Pakistan army, the global reaction and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Pakistan.

Rahul Gandhi wouldn’t stop reminding PM Modi how it was his grand mother Indira Gandhi who split Pakistan in two halves in 1971 and that there’s nothing Modi has done to outdo her. Deep down this bothers Modi. He’s taken the economy to another level but he hasn’t delivered a blow to Pakistan like Indira Gandhi did.

Modi wants to go down as comfortably the greatest PM in Indian history. He will have the economic numbers to back him on that claim but he wants to deliver a decisive blow to Pakistan before he calls it a day.


 
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I agree. Modi’s reputation is in tatters right now and the only way to heal his wounded pride is an all out attack to restore his own pride and dignity as well as India’s.

Otherwise he’ll continue to be bullied by world leaders for an awful military performance in the Summer of 2025 as 4th largest economy of the world.
 
I have a very strong feeling before the end of Winter there will be another round.

If anyone has noticed the pattern, Modi has been pushing the envelope, slight escalation in each step, testing the limits of Pakistan army, the global reaction and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Pakistan.

Rahul Gandhi wouldn’t stop reminding PM Modi how it was his grand mother Indira Gandhi who split Pakistan in two halves in 1971 and that there’s nothing Modi has done to outdo her. Deep down this bothers Modi. He’s taken the economy to another level but he hasn’t delivered a blow to Pakistan like Indira Gandhi did.

Modi wants to go down as comfortably the greatest PM in Indian history. He will have the economic numbers to back him on that claim but he wants to deliver a decisive blow to Pakistan before he calls it a day.


Responding to a terrorist attack is one thing (despite a lack of concrete evidence of Pakistani military establishment directly responsible), but to provoke a war is against International Law. The only reason a nation can do that is either for self-defence or where the UN Security Council allows it and I doubt it will since China will veto any such move even if the US, UK, France and Russia vote in favour (again highly doubtful). India would become the Pariah of the world just like Russia and could face sanctions.
 
I have a very strong feeling before the end of Winter there will be another round.

If anyone has noticed the pattern, Modi has been pushing the envelope, slight escalation in each step, testing the limits of Pakistan army, the global reaction and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Pakistan.

Rahul Gandhi wouldn’t stop reminding PM Modi how it was his grand mother Indira Gandhi who split Pakistan in two halves in 1971 and that there’s nothing Modi has done to outdo her. Deep down this bothers Modi. He’s taken the economy to another level but he hasn’t delivered a blow to Pakistan like Indira Gandhi did.

Modi wants to go down as comfortably the greatest PM in Indian history. He will have the economic numbers to back him on that claim but he wants to deliver a decisive blow to Pakistan before he calls it a day.

I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses,
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.
 
I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses a.k.a dispatching terrorists.
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.

There I fixed it for you.
 
Original Message by @LordJames

I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses,
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.

"Fixed" Message by @RexRex

I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses a.k.a dispatching terrorists.
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.
The agreed upon consensus between the two of us is Line number 2.

Thanks for agreeing.
 
notice how this megalomaniac Modi and rest of Indian govt turned the entire Pahalgam incident into an excuse for their power trip because majority of their stupid speeches after this skirmish with Pak have been non stop chest beating.

Makes the whole Pahalgam issue even more dubious regarding Pak involvement.

They’ve been brainwashing the Indian people for years with anti Muslim propaganda such as movies, talk shows, editing textbooks and probably even more subliminal messages in day to day life to normalize a) animosity between Muslims and Hindus in India and then progressing to normalizing violence against Pakistanis which modi and his goon squad achieved in May.

Now as op said they will try to up the ante.

But this time if there are casualties in India, do not cry. You guys have been poking the tiger for a while now, got a slap on the wrist, now you will get a boot to the behind.
 
But this time if there are casualties in India, do not cry. You guys have been poking the tiger for a while now, got a slap on the wrist, now you will get a boot to the behind.
Tigers hunt and manage 15 kgs of meat everyday for their survival. They don't tie a begging bowl around their neck and beg hyenas for meat.​
 
Tigers hunt and manage 15 kgs of meat everyday for their survival. They don't tie a begging bowl around their neck and beg hyenas for meat.​
We all believe in God so lets pray that we are given long lives to witness the future and do the right thing on the day when you witness it.​
 
But this time if there are casualties in India, do not cry. You guys have been poking the tiger for a while now, got a slap on the wrist, now you will get a boot to the behind.

This is what real tigers do .... they drill holes big enough to be visible from satellites in space: :cool: :cigar

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The fact that these buffoons desperately want a round 2 because they allegedly disturbed some furniture on our side by helping remodel a roof and disturb some asphalt on a runway (allegedly) shows how desperate and delusion extremist Hindus have become.

If you’re gonna war monger, be man enough to go to the front lines instead of sending a delicate flower like Shivangi to do your dirty work. Have some shame hiding behind women while you flaunt and brag on a forum from the comfort of your home thousands of miles away from Pak or India.

Bunch of beghairat

Once again, none of this is for the victims of Pehelgam, just for bruised egos of theirs 🤡
 
Another surrender of Pakistan is waiting if there is any chance of any war in near future. :kp
 

Lmao, this guy’s nuclear bluff just got BrahMos’d into his DNA. The very fact that he needs to strut his nuclear weapons shows his nuke umbrella is as useless as his new rank. Clown Marshal.

:kp
 
Using what he termed a 'crude analogy', the Field Marshal further said, "India is shining Mercedes coming on a highway like Ferrari, but we are a dump truck full of gravel. If the truck hits the car, who is going to be the loser?" he said.

Any body wants his or her own/family/country future to be a good upgrade than past.does he wants pak to stay as load of garbage for ever with out caring for its own citizens. He is not even caring about people , country or development. .No wonder pak is regressing in all areas.
 
I agree. Modi’s reputation is in tatters right now and the only way to heal his wounded pride is an all out attack to restore his own pride and dignity as well as India’s.

Otherwise he’ll continue to be bullied by world leaders for an awful military performance in the Summer of 2025 as 4th largest economy of the world.
But it's mullah munir who is providing empty sound bites to the elite Abdul's in Tampa


We will nuke half the world
We will bomb Indian dams..but someone didn't tell him two dams are already built
We will attack from east loot their resources and then move west...bit confused on the direction here.
 

Lmao, this guy’s nuclear bluff just got BrahMos’d into his DNA. The very fact that he needs to strut his nuclear weapons shows his nuke umbrella is as useless as his new rank. Clown Marshal.

:kp
Very defeatist attitude...he knows he will be taken down...
 
I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses,
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.
Regarding point 2..we have had full scale wars in 65 and 71...65 was a stalemate where the aggressors got spanked and didn't achieve anything .71 hinduisms survived .cut the Islamic country in half...got 90k soldier captured and made their pants down all at the hands of a female PM @Suleiman ..since he thinks women are inferior...

So what makes you think Hinduism will not survive
 
India has been operating on a whole new level of confidence ever since Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman downed an F-16 with a Cold War–era MiG-21 Bison. A feat once thought impossible.

Not only that but he went further and drank their Tea. The audacity of that man changed the way Indians approached warfare in the 21st century. An air of invincibility now surrounds these Gabrus.
 
Using what he termed a 'crude analogy', the Field Marshal further said, "India is shining Mercedes coming on a highway like Ferrari, but we are a dump truck full of gravel. If the truck hits the car, who is going to be the loser?" he said.

Any body wants his or her own/family/country future to be a good upgrade than past.does he wants pak to stay as load of garbage for ever with out caring for its own citizens. He is not even caring about people , country or development. .No wonder pak is regressing in all areas.
Atleast he got the analogy right, a shiny Mercedes vs a Dumptruck indeed, hehe.
 
India has been operating on a whole new level of confidence ever since Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman downed an F-16 with a Cold War–era MiG-21 Bison. A feat once thought impossible.

Not only that but he went further and drank their Tea. The audacity of that man changed the way Indians approached warfare in the 21st century. An air of invincibility now surrounds these Gabrus.

Don't you mean operating on a complete different level of insecurity?

Indians are stinking out PP either their insecurity and it counties to amaze me
 
Modi the madman will plunge the region into chaos. He is willing to go to war to cover up his failed policies and keep his barefoot nutjob voters happy.

This is not the way to revive a dead economy.
 
I truly beleive that for the greater good of South Asia, Pakistan needs to accept its role as Bharat's sidekick since both the countries will never be equals at this rate.

You already do this with China, so why not Bharat? A far better option than wars. Let's make love with Bharat in the driving seat, while Pakistan enjoys the ride along with financial and water perks <3
 
Modi the madman will plunge the region into chaos. He is willing to go to war to cover up his failed policies and keep his barefoot nutjob voters happy.

This is not the way to revive a dead economy.
Your opinion of Modi will change in 25 years when the whole of South Asia will be a peaceful, prospering region driven by the legacy Modi and Xi left behind.

Gujarat riots have somehow misled Pakistanis into seeing Modi as some sort of anti-Muslim war-monger and an enemy of Pakistan. That's not the case.
 
Your opinion of Modi will change in 25 years when the whole of South Asia will be a peaceful, prospering region driven by the legacy Modi and Xi left behind.

Gujarat riots have somehow misled Pakistanis into seeing Modi as some sort of anti-Muslim war-monger and an enemy of Pakistan. That's not the case.
If Modi bows his head and comes under the wing of Xi Jingping then he can leave a legacy in the region for sure.

However, his attempts to dominate the region have resulted in failure and global humiliation.

At the moment India and their Taliban allies are holding the region behind with their backwardness. Ideally, we want a thriving Asia, similar to Europe or the Middle East and are happy to extend the hand of friendship to India to achieve this.
 
Indian army is treating Pakistan like that neighbour's kid who can be slapped around any time. No wonder Asim Munir giving nuclear threats from Amreeka.

:kp
 
I agree. Modi’s reputation is in tatters right now and the only way to heal his wounded pride is an all out attack to restore his own pride and dignity as well as India’s.

Otherwise he’ll continue to be bullied by world leaders for an awful military performance in the Summer of 2025 as 4th largest economy of the world.
Did you got that information from Samaa TV or this is another fake kheyali pulao news from Pakistan?

Read this and gain some knowledge. Dont speak if you know nothing:

PM Modi Most Popular Democratic Leader With 75% Approval Rating: Survey​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi has emerged as the world's most popular democratic leader with a 75% approval rating, according to a recent global survey conducted by US-based data analytics firm Morning Consult.

The survey, which reflects public sentiment collected between July 4 and 10, 2025, shows PM Modi well ahead of his global counterparts. South Korean President Lee Jae-myung followed with a 59% approval rating. Argentine President Javier Milei secured the third spot with 57%.

The survey uses a rolling seven-day average to assess opinions among adult populations in each country. It is part of Morning Consult's ongoing Global Leader Approval Rating Tracker, which regularly measures the popularity of various democratic leaders.

According to the report, only 18% of respondents disapproved of PM Modi's leadership, while 7% remained undecided or gave no opinion. PM Modi, who secured a third consecutive term in May 2024, continues to enjoy a dominant position in global rankings, reflecting both his domestic popularity and growing international recognition.


:shhh
 
If Modi bows his head and comes under the wing of Xi Jingping then he can leave a legacy in the region for sure.

However, his attempts to dominate the region have resulted in failure and global humiliation.

At the moment India and their Taliban allies are holding the region behind with their backwardness. Ideally, we want a thriving Asia, similar to Europe or the Middle East and are happy to extend the hand of friendship to India to achieve this.
Extremely narrow perspective.Taliban is only a Pakistan and Afghanistan problem, majority of the region isnt affected by them in any way, and are prospering.

I am trying to highlight a bigger picture here where China and Bharat actually join hands on global issues without Pakistan being a compulsive adversary to Bharat. It's sad platforms like SCO or ASEAN are reduced to a battleground between the two nations.

The actual threat South Asia faces is the mistrust between Bharat and China, the two dominant players. Nations like Pakistan and Bangladesh should actually be trying to bring the powerhouses together, rather than using one against the other.
 
If Modi bows his head and comes under the wing of Xi Jingping then he can leave a legacy in the region for sure.

However, his attempts to dominate the region have resulted in failure and global humiliation.

At the moment India and their Taliban allies are holding the region behind with their backwardness. Ideally, we want a thriving Asia, similar to Europe or the Middle East and are happy to extend the hand of friendship to India to achieve this.

Built-up anger is a real thing. Anyone who has experienced it knows that for some people and sometimes for entire nations, war isn’t just an option an uncontrollable explosive release of generations of pent-up frustration and injustice.

Pakistanis aren’t wrong when they point out that many Sanatanis carry a heightened level of anger. In some cases that energy manifests destructively like picking up a needless fight with a street dog, indulging in domestic violence or road rage etc. But the roots of that volatility run deep, fed by centuries of betrayals that have never truly been forgotten.

Modi is on track to secure a fourth term in 2029 an unprecedented feat in India’s democratic history. No leader in modern India has ever commanded such an unshakable electoral mandate. And tellingly, the only significant dip in his support wasn’t when Pagalgam happened but when the ceasefire came too soon for the public’s liking. Many wanted the confrontation to continue until the international maps had to be redrawn.

At this point, Modi carries more than political authority he carries the burden of expectation. Most Indians see a future showdown with China as inevitable and Sanatanis will not rally behind any leadership that fails to channel their accumulated rage into decisive action, starting with Pakistan and then on to China.

Indians are refusing to bow down to Americans, what is China then?
 
Extremely narrow perspective.Taliban is only a Pakistan and Afghanistan problem, majority of the region isnt affected by them in any way, and are prospering.

I am trying to highlight a bigger picture here where China and Bharat actually join hands on global issues without Pakistan being a compulsive adversary to Bharat. It's sad platforms like SCO or ASEAN are reduced to a battleground between the two nations.

The actual threat South Asia faces is the mistrust between Bharat and China, the two dominant players. Nations like Pakistan and Bangladesh should actually be trying to bring the powerhouses together, rather than using one against the other.
For the sake of peace and prosperity in the region if India gives up it's quest for dominance in the region then powerhouses will come together naturally.

We in Pakistan have a lot to learn and gain from positive relations with India, and young Indian kids also deserve to sleep peacefully without the fear of Bunyan-e-marsos or that Chinese will make chow mein from them.

I personally would have no issue with India leading the way. Giving our public access to your education institutions and your private sector access to an untapped Pakistani market will benefit both parties, and India has better infrastructure than Pakistan by far.

However the large numbers of mouths to feed across South Asia make this dream of cooperation, just a fantasy.
 
For the sake of peace and prosperity in the region if India gives up it's quest for dominance in the region then powerhouses will come together naturally.

We in Pakistan have a lot to learn and gain from positive relations with India, and young Indian kids also deserve to sleep peacefully without the fear of Bunyan-e-marsos or that Chinese will make chow mein from them.

I personally would have no issue with India leading the way. Giving our public access to your education institutions and your private sector access to an untapped Pakistani market will benefit both parties, and India has better infrastructure than Pakistan by far.

However the large numbers of mouths to feed across South Asia make this dream of cooperation, just a fantasy.
A few digs aside, I appreciate the general message brother.
 
No offence but Hindus/Indians are not fighters, combat is not their forte. India should wake up and realise such ideas only result in their humiliation.

Hopefully one day if there some peaceful Hindus in India, they will take over.
 
No offence but Hindus/Indians are not fighters, combat is not their forte. India should wake up and realise such ideas only result in their humiliation.

Hopefully one day if there some peaceful Hindus in India, they will take over.
Thats why Hindus/Indians split your country into 2 in 1971 war just within 3 days.
 
@KingKhanWC on 6th May evening while debating with me here - 'When will India strike Pakistan? Its been 3 weeks since Pahalgam. Hindu veggie muscles has no guts'

KingKhan bhai on 7th evening after Op Sindoor - 'How can you attack another nuclear state like that?'

:kp
 
I wrote these lines multiple times before the world saw the response and I will say it again:
  1. Any Indian aggression will trigger irregular, asymmetric, and disproportionate responses,
  2. In a full-scale war between India and Pakistan, Hinduism itself may not survive.
Here comes the same old gawaar logic. India and Pakistan fought 4 full fledged wars. The results being Pakistan lost all 4 and Hinduism is flourishing in India.

Worry about your own religion. Open your eyes and see what is going around the world.
 
Thats why Hindus/Indians split your country into 2 in 1971 war just within 3 days.

No your country was split in 2, and now 3. :sachin

Make Veggie curries, dance to silly songs, play stick and ball, worhsip all your Gods, its fine but combat isnt your thing.
 
No your country was split in 2, and now 3. :sachin

Make Veggie curries, dance to silly songs, play stick and ball, worhsip all your Gods, its fine but combat isnt your thing.

Reply of someone when no counter back. 🤡

When Indian partition happen, muslims like your forfathers were also part of the same country. They simply didnt wanted to stay with Hindus and begged Britishers for a separate country. Not sure why you are taking credit for it. LOL.

However, religion can only take you so far and you guys started discriminating against east Bengalis. Indian army beat you guys in three days and gave independene to Bangladesh in 3 days. Have some shame.

Remember, it took 20 mins to bring down Babri Masjid as well. So never threaten.
 
No your country was split in 2, and now 3. :sachin

Make Veggie curries, dance to silly songs, play stick and ball, worhsip all your Gods, its fine but combat isnt your thing.


Brother, in your heyday you had Pakistani gabrus like your good self one actually thought twice about messing with.

Now it’s just the burger boys of Defence, Clifton and Bahria Town etc. The kind who’ll drop their rifles grab their passports and be sipping fantastic chai in Bradford before the first Bihari mazdoor finishes tying his lungi. :yk
 
Did you got that information from Samaa TV or this is another fake kheyali pulao news from Pakistan?

Read this and gain some knowledge. Dont speak if you know nothing:

PM Modi Most Popular Democratic Leader With 75% Approval Rating: Survey​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi has emerged as the world's most popular democratic leader with a 75% approval rating, according to a recent global survey conducted by US-based data analytics firm Morning Consult.

The survey, which reflects public sentiment collected between July 4 and 10, 2025, shows PM Modi well ahead of his global counterparts. South Korean President Lee Jae-myung followed with a 59% approval rating. Argentine President Javier Milei secured the third spot with 57%.

The survey uses a rolling seven-day average to assess opinions among adult populations in each country. It is part of Morning Consult's ongoing Global Leader Approval Rating Tracker, which regularly measures the popularity of various democratic leaders.

According to the report, only 18% of respondents disapproved of PM Modi's leadership, while 7% remained undecided or gave no opinion. PM Modi, who secured a third consecutive term in May 2024, continues to enjoy a dominant position in global rankings, reflecting both his domestic popularity and growing international recognition.


:shhh
This is unsurprising, we already suspected that the majority of India has fallen to Rightwing RSS Extremism.
It is now a terror state
 
War must always be the last option. I urge both nations to show restraint and not let emotions get the better of them.


It's a first option for a country which doesn't have much else to offer hope to it's population. This has always been the case for political regimes down the centuries.
 
It's a first option for a country which doesn't have much else to offer hope to it's population. This has always been the case for political regimes down the centuries.

Our fight is with your dictatorship and not with your people. Once Pro Peace democratic powers take control of Pakistan; there will be no need to go to war.
 
Declared by Immy69 from Bradford

:rabada2 :rp
Well your country attacked another sovereign country it also has a PM known as the butcher of Gujarat...
Then there are the cow vigilantes...

Bradford? No No I managed to moved out from there and now cover the Leicester region..
 
TBF the impression I get is not many even in Pakistan supports Asim Munir.

Is that right brothers? @DeadlyVenom @IMMY69 @Bewal Express
He has significant support on his India stance both internally and externally as a global peacemaker and visionary.

He overturned Modi's 12 years of efforts to isolate Pakistan by relegating India to Afghanistan, North Korea levels on the global stage within 3 months.
 
Well your country attacked another sovereign country it also has a PM known as the butcher of Gujarat...
Then there are the cow vigilantes...

Bradford? No No I managed to moved out from there and now cover the Leicester region..

You are only a sovereignty on paper. Pakistan has been under a military siege for half a century during which time two of your former PMs got murdered (one hanged to death and the other assasinated), one exiled and returned and another one is rotting in jail. You call this sovereignty?
 
He has significant support on his India stance both internally and externally as a global peacemaker and visionary.

He overturned Modi's 12 years of efforts to isolate Pakistan by relegating India to Afghanistan, North Korea levels on the global stage within 3 months.
Long live Asim Munir then. Both Indians and Pakistanis are happy

:thumbsup
 
The bravery of someone going into the heart of the so called free world and saying if India dares to build a dam then "phir 10 missile sey faarigh kar dengey" :ROFLMAO:
 
The bravery of someone going into the heart of the so called free world and saying if India dares to build a dam then "phir 10 missile sey faarigh kar dengey" :ROFLMAO:
He was addressing Pak community, so no bravery in it. Modi had said and threatened Pakistan even worse from all over the world - Madison Sq Gardens, Wembley, Sydney, Dubai stadium etc. I myself was in attendance on his Wembley address. What a speech that was

Example below

 
Reply of someone when no counter back. 🤡

When Indian partition happen, muslims like your forfathers were also part of the same country. They simply didnt wanted to stay with Hindus and begged Britishers for a separate country. Not sure why you are taking credit for it. LOL.

However, religion can only take you so far and you guys started discriminating against east Bengalis. Indian army beat you guys in three days and gave independene to Bangladesh in 3 days. Have some shame.

Remember, it took 20 mins to bring down Babri Masjid as well. So never threaten.

lol. I thought your army chief warned against war with Pak not with another mosque for Hindu extremists to climb up like monkeys?

You were just humiliated after launching a war and now you want another? lol Its not good warmongering esp since you now have been deported to India and may be at risk in any future war.
 
TBF the impression I get is not many even in Pakistan supports Asim Munir.

Is that right brothers? @DeadlyVenom @IMMY69 @Bewal Express
I always supported the PK army and I still support the poor Jawans that risk their lives. What I can't do is to support a murderous thug like Munir and thats the vast majority of PKs. If he has the balls he should take off his uniform and hold a free and fair election. I guarantee he wouldn't get 5% against a PTI flag pole. In the old days, idiots like me thought NS and AZ were the only problem but as the last 3 years have taught us, the real problem was right in front of us. This learning cant be unlearnt.
 
lol. I thought your army chief warned against war with Pak not with another mosque for Hindu extremists to climb up like monkeys?

You were just humiliated after launching a war and now you want another? lol Its not good warmongering esp since you now have been deported to India and may be at risk in any future war.
So I got deported to India and I myself not aware of it?

:rabada2
 
No offence but Hindus/Indians are not fighters, combat is not their forte. India should wake up and realise such ideas only result in their humiliation.

Hopefully one day if there some peaceful Hindus in India, they will take over.
This is a really poor and emotional way of looking at things. First of all, the Sikh/Punjabi mentality is that of a warrior, but aside from that we don’t like in a time of swords and shields. Modern warfare is very different, is multi-faceted from propaganda, cyber to high-tech weapons and many other domains. India is just as good at this as anyone else and better than most countries. They have a much bigger budget than us and can cause significant damage, but I also wouldn’t count Pakistan out. We are also capable of defending ourselves which our doctrine is based on.

In fact, I would argue that the US is supreme when it comes to a war like culture that no one on the planet can rival. If we if ignore the size of the US, their economy, military spending and tech and purely focus on their culture, the Americans from a young age are trained in firearms and guns is in their DNA. A country that places so much emphasis on firearms to the point of it being part of its bill of rights, is not going to be easily challenged. They also have the most experience at war since when have the Americans never been at war. They are always invading someone.
 
I always supported the PK army and I still support the poor Jawans that risk their lives. What I can't do is to support a murderous thug like Munir and thats the vast majority of PKs. If he has the balls he should take off his uniform and hold a free and fair election. I guarantee he wouldn't get 5% against a PTI flag pole. In the old days, idiots like me thought NS and AZ were the only problem but as the last 3 years have taught us, the real problem was right in front of us. This learning cant be unlearnt.

I hope your true leader Imran Khan comes out of jail soon and in good health. We are praying for his safety and hope democratic institutions in Pakistan are strengthened. The military thugs and corrupt political leaders have destroyed your nation.

I hope people in Pakistan will understand our fight is with Pro Terrorism dictatorship in Pakistan and not with its peace loving people.
 
Both Modi and Munir need "conflict" to stay in power. Munir and Junta have destroyed PKs institutions and Modi lost his majority and looks confused and has no idea which way to turn.
 
You are only a sovereignty on paper. Pakistan has been under a military siege for half a century during which time two of your former PMs got murdered (one hanged to death and the other assasinated), one exiled and returned and another one is rotting in jail. You call this sovereignty?
Unfortunate as it is, yes Pakistan remains a sovereign country under international laws.
If we were to throw these laws in the bin then other countries would start behaving like India & Isreal
 
Both Modi and Munir need "conflict" to stay in power. Munir and Junta have destroyed PKs institutions and Modi lost his majority and looks confused and has no idea which way to turn.
What is the role of your PM Shebaz Shariff? He should be the head of state, right?
 
Our fight is with your dictatorship and not with your people. Once Pro Peace democratic powers take control of Pakistan; there will be no need to go to war.
And yet I have seen India keyboard warriors having designs on the whole of a Pakistan. They want to incorporate Kashmir, Punjab and Sindh into India, make Baluchistan independent and offer Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to Afghanistan. I mean seriously what is up with that? They also complain about the map of Kashmir every time some organisation posts the actual map of the region showing Pakistani occupied Kashmir as part of Pakistan and Indian occupied Kashmir as part of India.

I mean say India gets a hold of Punjab, Kashmir and Sindh, what are you going to do? Ethnically cleanse the population? Where will the population go? If not, how are you going to deal with a population that hates your guts for colonising them?

Some crazy thinking across both sides of the border. Just accept reality, agree the split of Kashmir and that actually might change things where we don’t need wars and can have better relations.
 
Unfortunate as it is, yes Pakistan remains a sovereign country under international laws.
If we were to throw these laws in the bin then other countries would start behaving like India & Isreal

Forget about international law. It means nothing . Americans made all these institutions and break their own rules. But you were talking about sovereignty. Do you truly believe you live in a true sovereignty? You are an Imran supporter so I expect an honest answer:
 
This is a really poor and emotional way of looking at things. First of all, the Sikh/Punjabi mentality is that of a warrior, but aside from that we don’t like in a time of swords and shields. Modern warfare is very different, is multi-faceted from propaganda, cyber to high-tech weapons and many other domains. India is just as good at this as anyone else and better than most countries. They have a much bigger budget than us and can cause significant damage, but I also wouldn’t count Pakistan out. We are also capable of defending ourselves which our doctrine is based on.

In fact, I would argue that the US is supreme when it comes to a war like culture that no one on the planet can rival. If we if ignore the size of the US, their economy, military spending and tech and purely focus on their culture, the Americans from a young age are trained in firearms and guns is in their DNA. A country that places so much emphasis on firearms to the point of it being part of its bill of rights, is not going to be easily challenged. They also have the most experience at war since when have the Americans never been at war. They are always invading someone.

You dont understand modern warfare.

Modern warfare is mainly now about missiles. Reason why Iran was able to hammer Israel forcing them to a ceasefire. Israel is far far superiour to Iran in every way bar actual combat. Look at the IDF in Gaza, they are not combat fighters. The same goes for India. Obviously both have nukes, all is destroyed but in any ground combat situation, its not in their heritage to fight/combat. If you disagree, sure.
 
This is a really poor and emotional way of looking at things. First of all, the Sikh/Punjabi mentality is that of a warrior, but aside from that we don’t like in a time of swords and shields. Modern warfare is very different, is multi-faceted from propaganda, cyber to high-tech weapons and many other domains. India is just as good at this as anyone else and better than most countries. They have a much bigger budget than us and can cause significant damage, but I also wouldn’t count Pakistan out. We are also capable of defending ourselves which our doctrine is based on.

In fact, I would argue that the US is supreme when it comes to a war like culture that no one on the planet can rival. If we if ignore the size of the US, their economy, military spending and tech and purely focus on their culture, the Americans from a young age are trained in firearms and guns is in their DNA. A country that places so much emphasis on firearms to the point of it being part of its bill of rights, is not going to be easily challenged. They also have the most experience at war since when have the Americans never been at war. They are always invading someone.

I appreciate your sensible posting. You’re a great addition to the forum.

We are fond of Khan bhai’s passionate comments however. He speaks from the heart always but is a neqdil insan despite being occasionally hot headed. He can take it and can give it equally. One of the most easy going Pakistani posters to engage with. Despite countless heated debates, Sanatanis continue to happily engage with him.
 
You dont understand modern warfare.

Modern warfare is mainly now about missiles. Reason why Iran was able to hammer Israel forcing them to a ceasefire. Israel is far far superiour to Iran in every way bar actual combat. Look at the IDF in Gaza, they are not combat fighters. The same goes for India. Obviously both have nukes, all is destroyed but in any ground combat situation, its not in their heritage to fight/combat. If you disagree, sure.
If that’s how you think modern warfare works, be prepared to lose. Iran heavily invested in their missiles and look how that has turned out? Apart from some destruction in Tel Aviv, they failed. They had a lot of their military command blown up which didn’t involve missiles and the only missiles that actually landed were their hypersonics which they don’t have many of and which currently no one has an answer to. Israel on the hand hand managed to get air superiority because Iran never bothered with Air Defence or their Air Force.

Modern warfare is about many things including strategy and executing that to perfection. It is also about having plans for situations and scenarios and being prepared.

This has been a lesson for Pakistan. It needs to invest in hypersonics (both cruise and ballistics) as well as effective Air Defence that is integrated with early warning radar and satellites.
 
Forget about international law. It means nothing . Americans made all these institutions and break their own rules. But you were talking about sovereignty. Do you truly believe you live in a true sovereignty? You are an Imran supporter so I expect an honest answer:
I only care for the hard working, poor people of Pakistan;
as long as there are 200 million people living in Pakistan and the vast majority of which who want nothing to do with dynastic looters and the establishment..

The fight is on two fronts, one against the current rulers and the second one against outside influencers who may want to effect regime change which only leads to the killing of millions of innocent people, just like what happened in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc
 
If that’s how you think modern warfare works, be prepared to lose. Iran heavily invested in their missiles and look how that has turned out? Apart from some destruction in Tel Aviv, they failed. They had a lot of their military command blown up which didn’t involve missiles and the only missiles that actually landed were their hypersonics which they don’t have many of and which currently no one has an answer to. Israel on the hand hand managed to get air superiority because Iran never bothered with Air Defence or their Air Force.

Modern warfare is about many things including strategy and executing that to perfection. It is also about having plans for situations and scenarios and being prepared.

This has been a lesson for Pakistan. It needs to invest in hypersonics (both cruise and ballistics) as well as effective Air Defence that is integrated with early warning radar and satellites.

Lol no county in history has hit Israel as Iran did .

War objectives define victory or loss . Israel wanted regime change , it failed and its city’s mayors demaded an end . Iran is seen as victorious. This is the wrong thread so post on the relevant one next post if you want a response
 
Lol no county in history has hit Israel as Iran did .

War objectives define victory or loss . Israel wanted regime change , it failed and its city’s mayors demaded an end . Iran is seen as victorious. This is the wrong thread so post on the relevant one next post if you want a response
Fair point brother. This is the wrong thread to discuss this.
 
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