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Hours after the footage of a CRPF jawan who refused to react to heckling by a group of Kashmiri youth took social media by storm, another shocking video has emerged from Budgam in Jammu and Kashmir.

While the soldier in the first video has been collectively praised for showing admirable restraint in the face of adversity, the scene captured by the latter has sparked outrage among Kashmiris.

As PTI reported, the clip showed a youth "allegedly tied to an army jeep as a human shield against stone pelting". In no time it went viral on social media, with former chief minister Omar Abdullah condemning it as "shocking".

http://m.huffingtonpost.in/2017/04/...army-jeep-as-human-shield-against_a_22039543/

Shocking pics and it could very well just be the tip of the iceberg. Lets see how can anyone defend it?

Video in the link is also available where the Troops threaten others of being punished in similar way
 
Yes please clear the passage so that protestors can easily throw stones at the Jeep and injure the soldiers.
 
isnt the guy tweeting the CM of kashmir?
 
Emergence of Mass Media and Internet in the last decade has been the best thing to happen . It makes sure that none of the current atrocities of the Indian Army get wrapped under the carpet like they have got away in the past. India's real face must be exposed in every nook and corner of the world .
 
Shameful. It can only happen in India. Itni bari fauj (sena) and they come up with this idea...
 
Slog said:
isnt the guy tweeting the CM of kashmir?
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He is ex CM, currently Mehbooba Mufti and this is why Indians should be alarmed when an ex CM is speaking so strongly against Indian atrocities. Both Farooq and Omar Abdullah have spoken strongly against Indian tactics and that proves they are going into wrong direction and blaming Pakistan doesn't help them in ANY way.
 
santos11 said:
Yes please clear the passage so that protestors can easily throw stones at the Jeep and injure the soldiers.
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Yeah, maybe Western nations should adopt this too. Next time there is a riot in London, like we saw few years ago, they should grab innocent people and tie them to police horses and cars.
 
Waseem said:
He is ex CM, currently Mehbooba Mufti and this is why Indians should be alarmed when an ex CM is speaking so strongly against Indian atrocities. Both Farooq and Omar Abdullah have spoken strongly against Indian tactics and that proves they are going into wrong direction and blaming Pakistan doesn't help them in ANY way.
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Yes, he is the ex CM who is taking digs at the current government to score political points which is an obvious ploy of parties in opposition. These parties suddenly develop a lot of love for the Protestors/Miscreants and hatred for Army / India whenever they are not ruling.

If Abdullah's were such great administrators, people of Kashmir wouldnt vote for the Muftis.
 
Not surprising, Indian military is now adopting the tactics of terrorists. Hopefully Ghambir will tweet about this soon. He should also visit this man with flowers, he is a victim of terrorists.
 
czar said:
Yes, he is the ex CM who is taking digs at the current government to score political points which is an obvious ploy of parties in opposition. These parties suddenly develop a lot of love for the Protestors/Miscreants and hatred for Army / India whenever they are not ruling.

If Abdullah's were such great administrators, people of Kashmir wouldnt vote for the Muftis.
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Political points for who? Its clear to even thick-headed people that anyone standing up for Kashmiris in India will be committing political suicide considering the hatred of Indians towards the movement in Kashmir.
 
This is nothing new. Thanks to mobile phone cameras such things are getting highlighted now.

In 90s, Poor villagers in kashmir were used as bonded labourers by army men and then made to sit outside army camps from morning to evening so that militants dont attack the camps. Unfortunately there were no mobile phones at that time and media was more or less banned from collecting any evidence of such acts. Just one of the many atrocities.
 
czar said:
Yes, he is the ex CM who is taking digs at the current government to score political points which is an obvious ploy of parties in opposition. These parties suddenly develop a lot of love for the Protestors/Miscreants and hatred for Army / India whenever they are not ruling.

If Abdullah's were such great administrators, people of Kashmir wouldnt vote for the Muftis.
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He is a politician and will use such incidents but that is besides the point. If he was making things up or overreacting then understandable but this is quite disgusting IF Indians really considered Kashmiri people as their own. Heavy majority of people i have come across are mostly asking Kashmiris to leave their land with India and they could care less if people were dead or alive. Leave our land, go to hell, you are all jihadis, you are all terrorists and the only people they have sympathy for is pundits and they they wonder why people are hating Indian Army?
 
Indian well equipped, well trained , most disciplined, full of saints, most handsome, most beautiful, most advanced, most shoopa powwa army of the world for you.
 
Waseem said:
He is ex CM, currently Mehbooba Mufti and this is why Indians should be alarmed when an ex CM is speaking so strongly against Indian atrocities. Both Farooq and Omar Abdullah have spoken strongly against Indian tactics and that proves they are going into wrong direction and blaming Pakistan doesn't help them in ANY way.
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How much do you follow politics in J and K?Whoever is out of power makes such statements.When Abdullahs were in power Muftis made similar statements.This is vote getting tactics.
 
Pakpak said:
Yeah, maybe Western nations should adopt this too. Next time there is a riot in London, like we saw few years ago, they should grab innocent people and tie them to police horses and cars.
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Who said this guy is innocent?
 
cricketjoshila said:
How much do you follow politics in J and K?Whoever is out of power makes such statements.When Abdullahs were in power Muftis made similar statements.This is vote getting tactics.
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May be its a vote getting tactic. But is the picture in the OP real or fake?
 
Honestly this is just shocking.

If he was indeed used as a human shield, then I hope those who did this face enquiry.

This is just illegal stuff.

Indian army has to follow the procedure and they have the necessary tools to do so.
 
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...p-in-video-identified-as-farooq-dar-civilian/
The man, who was seen tied to an army jeep on polling day has been identified as Farooq Dar, while the army unit involved in the act was 53 Rashtriya Rifles. Officials investigating the matter on the instructions of Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti said Dar is a resident of Sitaharaan village in Khag tehsil of Budgam in central Kashmir.
The video, in which a man was seen tied to an army jeep, allegedly as a human shield against stone-pelting, and which had gone viral on social media, had created an outrage in the Valley, forcing the authorities and the army to investigate the matter.
During investigation, Dar said he was out to cast his vote and later visit his sister’s house, where a bereavement had taken place, to offer condolences.
Dar told investigators that after exercising his right to vote, he was proceeding towards his sister’s village when he was caught by the army personnel who wanted to enter Beerwah village along with the polling staff, the officials said.
Dar was tied to a jeep as the army moved into the village along with a convoy of jawans and some polling staff, they said.
The civilian claimed that he was released after he was paraded in 10 to 12 villages, the officials said.
Sources in the army, which has promised an enquiry, claimed that Dar was picked up from a “trouble spot” and was tied up for barely 100 metres before being released.
They said the unit involved in the act was 53 RR. The Rashtriya Rifles was carved out from various units of the army for fighting militancy in Jammu and Kashmir.
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JaDed said:
We all know how this goes,token firing not concrete action to change the situation.I doubt anyone will get suspended.
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Yeah, I am aware that that's also a possibility but with today's social media, things may take several twists and turns.

Honestly don't know how this whole problem (I mean Kashmir issue) is going to be sorted.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yeah, I am aware that that's also a possibility but with today's social media, things may take several twists and turns.

Honestly don't know how this whole problem (I mean Kashmir issue) is going to be sorted.
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Its never going to be sorted in my lifetime,with the hotheaded nationalism present next 10 years are lost,the generation after that might be more liberal wanting to end the situation unless ISIS takes hold.
 
[video]https://fb-l-d-a.akamaihd.net/h-ak-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/17964994_1341721125893550_1376978098624397312_n.mp 4?efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6InN2ZV9zZCJ9&oh=a5ebb971fd008d42f0d34b0c7e1fe50f&oe=58F131CB&__gda__=1492201010_a25700d61842ea93d10193b3149399e 5[/video]

The guy who was used as "Human Shield" being interviewed.
 
JaDed said:
Its never going to be sorted in my lifetime,with the hotheaded nationalism present next 10 years are lost,the generation after that might be more liberal wanting to end the situation unless ISIS takes hold.
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isis will never take hold in Kashmir if thats what u mean. You need to know the society in Kashmir, our history and traditions to understand what i'm saying. The isis flags used by some are nothing but taunts which actually do disservice to the kashmiri cause imo.
 
The guy who goes out to vote for indian politicians is being treated like this by indian army :)) i wonder if he will go out to vote next time.
 
Madplayer said:
isis will never take hold in Kashmir if thats what u mean. You need to know the society in Kashmir, our history and traditions to understand what i'm saying. The isis flags used by some are nothing but taunts which actually do disservice to the kashmiri cause imo.
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What is the history and traditions?People assume their culture to be the best and historically pure,I'm in Chennai and a Punjabi and people here keep talking about Tamizhan culture and when i go to Delhi its about Punjabi culture I'm sorry to tell you that history changes people and their thoughts and they evolve for better or for worse at no point can the entire awam think alike.

The violence has changed Kashmir and its people from all religions,do you think if Kota Rani comes back she would be welcome to rule Srinagar now?Have seen multiple Kashmiris including yourself asking or referring
name of places from Anantnag,Srinagar as Islamabad.
 
JaDed said:
What is the history and traditions?People assume their culture to be the best and historically pure,I'm in Chennai and a Punjabi and people here keep talking about Tamizhan culture and when i go to Delhi its about Punjabi culture I'm sorry to tell you that history changes people and their thoughts and they evolve for better or for worse at no point can the entire awam think alike.

The violence has changed Kashmir and its people from all religions,do you think if Kota Rani comes back she would be welcome to rule Srinagar now?Have seen multiple Kashmiris including yourself asking or referring
name of places from Anantnag,Srinagar as Islamabad.
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I know my culture is the best and the most tolerant one you would find in our region. :yk no kidding here. The people mind their own business as far as faith of other people are concerned. People dont force their laws on others. Sikhs extended their moral support to muslims in last uprising by openly holding a press conference. Muslims help out the pandit families in marriages and funerals. Its the most tolerant society you will ever come across in our part of the world. The violence has not changed these characteristics of Kashmiris irrespective of their religion. We saved even armymen during floods in bemina or during accidents on highway. We havent lost humanity amidst all this mess. Same cannot be said about Indians, i am sorry to say this.

About Anantnag / Islamabad ,i dont see what problem you have with that? Anantnag is also known as Islamabad in Kashmir. Sometimes we use anantnag and sometimes Islamabad. Creating something out of nothing here.
 
Madplayer said:
isis will never take hold in Kashmir if thats what u mean. You need to know the society in Kashmir, our history and traditions to understand what i'm saying. The isis flags used by some are nothing but taunts which actually do disservice to the kashmiri cause imo.
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Which leader is the best for the Kashmiri cause in your opinion, and have most following? I feel there is no leader to guide people. In my opinion, Kashmiri leaders should adopt the symbols (like Gandhi, non cooperation movement) that are holy among the Indian political class. Anything other than Islamic slogans, because then it is easier to paint the kashmiri movement as an Islamist one. And a pitch for Pandits. because the two most issues used to discredit the kashmiri movement, among the Indian population, is that it is islamist and that pandits have no place in kashmir. The other option is mass and violent uprising which brings world attention.
 
Madplayer said:
I know my culture is the best and the most tolerant one you would find in our region. :yk no kidding here. The people mind their own business as far as faith of other people are concerned. People dont force their laws on others. Sikhs extended their moral support to muslims in last uprising by openly holding a press conference. Muslims help out the pandit families in marriages and funerals. Its the most tolerant society you will ever come across in our part of the world. The violence has not changed these characteristics of Kashmiris irrespective of their religion. We saved even armymen during floods in bemina or during accidents on highway. We havent lost humanity amidst all this mess. Same cannot be said about Indians, i am sorry to say this.

About Anantnag / Islamabad ,i dont see what problem you have with that? Anantnag is also known as Islamabad in Kashmir. Sometimes we use anantnag and sometimes Islamabad. Creating something out of nothing here.
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As i said one sees their culture above anything and the bias will never change,as for Anantnag and Srinagar being referred to Islamabad ,try imagining a BJP leader saying everyone in India is basically a Hindu now see how stupid that sounds.

The bias never ends ,no one will see and all religions,regions in SC will keep having it believe me you too have that common with everyone of this region.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Which leader is the best for the Kashmiri cause in your opinion, and have most following? I feel there is no leader to guide people. In my opinion, Kashmiri leaders should adopt the symbols (like Gandhi, non cooperation movement) that are holy among the Indian political class. Anything other than Islamic slogans, because then it is easier to paint the kashmiri movement as an Islamist one. And a pitch for Pandits. because the two most issues used to discredit the kashmiri movement, among the Indian population, is that it is islamist and that pandits have no place in kashmir. The other option is mass and violent uprising which brings world attention.
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Personally speaking i also feel there is a lack of genuinely good leaders. Mostly followed are SAS Geelani, mirwaiz umar farooq and yaseen Malik. They have the most followers. Yaseen malik infact is considered as someone influenced by gandhian philosophy even though he is a former militant. He goes in hunger strikes and all. Everyone pitches for pandits to return. You wont hear anyone say otherwise. Kashmiris are just against them being settled in separate colonies because that would send out a wrong message. 90s era saw more or less the Mass and violent uprsising you are talking about and it did bring some attention on the international front that something is wrong . I dont think such actions would yield any more than drawing attention unless a powerful external force attacks India. Its a mess. We have Geo political powers not willing to bend a knee.
 
JaDed said:
As i said one sees their culture above anything and the bias will never change,as for Anantnag and Srinagar being referred to Islamabad ,try imagining a BJP leader saying everyone in India is basically a Hindu now see how stupid that sounds.

The bias never ends ,no one will see and all religions,regions in SC will keep having it believe me you too have that common with everyone of this region.
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I am not being biased at all here. I would have called it intolerant if it was one. I will say that the offices are corrupt to the core, i will call the people lazy and not working hard enough but i will also say that Kashmir is the most tolerant place in the entire region because that is the truth.

No one calls srinagar as Islamabad. You are mistaken on that. Anantnag has two names . One anantnag and other islamabad. GOD Knows since when. But since a long time i think.
I still dont get why u are bringing this up lol and the comparison you made is completely invalid imo.
 
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Madplayer said:
I am not being biased at all here. I would have called it intolerant if it was one. I will say that the offices are corrupt to the core, i will call the people lazy and not working hard enough but i will also say that Kashmir is the most tolerant place in the entire region because that is the truth.

No one calls srinagar as Islamabad. You are mistaken on that. Anantnag has two names . One anantnag and other islamabad. GOD Knows since when. But since a long time i think.
I still dont get why u are bringing this up lol and the comparison you made is completely invalid imo.
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Coz back in the day i used to follow fb pages of angered Kashmiri youth and they wished to change the name to that,kind like one of those "poll questions" and yes offtopic sorry to deviate.
 
JaDed said:
Coz back in the day i used to follow fb pages of angered Kashmiri youth and they wished to change the name to that,kind like one of those "poll questions" and yes offtopic sorry to deviate.
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Dont take those things seriously. People say and want to do a lot of things when they are on fb or twitter. On ground the reality is different.

About Anantnag, it always had a second name - Islamabad. Its not a recent change or something AFAIK. People use both names. They always have. Do u know a religious scholar called qazi yasir was arrested and slapped with PSA (detention upto two years without taking to court) once when he asked people to not use the word Anantnag and use Islamabad instead? It happened a few years ago. Dont know if such a thing warrants such punishment.
 
Madplayer said:
Personally speaking i also feel there is a lack of genuinely good leaders. Mostly followed are SAS Geelani, mirwaiz umar farooq and yaseen Malik. They have the most followers. Yaseen malik infact is considered as someone influenced by gandhian philosophy even though he is a former militant. He goes in hunger strikes and all. Everyone pitches for pandits to return. You wont hear anyone say otherwise. Kashmiris are just against them being settled in separate colonies because that would send out a wrong message. 90s era saw more or less the Mass and violent uprsising you are talking about and it did bring some attention on the international front that something is wrong . I dont think such actions would yield any more than drawing attention unless a powerful external force attacks India. Its a mess. We have Geo political powers not willing to bend a knee.
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Why only Pandits?

The whole of India should be allowed to settle in the valley and open businesses.

Grouping a bunch of people who want to separate in one region and not allowing others there is a recipe for disaster.

Where is the people to people interaction? Where are the opportunities to keep the local youth employed? Too much time for unemployed youth is asking for trouble especially when there is a separatist movement going on.
 
Third_Umpire said:
Innocent until proven guilty is not an unreasonable stance to take.

Nevertheless, he has already been treated by the Indian army as if he is guilty - what is he guilty of?
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He is guilty of Being a Muslim Kashmiri fighting for basic right.
 
Saeed said:
Not surprising, Indian military is now adopting the tactics of terrorists. Hopefully Ghambir will tweet about this soon. He should also visit this man with flowers, he is a victim of terrorists.
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No no, Indian army is never wrong don't you know 😊
 
I understand being patriotic but it's shocking how many are defending this act on this thread. Country should not be bigger than humanity.
 
...and they are complaining about Pak wanting to hang Kulbushan!! Indian hypocrisy never fails to amaze me.
 
Govt stands by officer in J&K ‘human shield’ row

NEW DELHI: The government has decided to stand by the Army officer who took the decision to use an alleged stone-pelter as a "human shield" tied to a jeep+ to steer his unit and Jammu and Kashmir officials and paramilitary personnel on election duty to safety.
The government has taken note of an Army probe into the April 9 incident which concluded that the commanding officer took the decision reluctantly and as the last resort after he realised that his unit had to pass through streets crowded with a mob of stone-pelters who had also taken positions on surrounding rooftops.

The trapped personnel included about a dozen local J&K employees, about 9-10 ITBP jawans, a couple of constables from J&K police and a bus driver.
Defence minister Arun Jaitley is likely to address the issue when he meets Army commanders on Monday. The government has appreciated that the controversial decision was taken in an extraordinary situation where the officer incharge of the unit had a difficult choice to make.
Indicating that the government feels the Army is being made a political target, minister of state for PMO and Udhampur MP Jitendra Singh told a J&K newspaper that "apologetic" Kashmir leaders were guilty of encouraging terrorism in the Valley. He said these leaders had lost the moral authority to make insinuations against Army personnel who they found a soft target while they lacked the the courage to condemn perpetrators of terrorism.
The Army brass is of the view that the unfortunate incident was unavoidable as the unit was surrounded by hundreds of protestors who were bent on violence.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-shield-row/articleshow/58213539.cms?from=mdr
 
www787 said:
He is guilty of Being a Muslim Kashmiri fighting for basic right.
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Basic right of separating from the country. India has to oblige it and let Kashmir go.

All the separatists should be fed with Laddoos and Ice Cream and hail them for their efforts by the army and Govt.
 
Indian army accused of secretly filming women, children in IIOJK

In yet another low in Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), the Indian Army has reportedly started monitoring the activities of Kashmiri women through secret cameras while they are busy in doing work in their lawns and orchards.

Locals told Kashmir Media Service over phone that they have spotted some cameras installed by the Indian Army in the orchards of Soibug area of Badgam district to record and monitor the activities of Kashmiri women and children.

They said that the move has created a sense of fear and insecurity among the local population.

According to local residents, Indian troops are taking videos and pictures of Kashmiri women and children to use them as a weapon against the Kashmiri people, engaged in struggle for freedom against India’s illegal occupation of their motherland.

In IIOJK, political analysts and experts have said, Indian troops are applying every brutal methods to suppress the Kashmiris’ freedom struggle and hurt their religious sentiments to punish them for demanding freedom from India.

An earlier KMS report, quoting political experts and analysts, said besides killing innocent youth in IIOJK, the troops are continuously hurting the religious sentiments and feelings of the Kashmiri people.

They said that the latest of such incidents occurred in Jan Mohalla area of Shopian when the troops damaged and desecrated a mosque and the Holy Quran during a cordon and search operation.

hey said the desecration of the Holy Quran and mosque by the troops in Shopian is intolerable for the Kashmiri Muslims.

The political experts and analysts said Indian troops have been involved in such activities in IIOJK for the last over seven decades.

"The burning down of Charar-i-Sharief Shrine in May 1995, desecration of Dargah Hazratbal during the worst military siege in November 1993 and violation of the sanctity of Jamia Masjid Srinagar during a military operation in August 1989 and at several other occasions are blot on the secular face of India," they said.

The political experts and analysts pointed out that Hindutva forces have planned to destroy Islamic centres in IIOJK. “Modi intends to replicate episodes like Babri Masjid in entire India and particularly in IIOJK. Modi brigade has announced to bring back a pre-Islamic era and impose a predominant Hindu culture in the occupied territory. BJP and RSS leaders have openly said that 50,000 temples will be built in Kashmir,” they said.

However, they maintained that the communal BJP and RSS are destined to fail in intimidating the Kashmiri Muslims.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2303098/indian-army-accused-of-secretly-filming-women-children-in-iiojk
 
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